>>3910314
Possibly the dumbest thread on the board. Please please please delete it at your earliest convenience

Obvious bait that will nonetheless linger for months on this dead and rotting board.

>>3910325
>>3910339
>Can't counter argument

>>3910527
Retardation doesn't warrant counter-argumentation. It warrants being pointed and laughed at.

>>3910314
>The Powder Gangers rule the entire region
Unusual bait.

>>3910605
would be a fun mod though

>>3910605
The powder gang is part of the anti NCR, even though they're not affiliated with the Legion

>>3910339
>dead and rotting board

Fuck sake, I only just started browsing it after getting sick of every other corner of this website over the last 15 years. I swear this always happens, I find a new board, get interested, and everyone says its glory days are over - move on

Anyway I thought this board was only like a year old

>>3910674
He's probably just used to more fast paced boards like tv and v. Vrpg is just a slow board

>>3910674
Nearly 4 at this point
>>3910677
Dozens of threads are kept alive by necroposting, not actual activity

>>3910314
>you can later betray them in both games
You're onto something

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>>3910541
Yeah but you look more like the fool to me, cause OP looks correct. Bethseda games ARE shit.

>there are two factions
>instead of having to decide which one is the lesser evil, you get to decide which is the greatest good
Now that would be kino

enclave fuck u bvittch - FRANK HORRIBLE

>>3910674
posters whining about how the boards have gotten worse is an established part of board culture since day one, you will live to see people talking about 2020's as the "better days"
the only difference here is the very specific way a handful of shitposters are permanently mindbroken; someone disliked the game that is their autistic obsession and thus they have since dedicated themselves to shitposting in every thread not about the three games they like, when you know this they are very easy to spot because of their permanegativity
if you want good content on your board how about contributing to it too

Skyrim does fuckall to convince you to join the Empire considering the fucks wanted to execute you for being in the wrong place at the wrong time and write you off as a Stormcloak Supporter

>>3916328
>Skyrim does fuckall to convince you to join the Empire
Umm but the Stormcloaks are heckin’ racist Nazis

>>3916328
Also throughout the first dungeon and during several other ocassions you will stumble upon empire or empire sanctioned torture dungeons. You can even wittness a live torture going on and especially during the empire introduction you will meet the imperial torturer who happily tells you that the young guy lying dead in a cage across the room screamed for weeks after they snatched him for no reason and brought him there simply because the torture wanted someone to play with.
So you are given the choice to side with moustache twirling sadists who randomly abduct people from the streets to murder them in week long torture sessions and wanted to execute you for being near a criminal or the guys whose greatest fault it is not letting literal demon worshoppers with british accents, said sadist villains or their friends take over their native homeland and make the rules there for no apparent reason.c

>>3916330
considering what the Thamlor are doing, the Stormcloaks are 1000% justified

>>3916334
>considering what the Thamlor are doing, the Stormcloaks are 1000% justified
But they’re MEAN! They’re BIGOTS! That’s the worst thing in the world that anyone can ever do

>>3916337
being a bigot towards Elf Nazis makes you a good guy

>>3916338
>Elf Nazis
You’ve yourself internalized the elven propaganda, such that you see, in their actions, the lies they projected onto their enemies. Many such cases.

>>3916340
>propaganda

the crimes they commit is now "propaganda"? Lay off the /pol/ brainrot

>>3916343
Try to read more slowly, and think about what the words mean.

>>3916346
why bother when you are going to avoid the argument

>>3910314
Except every time I tried playing Skyrim I never even knew I had a choice at the beginning or realized that there were the two big factions.

>>3910527
>DEBATE ME BRO!

>Stormcloak Downsides
They're RACIST (see: like everyone else in TES) against Elves. They aren't any more racist than the likes of the Dunmer or the Argonians. Non-nords hold many high profile and high influence positions in the city.

There's literally just a refugee slum (because of a massive sudden influx of refugees) and Argonians don't come into the city, because fucking obviously these two races that hate each other would tear one another apart.
>Empire Downsides
Tried to kill you for no reason, not even ruled by Septims anymore, endless examples of the Empire declining/falling then being reborn throughout history but they demand you defend it to the death.

Stormcloak vs Empire is a meme argument. Correct answer is:
>dragonborn nord kills alduin
>and the thalmor
>and the empire
>skyrim becomes the launchpad for mankind's next age

>>3916376
>listing something that isn't a downside as a downside for the Stormcloaks

>>3916378
That's my point, the worst anyone can really say about the Stormcloaks 99% of the time is
>they're RAYCIST

The other thing they roll out is
>muh thalmor asset
because of a page that says "Skyrim being in a civil war works for us. We can't contact Ulfric. Probably bad. As long as he doesn't win, all good"

and as if that somehow makes him more of a liability than the Empire which is openly and actively implementing Thalmor policies. Anyone who thinks there is even an "Empire vs Stormcloak debate" has failed a litmus test that decides who is or isn't a drooling retard

>>3916376
An actual, non-meme in-lore interpretation of those arguments:
>They're RACIST
As you yourself point out they are not racist enough.

>Tried to kill you for no reason
Based.
>not even ruled by Septims
Based.
>endless examples of the Empire declining/falling then being reborn throughout history
Based.

>they demand you defend it to the death.
You don't get it.
>dragonborn nord kills alduin
You don't get it.
>and the thalmor
Correct.
>and the empire
Correct.
>skyrim becomes the launchpad for mankind's next age
You do realize that it actually means "and Skyrim", right?

You can't see the Path.

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>>3916328
Sounds like a lorelet issue to me.

every bethesda game would be better if the main quest just didnt exist

>>3916369
>literally begin the game next to the leader of one big faction, who is facing execution by the other big faction
You might be retarded.

>>3920800
he means when you escape helgen there is a choice to escape with an Imperial or a Stormcloak.

Most people didn't realize there was a choice o a scene where the two people would argue with each other

>>3919678
The main quest is there to give you some sense of direction and progress should you need it. You can ignore it for endless hours.

And since I don't feel like making a new thread, I just started playing NV for the first time ever (kinda late to the party, am I?). Still too early to passjudgement on the game. So far I've been skulking around Goodsprings.
The combat is a bit more janky than I'd like to and damage seems pretty inconsistent. So far loving the western-ish vibes of the setting. Mostly trying to build a gunslinger type character with focus on guns (obviously), repair and lockpicking. Pretty basic, I guess. Got the wacky wasteland perk for the extra content. Playing the ultimate edition which gives you a ton of extra gear at the beginning of the game for no reason.

>>3922119
>Playing the ultimate edition which gives you a ton of extra gear at the beginning of the game for no reason.
Sawyer loves making a really balanced game.

>>3922119
Go for New Vegas to kill Benny and get his gun. There's also a sheriff's gear in the 2nd town near Goodsprings that'd fit a gunslinger build. For companions I'd pick the robotic dog or the flying robot

>>3922122
I guess that's nice for veteran players who want to seep things up a bit on their nth replay, but do they really need it? Well, at least I didn't have to rely on that shitty bolt-action rifle Sandy gave me.

>>3922149
Jotted down, thanks.

>>3922185
You really should drop all the gear the game gave you. Should have just disabled all dlc to be honest

>>3922201
>Should have just disabled all dlc to be honest
It’s been really sad to watch games over the last 30 years to go from awesome expansion packs you really wanted to get, to being nickel and dimed for DLC and going along with it reluctantly, to having DLC bloatmaxxing actively making games worse, and disabling them / rolling back to old patches making the games overall better.