>>41910631
hahahahahahahahaha

>>41910631
There's no time in the afterlife according to near death experiences. And even biological immortality won't prevent death through murder or being thrown into the sun, so eventually everyone returns. And to the afterlife souls it just felt like a blink.

we already are immortal. most people just don't get that.

WAKE UP. WAKE UP. WAKE UP

YOU ARE THE YOUNIVERSE~~~~

>>41910631
If it became available then most people wouldn't have access to it anyways, so it's not as if death's workload will have been lessened by any meaningful degree. Even still, the oldest biologically immortal organism is ~200 years old iirc, a shark in Greenland. Notably, that isn't even a millennia. For it to be the oldest biologically immortal organism, other biologically "immortal" organisms have to die. Eventually it just becomes a matter of probability. Even if we were biologically immortal, we would still die from things that don't have anything to do with aging.

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>>41910631
i imagine the hotel rates will go down and the exchange rates will get better. fine place on holiday for me and me misses simple as

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>>41910631
The Sun will make Earth uninhabitable in approximately 1 billion years as increasing luminosity causes oceans to evaporate. Within 5–7.5 billion years, the Sun will expand into a red giant and likely engulf or scorch the planet, finalizing the destruction of all life.
1 Billion Years (Uninhabitable): The Sun’s brightness is increasing, and in about a billion years, it will be 10% more luminous, heating Earth enough to trigger a runaway greenhouse effect that boils the oceans.
5-7.6 Billion Years (Destruction): After running out of fuel, the Sun will expand into a red giant. It will likely engulf Earth entirely, incinerating the planet, or at least scorching it to a molten, barren rock.

>>41910631
Biological immortality is impossible. Even if you manage to cure all the diseases associated with aging, statistically you'd eventually be killed in some manner or another. Even if you upload your consciousness to a computer, the computer will eventually be destroyed, the cloud will eventually be destroyed.

There is no dead that can eternal lay,
In strange aeons, even death will die.

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>>41910631
You won't achieve biological immortality.

https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/ted-kaczynski-the-techies-wet-dreams

> The same applies to the hypothesized survival of human minds in "uploaded" form inside machines. The uploaded minds will not be tolerated indefinitely unless they remain useful (that is, more useful than any substitutes not derived from human beings), and in order to remain useful they will have to be transformed until they no longer have anything in common with the human minds that exist today.

> Some techies may consider this acceptable. But their dream of immortality is illusory nonetheless. Competition for survival among entities derived from human beings (whether man-machine hybrids, purely artificial entities evolved from such hybrids, or human minds uploaded into machines), as well as competition between human-derived entities and those machines or other entities that are not derived from human beings, will lead to the elimination of all but some minute percentage of all the entities involved. This has nothing to do with any specific traits of human beings or of their machines; it is a general principle of evolution through natural selection. Look at biological evolution: Of all the species that have ever existed on Earth, only some tiny percentage have direct descendants that are still alive today. On the basis of this principle alone, and even discounting everything else we've said in this chapter, the chances that any given techie will survive indefinitely are minute.

>>41911365
i'd hate to be a virgin transhuman. being posthuman looks cooler cause you can have any body you please.

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>>41910631
People will still only live to about 200 on average before some freak accident gets them. Unless you make people totally invincible, which is impossible by any scientific measure than people will die it will just take a while longer.

>>41910782
I've experienced this as an objective reality but what of NDE's? this is the paradox I can't get over, why "quantum immortality" or "eternal recurrence" for some and an actual afterlife for others?

>>41911608
your "life" is a dream

you cannot be anywhere but the present.

>>41911625
it sure seems that way, but the NDE crowd can't all be lying. or is it just semi-solipsistic fuckery where the dream is just providing more information to keep you believing in a final death? idk

>>41911608
Either NDEs are 90% real with the grey area being untestable on this plane or they are 0%. If they are real, is it not possible that different souls have different things going on? A soul that experiences eternal reoccurence was always meant to. To higher beings it is a "evergreen tree." Some people walk with family forever in bliss. Some people are adventurers that keep coming back for challenge? Is it not possible just because we are similar at this basest of levels, that the ways spirits look different with their different dimensions which are probably more than even 4th which we can't see, the smallest difference is more than even our current reality can handle?

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>>41910777
Digits of truth

>>41910631
I wouldn't worry about it, if we ever achieve immortality, it will be reserved for elites only, goyim will still go to the afterlife.

>>41910631
Then people would die of accidents Anon. Not like they can stop a meteor or slipping on a banana peel and breaking their neck.

this demiurge simulation is doomed to entropy regardless

also unless you can have a youthful healthy body that kind of immortality is probably going to suck and all you have to look forward to is wageslaving for billionaires who eat **** on weird islands on this planet anyway

world peace because the dead wont be bothered.

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>>41910631
Perhaps you already died many moons ago and its just your current memory right now thinking that the old conciseness is still alive.

>>41913195
>this demiurge simulation is doomed to entropy regardless
And when it all falls apart life will spring again to rebuild

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>>41911376
The problem is that the posthuman won't be "you".

>>41910777
Trips on this is wild and exciting

>>41913812
that guy was always unfunny

>>41911212
This is why we work to become an interstellar species

>>41911212
This is what I am afraid of.
The clock is ticking, it's already been ~16 billion years.

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the afterlife is gonna come after your life, that's what

>>41910631
What do you think will happen to your consciousness and your free will if you achieve biological immortaility?

Do you think TPTB will let you remain in control of your body? Wow that kind of pride and naivety will be your downfall.

>>41910631
The change in exoskeleton would change the soul shape. And it wouldn't be allowed to travel with us beyond this universe. It would die with the universe.
Though I talked with one creature and they were naturally created in the universe, they were really close to humanoid but with shell on their back. They made it with us to the end of the universe. I studied with them and it was a connection with the depths of the ocean.