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This thread is for general discussion of the afterlife, motivated by curiosity and fascination of the afterlife itself, rather than the fear of death.

Any kind of speculation is welcome. Feel free to share your own research or personal anecdotes. Questions are encouraged
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>>41879927
My dogs will be there and the woman I loved the most will be there. I'll be so god damn happy and at peace
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>>41879927
Pray your thread hits the bump limit anon.
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>previous thread
>has 1 post
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>>41879987
I didn't make that one but I guess not everyone is as interested in the afterlife as I am
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>>41879927
please pray for me that God will communicate to me that i dont have to get open heart surgery because i cant face it. i dont want to go to hell.
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Is she legit? I thought that "On Life after Death" was a great little book, but after reading her memoir she seems to have been conned by some fairly evil people without realizing.
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The SoulPhone seems like it would be interesting if it wasn't the most obvious scam ever
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>>41879927
Blue Eisenhower November is the afterlife plan.

Will you stand and fight, if Red Blue ?
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>>41880142
People discuss the afterlife plenty on other threads but this "general" never takes off. Just hang around those other threads
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>>41879927
Pure wish fulfillment speculation, but does anyone else describe what they want in vidya terms, e.g. I hope the afterlife has a server browser and character creator?
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>>41883232
>I hope the afterlife has a server browser and character creator
Me too anon, sadly at least to start out with we may have to design our avatars by our own rules and explore the old fashioned way to find new hot spots. We need afterlife engineers up in this bitch.
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>>41880659
U will not go to hell anon, best of luck, do not be afraid
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>Near-death experience stories about floating in the abyss and nothing else
Yup this is the worst one. Makes me wonder if our soul is some tiny organism in our body that just floats around in our brain or spinal fluid.
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>>41883232
Would be fun
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>>41883232
Our current situation might be the result of such things.
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What does everyone think of quantum immortality?
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>>41883448
The only thing worse than the eternal abyss would be being consciously trapped inside a rotting corpse.
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>>41881459
picrel is a woman?
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"Time Travelers could be here" he thought
"I've never been in this timeline before. There could be Time Travelers anywhere."
The cool time stream wind felt good against his dimensional regulator.
"I LOVE TIME TRAVELERS" he thought.

Cage The Elephant - Come A Little Closer, reverberated his entire car, making it pulsate even as the $2 energy drink circulated through his powerful thick veins and washed away his (merited) fear of alternative timelines after jumping.
"With Time Travel humanity can go anywhere they want" he said to himself, out loud.

Unity of humanity with A.I. to solve time travel
Everyone goes backwards in time together and saves every human who ever lived. Some people it takes a longgggg time of self reflection and self judgement before others can judge them...but time....is on....our side....
With enough forgiveness, we can move the futures history
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>>41879927
I dont care about gods or religion, after dead i just want another chance to do things right with my passed loved ones, with my heart bleeding bitter repent, PLEASE
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>>41883448
>floating in the abyss and nothing else
It seems to be a temporary stage in most cases, meeting "source", the creator, God.
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>>41888507
Don't believe in it. If you fuck up and die, you fuck up and die. I guess in some cased you could get a NDE and given the choice to let go, but that idea that you'll just forever shift into a reality where you aren't dead because "it wasn't your time" sounds like bullshit. Dying stupidly is part of the learning process, why wouldn't it be?
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>>41879927
How quantum immortality could work:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=65jdcvSOOjI
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How do we keep "ourselves" if a lot of that is tied into our brains? Consciousness may still exist but doesn't mean it's you any longer.
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>>41894194
We don't. You will still be the awareness that you are right now, just with a different perspective.
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>>41894194
All observable phenomena which suggest that the soul survives physical death (NDE's, ADC's, evidential mediumship, etc) also suggest that you keep your memories and personality when you die. It's only when you reincarnate that you lose your individual characteristics (so that they can be replaced by new ones)
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>>41879927
I need afterlife to be real, I can't cope with the fact I will die.
If you could extend your life by killing people I would already be doing that
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>>41879927
on the soul
https://odysee.com/@dontspherethetruth:c/aetheric-soul:8
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>>41896321
Multiple independent sources have been able to verify that, at the very least, death isn't just "the end."
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>>41896321
https://archive.org/details/twentycasessugge00ians
https://archive.org/details/wherereincarnati0000stev

And this source bank that Tibetan anon posted proves not everything in material and you are not just material
https://tagungshaushamburg.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/06/4_SITMA.pdf
https://www.cia.gov/readingroom/docs/CIA-RDP96-00792R000300330001-8.pdf
https://e-space.mmu.ac.uk/629726/1/Self-Ascribed%20Paranormal%20Ability.%20Reflexive%20Thematic%20Analysis.pdf
https://www.rcpsych.ac.uk/docs/default-source/members/sigs/spirituality-spsig/resources/james_pandarakalam_beyond_the_quantum_mind.pdf?sfvrsn=9090c6ab_2
https://dn790006.ca.archive.org/0/items/metaphysicalfoun00burtuoft/metaphysicalfoun00burtuoft.pdf
https://s3.us-west-1.wasabisys.com/luminist/EB/S/Stevenson%20-%2020%20Cases%20Suggestive%20of%20Reincarnation.pdf
https://www.dirzon.com/Doc/ReaderAsync?target=telegram%3AIan%20Stevenson-%20Where%20Reincarnation%20and%20Biology%20Intersect.pdf
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/228712565_Exploratory_study_The_random_number_generator_and_group_meditation
https://www.spr.ac.uk/3-experimental-psi
https://ia600501.us.archive.org/20/items/FritjofCapraTheTurningPoint/Dean%20Radin%20-%20The%20Conscious%20Universe%20-%20The%20Scientific%20Truth%20of%20Psychic%20Phenomena%20%5BOCR%5D.pdf
https://archive.org/details/1968backsterevidenceijpn10/page/329/mode/2up
magnet:?xt=urn:btih:9544e03140879358b28bac9e0eb4571bdb030ca7&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Fconcen.org%3A6969&dn=Theoccult.click+Content+Leaked+%28Part4%29+Academic+Reference&xl=143359205518
https://files.catbox.moe/z1ncts.pdf
https://archive.org/details/howtodevelopchip0000will
https://dn790000.ca.archive.org/0/items/MonstersOfBabylon1/Monsters_of_Babylon%281%29.pdf
https://files.catbox.moe/5lkw8r.torrent
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>>41898186
Interesting stuff. Might add some links to the OP.
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>>41879927
I watched a video talking about an scp that makes you feel everything that happens to your body after you die. Your body decomposing, worms crawling on you, etc. That's scary and all, but is it any worse of a hell than being tortured like in Hellrasier or something? Having some beast slice your skin off or come up with increasingly disturbing ideas to torment you? I guess if you feel everything after death that's more psychologically hellish than physically, and there's less stimuli so you'd go crazy over time I would think. Both awful in their own ways.
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>>41879927
People from here will be around you in the afterlife organising space and charging you gods energy.
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>>41888507
Interesting. Because I've gone sooooo far into my future, it didn't make a contamination to me now. I must have so many lives and time it didn't make an issue. I've seen our local god die, our universe recreated with me and a team.
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>>41899457
And to rekink our universe back into realness, it's a team just like Jesus and the 12 disciples apart from it was mainly woman. We took 1/12 position outside the remains of the energy of our universe and one person after another (like clockwork) propelled inwards, so the energy circulated in binding force back in.
It was to do with if we wanted to keep this mind set going.
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>>41879927
My ideal afterlife these days is being able to learn and explore the cosmos. Never being able to run out of new things to discover and new places to visit and new people to meet and new things to experience.
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>>41899229
Yea, tbf he had more sources relating to the afterlife but i lost them.
Honestly that Tibetan anon has posted more helpful sources in his 3 months here then i have gotten from 3 years here
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>>41880659
It's not the open heart surgery you have to worry about. It's the cost of the surgery and all the healing afterwards if you make it through you have to worry about. Unless in your country healthcare is free or you have insurance. Either way healing from that is really shitty. Your ribs are literally split apart. So good luck being comfortable sleeping for a long fucking time. Hope you don't get hooked on pain meds either or get an infection. PS, you're going on a diet bro and you're gonna lose a shit ton of weight. Healing takes a long fucking time...but you could be dead so I guess you have no fucking choice right?
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Why is death deliberately made unpleasant? I adamantly believe that that there is more to life after death, its not an ending of you at all. But death in itself feels awful. Unless you can set up something that can 100% guarantee a flawless and painless death you get reservations. Even just regular discomfort like severe fatigue and feinting are bad enough, real serios shit like organ failure must be so worse. You can't for example just starve yourself or run out to the wilderness and die because the sheer fear of it holds you back. No matter how bad you want the afterlife the second you get close to discomfort you run back into your bed willing to do another day.

Do you think its like that on purpose? Some hard coded discomfort to dissuade as from taken a shortcut to death? Or do you think of the time is truly right for death all the discomfort would go away? I just want to be free from this world its not fair.
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>>41879927
Fang and I will be reunited at last
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>>41905823
It's a feature of your physical body. It wants to preserve itself.
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>>41905937
Anon I was just looking up Snoot Game...
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>>41905823
>Do you think its like that on purpose? Some hard coded discomfort to dissuade as from taken a shortcut to death?

Exactly this, I believe.
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>>41880659
this does not count as suicide. you will be okay. <3 God bless you.
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>>41905146
yes its the healing and pain im terrified of. i dont fear death from it or anything like that.
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>>41879927
What I feel is "correct" (I feel like I have contemplated Truth, but only a glimpse and not fully):
>"Self" that you experience now is tied to the mind.
>Dreams are 'interpretation' of existence outside of the body
>Dreams are, in this sense, a form of 'download' from the other side or the existence outside the body
>It has to be downloaded because of the nature that these forms of existence are in their own ways separate
>When the body dies, the mind goes with it.
>When the mind dies, the Self goes with it.
>Your experiences are tied to your Self and your life
>There is some form of process that takes 'some' of you and who you are but not 'all' of you

Then we get to where I'm currently trying to speculate further.
What is actually passed along to that other side? Why that over anything else? What are these pieces of experience for?
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>>41905937
how, she's not real
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>>41894189
what a fruitcake
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Prepare to die (dark souls deluxe edition), we only born to learn how to face these motherfucker "Archons". Read some Isabella A. Greene and Gnostic teachings (nag hammadi and apocryphal gospels).
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>>41907132
Yes she is
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>>41883448
I'm agnostic. The Tibetan/Gnostic stuff says avoiding the light and being comfortable in the darkness is good and you eventually become attuned. Some Egyptian stuff, I think, talks about how the abyss is a place where you rest before you for realzies move through the plane after this.

While oblivion scares me to death and I hope that's not true, the "abyss" usually is talked about being comforting and just awareness, with gentle beings sometimes being in them. Some NDEs talk about terrible panic realms where beings around them are "other" and fill them with dread.

I don't know if some anon was lying about his trip, but he took dmt or acid and some jesters were ripping bodies and screaming around him to fuck with him, and when it got so absurd he had to laugh and then they lost humor and started to mope away. Personally, unless the people who go to these panic realms and are interviewed about it are secretly fucked up in their personal lives, maybe infinity is a fucking big place and sometimes you get dropped in 4th dimensional Detroit before a bus comes by to pick you up.
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>>41894194
I'm just spitballing logic, but maybe when you die you rubberband back to a baseline of you. There feels like there's some sort of "lock" to us being here, like a dream. Like how in the dream you think you're you but you die in there and wake up. The reason you baseline is because you are at once this dream here but also your oversoul.

I'm an agnostic losing his mind but it's really strange that so many NDEs give you faith in a higher power.
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>>41879927
I believe the afterlife exists but it is not the sunshine and rainbows we have been led to believe. NDEs report mostly positive experiences where the deceased do not want to come back. However, its been theorized this might be a trick by NHIs (Non Human Intelligences). Then you have remote viewers who report different realms. Some realms are pleasent and peaceful while others are not. One that is not pleasant is the report of something that sounds like a 15 minute city where you have to get a job and bow to reptilians who rule the area.
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I just don't see the value of this life anymore, the afterlife seems better in every way
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>>41912471
I used to be an atheist, but now I'm a Gnostic.

Reincarnation is real, and the only way we can stop reincarnating infinitely forever is to reject it. They need your consent to wipe your mind and reincarnate you. And they are very manipulative in doing so. They will masquerade as religious figures or dead relatives to convince you to walk into the light. The only way you go somewhere other than Earth when you die is to not fall for their trick.

It is very obvious that this is the case because these same themes pop up in NDEs and psychadelic trips: "life reviews", "walking into the light", etc. And there are a few very young children who remember their past lives accurately.

What the 5D plane is like, I have no idea. But it's not this "u go to Heaven if ur a good boy and u go to Hell if ur a bad boy" thing, at least I don't think it is. Our 5D higher self already exists now, but it's basically trapped like in the Matrix wearing a headset perceiving our projected simulation 3D self as reality when it isn't.

But yeah, it's pretty crazy. 3D is an illusion. But so is 4D, since 4D after you die is where the Archons cycle souls back into the 3D. 5D is where you want to be. But most people are retarded NPCs who just follow organized religions which all are designed to keep you in permanent-reincarnation.

There is a reason why the Catholic Church has tried to suppress Gnostic thought. The organized religions do not want you to know this truth of reality because then it ruins their whole business model. People in power do NOT want you to know that your 5D higher self exists. They want to keep you as a good obedient slave in the trap.
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>>41917525
When I was young and in Catholic school, I questioned why we shouldn't just kill ourselves if Heaven is better than Hell. And now that I'm a Gnostic who believes the only way we escape reincarnation is by rejecting it when we die, it would also seem as though suicide would be better than staying here. But the thing is, I ultimately don't know for certain. So I'm just trying to make the most out of this videogame simulation we're in. When I die is when I can worry about it. I hope you feel better soon since I also struggle a lot with depression. I know this website shits on psych meds a lot, but they really can help and they've helped me a lot to be able to get out of negative thought spirals.
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>>41917525
Please keep on nonny.
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I meant to say "why we shouldn't just kill ourselves if Heaven is better than Earth" not "if Heaven is better than Hell" in my last reply
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>>41917637
There is a very real line of logic that whatever after this is nice. NDEs are true, Heaven, whatever, just that there IS an afterlife. So, logically, one of the few things that kind of rubs up against our free will is that as organisms we have a fear of death so we don't just blow our brains out because we didn't get a promotion at a job.
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No words are sufficient for anyone to describe the totality of what they may get up to after death, not to mention such things are intensely personal, undoubtedly that's why these threads die without much discussion.
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i wanna ride go karts and teleport and hit people with a quarterstaff when they try to read my mind
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>>41921712
t. Monkey King
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>>41921712
Based
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>>41879927
I had an experience that proves the existence of an after life.

My grandmother died and told me goodbye in a dream the same night she died.

I've also had a few paranormal experiences in the house I grew up in.

All this used to give me anxiety about death and evil spirits.

But I changed my thoughts, I realized if this happened, then there's more out there that we can't experience on this plane.

It gives me great piece of mind that none of this matters.

I laugh at people squandering over money, or their little problems. They're lost and need guidance.

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