>>3892985
Anyone who still cares about this series after Emil Pagufaggot taking a big fat shit on it is a masochist

>>3892985
>Fallout sisters, what do we think about the show being canon?
I don’t.

>>3892989
Fallout 5 and Elder Scrolls 6 should be a simultaneous release where if you pre order you get to get one good shot on Emil.

>>3892989
Fallout is such a boring fucking setting compared to TES man. I hate this shit. Especially since Bethesda is obsessed with keeping the setting the exact same no matter where it is. It can't leave united States, society can't rebuild or progress, the only lore they can expand on is pre war shit which by nature can't be in the games and is inherently fucking gay 50s filtered through the 90s filtered through the 2020s shit that makes no god damn sense and only gets worse the more blanks they fill in. Even the bad TES games can have stuff that's interesting(except ESO)
fallout is just a mess of junk and retcons and boring ideas, not allowed to go forward at all

>>3892985
I'll think about it when fallout 5 is out

>>3892985
Do people really have expectations of TES6 or Fallout 5 being good after Flopfield?

>>3892985
I have no thoughts about it. I am a little sad, but i'll probably be in my fourties by the time Fallout 5 releases, and that's me being optimistic. I doubt i will play any games in that age, especially the series in its current direction.
I already didn't finish Fallout 4 because of the retarded writing and boring settlement management that i don't want to do .I didn't even touch 76, and the first season of the show was so obviously written buy AI that i won't even touch the second.
Now that the west coast Fallouts are retconned almost completely, and new games aren't interesting to me even in the gameplay sense, i can safely say that i am done with the franchise, it is not for me anymore and i am not its target audience. It was not a happy divorse but i am over it.

>>3893163
/vrpg/ is getting divorces from video game franchises now

>>3893164
Well i got into actual marriage and i am not in Saudi Arabia so i had to quit one of them.

>>3892985
>>>/tv/

>>3893165
Congrats on the marriage, that's a good trade

>>3892985
>sisters
Stale joke.

>>3892989
Agreed. Fallout 4 should have been a wake-up call. I cannot fathom that people play Fallout 76 let alone watch a televison serial.

>>3892985
it'll be fun to rage about everything they fuck up when they remake 1 but beyond that I don't care

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>>3893151
Should have learned at 76

>>3892985
No thanks, Toddler.

Will anyone still care about Fallout in however many decades it'll take for Bethesda to develop another game *after* TES 6?

>>3892985

I wouldn´t worry, that´s still at least a decade into the future, but hey, maybe they´ll release Fallout 4 again while we wait.

>>3892985
Fallout is a garbage setting with terrible writing and the only reason people pretended to think it's good is because of the RPG mechanics. Ever since 4 scraped the RPG mechanics, all that was left is terrible writing in a joke of a setting with a hack as the lead.

>>3893458
Yes, people cared about baldurs gate 3 two decades years later.

>>3893545
BG3 was a “Baldurs Gate” game for people who didn’t like, or play, “Baldurs Gate”

>>3892985
>Fallout 5 will be existing
doubt.
The game's almost 10 years away at this point, provided that tes 6 will come out in 3 years and won't be so shit that it'll ruin the studio. It's their last chance.

>people still haven't realized anything post 2011 is pozzed culture war garbage

It's like people have no fucking pattern recognition. No matter. Say what you want about Fallout 4, but it was the last good Bethesda product before the great Ensloppening. Every TES and FO game from now on will be seeped with progressive Blackro- I mean Microsoft funded politics and subversion thematrics. It happened with Star Wars, Star Trek, Lord of the Rings, Warhammer, and whatever [thing] you used to enjoy, and it will happen to games too. The garbage Fallout show already proved that much.

Just live with the peace of knowing that you will always have your old games, and no matter how hard they pozz the new releases up, they can never take that away from you.

>>3893912
>Say what you want about Fallout 4, but it was the last good Bethesda product
Stopped reading here.

>>3893912
>and whatever [thing] you used to enjoy
I also enjoy other games than whatever is advertisedand I can say that your doomposting doesn't affect me

>>3893163
>the first season of the show was so obviously written buy AI that i won't even touch the second.

lmao you actually watched it

>>3893912
>It's like people have no fucking pattern recognition.
>Just live with the peace of knowing that you will always have your old games.
If you truly cared about subversive aspects, you alarms you be going off like crazy with Fallout 1.
No wonder you think the path forward is to just cry and stick to "old games" with "acceptable progressive slop"

I think fallout had a good run. It’s in the “capitalism feasting on rotten flesh” part of the cycle now. Which can last for decades. I don’t expect anything good to come out of Fallouts universe ever again if I’m honest.

>>3892985
Fallout 5 was going to be complete shit anyway just like Saarfield.

>>3892985
>Already talk about Fallout 5, but say nothing about TES6.
Seriously?

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>>3892985
>How does the fall of the NCR affect the series going forward
There is absolutely no hope for a Bethesda game after Fallout 4 of Starfield.

>>3893912
Leftists and DEI are still falling apart though, the pressure is off corps to release commieslop since tons of gov't funding for DEI hires got yanked by the Trump administration.
They may win back congress soon but they'll immediately remind everyone why they are hated.

On balance the mega popular games and movies have been politically neutral stuff, Minecraft, Super Mario, and they kept getting burned on woke flops enough by now. You can only throw money away so long when the gov't is no longer there to cover up your failures.

>Star Wars, Star Trek, Lord of the Rings, Warhammer
Yeah these are captured pop culture territory. The solution is don't interact with anything past 2005 in regards to them. I think even some of the newer Star Wars stuff may be throwing in the towel on DIE. Pendulums do swing back.

I see good titles here and there, AC6, Elden Ring, indie stuff like Tainted Grail, Grim Dawn, Last Epoch. If Bethesda wants to stick to corporate wokeslop, I have plenty of other things to play and life to live that doesn't involve leftists lecturing me through entertainment mediums.

my mom is mad that fallout season 2 isn't canonical to new vegas lore or some shit i'm like this chick is literally like 80 chill out ur prob gonna croak before fallout 5 drops

>>3896058
Todd's head is so far up his own ass bro, he needs a great humbling after crippling two potentially great franchises. He is the reason Emil was promoted and the reason Bethesda is so inept that they have 8000+ devs yet they cannot design a good game for shit even given 100 years of dev time and the billions of dollars they made from Skyrim seems to certainly not contribute at all to their product quality. We can conclude Bethesda's top heads are laundering money and laughing at the dumbasses who keep paying for their glue-huffing products. If anyone other than Jewcrosoft bought Bethesda they would have lined up Todd and his goons on the chopping block

>>3892985
>Fallout 5 will be
Seems unlikely at this point.

>>3896129
GOOD

>>3892985
At this point I don't care. Honestly even Fallout 1 had lore that was as put together as a wet napkin. Let alone any sequel you could nitpick. Really I just want a new franchise that could carry that torch that old Fallout had.

>>3892985
The show? What show?

>>3896777
>Fallout sucks
>Wasteland sucks
Its time for Mad Max games.
I wonder how many fallout fans you'd get if you somehow modded mad max 2015 to be first person

This IP is owned by Microsoft now. Its going to suck no matter what. No amount of complaining about it will change the fact that even if Microsoft cared to make a good game its going to bet the most low effort thing possible and outsourced to infinity to 'justify' printing millions to give to shareholders of Microsoft. Fallout 4 was likely the last entry in the series ever. Microsoft is physically incapable of making something that isn't like this.

>>3897726
Also there is probably some machine trying to outrage people to talk about fallout for free marketing.

>>3892985
it's not canon, has nothing to do with the games. a turd isn't canon because sellouts say it's canon

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It pretty much means that any writer can nuke a faction now to get the stakes higher for the current protagonist, as well as pretty much saying that the contributions of all your characters in any game don't matter as their heroic efforts to reshape the wasteland will be wiped out of the anals of history.
The nuking of Shady Sans just deleted one of the few monuments in existence of one of the protagonists, which is shit.
Going foward, they might as well just delete any mention of any character doing anything, like the Enclaves Oil Rig exploding because why not, the Wasteland survival guide having no author because fuckers scratched Moira's and Lone Wanderers name to claim they made it, the Minutemen breaking apparet again because the Sole Survivor dies of an infection or something and Preston despite having the quality of being general doesn't want to do it because PTSD.
Civilizations will rise and fall with no mention of our efforts, not for the sake of the settings evolution or for some message regarding humanities nature and its affinity with war, but for the creating to their own micro setting to settle stakes to show you how fucked things got after some time.
Having the NCR to crumble to civil war would have felt more natural than a shitty controlling husband wanting to nuke a city because his wife got to visit it, only for the country to crumble because one of its main cities is gone.
It just feels weird as fuck, man.

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Why do you fags invest so much mental energy in this shit. It was never your choice to make. Be glad you got tocmake personalized choices as part of a piece of media designed to entertain you. If yoy have any more investment beyond this, you have too much time on your hands. Go build your own fictional universe.

>>3897888
why are you bending over backwards defending a multibillion dollar company's shitty design choices?

>>3892985
Show? The only canon for Fallout is as follows
>Fallout 1
>Fallout 2
>Fallout Tactics
>Fallout Van Buren
>Fallout New Vegas

>>3892985
lol nobody cares todd your games are dogshit trash
the old ones are fun but are a technical mess

>>3892985
one day a more serious group of people are going to make their own sequel to NV and its going to be leagues above the frontier and London, its going to lead to a major legal dispute over what counts as distributing something for free, and fallout will be torn between the games and tv show. bezos will be pissed.

>>3897929
>Tactics
Fucking retarded zoomers

>>3898058
Tactics was better than NV.

>caring about fallout canon
I'll never understand. The world is so lazily put together who even cares. What matters is whatever the immediate story of the current playground you're in is. The fallout world has no past or future. It just wasn't built that way.
There's so many more important grievances to take with Bethesda fallout than "muh canon" or some irrelevant tv show.

>>3898058
I added it since Interplay intended it to bridge the gap between 2 and Van Buren. It's a pretty decent spin-off, unlike the other BOShit

>>3893090
>Fallout is such a boring fucking setting compared to TES man. I hate this shit. Especially since Bethesda is obsessed with keeping the setting the exact same no matter where it is.
So like TES?

>>3898189
No

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>>3892985
fuck Howard, his woke scum allies and the Talmud they all rode in on..
you will NEVER mine this IP into oblivion!

>>3892985
You saw fallout 4 so I don't know why you'd suddenly start giving a shit now.

>>3899966
I dropped fallout after NV sucked. Never bothered playing 4.

>>3896006
Nah, new Bethsoft games either have no full modding support or no substantial modding community. The loop is broken now.

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>>3892985
>didnt play FO76
>didnt play starfield
>wont play tes6
>wont play FO5
simple as

>>3892989
Consider the average viewer is a massive normalfag and thinks Fallout 4 has the best gameplay (because it plays like an FPS). They'd never be able to recognise a good game, or a good series.

>>3892985
>picrel
I know for a fact the next game is just going to be Emma Purnell and Walton Goggins Celebrity Cameo Simulator. Instead of a proper RPG it'll be a post-2020 AAA "RPG" with a linear story, dedicated to following around Lucy MacLean and The Ghoul and doing whatever wacky celebrity shenanigans they get up to.

>how does the fall of the ncr affect the series going forward
Fallout 10 will be set 1000 years after the Great War. All of society will be living in metal shacks made of cut up Chrysluses. The economy will be built on scavenging for Nuka-Cola bottles in the ruins of old houses. It will be voted GOTY by five separate publications.

I've never played Fallout 4 I've only played Fallout 1 Fallout 2 a dozen times each, Fallout Tactics, Fallout: Brotherhood of Steel but didn't finish, Fallout 3 and forced myself to finish, and Fallout: New Vegas like three and a half times.

The show is fucking amazing. Bunch of nutbag contrarians being ridiculous. I was the horny 14 year old the OG shit was made for and I ate it up, learned all the lore, became a Fallout internet nutbag in early forum and 4chan days, it formed the way I think, etc. I'm also a movie and TV nerd from renting blockbuster and pirating. Some brown poorfags who started with Fallout 3 and New Vegas want their personal endings to be canon. pfffft. they dont' even know what Fallout is about. Fallout show is so fucking good, I love them for it. My Purnell Frogfu will be modded into Fallout 5 and she'll suck my virtual cock.

>>3900628
3/10 bait, see me after class

>>3900534
So literally all of this board that only plays garbage? And hates anything that is axtually good?

>>3900628
you took the bait too far at the end and gave yourself away

>>3900744
>>3900908
it's not bait you dimwitted brownoids. lousy contrarian faggots can't differentiate bad from good and see all reasonable well-liking-of-things as bait.

>>3892985
Doesn't matter, FNV is the last Fallout game ever made.

>>3900966
Jeet behaviour to continue baiting once bait has been correctly identified.

>>3892985
Everything in Fallout 2 and after is not canon. Only the original Fallout is canon.

>>3902103
Many such cases

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>>3902127
retards
Fallout2 is a masterpiece and literally the main part of the lore

>>3903166
>he actually likes the talking animal bullshit
Grim

>>3893912
F04 is a bit of a train wreck with 10/10 world exploration. No quest variety or intersection. Sneak archer becomes rifleman build. Ect.

>>3892985
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>>3893545
Nobody cares about the Fallout setting, chud. That's why Bethesda bought the original IP instead of making their own setting and why Amazon licensed the IP from Bethesda rather than making their own setting.

>>3892985
Like Disney SW and 343 Halo, Todd and Emil's fallout are not "canon" or the concise accepted storyline because art and literature are up to the interpretation of the viewer/ reader.
They are not religions. They are not products. They are have no effect on the real world whatsoever besides the movie picture screen moving when you press the buttons. That's it.
SW legends is the real "canon". Bungie Halo is the real "canon". Fallout 1, 2, NV, even Tactics and BOS- AND. ALL. MODS. I. ADD. TO. THEM.- are the real "c a n o n" because I SAY they are because they're better stories.
Fallout 4, 76, the show, and if Bethesda isn't closed by 2030, 5 are all Todd and Emil's gaytheist gen-xer dysgenic slop fanfiction. When I do play 4, I have a shitillion mods installed that completely alter the entire game or just FROST or London. Everything resembling the base game is unplayable to me.

>>3892985
>what do we think about the show being canon?
What does it matter?
Fallout is dead as fuck.
There hasn't been a new Fallout game in almost 8 years.
The last main series game is going on 11 years ago.
The last Fallout game set on the west coast since 2010.

Fallout 5 isn't going to come out until when? 2033? 2035?
Microsoft could, whenever they want, get a new studio to do a new Fallout game. But they haven't and they probably won't.

So what does it mean this show is 'canon?'
When the next game comes out this show will be 10 years old and in the past. If the series is going back to the west coast, they're probably just going to ignore the show anyway.

bump

>>3892985
the tone and setting were already trashed even before bethesda got their hands on it and ruined it even more. the show messing the lore up is just raping a dead corpse at this point and there's no reason to believe bethesda would do any better on their own.

I am seeing a similarity between fallout and Warhammer 40k
People bitch about things not being true to source.
But how many 40k editions did it take for RogeTrader to be the wacky 1st edition?
Also while it's something new to 40k them developing the storyline forward instead of it being just "setting base" has turned off a lot of the grogs.
Fallout has always pushed the timeline further. But what really fallout gets set apart is its pulp classic oldies sci Fi style. Not nessicarily the storylines.
Case in point: how many more fallouts will we get before they get into the 60s or 70s bell bottoms or the 90s day glo grunge style.
But in the end the real thing is that these IPs aren't nessicarily creation of an artist but are rather corporate products that are more manufactured. Its pretty obvious game companies can do whatever the fuck they want with corpo ip to the delight or dismay of. It's " most hardcore fans".
Also how far can you keep the fallout series in the RPG genre? One mobile game cash out. All this faction wank they'd go into vst territory.

>>3909859
Fallout really needs its own MOBA or arena battler.

>>3892985
there's no fallout show

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>>3892985
>Fallout 5 will just be a linear action-RPG based around the BoS where you have to choose between a woman, a black guy or a ghoul
The more the things change, the more they stay the same.

>>3896097
>he needs a great humbling
Starfield being panned and forgotten must have been pretty humbling. They gotta know that they can't lazily coast by on brand recognition alone anymore.

>>3911449
They can still coast on being the only purveyor of their genre
No seriously what the fuck, we are only just now getting games even attempting similar goals.

>>3892985
Too many people attack the show for gas reasons like bullshit canon and lore nobody cares about and not because its actually a bad tv show.
God damn, it looks like a youtube video, its visually hideous, and none of the characters are likable. I don't even know what the plot is. Why did the set designers copy the shitty compromised Vegas from the fucking video game rather than actually interpreting the real Las Vegas and Fremont? It looks like an absurd cheap amusement park. I don't understand how anyone can take any of these aspects seriously enough to even begin to get into the weeds of canon. Who fucking cares about its loyalty to previous fallout media, whatever the hell that means, when as a solitary art piece its worthless on so many levels? Maybe it's because fallout fans tend to be on the spectrum more often than not, but I have observed them accept or gloss over something utterly low quality to complain about how something is discordant with lore.

It reminds me of some 80s straight to home video sci fi fantasy junk

>>3892985
I don't think about streamslop at all

>>3892985
Only retards actually like the show and Fallout 3 and 4 aren't good either, so I really couldn't care less. Dead franchise.

>>3911931
>Dead franchise.
It has been for a while, I just wish they had left the corpse alone.

>>3896097
Todd Awaζened,
The Ghoul (MacLahahahahaah) gave him ζmine and a ζ hole and he shall RISE RISE HOWARD RISE ζζζ

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>>3892985

Them tying the series with the new Fallout 5 already tells me the following:

1. A team of purple haired weirdos will be working on it, possibly the same retards behind Starfield.

2. It will be devoid of creativity and will be a boring as fuck rehash of Starfield's assets and possibly recycling of old assets from Fallout 4 with new textures slapped on top.

3. The main characters and story NPCs will have the signature wokeness slapped onto them, killing any post-apocalyptic vibe you might be expecting when interacting with them.

It'll be a clown show of a game but due to the fatigue from past titles, most people will just buy it hoping it'll be anything different and be disappointed again.

>>3911864
What games?

>>3892985
what he actually means is that it will take them 30 years to make it and by the time they do we will have already gone through nuclear apocalypse irl and therefore the events of the show will have happened or are happening

Why is unarmed in Fallout 4 so bad for no apparent reason

>>3915091
>>3915091
Lack of weapons and the ones that exist have almost no upgrades compared to other weapon types.

>>3915105
Even beyond that it seems like they went out of their way to make it bad
like it gets the worst sneak attack multiplier and ninja doesn't work with it
its damage upgrade skill comes at later levels than melee
it's basically incompatible with power armor

they had to actively make a decision for it to be shitty and I wonder why.

>>3893151
I think the groundwork for Fallout gives it a far better foundation than Starfield could ever hope for. Hooking an audience is always the hardest part, most people quit a game within the first 15 minutes.

Starfield is a massive game in huge universe that absolutely nobody cares about. It's too clunky and unintuitive to learn anything about the lore or factions, so nobody cares and it has no staying power.

Fallout on the otherhand, has had enough time to create a compelling world. Has every game taken full advantage of that fact? No, but those that have, benefit from that foundation.

Will the next Fallout have revolutionary graphics and gameplay? Probably not, but honestly, what I want out of it, is an interesting world to explore with decent combat, and a satisfying gameplay loop. I think they can accomplish that, but it's certainly not a guarentee

>>3915105
>>3915091
both bethesda fallouts really skimped out of unarmed weapons.
No idea why. Especially after both 2 and NV have much more robust systems and larger arsenals.

>>3892989
>Emil Pagufaggot
He's mostly a scapegoat for Todd

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>>3892985
>Think the NCR is gone
>a show written by California writers
>They won't make them the good guys that come back during season 2 finale

Fallout TV show (both seasons) > FO1 > FO2 > FO:NV > FO Tactics > FO4 > FO3 > FO76 > That FO spinoff trash everyone has thankfully forgotten about > the empty FO spinoff mobile game > anons FO head canon.
That's the official list. Everything was just a lead up to a GOAT tv show, really. The first two games being like the books that set the stage for the show.

>>3897854
It doesn't really matter, because Bethesda Fallout just doesn't have civilization. It's a perpetual ruin, with shantytowns made of scavenged 200-year-old sheet metal. They could never have a faction like the NCR, or even Shady Sands, actually building new things from scratch.

>>3903166
According to an obscure throwaway line in FO2, supermutants can actually breed. They're sterile when they're first made, but it's temporary. There was nothing wrong with Master's plan.

It is absolutely wild reading this thread after the epstein/moot pol truth nuke dropped