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I'd like to dream of my waifu Satania but I've never been successful. I love her so much and I want to talk to her. Can someone give me advice on how I can talk to her please?
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>>1555074
I wish I could help with this, as I'm also very interested. I'll try bumping your thread if you can't do it yourself.
I don't know, man. Get better at daydreaming and general mental visualization first? Attempt image streaming?
• https://old.reddit.com/r/CureAphantasia/
• https://old.reddit.com/r/CureAphantasia/comments/xswh16/how_to_develop _visualization_using_sensory/
Severely doubt you'll develop hyperphantasia immediately, it'll take years or something (or it might never happen), but trying to improve your mind's eye view isn't bad anyway. Regardless, after you've done that, read several books on lucid dreaming? This, supposedly, is the best introduction: https://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/archivos_pdf/exploring_luciddreamin g.pdf
Keep trying the WBTB method (https://www.dreamviews.com/wiki/WBTB-Tutorial)? There's lots of information on Dreamviews.
Wouldn't recommend tulpamancy as it apparently has a lot of risks and isn't easily undoable. Still, I had an interest in it, those guys fascinate me.
• https://archive.4plebs.org/x/thread/41066548/
• https://tulpanomicon.guide/
• https://www.tulpa.info/
• https://community.tulpa.info/topic/11498-list-of-guides/
• https://community.tulpa.info/topic/3411-jds-guide-to-visualization/
But yeah, like another anon said, if you get fixated enough on it, and believe it'll happen, it should occur. Maybe. Go through a lot of images of her, videos, a chat bot even, right before bed. Visualize a lot.
Crazy stuff. Still, understandable. Good luck!
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>>1555123
Thanks anon
>Keep trying the WBTB method (https://www.dreamviews.com/wiki/WBTB-Tutorial)? There's lots of information on Dreamviews.
>I don't know, man. Get better at daydreaming and general mental visualization first? Attempt image streaming?
>But yeah, like another anon said, if you get fixated enough on it, and believe it'll happen, it should occur. Maybe. Go through a lot of images of her, videos, a chat bot even, right before bed. Visualize a lot.
Thanks anon. I'm gonna try a dream journal, WBTB, and maybe the chatbot thing. I have a dakimakura of her too so it should happen if I seriously try to do this.
>Wouldn't recommend tulpamancy as it apparently has a lot of risks and isn't easily undoable. Still, I had an interest in it, those guys fascinate me
Yeah I looked into it and it seems interesting. I'd basically be creating Satania in my mind. Although that sounds interesting I'm not sure if I'd wanna go through with that. Thanks for the help anon
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>>1555126
>I'm gonna try a dream journal, WBTB, and maybe the chatbot thing.
Awesome.
>I have a dakimakura of her too so it should happen if I seriously try to do this.
Possibly, I hope so.
>Yeah I looked into it and it seems interesting. I'd basically be creating Satania in my mind.
Basically.
>Although that sounds interesting I'm not sure if I'd wanna go through with that.
No need. Don't risk it. If you get good at daydreaming then it's probably not needed to go that far.
>Thanks for the help anon
Anytime. Let me know if you manage to make it work, I'm curious about that. No rush. Satania's nice and you deserve her.
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>>1555129
>Anytime. Let me know if you manage to make it work, I'm curious about that. No rush. Satania's nice and you deserve her.
I will see if it works anons. It's probably going to take longer than this thread is allowed to stay up if it works or not. I'm going to try tonight and see what happens.
>Satania's nice and you deserve her.
Hehe thanks anon if your waifu is Junko I hope you see her as well :)
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>>1555122
/x/ is the paranormal board on 4chan, although it seems someone else has helped you anyway and given you some resources. But just to answer your question about talking to it though, that is actually one of the early steps to making a tulpa as I understand it.
The more you entertain the idea that Satania is a person in your head whose listening to your questions, the more your brain works toward developing that character and it becomes easier to imagine how she would respond. When you're doing all the work, just imagining her talking to you, that's called forcing, which eventually is supposed to become automatic. If you have a bad feeling about it, I fully empower you to avoid it. Some people have been known to have bad experiences with things like this.
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>>1555130
>It's probably going to take longer than this thread is allowed to stay up if it works or not.
Yep... That's okay.
>Hehe thanks anon if your waifu is Junko I hope you see her as well :)
Not quite my waifu, but... she's alright! More of a random pick. I'll also be trying my best to LD.
>>1555137
>If you have a bad feeling about it, I fully empower you to avoid it. Some people have been known to have bad experiences with things like this.
Indeed. If you have stuff to say, anon, go ahead. Maybe I'll learn something new from you, I don't know everything. Not really a tulpamancer myself, or an expert oneironaut either.
That's about it, I'll have to sleep. Two things before I go though: Sleep deprivation helped me dream more (unless that was coincidental), but it's not healthy. Another anecdotal thing is that if I abstain from masturbation, my dreams are more lucid? Usually they're very "foggy", vague, and hard to see. I've only been actually lucid once? But it was for a few seconds, can't remember any details apart from being inside a car, and feeling like it was real, as in, not-so-very-distinguishable from reality.
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>>1555074
If dreams are of any account, I think it's likely that you can't because what you really want is something entirely different, anon.
As is leaving this place, becoming someone whom you sincerely respect, to share that fullfillment and happiness with others and someone else
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Watch a ton of the anime she's from, look at the fanart, etc, then pop about 150 mg of DXM (10 of the nice cough gels), put on some music, and enjoy. You'll be making custom music videos in your mind's eye with her when you close your eyes in the dark listening to music like that
NB: do NOT do this if you're on SSRIs or MAOIs. Also, look on the package and make sure the ONLY active ingredient is dextromethorphan hbr, no guaifenesin, no acetaminophen, etc
I'll toss a topical song towards you, this one is great on DXM and I think it fits with what you're going for with the themes, this band is super goth
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lI6bA8eSYag
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>>1555713
Love is selfless, not selfish.
However much you try to convince yourself, friend, the character isn't real.
And that selflessness implies someone whom your heart goes to. Devoid of it, the mere object, and meaning behind one's doing is one's own satisfaction.
The one devoid of it, is often called not love, but lust. Like a cup that rather than wanting to share (as love is), is one that takes, to attempt a fulfillment. But misses many things.
I think you are free, fren. But I still encourage you
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>>1555107
>Look into the process for making a Tulpa
>>1555122
DO NOT MAKE A TULPA, YOU ARE DRIVING YOURSELF SLOWLY INSANE. like multiple personalities but worse, it can go really badly.
>>1555074
here's the actual answer:
go to sleep normally and set an alarm for about 4 to 6 hours later, wake up fully, then go back to sleep when you have been awake for 20 minutes. don't do anything too stimulating but also don't lay in bed.
you will lucid dream when you go back to sleep. i have done this before.
search this method online, the time period you sleep beforehand may have to vary. this is an actual life hack. you are hacking your brain into lucid dreaming somehow, i do not know how it works but it does.
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>>1555845
>WBTB
oh someone posted it, it is called wake, back to bed.
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>>1555862
Often these things come up as a way to engage in something akin to a relationship, while avoiding any rejection.
Rarely the reasons for fears of rejection come from others, but often from ignoring our own judgements. What we truly believe we should be doing. Our conscience.
Forgiveness and correction then come forward as the way. To love yourself, and truly love others.
This is something not asked, but maybe appreciated.
Wish you the best
God bless
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>>1555074
i've done this with saber before and here's how
>binge the media. i watched around 5 hours combined of zero and ubw. i have yet to figure out how to do it with game and VNs
>downers. i like to use alcohol and pot but im sure sleeping pills would work just as good. you need to fall asleep in an altered state
>fall asleep with the media playing
I was able to recreate this around 8 times before it stopped working.