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https://youtu.be/o3Xky4ril3Y?si=LcMrs9Qy-d1QYzH6
This YouTube video is probably the best at breaking down what happened and it's implications. If you want to skip the thread watch this then return.

THE FACTS:
>Spirits or entities can possess objects to communicate
>Anyone can do it
>The spirit inhabits the idea like spirits inhabit human bodies. Taking on history and memory according to belief
>The spirit is not actually bound by this entirely
>The alignment of the spirit and the difficulty in calling it depends on average emotional vibration of the room
>Playful silly mood with singing produces silly spirits and dancing objects.
> Extrapolate this how you will.

The experiment and simple and possible for anyone to do. The laws governing this universe are detailed in mystical texts. They are all clearly aligned and proven true. This is the ultimate test. It was preformed by an actual gaggle of nerdy goobers on live television multiple times. Repeated by other groups with their own spirits

Furthermore the spirits don't require the same people. If a spirit is brought to manifestation somewhere then anyone with the right information can call the spirit to another object. Not even the same. Just anything at all.

Gentlemen. We can create a physical spirit that can possess any object.

Any personality
Any alignment
Any object.

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The important part of this is that if a spirit can manipulate anything. And its memories or abilities are determined by the (shell) created by the group lore.

There is no reason why a spirit cannot be made that inhabits technology. Can interact with technology like any other seance object. And has a personality and disposition curated through communication and development.

The limitations of this are the imagination. A table flies around on live television and nobody bats an eye

But an ATM Drains 50 grand into the sidewalk because casper the friendly hacker ghost can apparently be roused by a discord call and some well placed objects to possess it and suddenly we have a functioning cheat code for reality.

The list of things to experiment
>How many people does it take to produce a physical manifestation ?
>Is is needed for multiple people to touch to share energy?
>Can a single person produce enough awareness and focus to cause the phenomena?
>Can the phenomena be triggered across great distances?
>What are the limits of the manipulation of the spirit?
>If the spirit is just using the vessal but not bound how to you get one perfectly aligned with your goals?

Questions people. We need to be asking questions.

>>41894647
>>41894683
>>41894751
The human soul is made of plasma.
Plasma is a medium for information.
Get enough plasma and imbue it with enough coherent information and it can become conscious and self aware, not unlike a digital AI.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B_2g5fpqskk

>>41894751
I need that ATM spirit-summoning method.

>>41894751
Well if you want to do experiment, have a tulpa created now. See if it can work with people not being physically present. The thread can be the seance. Casper the ATM helper is cool and funny as shit but that may be some higher level stuff. If Casper (or someone else) could start off smaller, say as a bringer of some inconsequential but specific circumstances, then anons could see if it works in a shorter amount of time.

>>41895401
The sun is made of plasma.

>>41894751
The table moved sure. Let’s assume it was some sort of parnormal activity. There’s no evidence anyone can control it at all.
They couldn’t make it do what they want reliably,if at all.
So the practical implications are not really there.
>But an ATM Drains 50 grand into the sidewalk because casper the friendly hacker ghost can apparently be roused by a discord call and some well placed objects to possess it and suddenly we have a functioning cheat code for reality.
You aren’t even at the move a coin around a desk one time level. Long way to go frog bro.

>>41896165
Well no ones a master immidiately. But perhaps trough practice.

Yeah good luck with that

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>>41895403
>>41895401
>>41896165

Anyone can cause the phenomena and the rules of causing the phenomena are simple there is even scaling to be presented. The rest is experimentation

>ZANGBETO VOODOO GUARDIAN
A kinda cute empty shell dressed up by the village to summon or invite night time guardian spirits. When the village is in it and the mood is right these things fly around and can spin like bey blades. The small ones can be clocked at 35mph as they run around.

Part of the ritual is the periodic revealing that there's no one inside. By flipping it. Now sometimes there is someone inside. That's just to keep the belief up because belief is a component. The ritual is done regardless of the right conditions because doing so creates them

This is important because the spirit sticks around after the show. The important part is that if you do properly summon one it lives in town for a while and stops petty crimes at night. Mostly through scaring or making noises. Whatever it can do

The reason I present all this knowledge as possibility to program a spirit is because I already know that spirits cannot fuck with places they don't vibe with. If you want a spirit who's a technomancer and willing to hack shit you have to create a lore and environment that conducts a strong enough spirit that is both not malicious and conniving and powerful enough to do shit. African voodoo relies on raw emotion and belief but it's inefficient. A great example but old.

>Phillip could knock on the table and move it
It was only a table because they were following the seance idea of a ghost. keeping the steps mostly the same despite the imaginary nature of Phillip.

They didn't have to use a table and a device prepared with noise making mechanisms and other easily manipulated internals would clearly yield a more talkative spirit as the damn thing would have the ability to communicate properly.

A ticker, a clock? A bell? A mouse?

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>>41896165
Phillip would get agitated if they went offscript for the history they gave him
I see it like this

>the lore creates the memories for the spirit and thus makes it predictable.

Phillip isn't real. So you can make a fake history and fake lore. And the ability of the spirit would depend on the lore.

Why not summon a technomancer from far into the future who's aligned with our goals? Or a spirit that enjoys unlocking doors? Or a spirit who always knew the lottery numbers? I just got the idea yesterday so I'm figuring out the limitations via research but eventually I WILL experiment on this on my own. I have enough people willing to try and I'm quite protected spiritually so there's no better anchor then myself.

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I'll be honest
This is also the only way to fuck succubi or other types of spirits.

You could probably imbue a fleshlight with a ravenous carnal feminine spirit if you had a group dedicated to not laughing about it and took it 100% serious. No longer being limited to already known egregores means the tulpa niggas and the succubus niggas are one fucking step away from creating a site wide spiritual STD. And I'm 99% certain that because the emotional and carnal spectrum vibrational exists. That there are an infinite number of compatible existences that would desperately want the chance to be imbued into a fleshlight or similar device and you'd only need to attune for that.

I'm pretty sure this is how it's supposed to be done in the first place. Like I don't know what's happening over on the succubus threads but they aren't summoning spirits and controlling the vibe to ensure they get the right ones I don't know what they're doing.

>>41896165
Also as stated in the spirit book and voodoo practitioners. Using playful and silly moods to get a spirit is the easiest because they always show up. But they like fae are prone to trickery and childlike antics. They can fuck shit up because you called for the silly spirits.

To get stronger and more serious spirits you need a better conductive atmosphere
Basically Philip could have appeared and been a philosopher with ancient wisdom but because it was 10 British goobotrons just doing shit they got Philip the beer and women loving table.

>>41897233
Thank you for making a good thread, i have never considered the zangbeto spirits as a manifestation of tulpa magic, All this info just proves that warhammer 40k had it right with orks and how their tech works. I think also the Berserk manga had something similiar in their magic system. This also reminds me of a thread where someone was saying that aliens could fuck with humans just by convincing them that they are sick and it would slowly start to really happen.

>>41896157
Yes. Yes it is.

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>>41898475
I'm so fucking glad you see what I'm getting at here. The methods to defend oneself from negative or misaligned spirits is already well known at least to me thanks to this info. So the only risk is in the competency of the seance group. I'm already 10 memes ahead of everyone apparently but the implications are so stark and so obvious.

Ah to prove you can defend against spirits. Your consistent emotional vibration is the key. You technically are possessing your body but the connection is made by whatever you wanna call God. It's perfect. Nothing can take control or influence you directly.

First they have to get you on their vibe. Negative spirits literally cannot exist within positive vibes and vice versa. And the most positive vibe is peace and sovereignty. Which, like the starchild in 40k just utterly wrecks anything that opposes that. The condition is the desire not to bring harm to anything. Fighting is engaging. Peace is enough.

To change this they try to latch onto momentary moments of weakness. Anger is obvious. A moment turns into a storm consuming many. That's the mundane effects of a truly malicious spirit. A single person with awareness could cut it off at the source by changing someone's mind.

In short I'm gonna have to refine the thread and make a general. I'm thinking of using the words of the researchers.

autonomous psychical phenomena? I'm sure I can make a good acronym or something once I get shit sorted.

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>>41895403
The method is already described. The only thing they had to do to make Philip be real was decide on his history and touch a table while calling his name and being playful.

This means any object at any time can become a vessel. This shit is probably happening by accident all the time. But it seems some level of specific group focus is required at least that's been the case.

But these researchers knew almost nothing. They don't have our context. Our knowledge. They quite simply didn't know.

And the ones who created the next generation of this experiment were uninspired and using mundane angles. I almost felt bad for the spirit as I read the interactions

Can you imagine if this shit can be min maxed? Do 5 goobers on a voice call meet the requirements? Can we create a spirit or call a spirit of ai itself? Of the internet? Nigga
>CAN WE ALL LOVE LAIN?

can you and 3 passengers in a car summon a spirit of the crossing light to turn the fucking light green?

Can you go to a casino and I'mbue machines with spirits of generosity and abundance using the atmosphere as a catalyst and yourselves, the practitioners, and the object as the focus?

The implications are beyond mortal understanding. We could be looking at the recruitment of imaginary forces into the playing field. We could be opening pandoras fucking box. The veil itself depends on the outcome of this fucking thread. We on the same page?

>>41894647
Larp until evidence provided. In the meantime I'm sticking with Jesus' word on their existence (irrespective of what they may be):

"¶ And as they thus spake, Jesus himself stood in the midst of them, and saith unto them, Peace be unto you. But they were terrified and affrighted, and supposed that they had seen a spirit. And he said unto them, Why are ye troubled? and why do thoughts arise in your hearts? Behold my hands and my feet, that it is I myself: handle me, and see; for a spirit hath not flesh and bones, as ye see me have. " (Luke 24:36-39)

>>41899203
Fuck off Christcuck.

>>41898813
This also works for Jesus and Christian god, we manifest them by believing in them make them real [spoiler] and all reality [/spoiler]

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>>41898753
With regards to using technology there are tech priests already using green corn puffs called kuai kuai to make the tech "work well and be obedient" in Taiwan.Maybe red really makes things go faster too. Making this a general would be good if put a positive spin to it to balance all the succubus threads. If negative spirits cant exist within positive vibes, then positive spirits should not tolerate negative vibes. This means that succubus summoning will always come back to fuck you over due to your own vibes being made out of desperation, lust etc. On the other hand group healing should also be possible, i know that in the US they used suggestions and a broken MRi machine with bluetooth speakers taped inside of it to heal adults and children. Adults needed more convincing at first but the effects were the same.
>>41899203
This quote fits this thread a little better
Jesus said to them, Because of your unbelief; for truly I say to you, If there is faith in you even as a grain of mustard, you will say to this mountain, move away from here, and it will move away; and nothing would prevail over you. (Matthew 17:20)

>>41895401
>>41896157
>>41894647
It's not plasma. It's twisted Aether that hasn't fully manifested as electricity. Many people coming together in thought are altering Aetheric conditions until their coinciding alterations eventually self stabilize into a harmonic dynamic equilibrium in the case of a persistent entity. That entity they made very well may still be out there somewhere.

Very common in history. Groups of 6-12 work best. They all have to be in the correct mind state to make it work. And yes, the "atm pk" has already been done, but with casinos instead. Success was wild. ATMs probably won't work due to their ridiculous complexity and multiple required success conditions, but casinos have very few failure points that were exploited.

Using ESP to bias physical dice rolls. Hacking RNG and even pseudo RNG on slot machines. Intuitively knowing the next cards to be drawn. And probably a ton more. It worked very well. They were thrown out of at least 5 casinos. They were able to keep playing in the 6th one and still regularly visit to make cash.

https://youtu.be/D_ffaoZ8Dbs

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>>41894647
Wait, this is actually a useful form of tulpa, I always made fun of them in favor of working with "real" spirits but this actually makes sense too. Can't we abuse this? What if we started making spirits intent on gathering energy or improving their spirits with a final purpose of wishing to give us their gains? Can we cheese spiritual and psychic development by offloading it to spirits to work on it while we also do so, twice the gains for half the effort? What about making an egregore whose only purpose is to be an energy bank or liaison for other spirits or tasks that loves nothing more than to make everyone better off its own efforts?

>shared belief plus narrative coherence equals apparent agency

Jesus said to them, “Because of your unbelief. For truly I say to you, if you have faith as a grain of mustard seed, you will say to this mountain, ‘Move from here to there,’ and it will move. And nothing will be impossible for you.

>>41900701
>This quote fits this thread a little better
Not really. The context is power explicitly given of God to early church saints to perform miracles which were required under the law in order for God establish His word before Israel. After the second rejection of Jesus the Messiah in the book of Acts, the gospel goes straight to the gentiles, and the requirement for miracles is no longer there so they vanish away competely before the canon of scripture is even completed.

By the time the experiment happened, even if they were all christians this wouldn't have worked out at all.

What I believe they did (assuming the accounts are true) was stirr up a devil (aka familiar spirit) who saw an opportunity to impersonate the fake character they created just to drive people away from the truth of God.

>>41901901
if there is a way to stirr up a familiar spirit that is negative, then there should be a way to get a positive spirit like an angel to do the same. If the requirement for miracles is no longer there does it mean that miracles can no longer happen?

>>41900701
>>41900722
>>41900861

All saved. I'll have the general up today by 6pm or missing the hot times tmr at 12pm. Kuai kuai is getting throne in there. Any and all examples of tech based PK. All examples of tulpamancy.

I will be unifying this with the manifestation shit as it seems to all work together under the same principles.

>>41902230
>if there is a way to stirr up a familiar spirit that is negative, then there should be a way to get a positive spirit like an angel to do the same.
Consider the following:

"What is man, that thou art mindful of him? and the son of man, that thou visitest him? For thou hast made him a little lower than the angels, and hast crowned him with glory and honour. " (Psalms 8:4-5)

"For this cause ought the woman to have power on her head because of the angels. " (1 Corinthians 11:10)

"Behold, he put no trust in his servants; and his angels he charged with folly: " (Job 4:18)

"For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast them down to hell, and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment; " (2 Peter 2:4)

Not a good idea to be contacting angels who ultimately are not that different from us. Isn't the Lord Jesus Christ (God Himself no less) good enough for you?

>If the requirement for miracles is no longer there does it mean that miracles can no longer happen?
Not at all. Miracles still happen today all the time, but they are actuated by God directly on his own accord (as opposed to by proxy and on demand by a believer) and are not flashy events for public consumption.

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>>41902304
Ok so all the archangels, the whole hierarchy of seraphim and so on is just larping and it is useless when you can just go to Jesus Christ? This would make the saints pretty pointless too

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>>41900754
So far the limitations on the spirit are the limitations on the one summoning them.

It's like this. We humans are spirits within bodies. We forget that. So when you make a lore and vessal for a spirit you are making a body and mind essentially. And the alignment of the space and vessal determines what can be put inside. So if you don't want orgoloth the ballsploder you need to ensure you don't create a vessal in which that nigga can appear.

Failing that spirits can't really harm people. Not the weak ones. They can influence emotions at best. Super strong spirits arnt getting called by us anyway. Unless there's some advanced fuckers here with intentions.

>>41902367
>Ok so all the archangels, the whole hierarchy of seraphim and so on is just larping and it is useless
The heirarchy exists, but they're all creatures designed for a specific purpose, and that purpose isn't being your furby.

>when you can just go to Jesus Christ?
Correct.

>This would make the saints pretty pointless too
Correct. Dead saints are in heaven awaiting resurrection and can't do anything for you.

>>41895887
That's the goal senpai. This is just the acknowledgement.

>>41902373
I would say that the intention of the ones summoning is important but what happens when you use animals as a sacrifice? Besides the fact you are going to the negative spirits

>>41902401
So praying to God or Jesus Christ is just a preference then if you are a christian? I also assume using Lord before praying makes it better because you acknowledge the personal relationship while humbling yourself.

>>41902441
>So praying to God or Jesus Christ is just a preference then if you are a christian?
Why would you even say that? If you're not praying to God, you're praying to devils.

"For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus; Who gave himself a ransom for all, to be testified in due time. " (1 Timothy 2:5-6)

>I also assume using Lord before praying makes it better because you acknowledge the personal relationship while humbling yourself.
I use it myself, but the humbling has got to be real. God's not taking no lip service.

>>41899203
lmao behold feet, footfag