Inaccurate. It's just an observable fact that the natural and social world are organized in such a way that our lives resemble the Hotel California song.

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>>41902869
>So you're telling me God wants us to suffer?
Fundamentally...yes.

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>>41902967
Yeah I wonder who that could be...

>>41902869
He wants you to get saved so that your suffering may have an end when you die.

>>41902988
nta
>your suffering may have an end when you die
Why is he not liberating everyone now?

>>41903028
You have a mission to fulfill and God wants you to fulfill it (which you can't do if you're dead and resting in heaven), and that's for your own good, for a tighter relationship with Him, for your spiritual growth, for recompense in the life to come.

There's a plan and that plan includes people having a bad time because that's the cause and effect of sin and there's no escaping that here on earth before the millennial reign.

>>41903078
>kids are getting raped until they die because that is the mission and plan God gave them

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>>41902869
>Lucifer (then fallen to Lucifuge), was simply the highest ranking among the quasi-divine beings in the cohorts of the Tenth Divine Entity who chose to follow the dictate of the evil image and who continued to feed it with their will, that in consequence became less and less free and more and more in bondage to the manifest Abhorrence. The process of our universe then became a long-drawn out and cycling one of fractional re-distillation, recovering closely and bit by bit, entity by entity, the beings who had first chosen the Image of Evil as their guide to action, and then re-chosen Love. Meantime, the acts of horror continue in an ecology now turned overwhelmingly predatory from originally symbiotic. For to intervene and stop even one such unjust act, requires, by the law of justice itself, stopping them all. But that would speedily bring our world to a sudden end, and many beings would have lost the chance to reconsider and re-do.

>For their sake this cosmic system of school-cum-incarceration is continued until the point where the suffering of the just would accomplish no more good for either themselves or the unjust.

https://youtu.be/hIrTzZUrczc

>>41903078
>You have a mission to fulfill
>There's a plan and that plan includes people having a bad time
>there's no escaping that here on earth
That logicaly concludes to:
>God wants us to suffer
If you know what I mean.

>>41903083
Not at all. God does not have a mission of evil for anybody. Suffering is a fact of life because men's hearts are evil and we're all corrupt and wretched. Death and all these horrible things are the result of sin.

God appointed a time when He will step in to put an end to it all and that's it. You can't do it yourself or pressure God into doing it sooner. You don't like it? well tough shit boy, I don't either, but God is holy, good and perfect and His choices are infinitely better than anybody else's no matter how lil sense they make to our lil brains.

>>41903132
Why is God not helping kids who get raped even though he could btw?

Would you be okay if your friend watched your daughter get raped without helping or calling the police because he "respects the free will of the criminal rapist"?

>>41903132
>God does not have a mission of evil for anybody.
>Suffering is a fact of life because men's hearts are evil
So did God messed up the creation of humans?

>>41902869
God hates me and I'm deeply convinced that he does his best to make my life a living hell. But I'll tell you what, that cunt can go fuck himself because he can't even do it correctly.

>>41903158
>Why is God not helping kids who get raped even though he could btw?
Again, not happening until the Millennial reign. Most you can do is obey so that things go better for everybody.

>Would you be okay if your friend watched your daughter get raped without helping or calling the police because he "respects the free will of the criminal rapist"?
Nope. You have a commandment from God to step in and help just as He will when the time appointed is come.

>>41903187
"God" (the Demiurge) is totally indifferent about you. He just has created a cosmic system that makes life painful for humans. You're not the only one who's suffering.

>>41903168
>So did God messed up the creation of humans?
Nope. Humans messed up by trusting the devil rather than God, and that's what this whole mess is all about. God did not create robots; all His creatures have a choice to obey or disobey, and both have consequences.

>>41903227
>Humans messed up by trusting the devil rather than God
So did God messed up the creation of the devil?

>>41903203
>Again, not happening until the Millennial reign.
I asked why. Why is God who is totally good and nice not helping when he can?

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here for your daily reminder that the problem of evil cannot be solved under any traditional Abrahamic tradition.

>>41902869
Yes, he's even merciful enough to make this little trial before glory limited to only 100 years max which is nothing compared to infinity

>>41903278
Because he's reserved complete intervetion until the Millennial reign, and if He so did, he's not going to contradict himself. In the meantime we are responsible for what happens here, and He has given us the tools to be as effective as possible in resisting evil, but most people are God-hating retards who die rejecting salvation and thus are never used of God for any gooddoing.

A father is not responsible for the outcomes of his children's actions. People need to own up to their own mess.

>>41903158
>>41903278
You can think logically and morally even while believing in god. It is clear that the Universe and the Earth were not made with your feelings in mind and that, in the grand scheme of things, you are of no consequence whatsoever. God is more like the basic belief that regardless of this, there is still some force, some statistical likelihood, some tendency for things to go right. Something that could be described as a being that watches over you. Of course, this doesn't mean your problems will go away by themselves. It just means that you'll be okay even if you mess up a little.

>>41902869

Enlightened Christian Buddha here.

Basically, here's how enlightenment works:
1) God is smarter than you and is powerful enough to make anything happen or not happen.
2) God is gooder than you.
3) Since 1 and 2 are true, whatever happens to you is the best possible outcome.
4) Suffering occurs when you do not know this and being wrong "argue with God" by not liking something, and so you suffer.

Make sense?
There you go, now throw in heaven being internal Biblically and God being within you and the world being perfect and you have it, Nirvana, you're welcome.

>>41902869
God wants us to learn lessons, it’s up to us whether we want to learn or not and how much effort we’re willing to put into learning

>>41903335
>Suffering occurs when you do not know this and being wrong "argue with God" by not liking something, and so you suffer.
:D
Just like your vaxx cancer, dumb mortal.

>>41903335
I'm going to fuck your mother and you are going to like it because God made it happen.

>>41903078
Fulfill deez nuts in your mouth.
BRAAAP BRAAAP BRAAAP
*African Guy Voice* bitchass mudda fuckah

>>41902869
yes. but .. to be fair... man probably deserves it and man himself has devised more evil hells than God has. what God's up to is tame by our standards.

>>41903405
>Hey look at me I'm so edgy but I can't say nigger
kys

>>41903369

I already piped your mom but she look just like a manatee so I moved on to your granny, then I hit the whole family (that's a tragedy)

>>41903357

Imagine letting the vaxx give you cancer. How low is your power level?

>>41902988
If that's so then what won't he do anything at all to show us he's real?
>>41903325
>A father is not responsible for the outcomes of his children's actions.
A father who abandons his children is at least partially to blame for how they turn out.

maybe, whats the problem?..we're basically indestructible

>>41903208
Normies seem to have pretty good lives though, those of us who are suffering are the exception not the norm.

>>41903675
>If that's so then what won't he do anything at all to show us he's real?
Look at creation and fulfilled biblical prophecy. It takes a literal retard to disregard that as anything but God's work.

>A father who abandons his children is at least partially to blame for how they turn out.
Which's not the case here as He's given us a big fat 66 book guide to everything related to life, and is constantly watching and telling us to get in contact with Him.

>>41903768
>Which's not the case here as He's given us a big fat 66 book guide to everything related to life, and is constantly watching and telling us to get in contact with Him.
There's no more evidence that your religion's book is true than any other's and he doesn't respond to any attempts to contact him, believe me I've tried.

>>41903946
You have to deal with fulfilled biblical prophecy. That's what seals the bible as the word of God.

Also, how did you try to contact Him? There's a right way and many wrong ways.

>>41902869
If you've never suffered, how could you get close to GOD and understand?

>>41903675

God hasn't abandoned you. You've abandoned God. Things happen for you, not to you.

>>41902869
it's circular
mundanity boredom indulgence relief unhappiness self-discipline happiness

>>41903078
>plan status: trusted
2 more weeks be upon you and yours, fren.

>>41903227
I wasn't there to do shit. Your priests and rabbis fuck kids and then get shuffled around with no punishment.
God sounds like the ultimate boomer, always refusing to take responsibility for what he did while insisting that you should.

>>41903313
The thing is that the burden of proof is on you when you make fantastic and whimsical claims.

>>41902869
Yee-Haw makes me nauseous

>>41903446
omniscient, omnipresent and omnipotent.
getting real sick of your bullshit.

>>41905008
Good thing Omnibenevolent is not a word. Three O's. Period.

>>41902869
trust the plan

>>41905012
So OP is correct

>>41902869
I think peace is achievable without suffering, but we live in a realm where suffering is often experienced to understand peace

>>41905019
God is the biggest piece of shit, I've never encountered a more subterranean, conniving, fool.

>>41903471
Lol, African Guy is a type of Nigger.
Like Jews, or Irish guys from Boston

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>>41902869
>uh of course not!

>>41902938
ahh that sucks

>>41903739
people are fucking nuts and find any way to suffer they can

>>41902869
Probably. Ever noticed that people who've had it easy all the time suck to hangout with? I bet God agrees.

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>>41904043
>You have to deal with fulfilled biblical prophecy.
Jews are going to build back the temple, offer sacrafices, and fire will fall from heaven. What will you think of Jesus then?
>Abombination that makes desolate
He literally tells you to take all your sin, all your SHIT, and throw it at him. Daniel mentions a resurrection too. You want to be some celestial transvestite married with that body of sin? That is what that patchwork "word of God" says. Its the devil's book, """"GOD"""" sent Jesus as a punishment, don't you see that? He's the king of Greece who wanted to be the golden head.

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>>41902869
Ialdabaoth is no "God" of mine.

>>41902869
God wants me to suffer. He wants me to get open heart surgery. i cant face such a barbaric thing and i shouldnt be expected to. just because something is medically possible doesnt mean it should be done.

Start with seeing the commonality.
AGni
ANGger
ANGuish etc.
It's about bring out the spiritual fire through suffering.
Like making a diamond. Intense pressure and heat.

>>41907310

PG version of "God goosh gooshes me daily".

>>41907358
I didn't bother with that parasite thread.

>>41907310
So you're just gonna die then? At least you'll stop posting about this in every thread.

>>41904043
>Also, how did you try to contact Him?
Prayer.
>>41904178
I can't abandon someone who was never there to begin with.

What you perceive to be suffering is a personal coloring of the machinations of the universe. If you kick a rock and break your toe that is nothing but a chain of action -> reaction that operates according to perfectly sensible and logical causal principles. You don't ultimately like the sensations involved in having a broken toe, but simultaneously you also can't blame anybody else for it (including God).

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“Your honor, in his defense it was all fake and gay”

>>41907480
i want to but im scared to let go incase God sends me to hell for not getting surgery. im in fluid overload and holding it back so i can survive longer.

>>41907507
Blaming my problems on things I hate gives me a reason to be motivated. I will hate things that you think are fine and there is nothing you can do about it.

>>41902869
It's individualized to suit how much suffering you can handle, his doctrine is there to protect you from yourself and avoid unnecessary spiritual suffering that comes from envying others, greedily coveting material things, getting corrupted by hatred of other people, getting STDs from fornication, being spiritually corrupted by congregating with people who practice sin and ruining relationships due to stubborn pride