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Was the early 90s the best tile to be a kid in objective measures? Not just video games but pop culture and overall world atmosphere
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>>12342359
maybe if you were white or asian. otherwise it's a hard pass from me.
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>>12342359
I think so. Maybe more so the late 90s. Maybe your perspective has a lot more to do with when you were born
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Even Europeans were raping and killing each other in the 90's, as they do
If you were in suburban middle USA, or western Europe(not Ireland) or Japan and maybe Korea, yeah. Most of the gen x'ers who were teenagers huffing glue and listening to grunge admit that the 90's were the easiest time to be an American and they didn't have much to complain about
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>>12342368
>middle
middle class
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>>12342359
yes
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>>12342359
Being a baby boomer was the best time to be a child i.e. american born after WW2. Kid in the 80s and teen in the 90s is a decent second though.
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>>12342359
Another millennial nostalgiaslop thread....but yes it was. It was like living in fucking Camelot. Give me a time machine and put me in the fall of 1994. I'd never leave.

The thing about the video games of the era...not only were they great but the medium was growing and evolving so quickly. We went from Mario 3 to Halo in a little over a decade. There was genuine experimentation too. There were RISKS being taken and not everything was guaranteed to work - like the Virtual Boy. The 3D0 being a "format" system. Digitized graphics. It was so fun poring over magazines and it always felt like the next big thing was just around the corner.
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>>12342359
the 90's was a hot streak of rampant consumerism for sure. The 80's was noticeably tamer.

The advertisements were also very persistent and were constantly trying to one up that last extreme wave of commercials.

>power rangers
>super soakers
>crash test dummies
>mighty max
>POGS
>X-MEN
>TYCO RC cars with some random gimmick each year
>tamagochi
>pokemon

You couldn't escape it.
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Sandwiched between the fear of nuclear war and the fear of terrorists. It was a time of peace. I say this as someone living nowhere near a white country.
We were heading towards an exciting future too. The year 2000...
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>>12342359
No, it’s gen X
>playing outside all their childhood
>socializing with friends, easy to get laid with no electronic distractions
>cheap real estate and high salaries for easy office cubicle work
>still get to experience games and computers at your prime
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>>12342368
t. Korean
It fucking sucked
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>>12342359
Yeah, probably. I'm old and have two kids and they have a great life in a nice suburb but I'm sad them and their friends will never have the true fun and freedom that myself and thousands of other suburban children had from the late 60s/early to mid 90s. It breaks my heart they will never know. We had it perfect
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>>12342509
i had that rc car
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>>12342609
>let your kids out to be kids in the neighborhood
>random karen calls police on them
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>>12342609
I actively encourage my kids to round up a couple friends, get on their bikes and take off somewhere for the day and they look at me like I'm fucking crazy when I suggest that.
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>>12342571
I had a great childhood(t. '87 babby) but my guess would be that late Gen X would be the best time to grow up.
>>12343312
Same. Told my oldest to just go outside and walk around in the woods. Bang some sticks on some trees idk do something. Even built a tree fort for my kids. So far my ROI has been terrible.
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>>12342605
Did you at least get to enjoy playing the Samsung Saturn or the Hyundai Super Comboy?
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>>12342609
I think most generations think theirs was the best. My dad would say that I didn't know what fun was because during the 60s and 70s he would spend his time with friends destroying people's property, getting into fights, drinking, and smoking weed. Apparently that was considered "fun" to boomers. I just think it's being a degenerate criminal.
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>>12343361
There was leaded gasoline and paint in the air and in their new suburban homes, I can't blame boomers/early Gen X for becoming the functional psychopaths that they still are today.
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>>12342359
I think people are forgetting what pre-Internet boredom was like. There's a reason you often see posts like "yeah, this game was shit, I still finished it five times when I was a kid".
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>>12342362
lol love how brown 4channel became these last few years.
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>>12342359
Late 90s was better
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>>12343452
yep the world is slowly getting better including this apefreakan board
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>>12342845
That's not even the worse thing that could happen...
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>>12343404
Bart's Nightmare isn't a great game but I know it inside and out because it was one of two games I had for my SNES for the better part of a year.
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>>12343404
it's wild but the entire concept of boredom really no longer exists in endless scroll algorithm world
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>>12343514
I think about this a lot. I can't remember the last time I was truly bored. I used to force myself to go out, or even just watch weird shows and movies that happened to be on TV. That's completely gone now.
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>>12343404
"Pre-internet boredom" aka not being addicted to social media adhd?
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>>12343607
That's an extreme. To be fair back then older people said the same about TV. Called it electric babysitter.
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>>12343496
We had a video rental store inside of a pharmacy that had an entire 9x20 wall that was only covered in posters for new games and VHS releases. I used to go in and look up at it every weekend while my mother went shopping when I was around 11.

I remember seeing the poster for Barts Nightmare in the dead center of the collage for like a whole year.
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>>12343557
This is really the best thing about the internet. You really have access to anything, so there's always something to do or find that you haven't experienced yet, or you can always fall back on repeating something you know you love.
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>>12343723
I get what you're saying but I also it's completely neutralized my imagination and sense of exploration though.
>>12343719
Killing time in the video rental department while mom shopped is another feature of childhood that's gone forever.
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>>12343726
>>12343719
For me it was just going to the video game department of the grocery store to see if they had anything setup to play. Would eventually go to the magazine rack to read video game magazines. Was a good time honestly.
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>>12343813
>read video game magazines
I've read many many comic books while waiting on my mom to finish shopping. Only ever bought a couple.
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>>12343819
>>12343813
We had this too, I don't know who was in charge of ordering comics at Krogers in Rural Ohio but whoever it was but they made sure we got every issue of Sonic the hedgehog comic that existed until it wen out of print.
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>>12343557
I've rarely been truly bored in my entire life.
Boredom a state of mind and has little to do with external stimulus and entertainment. I could always find something to think about if there was nothing entertaining me. (note that I don't consider tedious, required toil the same as boredom)

>>12343335
>my guess would be that late Gen X would be the best time to grow up
'79 here
Lots of perks to be sure.
But there were pros and cons.
Played outside a lot, but still had great videogames. Couch/console multiplayer was great.
It's hard to compare because the selection is just so massively different and limited.
There was no minecraft.
There was no World of Warcraft to play with your bros.
Nobody had private servers for anything.
LAN parties did exist by the late 90s but really were not that prevalent. You had to have a good-sized nerd group to have one, or be lucky enough to have access to a school computer lab you could abuse.

Also there was still lots of feminism. Even at a young age I remember being annoyed at how many TV shows would stage some kind of boy vs girl competition and whenever that happened you'd know with 100% certainty that the girl was going to win and embarrass the boy.
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>>12343850
The biggest difference between the cultural boosterism of girls and women nowadays and back then is that back then boys/men were doing mostly fine. They were allowed to have their own spaces as well.
Now women are outperforming men in the job market and school. This is well documented. And of course look howjacked up relationships between the two are nowadays. But the boosterism of feminism persists so it kind of just feels like you're kicking men when they're down.
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>>12343661
Anyway I can still get bored nowadays. Boredom is a state of mind, not something that depends on having internet or not. Mindlessly swiping through internet content can be very boring, never saw the zombie face normies have while watching reels? That's hell.
Between TV/cable, VHS, music tapes/CDs, books, magazines, comics, toys and of course vidya, I really didn't have much reason to get bored back then, other than if my mind decided to get bored.
Not having internet also meant being able to enjoy things in a less hectic way, things would sink more because you got less distracted.
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>>12343457
Late 90s were definitely fun but more for pre-teens and teens. The world atmosphere became more edgy and gritty, almost as a forecast of what the world would turn into the following decade but without the real dread, while the early 90s still had that naivety and colorful playfulness of the 80s but with extra post modern spice, it was the exact point in time that was the best to be a kid in between 6 and 12 or so.
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>>12343938
>Not having internet also meant being able to enjoy things in a less hectic way, things would sink more because you got less distracted.
This is a point I think is not stressed enough.
Before the (massive, social media-coded) internet, you would enjoy a movie, book, game etc and you just processed it yourself, maybe you had family and friends you shared it with and also processed it with them (most of the times IRL) but overall enjoying different things had a slower process, and because of this, it had a more profound impact.
Nowadays people constantly get feedback from a gorillion anonymous internet randos, before, during and after consuming something, people are obsessed with either sharing or watching other people's reactions and thoughts and everyone gets spoiled, told what to think, if they should like something or not, if something is problematic... you get the idea.
It's a shame the social media internet did this to people, but I don't imagine a way to go back to how it was before. The way humans consume media has changed.
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>>12343938
>>12344153
The internet factor doesn't have to be all-or-nothing like that. I always felt that the late 90s/early 00s was kind of a sweet spot where the internet was useful and fun but was still far from dominating our lives.
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>>12345054
Yeah I know there are exceptions to the rule, but 99% of people uses social networks and are constantly browsing memes about [current thing that the algo feeds]
It's very rare to find people today that isn't within that feedback loop of consuming and being in constant contact with other people's reactions to consuming the thing.
Consciously deciding to stay away from it takes a bit of effort most people don't do because they aren't even aware of it.
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>>12342359
Yeah, probably was, for America at least
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>>12342571
>>12343335
88 here and still played outside a bunch, though my older bro born in 83 did even more so. We both got to wander around pretty freely if we wanted. Meanwhile, my younger brother (94) didn't get that experience as much. Felt like parents got more strict by the 2000s with letting their kids wander outside.
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Getting cable TV was awesome back then.
24 hours of cartoons both old and new.
I remember staying late on saturdays to watch the Tex Avery Joe on CN, circa 1995.
Good times.
It was sad when CN stopped being about classic stuff and all the HB classics went to Boomerang
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>>12345213
Columbine and 9/11 were the one-two punch that destroyed innocence and child autonomy in this country.
>>12345556
We had cable but I remember in the late 90s ours got upgraded and spent a lot of time watching Howard Stern. Really made an impression on me as a 13 year old!
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>>12342359
90s for kids
80s for teens and adults
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>>12344153
>>12345054
>>12345152
The other factor is just the sheer unimaginable volume of accessible entertainment.
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>>12346009
The reality is that entertainment was still immense during the 90s, you're mistaking it with information networks.
Between TV, radio and music (and add to that video games) people had virtually unlimited entertainment.
You're bored? Read a book, watch a TV show, go to the movies, go to the arcades, play vidya at home, rent a movie, play with toys, play with friends outside.
Watching reels isn't exactly what I'd consider a quality or world-changing experience in terms of entertainment.
The main difference is the access to information (often wrong and malignant online nowadays) but in terms of entertainment the average person isn't doing any better than watching a CALL NOW hyperactive infomercial over and over.
I'd even argue people get more bored/desensitized to stimulus because of so much social media feedback
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>>12342359
No, the 80s were. This isn't even a new topic to consider. It's pretty settled.
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>>12347692
90s had better video games though, especially when considering you could get the 80s ones for cheap by then.
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>>12347540
>Between TV, radio
Lol

I'm sorry but that stuff is massively limited to a set of channels that dictate what you're experiencing in a given moment. It's NOTHNG like having the entire set of known music/plays/films/shows/books etc. from the past few hundred years, from many different countries, available by typing text into a box.

If this is 'desensitizing' to you in comparison, then that's a you problem, it means you're an inferior kind of human who'd rather eat whatever slop is served than explore and experience the range of what is possible for yourself.
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>>12347692
90s had more accessibility to technology than the 80s.
90s is the sweet spot between the old analog world and the new digital one, without it being taintes by the always-online condition of nowadays
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>>12347702
I'm not talking about myself, I'm old now and of course I choose what I consume and of course I utilize today's technology to my advantage.
I'm talking about the actual form of entertainment for most people of this era: watching endless brainrot reels
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>>12347540
I'm not mistaking anything.
Yes, entertainment was still immense in the 90s but nothing even CLOSE to what exists now in terms of cost and choice.

You could pay $3-$5 to rent one of maybe a thousand movies and a few dozen videogames (if no one else had rented it already... I distinctly recall never being able to rent Secret of Mana for this reason). You could watch one channel and see whatever was playing in you region at the time.

Today, kids can watch Mark Rober and Dude Perfect on demand. They can watch longplays of roughly every videogame ever made. They may have access to streaming to watch any Disney movie ever whenever they want, including all Star Wars and Marvel movies. Plus all the non-disney stuff like the Mario Movie and Kung Fu Panda and How to Train your Dragon and so on. They can watch obscure sports or music videos or whatever suits them.

I have the entire game libraries for every 8 and 16 bit system downloaded from the internet and can play them whenever I want. I have a huge shelf of games on GOG that I got for peanuts (which could have been free if I'd felt like dealing with abandonware hassles).

The list just goes on and on. If you are a parent today the difference is obvious. The actual choice is infinite in a way that it simply wasn't in 1995.
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>>12348281
I'd argue we are past the golden age of "unlimited free entertainment" on the internet. Golden era was probably 2005-2009 or whatever year was that Megaupload got fucked and corpos started regulating the internet in a serious way, which developed in where we are now.
In those years we had fast internet, instant DL links and a less homogenized internet with more individuality and without social media taking over.
This indeed resulted in a great era to be a young adult and have access to seemingly unlimited fun.
Nowadays, however? Sure the internet is faster but I don't play video games online and the speed I had in 2006 was more than enough to download movies and the like in very little time.
But here's the funny thing, despite MEGA existing (though it's not as good as Megaupload was), torrents still existing, people in general just don't care about pirating anymore. Go to /v/ and try talking about piracy, they unironically will laugh at you. Kids don't want to pirate, they want to grow their digital libraries on Steam or whatever.
People don't want to pirate a movie, they will just wait until it's on Netflix because, uh, it's too much hassle otherwise or something.
They won.
We should be thriving in an era of unlimited entertainment, but instead most people are trapped on an endless brainrot loop, not really getting entertained, just getting mindless stimulus from short videos they will forget in a couple minutes.
I'll take the more soulful way society engaged entertainment in the 90s rather than nowadays.
Again I'm speaking about the general population, society as a whole and culture, not my personal case, I'm doing fine not using tiktok or instagram and only consuming what I truly like, but I know I'm an outlier and definitely not part of today's society in terms of culture.
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>>12348306
Even "legitimate" sources of entertainment were better back then. There really was a golden age of streaming. Netflix was 8 bucks a month and you had a huge DVD library and a pretty good selection of movies to choose from.
Now if there's something I actually want to watch I'll have to do research to see if it's actually available on anything I have and it'll turn out it's only available on something that's 10 bucks a month AND has commercials. No wonder people pirate.
Tubi rules though.
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>>12343850
>There was no minecraft.
We had LEGOs, Construx, and Capsela.
>There was no World of Warcraft to play with your bros.
We had D&D, AD&D, Crossbows & Catapults...
>Nobody had private servers for anything.
Online gaming wasn't a thing until modems and in the 80s we did direct dial-up to our friends to play, or download ROMs/warez from a pirate BBS.

It was actually better because 5 billion brownoids weren't online asking retard questions and shitting up our society back then. Giving smartphones to retardniggers was a huge mistake.
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>>12343850
>There was no World of Warcraft
This is a bad thing?
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>>12348360
What do you think edgefag?

Did you ever live in a world with no online games? Do you know what it's like to understand that internet multi-player is theoretically possible, but completely unavailable to you to actually experience?

It seems to me that the late millennials and zoomers who were 11-16ish during peak of classic WoW have lots of great memories playing it with their friends.

Gen X at the same age was fiddling with 2400 baud modems chasing a pipe dream of network multiplayer, and fiddling with autoexec.bat and config.sys to unload devices to have enough main memory to run single player DOS games.
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>>12348359
>we did direct dial-up to friends
Lmao no you didn't.
Direct dialing friends was maybe something a tiny few nerds did one time as a proof to see it was possible. It wasn't remotely practical for any kind of routine play even in games where support wasn atrocious and the vast majority of people didn't even try.
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>>12348421
I never liked wow and I feel it robbed people of time from playing actual good video games.
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>>12349007
Of course you did.
Vague whining about World of Warcraft and its effect on the industry has long been a major tell for being an insufferable try-hard hipster contrarian who can't tell the difference between unpopular and good.
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>>12349128
I'm nit whining, and I don't need to play WoW in order to realize it caused addiction, and I mean people not playing anything else other than WoW, as a "social obligation".
WoW robbed a lot of people's time.
And also online gaming killed real multiplayer (IRL), it's one of the pillars of modern gaming
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>>12349291
>WoW robbed a lot of people's time.
Yes Uncle Ted, the World of Warcraft and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race. So very edgy of you to point out that people made poor life decisions playing games instead of doing something more productive.
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>>12349303
It's not a problem of "wasting time playing games", it's wasting time on ONE game that caused addiction more for the social aspect than the actual gameplay. Nobody enjoyed WoW's gameplay, but they were hostages to the game because muh guild maaaaaan.
Again, one of the pillars of modern gaming mindset and one of the nails in the coffin of old video game ethos
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Being a Baby Boomers is objectively the best. Best economy in US history. You get to live through the apogee of an empire without fighting for it. You slash taxes during your peak earning years again and again, vote yourself trillions in benefits, then pass your kids the bill. You take the White House in 1992 and Congress shortly thereafter and quickly become a supermajority. You hold it for (at least) 37 more years. The prime of life used to be considered about 25-45, but after you the median age of cabinets and legislatures climbs well north of retirement age. Everything is set up for your benefit. Mass migration is there to keep your consumer prices down and drives your home's value sky high. You bought your first house after dropping out of high school and working in a factory for two years. Now it makes you a millionaire. You age into free government healthcare right as prices become truly horrifically unaffordable, you are passing on $276,000 in public debt per person under age 60, but you will never pay the cost for it. You get to define culture and the market for your entire life.

And when you were young you had more sexual partners than any generation before or since, did more drugs than any generation before or since, committed more crimes, enjoyed dominating the culture, and yet still get to moralize at the young people whose future you cannibalized.

And you could still be into peak 90s games in your 30s. Being an American Boomer was like getting to be a Roman Patrician in the late Republic. You got to sail on the highest of highs seen in centuries without working for it, and rode it so hard it would crash into disaster after you died.
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>>12348560
That escalated oddly, you sound new.
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>>12349321
I feel the boomers had the best adult life, but best kid life is definitely late 80s/early 90s
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>>12349327
they also sound like a retard faggot. 90% chance they're a jeet streetshitter trying to cope kek. who the fuck writes like that.
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>>12349328
IDK, free acid and free love seem pretty rad. Also, the $126 weekly wage you could get out of high school is the equivalent to like $55,000 today, which isn't great, but it's certainly great for an 18 year old. It's a lot easier to understand how Boomers moved out and got married back then when you realize they could easily pull down $100,000+ in today's money with a firm handshake.
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>>12349291
>And also online gaming killed real multiplayer (IRL)
Yeah, but "IRL multiplayer" was never as active as online gaming.
The only thing stopping people from having madden tournaments in their living room like it's 1999 is that
(a) everyone has more fun playing Fortnite.
(b) people's IRL social skills have been ruined by social media
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>>12349351
>free acid and free love seem pretty rad
Nah it just means you would get cucked. Free love is what eventually devolved into today's hellscape in regards to dating.
And again, taking drugs and sex is an adult thing, I'm talking about being a kid.
The world was comfy in the winning countries after WWII, but still no video games, no cable TV
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>>12349358
>Yeah, but "IRL multiplayer" was never as active as online gaming.
Quality over quantity my dude.
Also the nature of MMORPGs and MMOs in general cause addiction, it's not real enjoyment
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>>12349310
>Nobody enjoyed WoW's gameplay
Simply not true. It's got great gameplay that people enjoyed a lot.
There's criticism to make of WoW and its addictive properties.
There's criticism to make of addictive games in general and the padded timesinks in MMORPGs specifically.
You're not actually doing anything like that.
You're just ignorantly and half-assedly parroting the edgy contrarian "oh no wow killed my puppy" bullshit.

>>12349321
>Being a Baby Boomers is objectively the best.
Boomers had real corporal punishment and vietnam draft.
>You bought your first house after dropping out of high school and working in a factory for two years.
Maybe if you had some wealthy grandparent to fund your downpayment you could do that. Otherwise probably not.
Also, the "houses" that boomers considered acceptable were tiny houses in shitty neighborhoods that zoomers look down their noses at as entirely unacceptable. I'm not denying that zoomers have some serious legitimate gripes about the state of the housing market (thanks open borders retards) but the fact is that posts like these are never fair about how life actually was for boomers.

American boomers definitely had far fewer obese girls and foreigners to deal with, though.
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>>12349364
>Quality over quantity my dude.
You can still play IRL multiplayer if you have the social network to pull it off.
Quality over quantity, right?
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>>12349362
>but still no video games, no cable TV
thats literally a good thing, you are just too brainwashed to imagine a world without that shit.
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>>12349362
>>12349351
>IDK, free acid and free love seem pretty rad.
IRL everyone hated hippies.
They were just dirty and smelly losers.
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>>12349392
>thats literally a good thing
>still posting on /vr/
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>>12349396
you cant put the genie back in the bottle, now that the internet and all this mindrot exists you cant go back to a world without it.
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>>12349392
You sound like a zoomer trying to reverse arguments
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>>12348359
I loved Legos, so I could see myself liking Minecraft if I was a kid today. I've never played it though but it sure looks better and more creative than some Fortnite brainrot.
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>>12342362
Yeah, the 90s were amazing if your skin matched the game's main character. Everyone else got European Extreme difficulty, even before MGS2.
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>>12349387
The punishment thing is a joke. It's not like they were still actively beating kids. The draft was a real thing for older Boomers (although younger ones missed it and wealthy ones could get out of it easily), but also you had a 95+% chance of not getting drafted and a decent chance of a non-combat position if you did. It was not like WWI or WWII conscription, let alone Civil War conscription.

Housing stock in much of the US is older than even the Boomers so I don't know what you're talking about with the homes. It's largely new construction that is larger. People priced out in the big cities are competing for homes a century old in many cases. And homes were definitely vastly more affordable. So was education and healthcare.

You also had vastly higher rates of social mobility (poor kids becoming rich adults and rich kids being allowed to fail) and wealth equality, while also being vastly more homogeneous (not just ethically, but in terms of religion, ideology, etc.), which made it a much nicer place to live than Gilded Age 2.0.
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>>12342359
Absolutely. After 2007, it all went to shit.
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>>12349589
Punishment was not a joke. My boomer dad was taken to the shed and beaten with a belt if he got in trouble. Once he got it for something he didn't even do, sister had lied about it and the father believed her. Not some hick backwoods hillbilly either they were upper-middle class whites. Btw I know some boomers grew up in hick places in the rural south and they had it even worse.

Catholic schools still had nuns that would hit your hands with a ruler for bad handwriting and spelling.
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>>12342359
>Was the early 90s the best tile to be a kid in objective measures? Not just video games but pop culture and overall world atmosphere

It depends.

The best times for pop culture were the 80s.

BUT the best times for videogames were the 90s.
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>>12348306
And corpofucks keep subverting our entertainment with censorship, bad remasters of old movies, and gaugin the dime.
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>>12342359
>were the early 90s the best time to be a kid in objective measure?
For me, yes, but I also live in a very small town surrounded by woods and paths and places to explore. Technology was constantly improving, especially in games, it was exciting. Now I would say everything's pretty much stagnated since the 360/PS3/Wii.
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>>12343358
no
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>>12349387
>Also, the "houses" that boomers considered acceptable were tiny houses in shitty neighborhoods
True, but the social stratification was different. Poor people up until that point were poor by birth and had little upward mobility, this had the effect that just because you were poor didn't make you a bad person so even "shitty" neighbourhoods had a high likelihood that you'd be surrounded by good people who have shit circumstances. But then in short order social mobility happened. The good people started to get rewarded for their hard work and became middle class. They moved on and upward into better houses in better areas. This left the shitty areas to be filled with shitty people.
tl;dr a boomer moving into a shitty 1st house in a "bad" area would have an objectively better experience with more upward mobility than you trying the same today.
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I’m fond of it. But I never grew up at any other time.
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>>12349397
>you cant put the genie back in the bottle
Genies go back in the bottle after 3 wishes.
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>>12342359
Eh.........I am a bit late to this thread, but I will respond
87' here
Pros
>no zoomers
>sjws didn't exist
>was beyond easy to get laid
people were marrying
>chinese had no say in video game development
tencent wasn't a thing and dogshit like league/WoW didn't exist yet
>any type of character could be a video game dude
monsters, mutants, freaks. Literally anybody.
>gas was cheap as fuck
>music was much better

Cons
>internet wasn't what is today
>no torrents
I can play rare games that didn't come over to the US
>hard to acquire information
you had a library and that was that. We didn't have tutorial vids, torrents etc.
>anime vids were 19.99-29.99 a pop
I could easily just stream or torrent any series right now for free. I remember actually saving my allowance to buy a couple of series and it was a bitch.

>4th gen games were expensive
5th gen not so much
>GPS didn't exist yet
>cell phones weren't wide spread
>no torrents
at the mercy of network tv
>CRT TVS and Monitors burned one's eye
>no aim till 98ish
>>12343404
correcttamundo!!! Now we can research anything or look up other games anytime. I spend my days looking up tutorials and still aiming for that japanese proficency. I started when I was 14, but have had gaps. I honestly wish it was this easy 20-25 years ago.
>>12345556
But ever since like 03'ish I can watch anything anytime, I don't have to watch TV at a certain time. It's liberating.
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>>12352228
>can watch anything anytime
Congrats, you're part of the pre-social media, pre-on demand streaming services generation
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>>12342378
America right after the war sounded amazing in terms of how friendly and safe society was. I would have fucking hated the 60s and 70s though. The thought of getting drafted sucks ass and I personally hate hippie culture as well as most of the music.
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>>12342368
>Even Europeans were raping and killing each other in the 90's, as they do
only in the Balkans
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>>12343361
lol you reminded me of a story my (now very old) boomer dad told me of how he and his brother would get stone drunk and recklessly drive their truck in the wilderness. He said he once blacked out and when he came to he was barreling through a bunch of fences. Even while telling the story there was still zero conscious thought about his actions, it almost sounded like recalling a dream he had

Mind you I once accidentally came home past curfew during the summer as a teenager and they treated me like a buttfucking criminal for several weeks
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>>12343404
Absolutely. I’ve tried to explain this to people my age who experienced summer vacation pre-internet. Yes, I had neighborhood friends and whatever but I distinctly remember the days of just lying on the floor watching TV or some movie for the millionth time. For me, that was actual brain rot.
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>>12343404
boredom is an essential component to a healthy mind
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>>12353010
>that was actual brain rot.
It was not. During what you call "boredom" your unconscious was having inner dialogues and processing stuff. As the other anon said, what you call "boredom" was healthy.
Modern reel binging is actual brain rot and also unhealthy. And causes real boredom.
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>>12342359
It was a time in which there was a healthy balance between playing outdoors and playing vidya at home. More "traditional toys" like Scalextric, RC cars, pull-back cars also co-lived with your console.
If you were European you watched American cartoons like Ninja Turtles, the Real Ghostbusters, etc and animes like Dragon Ball, Ranma 1/2 and Dragon Quest.
The kind of music you would listen to at birthday parties, bumper cars atractions, the radio, etc was eurodance or pop. There's a high chance your first music CD was some eurodance compilation.
You also saw the first large production movies that included CG 3D characters (The Abyss, Terminator 2, Jurassic Park...), a bit later you would also get fully 3D movies like Toy Story.
The 90s were like a transitory decade between digital non-native kids and digital native ones.
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>>12354086
The irony of penning an article about how modern kids are trained for constant stimulation while half of the article is bolded for constant stimulation is hilarious.
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>>12354116
That's not ironic that just means he's targeting the right audience.
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>>12353081
This is what running out of thoughts looks like.
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>>12353081
this response feels defensive. wasn't attacking you kek.

>>12354142
pretty much
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>>12354086
>em dashes and bold everywhere in this ai sloppa
This man uses Sillytavern and some shitty preset he found on /aicg/
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>>12342359
Legit question. For me, it was the space. The availability of third spaces for that matter. Streets and parks felt like safe, discoverable places, and media was appointment-based as in you actually sat and watched a show with friends. No smartphone culture meant boredom turned into creativity. Any other early-90s memories that can't be replicated now?
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>>12354476
Building off the media thing - you didn't have endless games, TV shows and movies accessible immediately through legitimate and illegitimate means. You had to track down and pay for stuff. There was BUY IN there. It helped command your attention and you appreciated it more. You can still replicate this to an extent nowadays but it feels like a larp. Why go to the store and buy a blu ray when you can just pirate or find it on streaming somewhere?
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>>12354409
this post is AI
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>>12354476
I miss not having to check in for social media in every social gathering. In general I miss the days without social media, that's what broke society, not the internet per se.
It's so tiresome to not be able to have a social activity without people taking pics and wanting to tag you for their instagram stories. In my case it's gotten to the point I'm tired of explaining that, no, I do not have an Instagram account so no, you can't tag me in your story.
I miss something as simple as privacy.
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>>12355223
I miss the days of not being forced to use a cell phone
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>>12356316
preach
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For being a child, let's say from 3 to 12 or so, the internet is not necessary and even harmful, with lots of real ugly slop made for children entertainment and also early exposure to social media bullshit, so absolutely, 80s and 90s seem like the ideal time to be a kid: all the accumulated previous decades worth of entertainment plus all the things coming out at the time. Still cel animation was the norm and mlst of the best video games of all time.
For being a teenager, the fast DSL internet times BUT without social media of the early 00s was good, the downer is the whole world was somber already after 2001
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1984-1997 was essentially the "vaporwave vibes" era before the Y2K vibes started around 1997-1998.
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>>12343514
I get bored all the time, nigga.
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>>12343917
Women are only *outperforming* men in non-jobs, anon. If
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>>12358993
The problem with this kind of timelines, is that is goes one style at a time. When it's various styles coexisting at the same time
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>>12349128
>so salty about his beloved WOW and especially about some dude who simply and mildly expressed he doesnt like it
we get it you love WOW. now go there and play 20 hours in a row. bye
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>>12349813
We should never have spared the rod.
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>>12359151
Yeah I associate the 80s and early 90s with a lot of wood paneling and public ashtrays. Things weren't quite as colorful and neon as people like to think.
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>>12359114
This is a cope.
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>>12342359
Yes.
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>>12359153
>immediately turns to ad hom
I don't particularly love wow.
I played it for a few months, made it to like level 45 or something before quitting. Never played it again except a few years back on an emulator just to fuck around.

It was a good game, though, and earned the popularity it got. I think MMORPGs in general took attention and funding away from the single-player RPG market (and had been doing that since the late 90s). But otherwise its effect on the industry was not particularly negative. Games like Minecraft would come along later and have a far more lasting and profound effect on game development, while other modern gaming cancer like loot boxes and freemium were coming regardless of what WoW did.
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>>12342509
The 80s was the origin of toy sale oriented cartoons, can't agree.
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>>12342359
80s/early 90s, yeah.
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>>12349321
> Mass migration is there to keep your consumer prices down
Doesn't that drive up demand, when then drives prices up kek?

t. not an economist
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>>12358993
The "Saved by the bell" opening had a lot of this Memphis Design style.
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>>12361719
Not on the same level. Aliens work for very little money, and they have large families or they sent the majority of the money to their country. Plus they normally have conservative values opposed to western consumerism.
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>>12352990
Who are Europeans
And once again, 30 years later, Slavs are at it again
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>>12362085
homemade toys are nice
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>>12342362
>maybe if you were white or asian.
those are the only people who should be in the country anyways so obviously we are talking about their experience
>>12342571
In hindsight I think Gen X ended up with the best overall package. Was there for the 90s but didn't end up ultra cucked psychic victims like millennials.
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>>12343404
i think boredom was better than the weird dopamine zombie thing we have now
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>>12345054
late 90s/early 00s internet literally felt like the wardrobe to narnia if you were a teen around that time.
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>>12345213
85 here, when I was 10 I used to ride my bike 5 miles to the mall to play games at the arcade. no phones or anything, parents just told me to be back in time for dinner. nowadays i wouldn't even live in a city, much less let my kids do something like that. i realize bad things have always happened to people but it's crazy to think back about the general level of trust that people felt in society.
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>>12349589
The shitty thing about getting drafted is that you lost a lot of agency on where you'd get sent. Maybe it would be combat maybe it wouldn't.
My grandfather was a major in the army and he got word that my father's draft papers were coming through the system. He rushed home that day and dragged him to the enlistment office before the papers could be delivered because he knew he was bright enough to do well on the aptitude test. It ended up working out he got put into some kind of technical MOS and eventually got engineering degree.
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>>12358993
Man, aesthetics really went to shit circa 2013, didn't they?
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>>12362698
Along with everything else.
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>>12352657
not saying it like to be spoiled, I got alot of shit to do. It's just great not having to tune in at a certain time and having to be glued to the TV then with commercials.
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>>12363704
Yeah but we already had that in the pre-social media times. And without having to pay for subscriptions.
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>>12362543
Which country are you talking about? This wasn't US-specific, and injecting racial gatekeeping instead of answering is a derail. Name the country and measures, or you're just another Democrat.

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