if byzantine empire = roman empire then it's true

it's not, because it's the eastern roman empire

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um, ackshewally

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basileia rhomaion

well okay, you can call it byzantine empire if you want
i just didn't want to completely trigger the autist who insists all the time that it's the roman empire

The English Country centred around Washington DC will be known as the United States of America, even though they only encompass a fraction of the American continent.

North American* continent.

Venezuela is in South America.

the snarky "even though" remark is snide, arrogant and misses the point completely. god i fucking hate swedes.

There was actually a time when the Eastern Roman Empire conquered the city of Rome.
Also, many of the Greek lands had been Roman for about 500 years when the empire collapsed.
Being Greek doesn't exclude you from being Roman.

>being ruled directly from rome for 500 years doesn't make you roman
>being in sweden for 5 minutes makes you just as swedish as johan himself :)

imagine drinking water
*consumes cement*

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please see the attached image for a brief summary of Turkish and gayreek relations

What's your biggest regret when it comes to eu5? For me I regret the fact that the devs, despite their best intentions early on, seem to completely disregard their design philosophy and are now trying to bring the game more in line with eu4. YouTubers are openly crying for mission trees and mana, and saying they're not allowed to have any negative modifiers (see: complecancy) and they'll give it to them. Outside of eu5 it's this
https://youtu.be/ajQA4NTwvz0

>>2322764
that image is lidurally me at 30 years old (just the bottom right corner)

>>2323037
the game needs mission trees, kys nigger

mission trees are gay

there was no "eastern roman empire" that was a separate state from the roman empire. Even after theodosius, it was a single roman empire that was ruled by multiple emperors. the "western roman empire" and "eastern roman empire" are just the names of regions, not historical states. Even as they acted more independent from each other, emperors were still regional rulers of the one singular roman empire. Saying "it was the eastern roman empire not the roman empire" is like saying "los angeles isn't in the usa it's in california"

los angeles isn't in the usa, it's in commiefornia

unpopular opinion: byzantine empire sounds more epic and imperial

it would but the american (and internet kiddie) pronunciation of bizzen-teen is cringe and sounds pathetic
it's bye-zan-tyne

bisontyne

byzantine empire < vizantiya

Rhomania is more historical and sounds cool if you pronounce it like how the Romans did. Rho-mah-nia. Bye-zan-tine sounds absolutely fucking retarded

i just call it the gayreek breeding stable myself

It wasn't Greek albeit

okay mr smartypants
who was it then

Row mans

>>2323232
t. vlach

>romania
>no romes

>euiiii
glorified risk
>euiiiii
glorified monopoly
>ckiii
glorified sims

>brainless deletion of posts

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>game is about industrial revolution
>doesn't have urbanization beyond flavor text
>that's because neither cities nor villages even exist in the game, new pops get spawned in as fully grown adults inheriting their parent group's jobs and instantly start committing pull requests to society
>peasants, factory workers, and landed nobility all live side by side in the same metaphysical apartment complex, and everyone politely agrees not to bump into each other
>there is no overcrowding, no sanitation crises, no urban stress
>just smooth 24/7 git pulls because all you really need in life is the Sky Vending Machine™ and prioritized market access.

what is with aisloppers and making dishonest posts?

not him, but some provinces should make more than one resource

I want to try the ultimate mod for hoi3 https://old.reddit.com/r/paradoxplaza/comments/1ji444y/ultimate_hoi3_pack_textures/, this nigga says a version is available on the forum. I am paywall cucked by this shitty paracuck community, someone please download it and upload it on a mega or something it looks cool af

of course, there are many things to be improved about liqqy
too bad the sequel turned out to be absolute trash and a step backwards in most places

speaking of hoi3, if memegame2 didn't simply incorporate the wargame mechanics of it, it would've been a great gsg
too bad it didn't

i really think mechanized infantry and indirect-fire artillery are well outside of the real of medieval combat, although it would be interesting to see the battle of hastings involve strategic bombers

there is no medieval combat in memegame2 though

when napoopan will resume active development

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Frog spotted

oh there you go again with your no true scotsman fallacy, just because the individual levied peasant isn't fully modelled with his hopes and dreams written down in .lua doesn't mean that crusader kings 2 doesn't involve maedieval combat

according to this faggot, urbanization in any form or shape exists in memegame2
the length he's willing to defend the sacred cow..

well what would you call the urban baronies then? is that not urbanization because each individual hearth is not modelled down to the type of wood used?

i would have liked memegame2 more if it had a "gas the ______" button but for any pop culture in your nation
that way it wouldn't be racist because any people could get it so it'd be an equal playing field

best i can do is expel the jewry
you might want to try victoria 2 if you want to genocide certain ethnicities

>memegame2
>ethnicities
miss me with that bullshit nigga

yea', that's the memegame right there
parakikes put gas attack in the memegame but they can't put gas chambers

how could they have put gas attack in a medieval game? did i miss a dlc

>i'd say all this day in history OPs and cringe vicky2 meme posters should be rounded up and put into the gas chamber
what did this newfag mean by this?
they come here and think they can dictate general policy?

here's a harsh truth
all grand startegy games are memegames by the virtue of profit over quality
there's a reason why each gsg has a unique thing about them when instead every new installment should have incorporated all of the fan-favorite all-era mechanics from the previous titles
>they're called vicky3 and eu5
hoarding "everything" and then massively downgrading them you mean? it is no secret that eu5 plays different than eu5, ck3 plays different than ck2, they don't re-invent shit nonono they want you to buy everything they shit out

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100 years of Mamluk rule. The Timurids are next on the chopping block.
Mamluks are almost certainly an S-tier nation.

opened eu5 for the first time in a month
booted into poland
im supposed to fight for lithuanian honor day 1 but there are 40,000 czechs knuckle-deep into my poosay so i just closed the game

>>2324137
They are, especially if you do the Albania strat at the very beginning of the game, problem with Mamluks is the power creep of Timurids and Ottomans, these nations are so broken it makes the 2nd superpower of the game with a great mission tree and an amazing formable look balanced in comparison

>>2324186
Bohemia is the strongest european nation atm

Ranking goes Bohemia > France > Castile > Naples as strongest nations in europe I think

>>2324191
well i don't want to play as them i want to play as poland

>>2324186
>rise levi
>start occupying bohemian vasal in silesia
>try to not engage
>seperate peace with each bohemia vassal anexing them
>Lithuania eventualy loses and dropes some land to Teutons and reparatinos
You can grab 1/3 of silesia states and weaken bohemia in the long run. If you fail just restart since it happens day 1.

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legendary game this

gott erhalte unsern kaiser

kiss left sex right

ok /gsg/, fuck, marry, kill: france, spain, italy

kill france, fuck spain, marry italy
t. germany

real germany would marry spain

kill france
marry russia
fuck italy
eat poland

D: why would you eat poland?

so i could smooch russia better

>real germany would marry spain
why doe. germany and italy go way back. makes more sense to marry italy and fuck spain as opposed to marrying spain and fucking italy.

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leopold,_Prince_of_Hohenzollern

>decline throne to avoid war with france
>go to war anyway

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Wow! I have never seen a great power intervene in a war.

funny how euiiii always looked like shit but now that euiiiii is out euiiii looks good

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whats the best gsg to coom to, i want to avoid it.

ck2 obviously

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What are the must have mods for EUV? I’m not looking to change the map, or have some complete change to the three or full overhaul. I wanna know what are the mods that fix the problems in the base game? I already have No Casus Belli Wars Removed, Reasonable Prices, Hussites (More Brutal Hussite Wars), The Wrath of Timur, Hide Annoying Alerts, Estate Income & Bankruptcy Fix, Dynamic Discovery Spread, Dense Tech Tree, Historical Tweaks, Fix Red Turban Rebellion, No Early Colonization, Limited African Colonization, and Restricted Colonization.
Are there any others I should get? Any I should remove and replace?

the kyiv name changer

make sure you change it to the correct non-Russian non-Ukrainian form of Kiof

you should probably check euvg or something, not that this place is dead or something we just don't like euv

it's not even that we dislike euiiiii, it's that euiiiii is not in a good state yet
it really needs 8 dlcs, thereabouts, to really come into its own, artistically and commercially

>Kijew
>only 10% Jew

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dear G-d... or should i say dear satan?

kv never had large jewish population though? this map is from 1900 btw

so how come saloniki used to be a major commercial port for the osman empire but was completely squandered under the greek administration? imagine how rich the gayreeks could have been...

then why did they name it Kijew? next you'll be saying that Roma isn't 95% Roma

how come roman empire was big and strong while greece is small and weak?

yes, after all a small country could never hope to maintain and grow a major commercial port — this is why antwerp is a tiny fishing village

what connects antwerp and what connects solun?

water, that's why they're port cities

what does antwerp connect and what does selanik connect?

land to sea, in both cases, i believe

they all connect people to people
for the human race

thanks for clarification, mate! now even i don't understand why salonika is unimportant

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman,_Romania

thank you, minister

it's important relative to the rest of Greece
but you're comparing Belgium, one of the core parts of the industrial revolution and one of the most urbanised places on Earth, to... Greece.
what, are you also going to be surprised that Djibouti (city) is less important as a port than Antwerp despite it also being a national capital?

yes, i am comparing the richest part of the osmanoglu realm, a major exporter of exquisite wines and textiles and let us not forget philosophy, to some little tin pot north european swamp
in fact both of those major ports imported and exported goods not just for themselves but for the major surrounding regions. the salonika is a gateway to the balkans and most importantly is not subject to the steep dardanelles tolls and turkish restrictions
what i'm saying is that salonika falling into irrelevance is purely down to greek mismanagement and not because of some immutable quality of the location. in fact it's a better location than antwerp, because antwerp has major competitors right next door: rotterdam and dunkirk, to name a few. salonika on the other hand, is peerless

>>2324574
that's a lot more jews than i expected
hitler really did a number on em, huh

that was the balfour declaration, actually, and the main reason for it i might add. why expel the jews when you can just convince them to leave on their own? a very british solution

how much revenue did the Ottomans get from exporting philosophy in 1911?

oh true i forgor that a lot of them just left on their own to go to israel or jewish york city

directly, not very much, but the secondary and tertiary knock-on benefits were immeasurable, both in terms of monetary gains and international prestige

i believe the proper vernacular is "jew york city"

oh yeah? according to who tough guy

so I suppose you can name one (1) philosopher from Ottoman-era Thessalonika

according to a considerable body of opinion

well that's easy, sabbatai tsevi's work has influenced the whole world and is still influencing it to this day
the man might not have been born in salonika, but he spent a considerable part of his life there

sabbatai tsevi is not a real person, you just made that name up

you might say your willy is in exile, to doorn

good point
the Jewish community there was very influential, until it disappeared owing to Greek mismanagement and no other issues

it is very diplomatic to call a pogrom "mismanagement"

not even jews like sabbatai zevi kek, friendly reminder he converted to Islam to save his own asa

yes, and one of his descendants, mustafa kemal, deposed the sultan for that. it only took a couple hundred years
also he didn't convert, he just said he converted

Paradox should create an AI that detects player-made bordergore and instantly causes your nation to lose stability because of it.

zimbabwe could have invented the printing press in 1444

https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/threads/advances-ultimate-hoi.1730378/

again, can an anon upload this mod on google drive or something so I can play it

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We are the masters of this world
Our vassals include:
Morocco
Makuria
Ajam
Georgia
Byzantium

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Nothing personal, England.

>>2324804
Annex Byzantium they're a horrible vassal to have

>>2324804
Why haven't you formed Egypt yet?

forming egypt is ass, form persia instead

>>2324819
They seem alright.

>>2324820
I need Admin tech 18.

>>2324825
No. You can form it by a mamluk mission super early

>>2324824
You can do both, Egypt is not an end game tag

>>2324825
Enjoying putting down their constant rebels?

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I won the game

>>2324913
I am guessing that you are playing as Japan and managed to convince the Chinese Emperor to speak your language?
Does your name now change to Nippon?

thats korea

Sorry, I couldn't tell.

>japonics

ay yo, we wuz shoguns and shiet

hooked on japonics

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200 years into our Mamluk campaign and I think that we are done. Our army and navy quality is the highest in the entire world and Alexandria is worth double that of the English Channel.
Really fun campaign but keep in mind that you start off as a great power from day 1. The most challenging part is the first war against the Ottomans.

didnt ask

i care

how's eu5 1.1 looking bros? will it finally be worth playing? these niggers better fix the game by the time the rome dlc is out

Constantinople != Rome

I was moreso speaking about the empire but constantinople was in name, spirit, and function the new rome

we know jack about 1.1

Power ranking:
1. Ottomans
2. France
3. Timurids
4. Castille
5. Mamluks

that's a shame
I hope they make blobbing worth doing. In eu4 the only way you could have fun was via blobbing, but it seems like they course-corrected way too hard to the point where blobbing is stupid and not even worth bothering with in eu5

talex grandi

>2325261
yeah jack is cool

blobbing in eu5 should be ultimately possible but very unsustainable in the long run, making it a very pro thing to keep intact for longer than 10 years and only slows down the bigger your blob gets

>>2325077
china hasn't changed it as far as I'm aware, but I have max court grandeur so i guess I out cultured them

Blobbing in EUV is way easier than the complaints about it would lead one to believe

I haven't played eu5 yet but the complaints I've heard were that blobbing is very stupid economically and late game it's just extremely costly while peace deals are the eu4 equivalent of having -25% admin efficiency.
Blobbing should be costly but not completely counterproductive or tedious. World conquests are stupid as fuck and I hated how the gameplay of eu4 just came down to map painting. But at least let me restore Trajan's borders nigga, even if it means I'm super overextended by the end of it

every complaint is trivial and superficial apart from that the map doesn't delight over time,... forking mission trees are last gen, and AI-powered computer personality is next-gen. the result is that playing it is quite tedious, without the payoff of intrigueing borders and that

>>2325472
Someone did a WC within like a week of the game coming out, stop posting about something you’ve never played.

based pizza wagies trying to filter out risks to their business by cutting unnecessary and avoidable costs caused by retarded clients

>>2324251
for a map staring game rhe colours are disgusting. lools like clown puke and that's not even the worst map mode. Truly despicable by paracox

the map is the only good thing about that game
you dont have eyes

it's still mogged by liqqy's map, either modded or unmodded

https://youtu.be/iHzuygQd3do

true, hfm map is the best

hfm's map is too pockmarked with black lakes for my tastes
base mish mash map mod is much batter, after all hfm just includes it with minor changes, instead of letting the user decide whether he'd like the manilla map or modded, like every other self-respecting mod does

eu5 has a nice looking map

but he is right, memegame2 has a better looking map than eu5

>>2326202
only for richfags

t.urd worlder

memegame2's map is weirdly squished, especially when you look at scandinavia and the colors are washed out
and in practice you get the bordergore of exclaves and independent counties, especially if you start before 1066

ck2 vanilla map is dog just look at sicily and tthe med in general but some mods that redo the whole thing look really nice

No way niggas are pretending the flat png mspaint vic2 map is good

it may come to your surprise, but maps are by definition flat

by what definition
if my map is a little bit old and is a bit warped from being rolled up or folded often, is it no longer a map

by the centuries old cartographical definition, it is the representation of the surface of the globe spread onto a two dimensional surface of a piece of paper
and if we go by folds and creases suddenly making it not flat and not two dimensional then vic2 map can't be that because it has those
then again if we use the surface of the computer screen as the flatness defining part then all grandi strategy games have flat maps

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foxes

i am fond of grand strategy

Why was my cute racist fox deleted

because the janny (probably fakeotter) is camping this general

>play swamp germans
>get anarcho libs in power as they are kind of based
>no more pms
bug or too radicool for rule?

I'm glad anarcho-liberals cured your premenstrual syndrome, queen.

there will likely never be another grand strategy game...

never say never

strang e situation where the shining example of a grand strategy game only drives home further the need for homecook

trust in johan for 1.1

Chickens can’t fly. But I’ve seen one eke enough wing flap to clear a fence. Then it’s free. But then so too are the foxes.

Starting as korea, whats the priority in buildings to kickstart my economy? I feel like my growth is too slow trying to play tall.

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hwarang and war wagons
remember when national ideas were announced for eu4 and how the graphics were.

how do you ask for advice without mentioning the game
conquering manchuria works in all of them doe

Why is the captcha even worse now
It's like they're trying to kill the site

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sk-RJ0CTcJM
how is it possible to click this fast

>The announcement of the declaration came just four days after discussions between Józef Beck and Czechoslovak Foreign Minister Edvard Beneš, who speaking to Joseph Addison, the British ambassador in Prague, claimed that the agreement was a "stab in the back" and went on to say that it showed that Poland was a "useless country" that deserved another partition.[28]
holy based Czechoslovaks?

>trans olza
cute..

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The liberal maniacs have toppled the government. Queen Victoria has been dragged to the streets where people do unfathomable things to her...

So since eu5 is a confirmed flop, how's grey eminence looking?

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:(

Can't they just do a Kickstarter or something? GSGniggers are willing to pay hundreds for DLC I'm sure they'd be willing to spare a few shillings to a Kickstarter

dont worry fellow chuds, age of enlightenment is dropping soon...

for me it's gilded destiny

Is that the dlc that's supposed to fix eu5

more like gelded destiny...

kid from iceland called patronymic names

>0-2 Fourth Crusade Eastern Roman Merchant Republic
>3-5 Italian Decentralized Nightmare Kingdom
>6-8 Russian Tribe Nomad CBT Chamber
>9 A Secret Fourth Thing
I just really like ck2

why do so many posts in this thread get deleted? anyway, johan (pbuh) saved eu5 https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/threads/tinto-talks-extra-misc-things-22nd-of-january-2026.1896310/

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gsgs for this feel?

vic2

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>modern day economic map game

>mindbreak the ai into a continuous loop

*consumes milk*

is AI actually good or bad for /gsg/? never was this house so divided on a topic

depends
i wouldn't play anything developed by ai

gsgs have never had good ai.

why do some people so against AI?
hollywood won't do historical epics
paradox won't deliver historical power fantasy
yet blackrock will deliver both in abundance

"we just want free healthcare and roads bro"
*kills you and your children*

yep, eu5, time to spend my scale mana and coin mana to conquer more land

"we just want ai to deliver x in abundance"
*ai kills us all*

survey: should thane come back to /gsg/
do not reply to this post as a vote for yes

no

maybe

tualgans will rise again

>>2326202
Bullshit, eu4 Map ist much better

vanilla? no, eu4 vanilla map is absolute dogshit and tied with hoi4 map

mmhmmm vanilla

Official map ranking
>Horrible eye rape tier
Vic2
>Dog shit tier
Eu4
Vic3
>Whatever tier
Hoi4
>Looks good tier
Ck3
Ck2
>Beautiful tier
Eu5
Imperator

for me it's
modded eu4
ck3
base eu4
imperator
ck2
vicky2
hoi4
vicky3

forgor to put eu5 at the bottom of the list HOLY FUCK

ck3>imperator>eu5>eu4>vic2>hoi4>vic3>ck2
vic3 and ck2 would be higher if the map wasn't as disgustingly inaccurate. instant turn off

Yea eu4s vanilla map is very ugly but the map mods can look fantastic. I guess that's a positive of having an ugly map, it encourages modders to fix it so you have a huge variety of great looking maps to choose from. Ck3 had like one or two map mods and they weren't even updated

>Official map ranking
>>Horrible eye rape tier
>Vic2
how could anyone but a newfag say that about memegame2

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I royal married my heir off to dai viet and he now lives in their court... I wish it warned me...

At least his wife is the heir to the kingdom.

CK3 actually makes the crusades more immersive, the smooth levantine coastlines, the scorching deserts, the winding rivers, even the cute little pyramids all sell the setting

>
lol

Landmarks are something that's very important too for immersion. Even if it's not to scale, seeing the pyramids or the dome of the rock really makes you feel more like you're in Egypt or Jerusalem. Like the graphic of the Theodosian walls and compact urban site of Constantinople really makes it feel more like the heavily defended metropolis it was, as opposed to just any other province.
It really does make you wonder how anyone can like the vic2 map, it's so fucking bland and boring to look at, you're basically zooming into a png

>map beauty tier lists
>without even a mention of sengoku
real newfag hours

>>2328032
And then after the Crusade they immediately all convert to Islam. Very immersive.

they've gone native

When's the last time you played ck3? I've witnessed a ton of crusades but never the crusader state straight up converting. Usually I've just seen them get gobbled up by a blob or balkanize from rebellions. Are you sure you weren't just seeing them deposed and replaced with some native?

have they even introduced any substantial mechanical improvement dlcs for ck3?
it really feels like the development for new paradox games is glacially slow

>When's the last time you played ck3?
Doesn’t matter, they released CRUSADER KINGS 3 with completely broken Crusades and I’m never going to stop mentioning it.

look, chud, the game is not about crusades, kings, or the political influence of the catholic church over the whole of the civilised world, it's about unga bunga sapmi chieftains sacrificing newborns so that the sun rises next day forming huge blobby empires

you already had this exact discussion a couple months ago

i wasn't present, let's have it again

>it's about unga bunga sapmi chieftains sacrificing newborns so that the sun rises next day forming huge blobby empires
you forgot incest

but i play video games for the escapism, not to recreate real life

People really confuse historical mechanics with historical outcomes. A game can have historical mechanics, but very ahistorical borders by the end date. History is full of the right people coming up at the right time and completely random events. If the caliphate or mongol or Frankish empire never existed, you'd be calling them absolute bullshit blobs if you saw a player with their borders in ck3. All it takes in history to make or break a kingdom is one bad or good ruler. GSGs would be extremely boring if they tried to be as historical as possible when it comes to borders, it'd always be the same thing. You can railroad it a bit with historical mechanics though. For example, Britain's geography making them prone to Norse invasions, or Iberia's location making the reconquista inevitable, or Rome being completely surrounded by enemies while infighting making their fall inevitable. Saying a game isn't historical because outcomes are different is very stupid and completely ignores what actually makes a game interesting

paradox games have neither and i doubt anyone here in /gsg/ is stupid enough to confuse the two. if they do so it's on purpose

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neither is memegame2 about the 19th-century socio-economic fabric, industrialization, or the delicate balance of power between great European nations, it's about unga bunga quantum homunculi eating coal for breakfast, inventing glory in a basement, allowing more people to ascend the social ladder, so player can unlock Medicine II and Steam Engine IV faster in order to outmeme his adversaries in conceptual warfare

the sub-80 iq interpretation of "consume" as "eating" by troglodytes like you will never not be funny to me

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>give me precisely 0.05 units of fine linen per day so i can immediately throw it into the landfill after i tick up my daily needs checkup or i rebel

>ck2
>good map
Lol no

capitalist (and upper class in general) rebellions are a piece of cake. it's a unit of hussars or artillery spawning in a major city
the main threat of discontent capitalists is that they start political movements which other pops join even though they might not be that discontent themselves. then they get radicalised by the movement

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do i claim the mandate? I'm almost completely unsincized, what happens with that if I take the mandate?

don't do it it's blasphemy

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dang. I thought this would cripple his control but I guess you get proximity through vassals?

would create the whitest, chaddest jomon children with bottom left

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I feel like how warscore is calculated needs a tweak. I get that I dont have the war goal, but they have nothing.

https://www.reddit.com/r/EU5/comments/1qieztg/eu5_is_now_down_to_47_positive_on_recent_steam/
I'm not feeling good tintobros...

wtf, that's literally lower than l'empereur

new patch is gonna save it bros, i know it.

you're making johan cry...

all the criticisms are shit i said before it even released. saved my money and my time.

>make every game as a means to sell gorillion dlc to paypigs
>the last game in the series with gorillions of dlc is better than your new game with zero dlc
love to see this swedekike strategy catch up to them

It's 44% now kek

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Yup, he's bricked.

does the AI not just move its capital? Surely ming has a gorillion dollars to move their capital.

>yeah, let's just leave eu5 in a completely awful state while we vacation for a month, this won't make the community hate us or anything

What was the rush to release it even? It obviously wasn't tested or polished.

johans yacht payment was coming up

>yohan is spending more money than he is earning due to his coke addiction and frivolous spending on monkey baubles
sad state of affairs

I don’t think EUIV is even close to comparable to how good EUV is. I want to play now but I’m busy waging out of state

>yung yohan is shilling on tuvaluan oyster gathering boards
grim

>>2323773
Thats because its a map painting game. Not a fuckin cities skylines sim

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So I'm playing OWB Enclave Reborn, and it's my second time going for a reform run, first one failed miserably, does this side get as strong as the Purists? I'd take it's a slow process since there is so much more to do compared to the normal route

>>2328395
I doubt it’s more difficult than the vanilla OWB Enclave paths in Eureka or Northern Canada.

you're never going to stop being a paypig

memegame2 is not even a good map painting game with all those crappy ux and retarded core system, as well as an ai that will happily start ww1 fifty years earlier over the holy island of St. Irrelevant.

memegame2 should've included ww2, it's so senseless that it didn't

that's a big jump from the middle ages to ww2, too big for any paradox game

There are so many Greeks in Imperator: Rome.
Maybe it should have been titled Hegemon: Greeks.

lots of gay sex in rome then huh

grandi diddy antiquity

>>2328469
Yea no, turns out this shit is stronger than the purist route, it just takes a lot of fucking time

monkey from Nintendo games

prussians

post maps. your favourite campaigns. post them.

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ok

>denmark
>is finland

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and then i made it bigger

stupidest blob i've ever seen (the progress into france that is)
doesn't secure you any trade income, doesn't even get you paris
i'd clean up my german and polish borders then take more of netherlands for incum

i'm already generating enough income to curbstomp everyone in my region
all that's left is working around the coalitions and getting enough gov cap to make a carolingian prussia

someone's a little jealy

Most men have an innate desire to link with women.
It is only us individuals of patrician taste who realise that the greatest joy is to blob in Europe.

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*in the mediterranean sea

i painted it turquoise

eww how can you let such a humongous poland to form

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hear hear

but you also have a humongous poland in your prussia game

Play Lithuania. They get a mission to force a union upon Muscovy.

that's lithuania though

lithuania is poland

hungry austria

gary the hun

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poland is the center of the world, chud.

>.com.tr
why are turks so gay for poland? were they really so mindbroken by vienna they fell in love?

akshually germany is the center of the world

they are a vassal, so no they can't be the center

by that logic only north korea can be the center of the world, because every other country is somebody's vassal (yes, including israel)

north korea is my vassal i own them

north korea is a russian vassal

remember back in the days of the Sino-Soviet split when the PRC took the stance that the DPRK was too pro-western?

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Lithuania is no little fish.
Biggest issues at the start are being surrounded by Poland (quite strong) and Muscovy (very strong). It doesn't help that about 60% of our people believe in the wrong version of Christianity.
Still, we have a moderately large army and economy to work with.

>>2329435
Hm, that reminds me to look into Cossacks in EUV. Though I suppose I’ll need to wait 5 years for them to get a unique government in an update.

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>>2329467
They already have one.
Not that it ever comes up because they assimilate out of existence almost instantly

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We fought a hell war against Poland for their throne.
Our confederation (no backsies allowed) includes:
Lithuania
Poland
Livonian Order
Danzig
Moldavia

Poland shouldn't be allowed to ally Bohemia.

who would've known that russia would fall under the perpetual curse since the mindless murders of the romanovs

she fell into one before that

nay

still waiting for someone to explain why it makes sense to see Judas as the villain when he was the only one making sure that the guy whose whole purpose was to get tortured and executed got tortured and executed

Malicious intent

he wasn't a villain although his intent was villainous (selling your friend out for gold)
and ontop of that, in the end he committed suicide which goes against god

ok first of all, no humans but jesus is without a sin, so we're all but a villain in the eyes of the omni-benevolent
second of all, judas didn't betray jesus for a bag of denarius, he did so believing jesus was the worldy messiah that will rise up against the romans so he wanted to hasten or even force jesus to reveal his true powerlevel
third of all, suicide is not the worst sin there is, not even close

>>2329470
So you could just play as Kiev and then boost Cossack culture conversion? Or are they under the Golden Horde?

every country should get a unit token at the start of each turn and cossacks are an cavalry unit with boosted naval speed and +2 damage against orcs and so on. we have strayed too far from risk into the dark and murky waters of simulationism and it's time to emerge, with or without johan

how do I pirate Paradox game DLC
I have Stellaris on Steam but no DLCs with it so how do I enable the DLCs without throwing away my precious shekels

no memegame2 is not a good simulation of social, military and economic realities of the 1800s not even close

make account on cs rin ru
find your game thread
find the dlc files and put them in your dlc folder
find the creamapi and put it in your main game folder

^virussss don't click

>>2329650
>make account on cs rin ru
it's all in Russian, I don't trust it

sucks to be a bitch then because it's your only feasible option unless you want to buy on gog and manually install each and every dlc

americucks and yuropoors be like
>it's all in Russian, I don't trust it

WARUM NICHT?!
ES SIND IMMER DIE GLEICHEN LEUTE!! DIEJENIGEN, DIE KEINEN RESPEKT VOR ANDEREN MENSCHEN HABEN UND EINEN VOLLSTÄNDIGEN, TOTALEN, MANGEL AN MORAL!! UNFASSBAR!!

calm down hans

>ok first of all, no humans but jesus is without a sin, so we're all but a villain in the eyes of the omni-benevolent
>we're all but a villain
>villain
is this another word for sinner
if so, then we're all sinners
>he did so believing jesus was the worldy messiah that will rise up against the romans so he wanted to hasten or even force jesus to reveal his true powerlevel
there is no verse stating such a scheme
what a foolish man judas would be, then, if he thought he knew the best way without jesus' prior input
>third of all, suicide is not the worst sin there is, not even close
killing yourself is evidently annihilating yourself utterly to the point where your life is unsalvageable in the physical plane, effectively overriding any plan that god may have for you
doesn't look very good on your spiritual resume when it is decided what becomes of you in the afterlife, does it?

>without jesus' prior input
what would such input look like? perhaps he would gather all of the disciples around and inform them that one of them was to sell him out?

okay i know that he made this revelation
what is your point?
he wasn't saying like "alright, i need one of you niggers to do this to me" or anything

look I don't know how to tell you this
if the omniscient, omnipotent being in a human skinsuit says "yo this shit's gonna happen", it's gonna happen
what was Mr. Iscariot supposed to do? NOT do the thing that G-d had predestined for him?

whether or not judas was actually originally god's tool to getting the job done or not isn't what i'm willing to debate
but on the other hand, judas thinking he got the plan all figured out sounds like foolishness,
and i also don't believe his motive was even of helping jesus fulfill a role
i also think greed played a big contributor to his decision

>>2329668
>there is no verse stating such a scheme
What about the whole gospel that's literally just that and which got excluded in favour of telling the same story three times over because they had a quota of exactly four gospels for four directions

no, i was saying there was no scheme conjured by judas to conspire in this
in other words, judas only did it for the money and not for helping jesus/god out in their plan
his scheme was to make money, even though it helped out humanity in the end

>is "villain" another word for sinner
yes, we need to be reborn in spirit filled with the holy spirit for it not to be the case
>if so, then we're all sinners
duh, that's literally the one message of the gospel, that we are all in need of a savior (that's it if you don't wanna perish but desire everlasting life)
>there is no verse stating such a scheme
>what a foolish man judas would be, then, if he thought he knew the best way without jesus' prior input
Acts 1:6 So when they had come together, they were asking Him, saying, “Lord, is it at this time You are restoring the kingdom to Israel?”
Mark 8:31-32 And He began to teach them that the Son of Man must suffer many things and be rejected by the elders and the chief priests and the scribes, and be killed, and after three days rise again. (32) And He was stating the matter openly. And Peter took Him aside and began to rebuke Him.
>killing yourself is evidently annihilating yourself utterly to the point where your life is unsalvageable in the physical plane, effectively overriding any plan that god may have for you
define killing yourself.
1. killing yourself because you are a doomer and hate everything God believes in = God can't force you to be with him when you evidently killed yourself just to stay away from him
2. killing yourself because other endless reasons but you've tried your best to hate sinful things = God saves
it's all in the heart (Mat 5:29), whether you're subscribed to jesus or not, the debts/sins? all taken care of.
>NOT do the thing that G-d had predestined for him?
there's no such thing as fate and Jesus wasn't entitled to his villain (judas) an intervention
>and i also don't believe his motive was even of helping jesus fulfill a role
judas literally witnessed laws of physics defying miracles every other day (jesus healed everybody on his path). also virtually all jews at the time, even some disciples still thought that jesus will be a military leader