Yes. The story is retarded but the gameplay is still amazing.

kojima literally remade metal gear 2 as a 3D game and called it a sequel. how did h get away with it?

>>12361041
Nah, play Twin Snakes instead

>>12361041
bruh its only 30 fps, completely unplayable.

>>12361082
Japs know that the stupid goyim will buy anything

>>12361041
I played it for the first time just a few years ago and it was great. I even used the same memory card file as my SotN save to get Mantis's goofy easter egg.

>>12361120
This. I can't understand how this was acceptable. I beat the game too.

>>12361082
he remade MGS twice on ps2 and retards ate it up

>>12361041
better than everything that came after, worse than msx kino

>>12361041
If you have to ask, the answer is "No and fuck off back to modern gaming"

>>12361041
if you accept what it is, a visual novel anime with some novelties breaking it up, I would say yes. the story is supported by extremely competent art design/production and the gameplay is largely an inoffensive mix of gimmicks and puzzles. you can call it shallow but I don't think you can call it bad.

>>12361041
Yes. Both the story and gameplay are amazing.

>>12361274
How so

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>>12361041
Yup.

>>12361320
msx games are light on cutscenes and shitty stealth, mgs is ok because the characters are interesting and controls work fine. everything after that leans more into stealth which mgs never does well and controls and stories only get worse. snake's revenge may be the best entry in the entire franchise.

>>12361041
Aged like milk

tonight i had a dream where i was playing mgs1
after defeating metal gear, snake just slowly walked to liquid and shot him in the face
no punching or escape sections required

>>12361330
Holy shit that amount of detail is crazy for 5th gen. How do N64 kiddies even cope

>>12361358
based dream snake

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>>12361082
Konami literally remade Castlevania 1 as another 2D game and called it Castlevania IV

>>12361332
>everything after that leans more into stealth which mgs never does well
Not retro, but MGS V is arguably the best stealth game ever made.

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>>12361332
>stealth which mgs never does well

My 100% camo index begs to differ

>>12361041
Yes.

>>12361041
Yes, it's still my favorite in the series.
Unmatched visual aesthetics and atmosphere.
Areas are a blast to explore with some cool stuff to find.
Not exactly the most complex stealth game but has varies and addictive, fast-paced gameplay with plenty of cool tricks to pull of.

Memes about the story and cinematic parts aside it's just genuinely a fantastic game.

>>12361041
Yes, but I like Twin Snakes better due to the graphical update and improvements. I can go back and forward with both games however, because they both have their charm.

>>12362210
How many versions of Akuma Joe Dracula even are there? 6? 7?

>>12362351
Twin Snakes is absolute fucking trash. It ruins the cutscenes with stuff that's over the top even in the context of MGS and makes the game disgustingly easy by giving you access to first person aiming in environments and against enemies where it was never a consideration. The re-recorded voice acting is also massively inferior and everybody sounds bored.

It would have been roundly shit upon had it released on the PS2, but of course Tendies had to defend it to try and pretend that the GameCube had received some meaningful third party support for once.

Yes but "normal" difficulty seems to weed people out. My friend asked me to do the torture button mashing and most of the final boss fights.

>>12362464
There's nothing trash about Twin Snakes. It is one of the main reasons why I bought a Gamecube. Would skipped out on it, had it not been for Twin Snakes, REmake and Sonic Adventure 2 Battle.

>>12362464
>The re-recorded voice acting is also massively inferior and everybody sounds bored.
it cannot be overstated how ridiculously terrible some of the line reads in the twin snakes are, before I had actually sat down and played through a chunk of the game I had just assumed that the delivery would naturally be muted, phoned in, soulless...but acceptable, something that could be handwaved as not that bad, "the new gray fox is good, the translation is more accurate"
some of the stuff that got ok'd for the game is legitimately unprofessional, like fail the nintendo seal of quality bad, out takes that got mistakenly put into the game. arguing that the presentation is an acceptable substitute for the original is insane, I know that now.

>>12362491
that is pretty pathetic because mgs1's normal mode is too soft if anything. boss damage doesn't keep up with the life bar and the /5 ration count you have at the end of the game, it should have been balanced to be a little tighter.

>>12361041
Other than the two ridiculous backtracking parts, yes.

>Does the original Metal Gear Solid hold up still?

Nope. Never was good.
It's the original Sony movie game and is pure cancer.
2 minutes of boring gameplay followed by 2 minutes of boring custccene/dialogue rinse and repeat

>>12362497
you should check out tony hawks on n64 and mvc on ps1

>>12362504
"normal" is harder, original jp version only had one difficulty which became "easy"

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>>12361089
I first played Twin Snakes about 7-years ago after having played the original MGS all the way through at least 10 times in the late 90s/early 2000s; in no way is Twin Snakes better than the original. I would argue even the grungy PS1 graphics are superior in terms of aesthetics and atmosphere. And somehow they got everybody back a few years later to re-record all the voice acting and the performances were way worse. It was an amazing oppurtunity that was squandered, imagine a RE1 Remake style situation where the remake is so good that it basically makes the original game obsolete.

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>>12361041
It wasn't even good when it came out so no. Play Twin Snakes instead.

>>12361082
MGS1 is more of a soft reboot than a sequel, basically every time they reference the events of MG2 in the game what they're referencing is either completely made up or some kind of retcon
>how did h get away with it?
MG2 was 8 years old at that point and had never been released in the West, chances are that most people who played MGS1 on launch (even in Japan) had never played MG2.

>>12363293
dohohoho

>>12361082
>parroting a meme from early 00
If you weren't a zoomer faggot and played MG2, you would know this isn't true.
MGS actually reused some ideas from MG1 while expanding the gameplay of MG2.
And Kojima was aware that MG1 and 2 were obscure so he changed the game name from MG3 to Solid to make it accessible for new people, so it's not weird that he wanted to redo some ideas.

I ignored the series because sneaking up on a computer script always struck me as very stupid and boring
if I'm going to fight a computer script, I want to fight it, not watch it move around and then stab it in the back
at least give it some chance to fight back

Yeah. I like MGS2 and 3 more but MGS1 is still great. The stealth mechanics are simple but well though-out, everything is satisfying to do, and how short it actually is makes it easy to jump back in for another replay just to try out something different.

>>12361079
>The story is retarded
But it's the least retarded in the series.

>>12361079
I enjoyed it a lot back in the day but didn't touched again because of that. I remember the story being extremely dense and I don't have the same patience I had 20 years ago.

>>12364325
Autism

>>12364414
That just means the entire series has a retarded story.

It's funny how you end up spending more time in boss battles than stealthily avoiding guards. The game has very few actual stealth areas with patrolling guards.

>>12364269
I know everyone says its MG2, but to me its more of a MG1 remake
>start off by swimming
>fight a helicopter
>go to the basement and blow up walls
>fight a tank
>use guided missile to disable electronic floor
>got to rescue captives
>mine fields
>main villain is manipulating you on radio
I get that MGS1 has a lot of story references to things that happened in MG2, I just don't see how MGS1 isn't more of a remake of MG1.

>>12361041
no it's ass now play something good like clair obscur