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Come here for talk about all things Pokémon Mystery Dungeon.

Previous thread: https://arch.b4k.dev/vp/thread/59033851/ >>59033851

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Questions:
>Is there a specific dungeon you hated from any of the PMD games and why?
>Why do you think pokemon can only evolve in specific places like luminous cave instead of anywhere like mainline?
>What would be the weakest possible explorers duo?
>How dexterous do you think bird Pokémon like Fletchling, Pidgey, Unfezant, etc. are with their wings?

Recap of the previous thread:
>Clover Guild Q&A 4 is out (https://rentry.org/ChrPrompt4)
>Discussion on Romhacks, writing and motivation tips, and Grovyle
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First for Nidder
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I've been reading clover stories for a while now, and I'm really excited to, at long last, publish my first story, "A Bull-Headed Start". Hope you all enjoy it! Here's the link: https://rentry.org/CloverCachopo1

>Is there a specific dungeon you hated from any of the PMD games and why?
Cape of Wonders. It uses the worst of the GTI layouts, the worst GTI dungeon theme, high level for the point you can unlock it (fuck the Omastar that spam non stop Hidro Pump that goes trough allies). What makes it the worst is that the devs assigned what feels like every aquatic pokemon's mission to that dungeon, so you end up visiting it non stop.
>Why do you think pokemon can only evolve in specific places like luminous cave instead of anywhere like mainline?
Solely to contextualise why evolution is locked to post game. Won't complaint though, it's much more convenient than taking the pokemon you want to evolve to a dungeon, and it adds mysticism to the world.
>What would be the weakest possible explorers duo?
Riolu and Vulpix for sure. They're really bad, guys trust me, pick something else, something original while you're at it.
>How dexterous do you think bird Pokémon like Fletchling, Pidgey, Unfezant, etc. are with their wings?
I'd like to say not really. But chatot has animations where he holds the memo containing who's going to the expedition, so they probably have dexterity when it's convenient.
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>>59087294
great first story anon :D very cute premise for a character, and the cameos are very classic
hope you stick around!!
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>>59087294
Good story, anon. Some slight gramatical flaws, but nothing that hurts readability.


Cachopo's anger issues are an interesting flaw for him to have. I'm curious what you'll do with them in the future, and with him in general.
I found it a bit odd how quickly he landed on the 'feral' descriptor for the enemies he fought, even before knowing about the nature of the world, but perhaps it could be explained by his rage as well.

>At least I managed to retrieve the stolen item.
Heh.



Please confirm or update the following information. In addition, you may now or in the future attach an expanded personality blurb that will be linked to your character's information.
>Cachopo|M|P-Tauros (Aqua Breed)|N/A|Clover Guild Member|???
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>>59087421
Info is correct.
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>>59086730
>>Is there a specific dungeon you hated from any of the PMD games and why?
Silver Trench, aka the Silver Shithole. Yet another bland water dungeon, 99f of identical tilesets, you need to do multiple deep dives because some recruits are only found as deep as 80 floors in, and there's no food in it at all so bring that Tight Belt.
>>Why do you think pokemon can only evolve in specific places like luminous cave instead of anywhere like mainline?
Something something concentrated energy idk it's obviously just a gameplay abstraction. Still better than getting asked to evolve every level like in Gates.
>>What would be the weakest possible explorers duo?
Phanpy/Eevee. Seriously they're so awful.
>>How dexterous do you think bird Pokémon like Fletchling, Pidgey, Unfezant, etc. are with their wings?
They can probably at least hold small things.
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>>59086730
>Why do you think pokemon can only evolve in specific places like luminous cave instead of anywhere like mainline?
Arbitrary gameplay limitation. My head canon reason would be that evolution is extremely stressful/intense and these specific places make it much easier/safer.
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>>59087294
RIP random geodude chilling in a cave only to get obliterated. I can definitely tell you are a clover guild fan purely by how many members you wrote in
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Here's the bird. I wish I'd gotten a screen tablet sooner.
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>>59086730
>>Is there a specific dungeon you hated from any of the PMD games and why?
i'm gonna use 'hated' as the reasoning for the answering of this question because as a kid i hated amp plains and temporal tower. i'd say aegis cave these days for a boring answer
>>Why do you think pokemon can only evolve in specific places like luminous cave instead of anywhere like mainline?
technically in gates they can just evolve in dungeons
but the real answer is who knows. i like the idea that there're specialised areas to do it though, makes it feel more special
>>What would be the weakest possible explorers duo?
something with phanpy in it.
>>How dexterous do you think bird Pokémon like Fletchling, Pidgey, Unfezant, etc. are with their wings?
i imagine some level of dexterity enough to hold things but not crazy

>>59087294
yo welcome new anon nice story
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And Gus WIP
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>>59088901
These look amazing, which artist are you?
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Going to play EoS again but with Bulbasaur and Meowth. Who would be a good third partner for the team?
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>>59089556
anything with silver wind (venomoth, beautifly) or ominous wind (masquerain)
alternatively, something like seel with powder snow/blizzard+hail
a pokemon with status effects like thunder wave, wrap, agility, can work for catching outlaws (e.g. dratini)
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>>59089556
Wooper.
All my homies love Wooper.
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>>59089752
>seel
meant spheal. you can get it in craggy coast, just like dratini
also, ice ball sucks in sky due to pathetic accuracy
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>>59089765
>wooper (11)
dams, thats a lot of wooper gifs
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>>59089851
There's a lot of Wooper in my folder, and still more in the PMD folder.
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>>59089870
Is your wooper folder a sausage fest? Or do you have some female wooper images?
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>>59087294
Very good intro, and a really neat choice of pokemon and gimmick. All of the guildmembers were written well and accurately, nice job! My only complaint is that it would be good to put spaces between your paragraphs so it's a bit easier to read.
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>>59089884
Some, thing is people mostly draw boy woopers since that design was first. Won't bother posting more since it's not really pmd related in that case.
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>>59089897
Ty. I'll add the spaces right away.
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>>59088585
I like how the cheek marks look on your birb compared to official art
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For the past few months Glaceon-anon and I have been working together to reimagine CG in a dark fantasy universe. As Above sits at a length of 6k words while So Below is both 29k long and is much more heavily stylized, so there's your fair warning. As always, we both would appreciate reception and feedback about the story and art! Without further ado, we're happy to present:

As Above
>https://rentry.co/gs-above/
and So Below
>https://rentry.co/gs-below/
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>>59088908
Thank you, I've not been here in a while, but I think my old work is still on the booru as "Warwickia".
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>>59091420
I thought it was you, but I wasn’t sure. Your older stuff is amazing too.
Do you take commissions?
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>>59091616
I do requests as my time allows, especially for Clover Guild and friends. No commissions. Please don't be afraid to contact me on Discord if you want something!
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>>59091683
I’m not actually in the guild, I’m just a lurker. My request would be completely off-topic.
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>>59091950
Oh, I see. Either way, you can just shoot me a message. I don't mind doing random requests every once in a while. My Discord is Warwickia.
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>>59092110
Thank you, sent you a friend request
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>>59087294
Got around to finishing it, the spacing you added in helps break up the walls of text a lot.
Great intro, looking forward to reading future anger issues with this beefhead.

poor subby doll had a hard life
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>>59093278
Holy shit it's you who did the Tropius/Rain art last thread, Druddigon-anon? Great art and chars! Are you still considering writing for Clover?
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>>59093291
Sorry for the inactivity. I haven't forgotten what I said but ran into more hangups than expected. I do still intend to use these characters eventually.
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>have an idea for a story
>but no clue how to handle the character's personality without it feeling samey

the eternal struggle

>>59093380
based, always need more writefags.
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>>59093380
You should pop into the magma! If you know about Team BucketBrigade and Cypress then you're probably well-read, and I'm sure anons would love to chat.
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>>59086730
Hope WiWa gives us a new PMD
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>>59087294
Welcome to the guild! This feels like a pretty straightforward intro, but his gimmick is fun. The part where he gets knocked out in a dungeon but immediately goes back in for revenge was amusing. There’s certainly potential for more stories involving this idea. Team Brave could probably help with his berserker tendencies... They’ve been dealing with the same issues too, conveniently enough. Bill the counselor could be helpful as well. Speaking of characters, I appreciate the cameos. Mustel’s scene in particular was a nice, believable way to teach the protagonist a little about his new species.

I saw quite a few grammatical errors/typos, but I won’t harp on about it, because the story was still perfectly readable. I might suggest using a different format for the character’s thoughts, like italicizing them or putting them in single quotes, and not mixing them into the middle of narration like you do now. It’d be a bit easier to read than the format you use here, and more in line with standard practice for writing thoughts. But you can stick with this style if you want, as long as you keep it consistent.

Regarding his extreme mood swings, I feel like his reaction to the problem was perhaps too muted, and he should have been more bothered by it (same with Lliam, who witnessed an episode firsthand). Also, the progression of his shifting moods possibly could’ve been portrayed a bit better. For example, when he follows Lliam around, you tell us that he’s frustrated, but you don’t really show him gradually becoming angrier. That makes his eventual outburst feel too abrupt, in my opinion.

Regardless, it’s a solid start for the character, and I hope to see more out of you.

>>59090911
Having reviewed a draft, I can confirm this is kino. The setting, writing, and artwork are all very cool.

>>59093380
Hey, welcome back. Good to see you and your art again. Your linework has a nice style.
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>>59093278
driggerGODS we WON

Amazing art, anon! That reminds me, the two on the left should be getting their next story soon...
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WIP for Mond's reference sheet. He's a Roaring Moon now.

Mond was once a normal Pokemon, but was trapped in a magnagate till time became a blur. He was spat out one day with a new, monstrous form. Though he is strong, his body takes a toll on him and is slowly breaking down. Maybe it wasn't ever meant for this world?

Despises humans for their meddling.
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>>59093634
A silly little partner could fix him
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>>59090911
Cool, we finally have the Dark Souls of Clover Guild.
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>>59094380
They definitely believe he is a magikarp
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A team of thieves and treasure hunters feels played out already
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>>59094380
Only one of the kids can throw rocks at him lol. Wooper is phisically incapable of getting mad.
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>>59096071
And you know for sure even if the others had hands Smoochum would be the one to do it
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Someones no doubt made this joke before but...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N-o7L2l53Pg&list=RDN-o7L2l53Pg&start_radio=1
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>>59096716
It's not much of a joke. You're just pointing out that:
>They're both orbs of darkness.
>They're both final bosses.
>They have the same name.
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>>59094380
It's kinda sad how that JP guidebook story revealed Wigglytuff spent a lot of time searching for Armaldo to no avail.
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>>59097480
If Armaldo doesn't hear about a place called Wigglytuff's Guild and think to look there, that's on him.
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>>59098042
He is probably dead
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>>59099233
Only the best for those chosen by the relic fragment
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>>59099233
>motor boating lapris
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>>59098042
>>59098740
He’s fine, and he was released from jail too. He had a cameo in Super where he says he’s aware Igglybuff became a guildmaster.
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>>59099544
>He had a cameo in Super
not canon
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>>59099577
I knew someone would say this. Doesn’t matter if you hate Super, it’s still canon.
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don't ask but it IS pmd related
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>>59090911
Been looking forward to this for a long time, and it did not disappoint. It got me to start reading clover stories again, and it may just inspire me to start writing again too. It's so peak. The story, the characters, the setting, the art -
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>>59087294
Welcome to clover!!!!!
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I saw someone finish that Team Hack Event 2 hack. Good god what a fucking mess
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Clover guild paints a bad reputation for ice types
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>>59102547
Hey, that's all Chespin's dooing. Just because Cyndaquiln is a degenerate doesn't mean everyone is.

Now Pelipers on the other hand...
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>>59090911
It's pretty damn solid. I'll admit this doesn't much align with my personal taste in regards to the world and storytelling, so I can't judge it there, but the writing and art themselves are very high quality. I know a lot of work went into this, but it would be cool if this wasn't merely a one-and-done; it'd be nice to get another view of this universe from a different perspective. Otherwise, great work and congratulations on getting this out, anons!
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>>59087294
Very based story. I like this Cachapo a lot already, he's trying his best. Wait until he figure out how to become a water jetpack.
Realistically, shouldn't the substitute doll be rock solid by now if it has that much nut in it? Would it crack in half like a blanket?
>youtube.com/watch?v=7keIFbTlfcM


>>59090911
I'll probably never finish reading this since I do not care for dark fantasy in the slightest, but this is an incredible work of art and I really appreciate how much love has obviously gone into it. I really love all the alt designs and how you've reimagined the characters.

>>59093278
Me when I see a little fella. Love this.

>>59093634
He should be allowed to kill all humans.
>>59088585
You haven't been around since I joined, but you are my idol and I grovel before thee. Your skill with lines and colour are above reproach. You should illustrate for storybooks.
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Weirdly, this is a completely different Umbreon, entirely unconnected to the first.
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>>59103589
Who is breaking umbreon legs. Does Adrian need protection
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>>59103589
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>>59104215
>mfw no wheelchair accessible dungeons
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>>59103502
Lovely art! Thanks for the kino, Petal-Purr.
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>>59103502
It's so nice to finally meet you! Thank you for the Mond art, I really appreciate how towering you depict him.

Jung would send me a lot of your work and animations. That one you did for the summer festival especially is so cute! Your style reminds me of MAPs I'd watch a while back.
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>>59104215
>>59103589
Tell me about the cripple-bres, why do they lose their legs?
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>>59104597
Jorked it too hard.
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>>59105553
Don't worry, it gets worse.
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>>59104597
Umbreons are the favorite victims of mentally unstable Sylveons.
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>>59104597
Dark types understand that strength can come from anywhere and take care of their crippled young, unlike P*ychics who use them for twisted experiments and F*ghters who eat them
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>>59106159
>F*ghters who eat them
Well, why wouldn't the bigger, stronger fighter eat the small ones.
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>>59106123
I want this with Sylveon Ribbons vs the other eeveelutions
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Rare Gates fanart, is there anyone who played Gates and DIDN'T pick Axew?
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>>59106669
Holy fuck so CUTE!

Axew with rivalry in gates is really fun. You obliterate dragon types! (Even tough there are hardly any in the main story outside of two endgame bosses)
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Also who tf invited swanna?
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>>59104597
It's the other way around. Crippled eevees choose to become umbreons because they're edgy and seething about having no legs
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>>59107259
Put all eeveeloutions on the short bus where they belong.
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So, I've been working on writing my intro story for almost half a year (and by that I mean I wrote around 80% of it and then it was left in limbo for most of that time), but could never find energy to finish it.
Turns out someone showing up out of the blue with a finished intro is a pretty good motivator to do that.

https://rentry.org/6pwfwuez

Enjoy the read.
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>>59108451
Wellcome to the night shift!
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>>59108451
Nice story, I enjoyed the two's banter, and the guild can always use more shithead prankster characters like Lint. I do enjoy Amo's monologues too and think they were well-written even if they make YIIK music play in my head. I can't imagine writing those for every story though, but I guess you can always swap to Lint's POV if you get tired of writing them.
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>>59108451
Couldn't stop myself from doodling Lint after a certain line in your story.
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>>59103502
I adore how unbothered and happy moisturemaxxing Wooper and Blossom look
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>>59106669
You say that like gates has a large list of pokemon to pick from. 3d was a mistake and I stand by that
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>>59106669
I picked Oshawott and Tepig. Spamming high level Blizzard basically just rapes everything the instant you enter a room, but that isn't until a decentt ways into the postgame.
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>>59110784
Well, Super managed to include every single Pokemon, so clearly 3d isn't the problem
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bump
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>>59106669
I went with Oshawott/Snivy
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>>59106669
I picked him as the partner mostly because he was the odd choice there.
I wonder how popular Axew or another dragon like Gible would have been if they were starter options in Super.
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>>59113196
Unsure, they'd be up against all of the starters, who are engeniered to be likeable. At the same time, there aren't many off picks to compete with.

If Gible was added to Sky, I'd imagine it'd be such a normie pick that we'd be making fun of it.
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Why did DX turn Western Cave into a 20 floor dungeon instead of 99
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>>59113824
1. There are a lot of 99f dungeons in Red/Blue rescue team

2. Mewtwo's bossfight received a big glow up. Now featuring a second phase in the form of Mega Mewtwo.
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nanners, in the guild ?
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>>59114817
It's more likely that you'd think.
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>>59108451
Welcome to the guild, friend!
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How can a mother fucker get some nanners when none of yall have manners?
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Hello, I've been watching the thread for a while and decided to try writing a short intro story for some characters. I'll try writing a second part in the next day or two. Hope you like it.

https://rentry.org/cg-deltadawn
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>>59115816
nice story and choices anon
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>>59115816
Nice work, anon, and glad to have you here. That was a good read. The ending of the story got a chuckle out of me. You have some cool story hooks with Thunderhead, and the two of them being on the opposite end of the continent, so I'm interested in seeing more about them in the future.

N/A | ? | Turtwig | Watrtel (Stormy, M, Native) | Outsider | ???

>>59108451
Read this as well. The issue Lint brought up was interesting to read about. It's a good use of the species and a human's relation to it. As a Solosis, Amo forms an cool thematic parallel - how he could also be seen as constantly 'wearing' something.
The second to last two paragraphs may have some errors with the italics formatting.
I also do have to agree with one of the above anons. Amo's monologues are somewhat YIIK-like. That's not a bad thing.

Thank you for including personality blurbs.
Amo | M | Solosis | Mimikyu (Lint, F, Human) | Clover Guild Member | ???
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>>59115816
cute intro! I love the classic setup you have here, it's always a good one to see. and extremely based choices my friend - we're eating good lately with the new anons and their taste in pokemon. Hope to see more from you soon!
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Hello I am skimming through the rec'd romhack titles list in the OP as I am in a phase of playing my DS a bit more. I've played half of EoS and SMD to the end but lost my file. Anything on DS/3DS with a decent-enough story without overtly difficult combat would be cool if anybody has any commentary.
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>>59116201
The Clover hacks aren't that hard and can stand on their own as stories. None are all that long, 2 hours tops for the later two.
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>pmd fuckers are the horniest pokefags alive
>0 horny romhacks
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>>59116201
I can recommend Seal of Ancients, Waves of Nostalgia, and Strung up by Sketches. The Clover hacks mentioned by >>59116328 are Team Misfits, The Weather up There, and Togetic's Very Special Episode. Though I would recommend skipping Team Misfits unless you really enjoy the writing of the other hacks, it's much shorter and less polished.
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>>59116432
John Cena and the Quest for the Undertale Orgy
Chatot Comes Out of the Closet
And also this https://sites.google.com/view/jojoretrogamersromhacks/home?authuser=0
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>>59115816
Really nice to see another huma enthusiast! (Or at least in this case a human world enthusiast)
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>>59115816
Short but sweet intro, something nice to read before bed. Always nice to see more uncommon pokes as a team, I always thought Turtwig was weirdly rare despite everything. Wonder how Stormy will react if he gets to the guild and finds out about Wooper.
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>>59116432
>does he know?
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You guys do rescue codes? I ate shit when mew spawned in a monster house at level 40 something of relic rock or whatever in red rescue team. Never done this kind of thing before, but if anybody wants to rescue me I'll drop the code.
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>>59117385
What dungeon? I didn't unlock all the dungeons on my red rescue team save but I might be able to do it
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>>59117398
Buried Relic, the one with the Regi Trio.
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>>59117398
Send the rescue code and i'll give it a shot at some point today (either that or another anon does it first)
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>>59117398
>>59117446
Alright. If you want a reward let me know. I might be able to drop a thing or two.
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>>59117385
If you don't get any anon to solve it for you, there are online solvers where you can put your rescue code and it gives you the rescue complete code
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>>59117623
Thanks for the tip. I'll wait to see if I get saved though.
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>>59117866
>>59117510
Here you go anon. No reward necessary, but if you REALLY wanna send one, a spare Escape Orb would be nice
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>>59118199
Ayyyy what's your rescue team like?
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>>59118575
Main story team was Meowth and Squirtle, but in the postgame, i just started soloing with Poliwrath. I fed him a bunch of gummis and boosted his level a decentt amount, because i wanted to go for all recruits, but i got bored of it and so this save has been laying around for a year or so. Someday i might go back to it
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>>59119186
The tower looks pretty unintimidating, with how soft it's drawn.
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Hey fellow human PMD enjoyers! I have returned following the completion of a 1-year recalibration cycle, which was necessitated after receiving unexpected input from a rogue post asking for instructions on confections.

As you may recall from my previous creative output (https://arch.b4k.dev/vp/thread/57637217/#57657120), I have successfully produced the second chapter.
The protagonist has been designated "Gropt" and the narrative now features amplified stakes, Clover Guild interactions, and a reconfigured tone that appeals to a wider audience.

https://rentry.org/realpmdstory2

I would greatly appreciate any feedback inputs to further refine my writing capabilities during the next recalibration cycle.
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>>59119577
Finally someone decides to add some stakes to their story.

>"The Zangoose and Seviper stop making out"
Kek
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>>59115816
Welcome to the guild! Very interested to see where you go with your characters.

>Character who can't stop themselves from talking on and on
I fear what would happen if Stormy and Toge interacted.
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After extensive research, the shareholders have determined that the "Team Petal-Purr" needs an image shake up in order to survive in today's fast paced economy. Species and appearances have been shifted to accommodate the fresh new tastes of today.
The following changes have been approved:

>Shelby
>Skitty is no longer the most marketable of the catmons and is in danger of growing stale. The Eevee is a more versatile pick that is sure to stay current for years to come.

>Blossom
>Though Bulbasaur's popularity remains consistent, it cannot match up against the broad appeal of a green cat. Sprigatito is the usurper of two thrones; grass starters and catmons alike.

>Heidi
>Houndour has extremely little cultural relevance and is no longer a species that gels with the image of our brand. Though Vulpix was considered, it was decided that Fennekin resonates more with our target audience.

We expect a substantial rise in market value. Thank you for your attention to this notice.
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>>59119984
Can you get rid of the foxes? New Blossom already fullfils the Petal and Purr requirements on her own.
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>>59119984
>▶
I know this is an april fools joke, but I'm still fucking killing you for this.
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>>59119984
PetalPurr stocks just went through the fucking roof
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Today i will remind them
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>>59119984
even has a aprils fool those are peak design
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PMD Desert Bus is out! I forgot to link it here before I went to bed last night.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/12YVU2x5VH9AywUT6Fn2oyMonIzwDSxrm/view
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>>59119984
If you think I'm not going to lust over nu-Heidi you are a fool.
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Hello again. I want to thank everyone who replied to the first part. I really appreciate it. I know it’s weird to post a story update on April 1, but I’m ready to share the second part. Hope you like it.

https://rentry.org/cg-deltadawn2
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https://zzazzdzz.github.io/fools2026/

Some of you might be up to the 100F challenge without hacking.
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Does the human society and complexities of the human condition tend to make former humans difficult to connect with born Pokemon to fall in love with?
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>>59089556
Now I'm having second thoughts about this team. They don't really have a lot of coverage so how are they going to beat Primal Dialga?
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>>59089556
>>59123061
A Rock+Ground Pokemon
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>>59122178
Nice second part, very cute story.
I've been bamboozled. Still, it was a nice story, and Wattrel's a fun character.

>>59122589
Cute art!
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>>59122178
Part 2 was posted as soon as I started reading part 1. Very good work, anon! I enjoyed it much!
And I also got got hard. I should've known...

>>59123226
This fills me with dread and fear.
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>>59122178
Damn Booker-anon, how come they let you have 3 teams?

>>59123226
Some day, Cynda...
Some day.
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>>59122589
>Would you rather fight one drudiggon-sized togedemaru or fifty togedemaru -sized drudiggon?
Going off of game mecanics, fifty togedemaru -sized drudiggon would absolutely murder you trough rough skin. I'd take my chances with the drudiggon-sized togedemaru.
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I wanna draw fag but I fucking suck so bad, how do i just do it and not care without thinking people will call me gay and cringe?
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>>59123749
best advice is, don't care about what you perceive other people thinking of you
just do your gay fag art and be free
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>>59123753
i did one time and no one called it gay... yeh you are so right
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Do you guys play on a ds,3ds or an emulator?
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>>59124163
EoS Romhacks?
I much preffer emulator, since it's eassier to take screen caps, and you already need to use a computer to patch the rom.
Vanila games?
I use 3ds for that.
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>>59124183
You still play the vanilla games on 3ds? Kinda based. I've been playing on emulator for all pokemon games for years but I dug out my 2dsxl and Im thinking I might try to play on it again, wonder if itll be as comfy
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>>59124185
The anwer is more so that I haven't played them in a while, and I'm not sure how well my laptop can emulate the 3ds entries.
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>>59124189
i bought a really expensive pc a few years agojust to play games on and I feel like I locked myself to it being my only gaming device, anytime i try to spend long hours on my 3ds or switch 2 I stop or end up napping cause I crawled into my bed
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>>59124922
Cute Qwilfish.
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>>59122178
When turtwig said TOTAL RIBOMBEE DEATH I truly felt that in my soul.
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>>59126182
when will this make it into a story?
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>>59125804
How am I supposed to enjoy this without a flashback telling me the puzzle solution?
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>>59123749
>I wanna draw fag but I fucking suck so bad
If you don't drawfag you will stay sucking.
And do it because you want to, not to seek validation from anonymous basket-weavers.
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>>59122178
"Oh, man, I wish I was a humanoid that could use aura powers that wasn't a bug... if only there was such a Pokemon..."
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>>59123749
Do your best, Anon. There’s all kinds of skill levels here
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>>59127485
>not to seek validation from anonymous basket-weavers.
What if I seek validation from myself?
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>>59127648
Become the best version of yourself.
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>>59127648
Only through rigorous training can we become stronger
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>>59128099
Your honor, I only slaped her ass to unstun her.
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>>59128099
Just started playing recently and I'll eat Stun and Sleep seeds just because my bag is full. Maybe I've turned my rescue team into drug addicts.
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>>59123226
People make fun of him, but I bet he'll be the one who ends up making a big family.
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>>59129334
The start of a cursed blodline.
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>>59129334
>big family
He will have a family line larger than that of Genghis Khan.
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I haven't played Sky in years and started a new playthrough. This is what I've come up with for the partner and leader:

Astra (Shinx and partner)
>Parents were explorers who specialized in rescue missions, traversing the land using celestial navigation. They were formerly part of the Luxray pride in Amp Plains, but fled after rising tensions with the leader. When his mother was with child, they agreed to name one of their cubs Astra (but they ended up having all boys).
>As a child, Astra learned the arts of celestial navigation and mapping from his parents, making him an ideal candidate for guiding Pokemon trough uncharted territories (although he is a bit of a scaredy cat who has never explored without them). One of these expeditions are where he found the relic fragment, which he considers his most sacred treasure (and a memento of his adventures with his parents).
>He eventually passes on his own navigation skills to the hero, culminating in her learning the "Map Surveyor" IQ skill. His personality can be described as introverted and clingy, the latter of which being annoying to her, who would prefer to have some space once in a while.
>Astra gets made fun of by Team Skull for having a girly name and has been given the nickname "Ass" by them

Nerine (Vulpix and leader):
>More of an extrovert who has an easier time bonding with other Pokemon. Although her mind is sharp, she is an amnesiac with no evident skills, often questioning her role as leader.
>As a human she heard stories about Ninetales that were passed on through word of mouth, loving them so much that she knew them by heart. Subconsciously, this may have had an effect on what Pokemon she transformed into
>(Later on in the journey): Nerine loves recalling tales of her expeditions to other Pokemon. While some Pokemon such as Bidoof are eager to listen, others have fallen asleep due to the long-windedness of them.

Thoughts? I'm not a writer; I just wanted to justify having this basic team for my playthru
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>>59130333
I'll put aside the really basic picks you've got there that I like the backstory you gave to the partner. Having a pokemon with night vision know celestial navigation is a smart pick!

>They were formerly part of the Luxray pride
kek
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>>59130384
Thank you! The Shinx's line night vision is exactly what I had in mind when giving this skill to the partner. I admittedly put more work into them than the leader, which shows.
I'm looking forward to playing with this duo, as I've never used them and think they're very cute together.
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>>59130333
A lot of people here are going to give you shit for your team choice, but there's absolutely nothing wrong with it. The personalities are relatively simple, to fit within the framework of the game, but they have a couple neat minor twists. I did think the leader was a bit less developed than the partner, as you mentioned.
At the end of the day, you've clearly stated your intentions, so as long as you're happy with it, what does it matter what anyone else thinks?
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>>59130416
Part of it was challenging myself to actually write something so I could justify having this team to myself. I sought out some opinions from others because, again, the pick is very basic and I wanted them to stand out a bit from all the other Vulpix/Shinx picks out there. Thank you for your input, it really means a lot.
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>>59130459
>so I could justify having this team to myself
If you want them as your team just do it.
Shinx/pix was my first team when I played sky at release, have fun with it. Magnitude and earthquake WILL test your patience.
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>>59130333
Based, and you’ll get no shame from me for your mon choices. I should do this next time I play too, bring some roleplaying back to the roleplaying game.
I agree Nerine needs a little more meat on her bones though.
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>>59131775
very nice work, may I ask what XC3 song this is based on? struggling to place it myself
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>>59131863
Might be 'Homecoming'? Not really sure, though.
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>>59122265
>Achievement for reaching floor 100 without checkpoints, savestates, pausing, or saving
What even counts as pausing? I wanna give that challenge a go but not if it disqualifies the run because I had to lock the computer or put it to sleep, or pause the emulator.
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>>59132339
I think it is, yeah.
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>>59132794
Pausing the emulator counts as pausing. It's detected just like save states, in that it checks the emulator's RTC for significant time discrepancies.
Suspending a computer will do that I think...

If you're interested, I can try to make a patch to disable this check, as I read enough of the code to hack my way through it, anyway. This challenge is already awful enough as is, not being able to pause adds very little to it.
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>>59132938
What's the point of measuring time in a turn based game? Also isn't that challenge a 99f dungeon with some crap every 10 dungeons? Why would you force people to do it in one sitting?
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>>59102551
Why is cyndaquil still even in the guild? The stolen meme of them was sad since day one.
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>>59132969
It just measures how much "real time" is taken between each console "tick", any meddling with that and it just means someone used save states.

>Why would you force people to do it in one sitting?
You can cheese the entire thing with save states.
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>>59133377
What's pausing the emulator have to do with that?
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>>59121216
what does this need to be patched over? US sky?
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>>59135631
yes the EoS USA rom
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>>59133905
It's just a side-effect of the only viable method of detecting save states.
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>>59135967 (Me)
Also, it's not like you can't leave the emulator running (and e.g. lock the computer/turn the screen off) to take a break or go to bed. It's just a bit less convenient.
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>>59135326
the fuck happened to him
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>>59136591
Too many cupcakes (wouldn't be the first time!)
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Clover Guild QnA 4 (https://rentry.org/ChrPrompt4) will close for questions on the 10th, don't forget to put in some questions.
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>>59135326
>>59136715
>fights the cupcake mini boss
>loses! TWICE!
the absolute state of smith stans
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Is the switch remake a good entry? I'm not sure why but I bounced off the gba and DS entries back when they were new (could be I was much younger and less tolerant of roguelike BS), not sure if I should try again.
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>>59138198
It makes changes to the gameplay to make it more accessible and less annoying, but some of these changes are questionable to say the least, like removing the regular attack while increasing Elixir spawn rates like crazy, or the Rare Quality system that leads to some broken stuff that trivializes resource management.
Then there is the new artstyle that some find okay while others hate. Story-wise it adds absolutely nothing.

I wouldn't recommend starting with the remake since it is quite different from the other games, but if you are afraid that you won't like them due to too much BS, you can start with DX.
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>>59138683
>removing the regular attack while increasing Elixir spawn rates like crazy
it actually makes sense. you quickly realize when you tackle lv 1 99-floor dungeons
>all enemies start at full PP and eventually get devastating moves like sonic boom, earthquake, magnitude, spore, silver wind, etc. furthermore, every floor has at least 1 overleveled enemy (and it only gets worse as you proceed), which renders regular attacks practically useless
>meanwhile you only have a puny 10~20 PP per move to last you the entire dungeon, and monster houses will quickly burn through your resources
>elixirs are a rarity. don't count on getting more than 3 or 4. this turns several types of traps (PP-zero, sticky, grimy) into huge, crippling obstacles
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>Have cool idea for new characters
>Unsure if I should follow it or just return to my original characters
I hate having to compromise even more having to read like one or two years of stories to catch up
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>been messing around in my copy of Sky I bought at a game shop recently
>finally recruited Darkrai
I'll worry about Kecleon someday but this one has always been a personal goal of mine since I was a kid playing Time/Darkness. I was just too retarded back then to realize it was a negative recruitment chance and normal friend bow strats weren't gonna cut it. I love the idea of your worst enemy coming back amnesiac and you make him your best bud and party member
pic related, my loyal partner I am a Phanpy, artificial hardmode with no good STAB unless I'm going solo with EQ
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>>59139037
>phanpy
my condolences on your 45% accuracy rollout.
reviver seed natural gift is Ground, btw
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>>59139043
I remember messing around with Natural Gift much earlier on my file but kinda forgot about it. I'll relearn that and mess around with it, I do still have some lategame dungeons to do. Good idea anon!
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>>59139064
There should still be a guide in the OP that details what seeds give what types for Natural Gift. I know Reviser also grants Ground.
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>>59138981
Follow your muse and see where it takes you. You can always come back to your original idea later.
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>>59087294
I enjoyed this intro a lot! It reminded me of old clover stories, the humor, the struggle with being a weird Pokemon, and the quaintness of it all... It felt oddly nostalgic -u-!! He's a great fit for the guild, well done :]!
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Have you ever replayed a PMD game, or have you done only one playthrough?
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>>59140155
I’ve played through rescue team and explorers probably around 5 times each and super just once
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>>59140155
What the other anon said, I've played through the main story of both rescue team and explorers a handful of times, and the 3ds/switch games each once (gates, super, dx).
I've never finished the postgame on any of them except Gates (really short) and Super where I recruited everyone.
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>>59140155
Got halfway trough the postgame in Red, got all the legendaries in Blue and DX, recruited every pokemon in Darkness, did all the postgame content in Sky, beated Gates without lingering for too long in the postgame, and 100%'d Super twice (the second time with changed starters)

Though I've also played enough EoS randomizers and hacks that hardly change shit to last me a lifetime.
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>>59140294
What's the point of an EoS randomizer?

>game already has random layouts for floors
>changing a dungeon's pokemon isn't that special
>different item spawns only really means "wow i might get golden seeds"
>random movesets? you're probably just sticking with the closest thing to reliable STAB you get anyways
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>>59140822
IDK man, it was like, 3 to 4 years ago at this point? Don't ask me.
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>>59139075
Is there an observable difference between the lookalike item's power? Bulbapedia seems to think so, it's not in our guide here. I tested it out myself with Reviser/Reviver Seeds held but the ranges were too wide for me to get meaningful data.
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>>59141292
I just opened Skytemple to check to be certain, this info is buried within the Symbols menu for those curious.

Reviser Seed is Ground type with 10 power. Reviver Seed is listed as 1 power. In practice I find that base power doesn't matter all that much in Sky, but if you must use Natural Gift Phanpy, you're better off swapping that Reviver for a Reviser once you find one. Not like the latter's got any other use, after all.
Interestingly, Plain Seed is listed as a 15 power Normal type attack.
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>>59142006
Adorable, I wish it were colored
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>>59142006
You know you're in trouble when Charmeleon is one of the more original picks in the image.
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>>59142006
a gen 10 PMD would be about the only thing that could sell me on a Switch 2. And I still would wait for such a thing's release to see if it wasn't shit since our last good entry was Sky (we can count DX if you want but let's be real).
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>>59143398
Deliberately trying to be a hipster is the same impulse as deliberately trying to be popular. A true artist uses their favorites.
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I'm not telling you become Bruxis strongest defendor, I simply want people to pick any pokemon besides the popular starter, eevees and members of Team Positive Conotation.
If these are someones' favorites then I don't want to talk to them.
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>>59143434
>shitty nugen pokemon designs (exclusively? depending on what you mean by gen 10 pmd)
>shitty 3d graphics
that sounds abysmal, that's almost 50% of the reason pmd is good absent, the soulful pixel graphics and the soulful old pokemon designs. all that's left would be the story and gameplay, and there's no way they'd let a good story get in a pokemon game nowadays and gameplay is right out.
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>>59143596
I agree with you but I just wanna feel something, Gates/Super were meh and I've never had interest in replaying them. DX not being a sprite-based game didn't take away my enjoyment of it and at this point I think PMD is the only way I'd be able to tolerate nu-pokemon designs. And no not exclusively ofc, but if a PMD were to be announced at any point going forward it'd be post Wind/Waves and have mons/mechanics that line up with that gen.

I'm actually much more open to Explorers DX, I should've just said that to begin with. After that once we're in the 2030's just let it rest, I don't think anyone would hold interest in a new PMD or god forbid a Gates to Infinity DX at that point.
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>>59143816
>'m actually much more open to Explorers DX
Which again, would just be explorers but strictly worse, like what red/blue DX was. Sounds awful. Demakes suck, and would especially suck for pmd.
If it were possible I'd love a pmd with gen 6 mons and megas, but with sprites and a real story. I know it would never happen, but that would be my ideal "next" entry in pmd. I have a soft spot for Gates because I played it so much as a kid, but the flaws of 3d, especially the BARE MINIMUM EFFORT 3d that gates, super, and dx were, just makes it impossible to enjoy to the same level as sky.
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>>59144127
KINO art
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>>59144127
Majestic, I love it
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>>59143533
I've never seen someone so ass blasted over a jolteon before.
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>>59147892
Eeveelutions in general are a blight.
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Sup. I've never used 4chan before but seeing clover guild romhacks on the Pmd Gang youtube channel made me wanna participate. Do yall have like a discord server or something for this stuff?
As for the questions, "Do you hate any pmd dungeon?" Yes. Mt Mistral made me give up on recruiting every legendary. Drifblims are a pain and ho oh only showing up sometimes is such a pain.
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>>59148261
We have a magma drawing board. The link is in the first mesage in the thread. Come and chat if you want (You'll have to create an acount).

Also should mention, that the bread and butter of the clover guild are stories and drawings. There are some hack related stuff in the works, though they wont be seeing the light of day soon. Check the "Everything about the Clover Guild" link also in the first message.
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Also since you said you've never used 4chan before, know that this board is getting quite full, so in a couple days or so, a new one will have to be created. The link to the new one will be posted here, however.
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>>59148315
>>59148331
hanks for the heads up! I already read the page explaining the basics of what clover guild is. So far ive read Weather Up There and Togetics Very Special Episode and really liked them! But also the general concept of collaborative story telling about a thing im super into sounds very fun! Im in the middle of reading some character intros and stories and im already working on an intro for a character id like to make. Im thinking a lonely male tyrantrum. Btw you guys have a rule or stance about unique pokemon? ie like fusions or design variations? Or god forbid a quadruped stands on two legs?
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>>59148261
>Drifblims are a pain
Yet another explorer filtered by DrifblimKINGS
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>>59148595
>fusions or design variations
you can try but you'll be mocked for it
>Or god forbid a quadruped stands on two legs?
kiyo
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>>59148595
>fusions or design variations
Don't do this please.
the guild in-universe is kind of a bunch of shitters so stuff that stands out in that way wouldn't work
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>>59148628
>>59148650
I see i see, like mocked in universe but the actual community dont actually mind? Or is it disliked out of universe as well? And not work in what way? Would it be a bad idea to make a character who's point is to sorta be weird visually? Im not dead set on the idea im just trying to learn the rules of this strange new world. I know theres other ways to make a character unique. (Like a character being able to use moves/abilities they wouldnt be able to normally, is that a bad idea too?)
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>>59148761
(you) the creator would be mocked for your retarded sparkledog bullshit

>tripcode
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>>59148777
Gotcha thanks for the clarity. Im new to 4chan so I just assumed tripcodes are what people did if they wanna have conversations.
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>>59148809
Most people post as anon, unless they're posting a story, or sometimes art. I don't think anyone uses tripcodes in this thread, they're only useful if you're worried about being impersonated for some reason.
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>>59148817
Understood. I plan to post my intro and stuff soon
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>>59148261
>I've never used 4chan before
>knows how to put on a tripcode
Hmm...
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>>59149198
google dot com is one of my most used sites! also i watched the Down The Rabbit Hole video on the Philmarilion
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Hey guys I had a really cool PMD idea. What if Wigglytuff was... secretly not just a cute, innocent guildmaster...
Like, what if he was actually sick... deranged... not really in control of himself...
And what if his condition got worse after the game... until finally... he's taken over and becomes a true monster?
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>>59149848
Woah. That sounds so cool and edgy and edgycool. You should do something with that, I dont think anyone else ever has. It would add that extra edge that the games are lacking
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explorers of pain mentioned
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>>59149848
I bet he can kill the entire guild too and no one could stop him, not even the power of friendship! At least until he is stopped by the power of dead friendship...
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>>59149893
Wouldn't it be sick if he could kill anything in like two seconds but he'll also sit on his ass through not just conversations taking place right in front of him but also five minute flashback sequences and a full on evolution event?
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>>59150901
oh... so somber.
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>>59152164
The add's triying too hard to look badass, but in one half you have snoty kids, and in the other, you have Pikachu and friends.

>dutch-rt-ad_org.jpg
That's french, you dumbass.
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>>59152257
don't dutch people speak french?
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>>59152164
>>59152330
This genre of ad made my nerdy ass feel like the biggest badass in the universe.
I miss when they'd do this.
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Choose your partner

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t0STm5F_bRY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AsCHxKm16-Q
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>>59152732
>charmander, turtwig, piplup
chimchar completely cucked
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>>59152835
Nobody likes Chimchar, except the people that designed Sinnoh.
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>>59140155
rescue team twice (once in english, once in jap)
sky just once (in jap). can't bring myself to do the post-game after last special episode. it feels wrong
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https://pastebin.com/5PvVgZ3a

I was wondering how the hero in EoS was transformed into a Pokemon in the first place, so I turned it into another creative writing exercise. It's very undercooked and short, but I just wanted to get all the points across (plus I'm not very good at going into detail). Again, not a writer, sorry for the cringe.
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>>59140155
For the life of me I can't remember my original Sky team, but on a replay I did Phanpy and Munchlax. First played Darkness as Torchic and Piplup.
I remember being kind of annoyed by how weird Munchlax's overworld sprites looked, they're probably the worst looking of any of the starters.
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>>59156061
>on a replay I did Phanpy and Munchlax
You better have called it Team FatFucks

>Munchlax's overworld sprites are probably the worst looking of any of the starters
Marshtomp would like to object to that.
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>>59156199
I remember playing Red, finally evolving totodile, and getting a harsh dose of reality afterwards. Feraligatr's sprite doesn't look good at all and it was a contributing factor to me preferring prevos in most cases.
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>>59156895
Evolving the hero/partner always immediately sucked the soul out of the game for me. Just losing the wake up animation at the start of the day was all it took
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>>59155378
Very cool. I like the idea of the transformation as a type of cosmic rebirth. One upside of amnesia is that you don’t have to remember your horrible death…
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>>59158260
Part of it also might have been liking the idea of small pokes running through dungeons as opposed to some giant fucker waddling through a hallway.
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would absols be more understood in pmd as pokemon can talk to each other
would they be an important part of guilds or towns for predicting or sensing incoming dangers
would they be fluffy and have well cared for fur
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>>59144127
Stunning work, as usual. Shelby would see them do this and it would change her life.
>>59148595
>>59148761
I would say just use your best judgement, but if you're not from here I can't expect you know exactly what that means. Basically, I would recommend avoiding doing shit that you would see commonly done by teenage furries on twitter. If it seems really obvious that a choice is made explicitly to try and stand out/be unique before anything else, I would avoid it. People will be able to tell and they will make fun of you (me included). When you are genuinely doing it for the love of the game, you can never truly be boring.
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>>59144127
Incredible work! Sneasel gets to have fun too :)
>>59160243
If Shelby evolvs first, will Blossom and Heidi get rides?
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>>59159933
>would they be an important part of guilds or towns for predicting or sensing incoming dangers
I like to think of their danger-sensing as always being so vague and incomprehensible that it sounds like schizobabble until the danger actually happens and people connect the dots.
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>>59160243
Audible kek
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perhaps its for the best that that it happened anyway
you cant please everyone
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>>59162072
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I'm glad its over...
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>>59162072
The worst part about Absol is when they get all whiny after whatever thing they predicted came to pass.
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>>59162112
if you were a modern day cassandra wouldnt you
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absol gf male who hangs out at the spinda cafe a lot and babbles vaguely about incoming earthquakes and droughts to the discontent of other customers, then laughs and is all proud of herself when they come true (such as a magnitude 2 earthquake). also she's super fluffy.
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>>59163172
>her bf is the one causing all the minor earthquakes and sunny days just to keep her from feeling bad because she actually sucks at doomposting
>her
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I'll never understand why they didn't just have them use their sleeping status animation instead of the walking in place thing for evolved starters waking up in the morning. I know Orion changed that and other romhacks probably do it too so it can't have been that hard to change. Isn't the walking in place thing actually what the game does when it's told to load an animation that a pokemon doesn't have?
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>Isn't the walking in place thing actually what the game does when it's told to load an animation that a pokemon doesn't have?

Yeah, when the starters are sleeping at the beds, they use the EventSleep animation (followed by the Wake Up animation), this is diferent from the Sleep animation used in dungeons.

Code whise, making the start of day scene load the Even Sleep animation for 1st stage starters and the regular sleep animation for everyone else, while not complex, it'd be comboluted. The easier fix is to copy over the sleep animation into the Even Sleep slot for mons that lack it. This is something that SkyTemple can do automatically if you're importing sprites trough the built in browser.
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