>>3918301
Some of those games have MSU-1 BGM hacks that elevate the experience for me.
https://www.zeldix.net/
Also, check romhacking.net for QoL patches.

>>3918310
Using mods invalidates opinions

>>3918314
Nah mods make everything better

>>3918310
I've never heard a single MSU-1 hack that doesn't sound like garbage. The original SNES samples pretty much always have better composition because they were made by people who actually knew what they were doing.

>>3918326
By virtue MSU-1 already sounds better because it's CD quality audio. You just have dusty ears stuffed with nostalgia.

>>3918315
Yes that's my point. Someone emulating with emulation features and using hacks can have a wildly different experience.
I'm not opposed to improving games with these, mind you.

>>3918330
Here's the kicker, nobody cares unless you bring something different to the table. There have been thousands of "tier lists" made and people already figured out the pattern of placements. Mods forces people to reevaluate the games for better or worse.

>>3918329
>By virtue MSU-1 already sounds better because it's CD quality audio
lol no. It sounds "clearer", but that doesn't equate to "better". The fact that you can't differentiate those two concepts already shows that you're a tasteless, disingenuous dolt and your opinions should not be taken seriously.

>>3918335
>Already going to ad-homs
There is no merit to be had here nor in your post. I knew what you meant originally but your matter of "taste" isn't objective either. MSU-1's don't invalidate the original score but instead compliment it and breathe new life into it giving a different experience. Being a Luddite doesn't make you right nor superior in any regard whatsoever.

>>3918301
>Chrono Reddit
>S tier
if S stands for Shit then sure

>>3918468
You didn't have to bump your own thread with terrible bait.

>>3918301
I used to rank Terranigma over Soul Blazer and Illusion of Gaia, but I don't know anymore, they've comparatively grown on me.
Played Secret of Evermore for the first time a few years ago and it was surprisingly bad, genuinely an overrated game overhyped by few dedicated fans.

>>3918470
>t. Chrono drone
your shitty Final Faggotry x Dragon Nuts slop sucks ass

>3918473
Bait harder opsamefag

>>3918337
>I knew what you meant originally
As an observing bystander, your replies did not reflect comprehension of his original point.
Also, you started the ad homs: >>3918329.
The shit you got was fully deserved.

>>3918477
lol this level of mental gymnastics is something else lmao even
have a good day anon
rofl also

>>3918301
doubt it

>>3918301
Surprised you'd put Glory of Heracles 3 and 4 in high tier.
3 has got some good intrigue and twists in the story, but systems wise feels archaic and more like a NES RPG than a SNES one.
4 fixes up the visuals and mechanics, but since they blew their writing load with 3 the plot feels stale comparatively. Worse execution of several similar story beats.
They really would have been better off if they could have made one game with the combine strengths of the two instead of two games with clear flaws.

Also surprised you put Far East of Eden Zero and Monstania that low. I get it with Star Ocean 1 though

Anyway, I'm noticing the absence of Lufia 2. You should get on that.

>>3918483
>more like a NES RPG than a SNES one.

Well that must be why I love them. Also I think greek mythology lends itself really well to JRPGs

>Far East of Eden Zero
I found it to be an absolute bore from start to finish. Combat was especially braindead and everything felt bland and not even the technically good graphics entertained me.
Monstania could have been cool but the game is basically over before it starts, they had an interesting combat system but in the end the fights feel basic for the most part, a real wasted opportunity.

>Lufia series
Yeah I've considered it, it's on my list

>>3918301
not bad but imo Illusion of Gaia should be much higher, its themes and narrative were way ahead of the rest and it looks amazing. It doesn't have any weak points + has a great strong point, it being right next to Secret of Evermore rubs me the wrong way.

>>3918491
>>3918483
To be fair my playthrough of Evermore was like 18 years ago and I only have vague memories of it, but I remember enjoying the dungeons and the dog

>>3918486
>Lufia *series*
Lufia 1 about to become your new lowest ranked game
In all fairness it will probably end up next to BoF1.
I feel like the kinds of bullshit that gets in the way of progressing the plot is similar in both games.

Secret of Mana is such a weird game. It's ranked pretty accurately in the list. It's like the game is both genius, with a killer OST, the idea of 3 player simultaneously real-time flowing RPG (too many mistake the game as a full action RPG that should behave closer to Zelda, but that's not really what it is, it's just a seamless RPG that uses a constant ATB meter) is amazing especially if you compare what other games were like at the time, but also it's garbage that stinks and you can smell that stink if you just sit and play it today.

I think I could fix SoM if I just did the following
>slightly slowed down character movement
>made the 100% meter more prominent to give players a better impression to wait their turn
>removed one of the two ring menu buttons and assigned it as a spell-cast button that activated spells in real-time without any pausing
>gave characters a 3 attack / 3 spell list that they pick from on the fly by holding either L, R, or no additional button while pressing the attack/spellcast buttons. the attacks could be with different weapons, too
>made the 100% meter recharge variable based on the attack used
>fixed the AI for when you can't co-op

>>3918301
nice list, do you only play games buzzfeed says is great?
>>chrono trigger at the top
lol,lmao, makes sense that you think so when you only play games others say were good

>>3918691
I've never even seen anyone talk about Shin Momoden except myself

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>>3918301
When?

>>3918904
I played it but I don't consider it a full fledged RPG like the others so I didn't include it. It's simple but fun.

>>3918527
It truly is the greatest rpg that actually also sucks.

>>3918301
>Terranigma
There's an name I haven't heard in a while. That one seriously made me cry.
The love, the betrayal, the sheer scale of it all. Fuck, what a good game. My favorite part was either
>Gobi desert
>Medieval Europe and light side you know who showing up
Devs making their own studio a location in game was cool too

>>3918332
>Here's the kicker, nobody cares
Yeah and people can also not care about your opinion.
>>3918468
If you are a grown adult JRPG fan you should be able to point out the shortcomings of Chrono Trigger easily, not retort unnecessary toddler insults. You are just going to make those CT fanboys even more louder with their uninformed fanboyism

>>3919249
>grown adult JRPG fan

>>3919250
?

Why Secret of Mana on high tier while Seiken Densetsu 3 on mid? Also is og Metal Max 2 worth playing over the DS remake

>>3919269
SD3 just made combat a lot worse, and while graphics and musics are technically great they don't have the soul of SoM. I thought the story was kind of a mess too, goes in every direction but underdevelops everything unless you replay the game with various characters (from what I understand).

>is og Metal Max 2 worth playing over the DS remake
The remake feels like it's designed for people who already know the original. At least in terms of story, everything that made the original is just there like it's expected to be there but instead the remake focuses on all the new unrelated side stories instead. Hell, you're not even obligated to use the 3 original cast members.
In terms of balancing and gameplay mechanics the original is somewhat in between the first game and Returns, while the remake is "3 but with some QoLs"
In terms of atmosphere, the remakes feels very wacky, while the original has a unique vibe that I'd qualify as being in between post apocalyptic despair and comfyness. It's quite a unique vibe that drew me in, it's like imagine you're 50-100 years after the events of Mad Max Beyond Thunderdome and people have started to settle back in the world and live their lives. The remake doesn't give off the same vibes at all imo
On my first play I wasn't actually that impressed but then I couldn't stop thinking about the game and I had to replay it (multiple times) and that's how I knew I loved it

>>3918301
try out shadowrun. i think the genesis version is supposed to be better, but i really loved how unique the snes version was

>>3918301
my brother in christ, you need to play Lufia 2!

GO PLAY LUFIA 2 NOW

Lufia 2 is very mid, chill out dudes

>>3920378
>>3919480
>>3918483
Okay, fine. Does feeding monsters the equipment they want do anything other than grow faster?

>>3920444
You don't like snes jrpgs then

>>3920467
No, it just gives their growth a larger boost
and the bonus effect is still based on the quality of the item. They'll sometimes ask for low tier items that they'll receive 0 growth from even though they asked for it.
As you feed them stuff that gives a lot of growth, they become pickier eaters and you need to feed them a couple bad items to bring the accepted quality bar back down.

>>3918301
Terranigma would top my list. Absolutely love that game.

>>3918301
Where's rudras?

>>3918471
Damn, soe is one of the best games ever. Strange.

>>3920467
I don't even pay attention to what they want. I just buy like 50 of the cheapest store-bought items that gives one sliver of progress, and stuff them full of that.

>>3920444
It's better than Chrono Trigger.

>>3920804
In Good Tier

>>3918301
>earthbound lower than secret of mana
congrats on your mental illness

earthbound is #1 and dq3 remake is #2. any other "opinion" is irrelevant and gay.