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Does /xs/ prefer step or strap on bindings? Do step ons work in deep powder?
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>TFW the money grubbing jews at Vail won't pay their employees so I can't fucking go snowboarding
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>>218920
>snowboard all day
>play miku game all night
i love japan bros
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>>218920
I bought clickers and had no idea what to expect as I'm a noob to the sport. I thought they were just what everyone used but so far I've seen no one else with them. No complaints about them, but my boots are old as shit apparently and the straps broke off. Thinking about just getting conventional bindings and not having broken gear
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>>219162
build a kaczynski shack in the trees at the top of the mountain; But You will have to evade the vail corporate ski death squads that patrol the mountains.
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>>219490
dope smoker classic
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I went from being a heel side hero to a toe side hero. But at least I had the balls to go straight a bit too. I need to intentionally practice turns next time. Whenever I try it I devolve into spinning heel toe heel toe until I get dizzy
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>go snowboarding on Saturday
>immediately get hooked
>go to board shop on Sunday and buy $1600 worth of gear
>try out new board on Monday (Capita DOA)
>get absolutely fucking banged up because new board is much faster and sensitive than the rental I used on Saturday
>left ass cheek incredibly sore
>right quad is incredibly sore
>right shoulder incredibly sore
>can barely sit down properly
I want to buy pic related. Anyone use them? I'm in Ohio, and our ski resorts are basically hard icey with a thin layer of snow. Felt like I was falling on slightly softer concrete.
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>>220103
Take it easy and stay upright by any means necessary, those pads aren't going to save you. You also probably should have gotten comfortable on the rental before going to a whole different setup. Rental boards are typically very flexy and forgiving for the n00bs, stiffer boards like the DOA much less so.
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>>220117
I assumed it would be smarter to buy my own gear ASAP so I could learn faster via a consistent setup.
My friend taught me how to carve to slow down though, which will help me. I was riding flat and going really fast down hills and crashing at the bottom. Basically, I was riding like a fucking dumbass.
So moving forward, I will fall much less, or at least my falls will be less gnarly.
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I seriously need to get to the mountain in the morning or ask for work to change my schedule so i can avoid school ski club nights. Every fucking time I've been hit while snowboarding it's been some kid on skis going down the mountain like a missle and not watching where they're going.
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LFG (Colorado) Ikon Pass must have beacon, probe, shovel, whistle, gopro. Can ride weekdays/weekends. Exclusively 2x black EX terrain & hike-back.
I was dropping 25' cliffs and starting slides on unstable slopes yesterday and I'm done doing it without a partner. I want someone to find my body.
Reply w your favorite access gate and I'll drop a burner e-mail.
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>>222563
Taught many females to snowboard. Made some of them cry in my younger days. Some of them still get season passes.
My advice: all your advice is bad advice.
-Remind her to bend her knees and distribute weight evenly, if only so that she doesn't fall as far
-Let her practice spinning from heel to toe and toe to heel down a green/easy blue
-On a steeper blue, have her cross all the way across the run the execute a single turn
-Nobody likes to feel like they are going too fast, so encourage her to actually turn uphill and make the transition at 2mph
-Once you can make one turn you can link all of them
-Just don't yell at yo bitch
>babe, let's just call it a day and get you some hot cocoa. you'll figure it out, don't worry. ha, no, you didn't ruin my day, i'm just glad you're here.
btw I hate all beginners and hope you both break bones
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>>222567
She actually is ruining my day. Finally getting powder in Oregon and I’m stuck on the green all day.
Then she put me in the “all I can offer you is friendship” zone the day after I paid for the tickets
>wanna blow my top smooth off
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>>220178
Alright, I went out a couple more times. I learned to use both edges and now I can carve somewhat, skid brake to allow merging when trails meet, and I rode blue trails all day, and would only fall about once per trail (on average).
I fuckin love snowboarding now, bros.
I'm 28, and the huge amount of hot high school girls makes me feel weird though.
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>>222780
Anon, stop being an edgy doomer. That won't get you laid. What you need to do is figure out if she's even into you. If she's not, then drop her and find another grill. Life is too short to orbit women that don't actually want you.
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whats a good album to listen to while snowboarding next weekend? I will be high and drunk btw
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>>218920
I don't like step ons. I was just at Mt Hood and tried them for the first time. Fresh powder was sticking to it like bubble gum and it was annoying having to swipe it off my boots every time I needed to step in.
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It's my 2nd season, I am finally making some deep carved turns with razor thin lines on red/blue/green slopes.
I am also now starting to be able to navigate in between trees, hitting side cuts and slowly becoming comfortable with being airborne and sticking my landings, though I only land on my heel side because my ankles are kind of fucked.
I have these old bindings with thick foam straps. All the new ones seem to have that webbed plastic strap instead.
I'm wondering if switching to a new one will help improve my toe side feel/response? There is definitely a lot of play/cushion with the foam straps and I always kind of have to exaggerate my movements when I'm doing anything toe side. It's very noticeable when initiating toe side turns.
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If anyone in the US is looking for a good deal on gear, Curated is having a going out of business sale so you can get some good stuff pretty cheap.
>>223581
Turns out this was a huge mistake and I strained my left hip flexor pretty bad. Heed my warning and always make sure to adjust your stance properly before trying something new.
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>>219225
IT KEEPS FUCKING SNOWING
>>225447
>all year
technically yes but it really strains the definition of riding and the effort you will have to exert for not very much poor quality snow by like, june makes it really not worth it.
there a a couple of places like copper and buttermilk that build a psuedo-glacier for park kids but even that is highly weather dependent. if it gets too hot for even a week, that shit is just gone.
otoh, we do sometimes get really good years where the snow just doesn't run out. 2 years ago we were getting full on big mountain powder days through may and front range resorts were open like a week into june.
preseason sometimes we get lucky as well but you really want a rock board for that.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dnkIJ95Ijyw
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>>225463
the flipside of that is last year where the snow just never really showed up and it was rock & ice skiing all the way from november until the spring. idk what this year is like because i'm not there but the reports i've gotten from home haven't been inspiring, we got an absurd early season deep day in november though (possibly the most snow i've ever seen from one storm)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SRB-BXFkzOU&t=
but then it didn't snow again until after christmas, which is colorado in a nutshell; you can get very big storms but they are surrounded by long periods of nothing. it truly is a case of YMMV
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Should I remove the bindings from my board for storage until next season?
>>218920
I'm a total noob, but I've fallen for the Flow step-in bindings.
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>>226356
you could get really into trampoline training or get a jib board. if cost of living keeps staying fucked in america i'm very seriously considering fucking off to argentina or chile all summer for southern hemisphere winter
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>>218920
Got some step on's and am going to have fun on thursday. :)
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>>226670
It's thursday and I'm having fun.
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>>226950
I've gotten back into boarding at the end of this season after a number of years out of it and have been browsing some snowboard talk online. I've been seeing a ton of hate for flying v boards, usually with no reasons attached, though I've hard peoppe say it's very forgiving. I have a flying v process, though with almost no perspective on other camber types. I plan to rent a camber board on monday to get a feel for it. I'm still beginer/intermediate and most prefer carving on mild groomed runs. Should I even be thinking about this until I'm more experienced, or should I get off this camber type early so I don't learn to rely on it's "forgiving" nature.
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I love whiteness
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>>227027
the only thing that should actually define a 'beginner snowboard' is budget and maybe secondarily the terrain you expect to be riding.
on smaller resorts/ jib parks i think skate banana/flying v etc would be a lot of fun. a lot of the places i rode this winter would have been prefect for flying v. on ice coast/rocky mountains/alps they can still be fun but you will run into the limitations of a loose board more often
>most prefer carving
go with camber.
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hate having things in my pockets on the resort so I was thinking of getting a backpack but I have a feeling I will hate riding with a backpack too. any backpack enjoyers have any opinions?
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>>227152
A number of years ago I went splitboarding with a backpack and it was very jarring at first, though it was a very big pack. Something smaller than a normal school bag shouldn't be very noticable.
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>>227152
you can get used to the feeling pretty quickly and there's usually a place you can stash it. i basically only wear it on the hike up and the last run of the day.
the biggest benefit though is that you can strap your board/ boots/helmet to the pack which makes travel on/off the mountain much nicer
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Should I wax my snow surfer?
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Anyone riding mammoth? I work as a lifty on backside come say wadup
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>>220093
More weight on the front foot. Think about the way you're rotating your body and the effect that it has on the board. Get some videos of you snowboarding and compare it to someone with a higher turn performance.
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3 months to go, local resort opening last week of December. Early bird rate season passes go on sale next month.
3 seasons I've been riding cheapo Salomon boots and bindings.
Christmas came early and I got myself some post season sale stuff, 24-25 Nidecker Index and 24-25 Now/Yes Drive. Sold my old Korua Otto and replacing it with the Cafe Racer, first time I'm changing my setup and I'm changing it big time.
Anyone else have the Now/Yes bindings with skaketech? Does it actually feel different or is it one big meme?
Also, what are you homos excited for this season?
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>>218920
Step-ons are for rich middle-age casuals that think bending down and strapping in is what holds them back from snowboarding
And no they absolutely don't work in powder
No chance getting back in once you're in somewhat deep snow because there's no resistance against the ground to push your foot into.
Also the release lever on the side will wear out and won't stay up so you'll be bending down and holding onto the lever as you take your boot out.
Put the money you save on step-ons and buy good boots and good strap bindings instead for the love of god
t. rental shop rat with step-on experience (and not the rental specific ones but actual retail ones)
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>>241831
I assume you're referring to all quick entry and not just the Burton (now licensed by other companies) bindings.
I don't think anyone thinks that straps are holding them back from anything. Everyone I know of who has some sort of quick entry binding got it simply for comfort.
The way I see it, bindings have remained the same way since forever. Quick entry is definitely a step in (hehe) the right direction and I like that more and more companies are adapting it and more people are willing to try it out, hopefully leading to more innovation.
I agree that given its current state it definitely has a lot of problems. One as you have already mentioned is if you're in deep powder.
The bigger concern for me is the way certain companies are pushing for proprietary boots limiting your options and adds another component that can potentially fail by making boots a part of the locking mechanism.
If I could have my current favorite bindings turned into a quick entry, without losing any of its characteristics and still allowing me to use the boots I like, I'd gladly pay an extra 100 bucks for it.
>>241824
How much for a season pass? It's 470 USD for mine, tiny resort, Dec-April, comes with free parking.
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>>241832
Mainly referencing Burton step-ons but none of them will outperform straps anytime soon
There's a reason why there's 0 pro riders that use them seriously
I've talked to dudes who say they can't/don't want to bend down to do their straps countless times over the years
And Burton reps have literally told me the main market for step-ons is rich old dudes (especially chinese)
It sounds dumb but step-in bindings give you too much response and 0 play
Strap bindings will let you and your boot move side to side which helps you shift weight to the nose and tail without moving the board (especially noticeable when doing any sort of freestyle riding)
I will say carving at full speed on a stiff board with step-ons feels nicer but thats going to feel nice anyway regardless of straps or not IMO
Of course if they could overcome these hangups while making them affordable I'd get around them but I just can't see them improving without bloating out the features while keeping the weight down (I swear Supermatics are twice the weight of regular bindings)
Completely locking into the bindings makes sense for skis because skiers need way more control over their skis and edges but it just doesn't feel right on a board.
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>>241831
What are your thoughts on rear entry/hybrid options like supermatics or those fenix bindings?
>>241832
>How much for a season pass
It's about $670 dollars for a northeast value pass which gives me access to a bunch of resorts within reasonable driving distance in New Hampshire and a few days in Stowe. Next year I'm going to look into the Indypass.
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>>241836
Supermatics are too heavy and have too many moving parts and feel kinda janky, same with flows except not as heavy but feel weirdly loose
Too many moving parts means higher chance of the binding failing, and finding spare parts will be difficult if you’re not in North America
And like step-ons, no chance of getting in if you’re in deep snow or steep/uneven terrain
I personally think reliability, lightweight and affordability > easy boot entry
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Need a new pow board, throw me some recommendations
My slush slasher is delamming to shit so I gotta kill it but I’d like to get another similar Omni directional boards
And step ons are for kooks. Those + dope snow apparel =instant gaper
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>>242174
also just found a cheapish caldera which might suit your purposes
https://www.ridgelinebikenski.com/product/telos-caldera-33335.htm?vari ations=619511&srsltid=AfmBOoqSM7TmP qHNAItlXf3gs0GECUB5h7tgq8OHjxMK7vz2 KZpp5C0fEZc
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>>242274
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tbjrA7zZwH0
carving on a bideck more or less works the same way as carving on a snowboard. the biggest immediate difference is that you can't just stop for free and you can't get away with being lazy.
desu i think snowskating made me a better snowboarder
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hey slope bros, this is looking like a good winter for us. How is everyone training for the first day back on the slopes come december/january? with love, out of shape retard from the ice coast
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pool's closed
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>>241831
Been using step-on for 2 full seasons, they do work in powder easy, you just need to do it standing, so need a bit of balance, maybe not for beginners.
Benefit is limited for experience riders, traditional bindings I can strap in standing in 3 sec, step-on I can step in on the go.
I work in a ski resort and spend 100+ days per season riding.
Oh, and I got my stepons dirt cheap lol
(Even still, I have considered switching back to straps, maybe after mine broke)
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>>243259
I probably don't have the same finesse as you do stepping in pow but it was near impossible when I'm waist deep in Japan, even after packing out a good little shelf with the board - I eventually got it but if we're talking about saving time and energy, I wasted too much of it on a premo pow day just trying to get in the damn things
So why do people have this obsession with saving 5 seconds and the energy bending down to strap in? If you ask me, it's kinda deluded thinking that helps justify spending all that extra money
And you're obviously pretty seasoned so you'd be able to make anything work and still rip
I don't think guys like us are the main market for these things
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>>242174
Rossignol Sushi for low angle, Endeavour Archetype for steep. For not so deep steep powder, something like a Rome Ravine Pro. I'm also a slush slasher stan and I'm glad I bought two of them before they designed all the fun out of it.
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How trustworthy is the gear from Sierra Trading Co/TJ Maxx. They're selling snowboard boots for $150 to $200 and I'm wondering if they're worth copping. Also I'm praying for a not shit year weather-wise on the ice coast.
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>>245768
just looking at their website it looks like mostly cheap rental gear.
>150 to 200
you can absolutely find better boots in that price range if you just shop around a little.
depending on how much/how aggressively you ride you can get vans in that price range but i also see ride & k2 boots pop up all the time
just 2 minutes of searching and i already see better stuff. just be careful to make sure you dont accidentally buy some step on boots.
https://www.searchtempest.com/search?search_string=vans%20snowboard%20 boot&category=8&subcat=sss&citysele ct=zip&location=81623&maxDist=50000 #gsc.tab=0
https://www.searchtempest.com/search?search_string=k2%20snowboard%20bo ot&category=8&subcat=sss&cityselect =zip&location=81623&maxDist=50000#g sc.tab=0
https://www.ebay.com/itm/365168861141?_skw=ride+anchor+boot&hash=item5 505c29fd5%3Ag%3AS2cAAOSwk5ZnBtJi&cu stomid&toolid=10049
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I fucked up and bought some used spark blaze splitboard bindings that didn’t come with the bracket kit that it typically comes with. Anyone know where I can get the spark LT bracket kits or am I gonna have to buy each bracket, heel rests and screws piecemeal? Or should I just wait for the next paycheck to hit and buy better bindings to save me the trouble?
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>>219254
Flow bindings are legit. Heavy, not performance oriented, but pretty good for just a binding on your daily cruiser and relatively cheap and durable. Use with whichever boot you want.
>>220103
This >>223271 is the appropriate reaction. But no one has to know.
>>222144
The fucking kids develop skill faster than they develop sense. It's the worst fucking combination.
>>222514
>colorado
>dropping 25' cliffs yesterday
bro you know we don't got snow yet right. maybe this weekend inshallah
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Last season I jumped back into snowboarding for the first time since 2018. I had an undersized board, no pants, and none of my gear was water resistant. I had a blast and over the off season have rectified everything, and gotten a season pass to a local mountain. I'm so hyped bros...
Pay no attention to the binding angles, I just threw them on there.
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>>247844
I was looking like an asshole riding in jeans while it's raining.
The board is a 162 Prior Wildcard with the hybrid camber, rcr, if anyone cares. With the default options. I didn't feel like going with the $200 upcharge for it to be 10% lighter.
My first board was a 155 flying v so it got unstable really fast when I pointed it downhill. The reason I went for a true twin shape is I want to work on my switch a lot this season. I want to be just as good both directions by the end.
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intermediate rider here. east coast US, best option near me is likely killington, which i can ride 80%+ of without too much issue (some trees, double blacks, moguls, etc being sketch for me still). some powder experience out west but not much. i am still sitting on my starter board i got 5 years ago - a rome garage rocker. it has been great for learning but i get the feeling that switching to a more intermediate/advanced profile would benefit my improvement, and i feel like i am plateauing a bit and need to push myself more. any suggestions for boards to graduate to? i feel like a cambered board is likely the place to start but really dont have any experience at all picking boards and all my friends are skiers.
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>>248174
Can’t answer that as I am a beginner/intermediate myself, but how is killington? I’ve always gone to jay and was curious since it’s roughly the same driving time to get there. Hate how the prices fluctuate but I heard it’s nice.
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Can one of you guys break the chairlift while I'm on one alone with a girl so we can bond, and I can get a qt3.14 boarder girl?
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>>248195
I'll be at seymour too
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chat did i get raped or is this fine
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>>219574
I have had one of these since 2009:
>https://bataleon.com/products/bataleon-2526-evil-twin-plus-mens-snowb oard
The 3d base is not a gimmick. It seriously fucking rules and I've never wanted another board since. Recommend looking for one of these used online.
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>>250450
Hello >>241824
>I brought food and booze from home
As one should. I drive to the slope Friday night and leave Monday morning, sleep and eat in the car. My go to:
>bread
>tuna/egg/mayo
>pâté
>peanut butter
>boiled eggs
>cup noodles
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>local mountain has a jump
>throw a few 360 variations no problem
>try doing a simple 180 nose grab
>get consistently bodied
>fuck it back 3 nose grab
>get bodied hard on ice
>hip and knee all fucked up
I blame the Jews
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Things are looking up
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conditions in Colorado are very much like the east coast this year...
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Santa is late with my new board.
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>>218920
Today I kept feeling my tail catching while going through moguls, but yesterday I didn't. I moved my bindings arround a little bit, but I'm pretty sure I moved at least the back one back to where it was and it still felt the same.
>>247791 (me)
So glad I got a new board. It feels so much more stable at speed, and even though it's bigger, feels much more agile. I'm also getting the hang of mounting my stepons while on the move. So nice.
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ice coast intermediate rider here
i am looking to buy my second board. i am completely uninformed and only started boarding as an adult. i was sold on a rome garage rocker as my first board and it has served me very well but my general understanding is that for east coast riding and skill-level progression into better carving and technique, a cambered or hybrid board will probably serve me better. is this a reasonable statement? any suggestions for places to educate myself a bit on shopping around, or any tried-and-true lines of boards i should look into?
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Ive been riding for a long time (2010s) and used to be sponsored back when a cork 10 was crazy lol i started on the ice coast but moved out west now for quite a number of years - id honestly never try clickers especially not the burton ones. Id consider the FASE tho,. maybe im just an oldfag but, the union force's do me just fine and i dont mind the 2 seconds to strap in (you dont have to even sit down unless youre new to this). There's a reason most pros dont wear stepins.
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>>253138
I got back into boarding at the lend of last season. I decided I wanted to commit to it, but I needed new boots. I looked into the market and saw some of the step on options. k2, burton, etc. I was prettu quick in my decision and bought some burton step ons. I don't regret it, but I would probably go with Supermatics if I was making the same decision today, if only for the wider boot selection. It's really satasfying to skate a few times off the chairlift then step into my back binding and be on my way. Are they less performant than traditional binding? Probably? Though I imagine it wont make a difference for 99% of people and they'll appreciate the convenience. You'll also save a few bucks going with traditional.
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>lacing backside 540s
>rando on my lift gives me a shot of Jim beam
>feeling frisky
>try a cab 270 on a tube
>immediately snap my wrist
>fractured need surgery
>find out 3 other people broke their wrist from the same mountain and went to my surgeon as well
Does anybody else feel like most park crews aren’t as good as they used to be at maintaining rails? I know my injury was because I suck at cab 270s but I’ve noticed that rails seem to stick more or have a lot more burrs then they used to
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>>241831
What would you say are the most durable boots for the money
Trying to get something lindy
t. noob
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>>254264
>durable
>for the money
Boots and liners are consumables. The amount of beating they get means they will sooner rather than later wear out. They're the first thing you'll be replacing.
If you're strapped for cash then get top of the line boots from last season (old stock or used), then find new liners and insoles.
And if you are really, really, strapped for cash, go for laces instead of boa because at least you can replace them if they break or start becoming loose.
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