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Is there any ice skaters here? Figure, dance, speed, freestyle, or even hockey can be included.
Not many places to talk about it.
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I like figure skating
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Well anyways I've been taking group lessons for the past 4 months I guess.
Having a good time, haven't really had the same feeling in any other sport when I actually start to accomplish something I was struggling with. The technical aspect of it is actually really fun.
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yeah there's not that many places to talk about it. best place is just chat up some decently skilled random skater at the rink and ask for tips if you're struggling.
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For the summer vacations i've been practicing my edges a lot, but learning without guidance is very frustrating for a sport as precise as figure skating requires you to be.
>Shoulders? Facing the wrong way and you fail.
>Hips? Gotta mind them too, not too low, not too high, better move them with precise timing or you fail.
Not to mention that you're constantly squatting and extending your muscles. Having to mind all of these things alone when you've barely got 1 year of experience under your belt seems like an impossible task.
The thing is, i don't even mind grinding 'til i find what works and what doesn't, but it's sharing the public rink that's got me frustrated. How am i supposed to feel safe falling when i know that at any moment a hockey skates dude might just speed towards me at 30/kmh? These men and women do not know how to stop at the speed that they're going at. In fact, my arm still hurt from the last time a guy just fucking rammed into me at uncontrolled speed.
Yet, no matter what, I find myself craving the ice badly each and every day. It's the allure that no matter how shitty you are each session makes room for improvement. It's the feeling of gliding, mastering elements and freedom which makes it all worth it. I love the smell of damp ice, the feeling of community in this singular sport, the pain of losing as much as the joy of winning.
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You should look up this figure skater
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>>241065
Take up hockey so you can learn ice awareness while protected by pads. Take up judo so you can learn to fall and recover properly.
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Man I've been struggling with inside 3 turns for like an entire month and I feel like I'm progressing slow as fuck. I get over the turn and just stall, which makes me think I need to go faster or bend more, but I just can't get it.
I've got both my outsides good enough to just throw out on a whim at least though.
Otherwise I feel like I'm going along pretty decently, but I'm trying to build a strong foundation before doing jumps or anything more advanced. It's hard to stay motivated though when it feels like you're doing basic kiddy stuff all the time.
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>>241257
Have you tried minding your hips and shoulders? For outside the free leg should be extended as much as possible with open hips and toes facing the side (facing right if ur doing left outside egde forward 3turn)
Also ive found that having an arm extended in front of me help directing the turn.
To learn to master your basics you should definitely check out the youtube channel style skating, the woman speaking is great, it's almost like having your personal coach with how precise her descriptions are
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>>241382
Yeah I’m watching that, and I do got a private coach that constantly hits me on my lack of arms. But she’s pretty happy with the turns themselves and says it’s mostly just needing to smooth things out and get more muscle memory. But it’s still a struggle and I hate how slow this feels compared to everything else being so easy.
Honestly considering other people I talk to I think a large part is my outside edges suck, and if I had to guess it’s cause my feet are a bit fucked so I really need to strain myself to get into the outside position, and I think that’s hurting the post rotation glide.
On the bright side, afternoons are dead now that kids are in school. It’s so much easier to get practice when there’s only like 3 girls on the entire rink.
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>>241387
Sometimes it just happens man. Personally i been stuck on twizzles and scratch spins for two months now and i'm boutta explode. Unless i go to classes any ice that i step my foot on is ruined by hockey players, im losing my passion i can feel it. The only times i feel truly unburdened is when the ice is empty and smooth, but like that happens at public sessions
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>>244701
I stopped caring about looking gay, now I'm just having fun.
I do kinda look like a pedo being the only grown man in group classes filled with little girls though.
But all the adult women seem to like me well enough. If I was single I could probably land a few of them.
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>>244701
ur crazy if you think thats a sport that'll make you unattractive, being the only figure skating man on the ice surrounded by women already makes you have a pretty good chance at standing out, plus take a good look at men skaters (who have the strongest following) and try telling me that most of their fans are only here for their technical prowess and nothing else. of course thats not the case, these women find the flying and dancing around the ice very attractrive, i mean sure, not all women are gonna be into a figure skating man just as not all women are gonna be into a football guy. but trust me bro fs is not gonna be the thing that keeps u single
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>>244809
HAHAHA THATS TRUE, figure skating is such an obscure sport that you'll find yourself talking to people from all different stages of life just for that sense of community and i think its beautiful, being young and having conversations with older people, it gives me the impression of getting wiser just by our social exchange
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for me it's speed skating
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>learning scratch spins
I hate it
I hate spins in general too.
I just don't ever really see the appeal outside of very niche circumstances, even the best skaters it just feels like they're taking you out of the moment so they can check off a box.
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I'm a figure skater, I didn't compete because I had little support financially but I'm skilled. I've returned to training recently, looking to compete just to bring some new moves and contribute something because skating to win isn't for me.
I'm willing to give coaching tips if I remember to come back here, I've coached as well. I know the specific movements and muscles needed, training off ice, and common mistakes. You'd need to post a reference however. But for general advice, many people don't realize the foot muscles needed to skate properly and you either develop them by skating skills or off ice drills. Without it you will struggle.
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>>252668
I’m a year in now, but yeah my insole constantly murder me. Know any good off ice exercises for that? Like 15-30 minutes into heavy edge drills and I’m basically dead.
I was doing physical therapy for a related issue, and some of the balance drills I did for them have helped. But I’d like some targeted exercises and it doesn’t seem to be a common thing worked on.
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>>253936
A lot of squats focused on knee over ankle, meaning the knee goes past the ankle. Use the balance boards that gyms usually have. Also exercises that ballet dancers do to strengthen the feet will help. You don't need to develop pointe. Use therabands and ballet barre exercises, easy enough with a chair. Aim to do everything unassisted eventually, skating requires balance in the end. Kseniya and Oleg have an amazing channel on edges and turns. Do what they do on ice and even off ice, putting pressure on the sides of your feet like they show with the red and blue lines. If you know what I mean by pumps on the circle, do those too. If not, power pulls, but only one edge and remain on a circle, putting pressure and release around the circle, not having to worry about switching edges or traveling down the rink.
https://www.inspireusafoundation.org/single-leg-squat-variations/
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=YVCytrJJOio&pp=ugUHEgVlbi1VUw%3D%3D
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=U-nhYGYWO2Q
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=We0uEeMIsA4
https://m.youtube.com/kseniyaOleg