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Never pay more than ZERO DOLLARS for RPG Maker sludge.

>>3916908
Meh, while I do think it's miles above many RPG Maker games but I don't really have the same adoration that OP seem to have towards it.
IMO Fear and Hunger (2 especially) is better, in terms of gameplay and novel aspects. Dunno but Look Outside doesn't feel as immersive, although the idea was definitely cool and unique.
>>3916913
Pirated it, still think it's a good game. Better than Octoslop, Sea of Slop, Slop Project.

>>3916932
>Better than Octoslop, Sea of Slop, Slop Project.
Not much of a challenge.

>>3916908
surprised that Frankie's still working on bug fixes and smaller content updates for the game. I figured that he'd shift development back to Malison after 2.0 since LO has overwhelmingly succeeded at bankrolling him for the foreseeable future

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>making xin anon harder for no reason
>something no one wanted by complaining he was too easy
I hate this ugly bastard

>>3917419
I wanted it, the fight is pathetically easy.

>>3916913
It’s still an engine. Yeah there is a lot of slop coming out of it but so is out of UE5. One of my friends is making a game in rpg maker atm and he’s been working over it for a year. I think it really depends on a game. If the dev wasnt bothered enough to make new sprites and textures definitely dont give them money

>>3917430
That's the problem. You're too easily impressed by flashy visuals and art shit that has absolutely nothing to do with the game itself. You assign value to something that doesn't serve the gameplay in any way, shape, or form.
The game is bone stock RPG Make sludge from top to bottom mechanically and that, my friend, makes it worth $0. Zero dollars. If the developer can't be bothered to make something mechanically interesting, then they don't deserve the dirt upon which they stand.

>>3917440
You are evaluating games by a single metric. This fine for aggressive internet tribalistic discussions, but does not reflect the reality of multiple important metrics.

I think it'd be cool if XIN-AMON assimilated dead party members or had new phases but that doesn't seem to be the case.

Also, Dumpstercats on Twitch occasionally streams himself working on Malison sprites if anyone's interested.

https://www.twitch.tv/frankiepixelshow
Balancing/fixing stream

>>3917440
>You're too easily impressed by flashy visuals and art shit that has absolutely nothing to do with the game itself
So like Sea of Slop & Octoslop.
Which aren't even made in RPGM.
Your standard of a "good game" is out of this world, solipsist.

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>yet another 5/10 rpg maker porn game masquerading as a 10/10

>>3918267
Are you retarded?

The game would be good if they didn't ruin the tone with their friendly monsters.

>>3918276
all wise artists now include self insert fodder for retards to latch onto
>omg I'd be like a scary calculator with tentacles cuz I love savings

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>wasp guy will drop a grotesque honeycomb upon death (or multiple if you let him get worse) in the update
Surely we can also harvest the hives in his room.

>>3918272
No, but you pretty much have to be to think that Shill Outside is anything more than a 5/10 game dressed up to make you PERSONALLY FEEL LIKE it's more than that.
Stop paying retards for shitty art and mediocre storytelling. Start glorifying actual, compelling gameplay. Oh... wait, that's like telling you to suddenly have a brain, or a soul, for that matter.

It's a project that didn't even mean anything to Frankie before it got really big. I don't know why retards act like it was anything but a fluke. Malison is gonna be an actual game.
Love both tho

>>3916908
I'm already dealing with time management and the approching end of my time in rl, I don't want to deal with it in my rpgs.

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>there is an unused sprite of pierre smirking and lifting his skirt just before he unravels himself

>>3916908

>2025
>best movie is Sinners (Black horror)
>best game is Look Outside (Black horror)
Why are Black people cookin so good?

>>3918366
>I don't know why retards act like it was anything but a fluke.
You know how popular Garfield Gameboy'd is, don't kid yourself.

>>3918366
The furnace feels like it wouldn't be out of place as a Malison boss

>>3918362
I'm aware.
Frankly if there are fan games I'm going to be more interested in fan games that try different genres of gameplay rather than more rpgmaker

>>3918362
>Stop paying retards for shitty art and mediocre storytelling. Start glorifying actual, compelling gameplay. Oh... wait, that's like telling you to suddenly have a brain, or a soul, for that matter.
You're just a contrarian troll who hated anything indie.
I bet you don't have any example of a game that you considered having "actual compelling gameplay" in the first place, why would anyone listen to you then?

>>3918267
this isn't a Black Souls thread

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how did this happen wtf

>>3919252
>Aster is enamored by Hellen's gardening talk

>>3919257
it felt fucked up she kept rebuffing the sam pawn too
also his mom is somehow 36 and hes 32.

I figured out a strat for Rat Child. If you get Hellen early (or know you are gonna get Hellen as early as Day 2/3 if you have the door encounter mods) consider sacrificing an arm for Rat Child - if you can roll to get the meal interaction for Prowl/Pounce it costs a single stamina and if you setup the parties Agilities correctly you can make sure Hellen always has a full powered Stab (with a second weaker Stab too potentially if she has Coat of Arms) on turn 1 at the end of the turn. This gives him cheap positive utility/damage outside of shooting the pistol until he gets to level 12 which from then on he can Prowl/Pounce with Coat of Arms to do even more damage than Hellen's Stalk/Stab Coat of Arms combo since he has a 3x modifier over Hellen's 2x modifier and can use even Crush weapons with his version of the move. He also has slightly higher base attack than Hellen but you won't notice that until he gets to 12 since all his melee damage is halved until then.

>>3916908
>just ate a pork center loin steak with my mac and cheese
>shared it with (0) people
>despite everything, feeling pretty good about life right now

Really not a fan of how he said Parze is gender neutral and can be anything you want to be. I understand they're going to be an avatar but it kinda kills some enjoyment for me of the character, or the idea of them.
Something simple like that kinda kills the game for me, it's dumb and I don't even mind the idea of trans things but it just rubs me the wrong way.
He seems very confused on what to do with Malison despite it being a game so long in the making.

>>3919898
He says the same about Sam who is painfully, obviously male. Contrary to the assumptions in his Twitch chat, it has less to do with contemporary gender politics and more with putting yourself in the character's shoes. As for the classes in Malison, they're technically separate lives you're assuming control of (outside of the hard mode one, which is just Parze but disheveled).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQinQYLYHC4
I kinda like this better than shell shock

>>3917465
xin-amon should be a hopeless boss battle
that is like an endless spawning guinea pig survival mode until you run out of hp and items after you kill the eyes/claws/maws.
Yeah survival mode but with endless guinea pigs

>>3917465
I think it would have been interesting if certain flags caused Sam-like shades to manifest as party members like Aster witnessing the end of Wizard's Hell twice or scaring the Feral God or the First Witness finding out every single one of its organs are dead or simply inflicting Pain on the Visitor

>>3919994
>The shades becoming game characters
sorta having more lens cracking on that whole 'true ending' thing
more lens cracks there would be neat in general
like I was surprised it didn't happen. Like if we shifted perspective and we see everyone else dealing with a cursed world spanning "sam" that refers to itself as chase dressing its countless appendages as various characters/NPCs/Enemies from Massacre Princess like endless puppets and playing out the game with the appendages. A Sam with a delusion that 'stabilized' in that state between sanity and insanity some cursed seem to exist in (like the rat king).

>>3920003
(Or at least I find that headcanon idea more believable than it being a flatout overwrite)

>>3920003
Could have easily shown one as a cursed hunter during the epilogue

>>3916932
This. Fear & Hunger's gameplay is way more fun and addictive. It has no cheevos and yet I "100%-ed" both games, including pretend special endings like "Save everyone except yourself" with multiple characters, all characters' unique endings, etc. Look Outside has nice music and visuals, but it's ultra generic gameplay wise.

If you are using Leigh/Joel/Xaria (& Rat Child with Predator Snarl could potentially be used too but he is better off with skills over basic attacks. Morton too potentially with Severed Hand/Rotten Flesh/Warm Eyeball/Fidget Cube) - go with the Papier-Maché Crown/Royal Decree - aka have Roaches form a monarchy. Otherwise Schism for permanent coat of arms or Republic for Appoint Governor & to give Roaches his near guaranteed immortality back. Roaches likes Royal Decree too since it can help him whip everyone multiple times to spread 2-3 roaches/poison/bleeding to all enemies.

Ernest has higher utility potentially with Joel/Leigh/Xaria/Morton/Rat Child/Roaches since he can use Double Time to give out extra attacks but Sam can also do that with Royal Decree. Even then Aster's Strategic Huddle prob immediately makes Aster better than Ernest for buffing on recruitment even with those teams since it's incredibly cheap (6 STM vs 20 STM), lasts multiple battles, and adds an extra 15% to crit to all attacks including many abilities you wouldn't think it would impact like Audrey's Refreshments. Ernest has a better turn to turn DPS cause of Squeakems/Feedback spam + better status effect prevention for the entire party with Song of Willpower but I think Strategic Huddle alone might be so versatile and strong that it makes Aster immediately a direct upgrade. And that's before we talk about Fire Safety Protocol's utility vs Furnace and a few others + Um Actually curing all status effects too - I do think Song of Willpower is likely better but I could see the argument for Aster just immediately replacing Ernest later on in a run. Strategic Huddle > Song of Strength though which is gonna be what Ernest tries to spam to keep up with Strategic Huddle at low cost. 20% extra damage is nice but 15% extra crit can do some absurd things when you stack crit.

>fine, interesting game, worth at least one playthrough for anyone that enjoys 4niar
>absolute batshit insane 30+ y/o manchildren fanbase that post images of their wii games and make communist ideology and being a transexual their entire personality

im tired hirohito.

>>3920191
It's fucked cause they can make a solid game but then go full tranny and the community just has zero awareness of how they drag it down

>>3920191
>>3920197
I don't get it

>>3920020
Maybe
I think I may just find the thought of the survivors having to deal with and navigate the logic of a Chase fractal with "puppet" appendages capped with Massacre Princess characters amusing. And not totally impossible to deal with as survivors who played massacre princess would have more idea of what to do and all that.

>>3920280
Delegating fractal appendages to have the identities of game characters/NPCs also probably helps a bit with retaining sanity even if it means they'd not be nearly as helpful as denial ending sam.

>>3918276
The game would be good if there were only friendly monsters and you were a total psychopath

>>3918276
The game would be good if I could fuck any monster I wanted.

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>>3920286
>Survivors jarred and baffled about why the world spanning god the visitor left behind is so convinced it is a JRPG world
>The guy who knows why

>>3920317
Enjoy your dick worms

>>3920319
im a bug chaser, of course I will

>>3920322
Your dick was always worms

The tooth family was never cursed, they're just British

>>3920355
So Tooth Hell is just a portal to Britain?

>>3920003
I meant more as final bosses shift from fight to flight that makes their situation even worse by having their fears manifest as even more shade Sams showing up out of thin air as shades tend to do (or the MP party members now that you mention it)
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Patch with Jeanne using a motorcycle when

I think it would have been funny if moving the plant to the light revealed it actually did have feelings for Sam

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>hello, based department ?

>>3921452
>Dan and Xaria are the rich kids of the game

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>>3921454
Living in Montreal already means you're decently well off, more so if you can afford to go to a fucking art school.
Why Dan tho ? Guy lives like a hobo, unless that's a monty typo lol

>>3921455
He has a smartphone as well, and the description for the Neoduo says that only rich kids had one.

>>3921455
He's a livestreamer, what else is he going to use?

>>3921458
>>3921457
TRUE, I forgot about that, and the fact he's not just using a camcorder/gopro. It only makes sense he's using a real smartphone. I assumed he bought his NeoDuo with his money from his channel. Since they live in a fucking dump with only trash food, dirty house, and in the dogshit apartments where some rooms dont even have a bathroom.

Also, E you fucker. I never heard anyone outside of here ever say 'based department' would his chat even get that joke. I know your ass browses here

Lol he's already considering another update.

>>3921465
More cursed mode shit or something more?

>>3921486
Polishing sprites and adding emotive portraits to more party members

>unique battle mechanic that makes the most of RPGM jank
>it's being wasted on juicebox giving birth and doing wrestling moves rather than lyle using the enemies in his soul photos as summons (which he was originally going to do)

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>>3921533
I wish he wasn't basically a solo dev and he could just port it to fucking gamemaker like Lisa and actually do interesting shit with it since he clearly wants to work on it more than Malison.

>>3921541
I don't care what he works on, I'm sure it'll be good either way

>>3921544
My point is that if he's going to continue working on LO as he clearly enjoys it, he should port it to a real engine where he could actually experiment and do more interesting stuff in to test FOR Malison.

It's doing the game, and his own creativity a disservice by having it be stuck in RPGM

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It's not an engine issue. It's a developer skill issue. The trouble is, because he lucked into a fanbase of Neanderthals who will pay up $10 for the privilege of playing sludge that is worse than countless free RPGM games (made by developers with actual skill) he has zero incentive to improve - he KNOWS you will tolerate the sludge. He KNOWS you're a bunch of retarded hogs who will line up in front of the trough any time he updates a single pixel in his game so you can spend 10,000 posts across 20 general threads analyzing that single pixel.
Congratulations on being just another shitty version of the Undertale/Deltarune fanbase.

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Where's Nanashi when you need him

>>3921554
Getting raped by a vampire I assume

>>3921557
Dlc slop, not canon

>>3921554
>>3921557
>>3921558
I don't understand.

>>3921541
I wonder how gameplay could be in a look outside not constrained by RPGM
Maybe it'd not be possible to pull of the amount of stuff look outside has I guess, where it feels like half the game is 'oh what weird shit will be in the next apartment we check out' in how it plays out.

>>3921593
Like hundreds of enemy types, how would you combat system that for some other gameplay?

>Flawed ritual variant where someone may 'substitute' for a failed astronomer that has no idea what the visitor looks like but just acts like they know and is totally out of their depth (vincent I guess is this?)
>ritual variant w/ corrupted or doppleganger or worm astronomer (disrupted ritual)

>>3921564
SMT references. SMT4: Apocalypse DLC, if I remember correctly.

>>3921624
Eugene, Lyle or Jeanne I think would be likely substitutes going by "proximity to aster" logic, unsure if being already cursed disqualifies when Jasper was cursed. And being cursed yet sane still causes mutations from the gaze?
Eugene already has worm subplot stuff and comes off as someone who would be very fuck that about anything outside related.
Jeanne is mixed case as on one hand, very good cause to not want to go outside. On the other, confidence after laundry and maybe boredom/curiosity after a few days. And yeah let's not find out what a direct gaze from the visitor would do to a hydra.
Lyle is probably the most likely one of the three to agree to substituting due to knowing a bit of it and sam's involvement with the astronomers to be honest.
But man losing 2 party members if you also recruited aster sounds pretty bad.

>>3921628
Exposing Jeanne to the outside probably would be some floor 4 related shenanigan due to the floor based mutation mechanic she has.

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>>3921564
Anon posted YHVH specifically from smt4a. Nanashi is the godslayer who killed YHVH since he's a piece of shit. Hellen, since she wanted to kill the visitor, basically a god
Mephisto, from the dlc mindrapes him into hallucinating a fun beach scene.
Mephisto is not actually a vampire, but looks like one.

Tldr. Smt4a is good, play it

>>3921465
pretty sure hes not adding (much) more content, from what i read he's got the game mostly wrapped up as a finished project now, and to be honest i think thats fine, game is okay

>>3921717
Look Outside evidently wasn't meant to be super big
Malison being the main project makes sense the more I think about it, as it explains why you see fantasy monsters that wouldn't be out of place in Malison (the furnace, the rat king and such).

>>3921879
Furnace rematch in Malison maybe
Im sure they have furnaces in the cursed city

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Game isn't finished until the dick monster is added to Lyle's bathtub.

>>3921553
>countless free RPGM games (made by developers with actual skill)
like what

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>>3922060
Enchant farm bro and Ruina of course :^)

>>3916908
nothing rpg about this game though

>>3922078
What about Massacre Princess, the best RPG of all time?

>>3922236
Fractal Chase is the most annoying world fractal Sam. Yeah he poked the visitor’s eye and scared the visitor off, but the world is now filled with those damn puppets of stuff from that game. Could be worse as the delusion constrains his logic so if a monster branch attacks as a ”random encounter” you just need to hit it enough to make it fuck off after it regurgitates coins. Chase himself is a branch and you cannot convince him that he is doing it as he doesn’t view himself as one entity to begin with.

>>3922244
(Sorta ironic to make the “true ending” Sam fractal the “neutral” Sam fractal I know)

>>3922244
They're about as connected to Rush as Drowning is connected to Lethargy

>>3922252
True.
And the person who knows how to exploit / break the mechanics of massacre princess would be basically the Morton for anyone dealing with this mess.

>>3922274
Though I'm pretty sure someone has done some RPG thing out there where the premise of the game or at least one of the areas is that there is a massive eldritch monster and all the characters/enemies you encounter are all tendrils of it with specialized personalities that are fragments of the mind at the core of it all. And I don't mean like puppets on strings or separate bodies; you can very obviously see they're tendrils of some much more massive organism. If a game like that exists I'd be interested in it.