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>>12348570
make sure you play with the superior FM soundtrack

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>>12348570
It's a great RPG really, better than then the 8-bit Final Fantasy and Dragon Quest games in my opinion. It's too bad the sequels didn't keep the first person dungeon perspective as it was pretty immersive. I personally had some graph paper in storage and used it to make maps. Kinda fun to do so, I think Deadly Towers was the last game I had used ot with to make maps for before that

https://youtu.be/VlGHPDBba7A?si=TfHlReJ1mI3hVAxV

>>12348590
>PSG ear rape
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DnQz9njOPXg is far better

>>12348595
I personally just prefer the PSG music on most games even if the FM stuff https://youtu.be/eoZNL6f7_mI?si=6yML-y6A3gHPF2yq is objectively probably better quality.

I dunno I guess I'm just used to that classic Master System sound and it just feels odd without it. The FM stuff just makes me think of Genesis games instead

>>12348570
It's absolutely great.
Sadly, in a lot of ways 2 takes steps back. The "dungeon crawling" is not nearly as good, especially due to this awful foreground effect making already confusing dungeons even more confusing. The story is fairly bare bones as well.

If you are playing through the series like I did, I'd give it the 2 hour rule and if you just aren't having fun, watch a recap and move on to 4. 4 is as good as everyone says it is and ties back into 1 and 2 in some really fun ways. The story is also a lot better and the game does some awesome stuff to make sure you aren't wasting your time.

>>12348570
I loved it when I played it on the sega ages version for switch for the first time

Is the remake finally properly fan translated or does it still have the tyrone shit for some reason?

>tfw after beating 4 I wanted more
>not really much left outside of some Game Gear titles
>decide to try Nova for psp
>gameplay is actually okay but the story is mediocre at best
>doesn't really touch back on 1-4 outside of various naming conventions
>saddles you with the equivalent of a DMPC, feel like a side character in the story

makes me sad.

>>12348570
the faux-3d dungeons are tedious as fuck

>>12349204
>is it trannylated or does it have the correct name
dilate

>>12349436
ok optometrist

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>>12348570
I'm trying to make a program to map the game. I really want to get time to play this someday.

>>12349073
I'm actually playing 1 because I am such a fan of 2 lol
Actually the one I am obviously trying to keep a open mind for is 3, which I've fired up for a bit, saw that battle screen with those chickens and went "Huh, I'll come back later"

>>12350647
It's fairly short, I'd say you can clear it in a weekend or two, and whilst I still play the SMS version the Switch port adds lots of really nice QoL features and an automap in one of the modes which obviously helps a lot if you're intimidated by an oldschool JRPG.
PS1 is my favourite 8-bit JRPG

>>12348595
I like PSG more than FM

>>12350647
>>11658589

>>12351240
That's absolutely fair. If you dig classic JRPG's then I don't think there's much to dislike in 2. It has a bit of a bare bones story, but most games around that time period did, the turn based combat is fast and the sprite work is nice. Like I said, about my only gripe is the foreground effect making it hard to keep track of your exploration. For me, going from 1 to 2 was not fun, but it was worth it to get to 4 and see how it touched back on them. 1 and 4 are the peaks in my book, 2 is good, just hard to go back to if you aren't accustomed to classic JRPG's like me.

>>12351885
That's a platform

>>12353139
I think given the context you should know what I mean.
Besides some fuckwit here will tell you that it's ackshually "PSX".

>>12348570
The ending of this game is very unique and almost unsettling. I don't wanna spoil anything, but if you come back after beating this then we can have a cool discussion. Great game, all four are. 3 isn't as good as the others but is over hated and worth at least one play through.

I've always been a fan of these games recognizing the repetition in JRPG combat and just autoplaying the last command you selected until you manually stop it. That's the one thing i think 3 did better than 4, though 4 has macros which is very much appreciated too. It's like a more tactical version of FF13's auto combat system.

>>12354391
>3 isn't as good as the others but is over hated
>over hated
Meanwhile, Phantasy Star 3: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dfj1kWwDVW0

>>12354420
the worst part about the battle music is how it changes depending on whos turn it is. The calm theme coupled with the blow your face off start really is a schizophrenic experience.

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Had the same experience. You know it came out literally two days after Final Fantasy 1? And Phantasy Star II came out right after Final Fantasy 2. That's what surprised me the most.

>>12354406
As somebody who has tried and failed to get into jrpgs time and time again, the one thing that helped me beat this series is that it does its absolute best to make sure you never waste your time. It gives you spells, items, and vehicles to speed up travel. The grind (on the jp versions) were minimal, and it just cut out a lot of the fluff most jrpg's had. Heck, on 4 I even 100%'d it just because I genuinely enjoyed my time with it.

Sucks there aren't many places to go with the series after that.

>>12348570
kys sega system nigger

>>12355017
>mindbroken by auster: one anon's tragic story
Relax, my dude, it's just a Phantasy Star thread

>>12355031
That guy really has poisoned the well though for those of us that actually like the console and want to talk about the games

>>12355031
>>12355036
Nice try SEGA System mongoloid faggot deluxe with cheese. No one but you gives a flying monkey shart about sega MASTER system games here except me and I hardly ever make threads.

>>12355039
phantasy star 1 is the only master system game that a normal person would actually play.

>>12355040
Phantasy Star series all suck. Boring walking simulators with bonus non-game combat.
But what sucks worse is you, spammer.

>walking simulator
You gave yourself away with this

>>12355061
SimulatorS plural, retard.

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>>12348570
It is cryptic in is old fashioned gameplay, but that's the same charm which led to those Etrian Odyssey games featuring those same old-fashioned design philosophies which are off-putting to most yet a limited few find rewarding. A classmate lent me a Power Base converter and the game, just to demonstrate it as one of their most favorite games of the day and I too was enamored by its gameplay loop.

>>12355073
Granite nigger is the sega system spammer.

>>12355061
Sometimes I wonder if there's some entity out there that has an ai programmed just to trash up threads across the site.

>>12355075
Fake faggot well poisoner

Which is the best way to play this game?
The Switch port of 1 seems to have a bunch of QOL features while still being the original game or should i just play the remake Phantasy Star Generation 1?

>>12355852
From what I hear, you want the Switch versions. The remakes are kinda eh and are mainly notable for having a long-winded, Mew-under-the-truck way of reviving a certain party member in the second game.

>>12355852
Definitely the Switch version. The automap is just a huge improvement over the original game. Without it you will be having to break out graph paper and make maps of every dungeon which may be something you'll completely hate

>>12355518
>oh no they know!

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>>12355075
While the Genesis+addons, Saturn, and Dreamcast all are top 10 non-PC/handheld gaming consoles to me, I also like the other systems too from Microsoft, NEC, Nintendo, SNK, etc. However, yes, I am a fan of Sega games which is uncommon and not the popular opinion, I get it.

>>12356604
Clean that Power Base Converter, SEGA System Nigger.

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>>12350647
Last time I played it, I used a dedicated PS mapping tool for Android called Maps for Phantasy Star, but I'm not sure it runs on modern Android

>>12348570
Oh ma*ENEMY ENCOUNTER*n, I love *ENEMY ENCOUNTER* Pha*ENEMT ENCOUNTER*nta*ENEMY ENCOUNTER*sy St*ENEMY ENCOUNTER*ar 1!

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>>12356043
>break out graph paper
It's the 21st century, man, we have mapping software now >>12350647
>>12356751

>>12357097
>>>12356751
kek, meant to point at >>12357083

>>12357087
First 80's RPG?

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I loved Phantasy Star 1 and beat it years ago, but every time I've tried 2 I've bounced off. I know there's a couple rebalance patches, should I try one of those or just skip to 4?

>>12357097
Which one is this?

>>12357172
Nope but it was the last

>>12357493
Grid Cartographer

ITT: Anons who play Phantasy Star and think it's great, but hate Ocarina of Time.
It's ok to laugh.

>>12357825
Who the fuck said anything about Ocarina, you schizo?

>>12358319
You just keep on projecting.
And thanks for letting everyone know that you can't understand comparisons.
you should kys.

>>12355017
>>12355039
>>12355043
>>12355062
>>12355075
>>12356046
>>12357825
>>12358323
Samefag (which are all me btw.)

>>12358593
Don't impersonate me, idiot.

with translation of phantasy star is the best? the original, fan translation or the literal version of the fan translation?

>>12359362
Quite honestly, the original. Yeah the abbreviation and name changes can be a drag, but the dialog itself is pretty well done for the time. Maybe a handful of moments could've been reclarified, but fan translations have this tendency of throwing out the baby with the bathwater, especially if you have someone fellating themselves over the fact they expanded the character limit. Then script injector tends to lose self control and make it flowery. In this case, they added literal fanfiction based on a synopsis of a manga adaptation or something they read...
Very very few translations of already translated games justify themselves, unless the official release was uncensored or it had intrusive gameplay tweaks, or a previous fan translation was a total hackjob.

>>12355040
Nuh uh, there's also Alex Kidd

>>12348570
I made my own maps, was kino.

>>12360407
based

>>12355852
Switch version due to the auto map and built in EXP multiplier. Which is one of the few times where I can safely say the EXP multiplier didn't break the balance of the game, cause even with it on the final two bosses still pushed me hard.

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>>12360314
The literal one looks like it had the courage to roll a lot back to the original translation, and seems the closest...
What was the point of the non-literal "retranslations" again?

>>12360386
Alex Kidd in Shinobi World kicks serious ass. Also Golden Axe Warrior is great too.

>>12350647
Some Japanese guy made a mapper for Wizardry but you can use it for anything.
https://graphpaper-news.blogspot.com/2024/10/1.html

OP here
Beat 1 and working my way through 2 (got Hugh/Anna)
Plan on working my way through all 4 games
ngl tempted to just skip 3 to get into 4 right after I beat 2, but still wanna do it for completion sake

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We love Alis, here?

>>12363381
I tried to give 3 a chance a few months back and honestly completely hated it. It just felt like such a dull uninspired mess to me. I gave up after a few hours and have no real desire to ever play it again,maybe you'll feel differently. I would absolutely avoid it and go straight to Phantasy Star 4 after you finish the 2nd game.

Be patient with 2, it's a good game but some of the dungeon designs can be rather extreme and even with maps it can be very challenging. It's worth completing at least once though

>>12362903
Holy hell I've been looking for basically exactly this for forever, thank you.

>tfw no switch version of 2/3/4