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Is it time to accept that Caucasus wrestlers have debunked striking forever?
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All they've done is demonstrate how dumb the octagon is
They literally just push people into the wall, it's a good strategy but it only works because of the weird environment the cage creates
If it was in a normal ring or an open mat the whole thing falls apart like a house of cards
By the way this was always the point of the cage, remember UFC was originally designed to be a gracie jiujitsu commercial, they designed it to aid their fighting style which at that time was the same. Bum rush the legs and pin against the wall. Watch grecie challenge videos and you'll see that's what they do
Then the meta shifted and now that gay boring lay and pray shit is back again
What's old is new again, history doesn't repeat but it rhymes
This will be the death of the UFC though
The brand is already in decline and now you have champions that just rear body lock and run the clock, nobody is gonna watch this shit
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>>240427
>debunked striking
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>>240427
Ground game is for when you can afford to be on the ground, and that's not usually the case in the real world where friends and rando's will stomp your head in while you're trying to roll around on the ground. You need to have skill in both stand up and ground fighting.
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kumshot was insufferable Saturday. He should not be champion because that wasn’t fucking fighting, ddp smiling like a retard the whole merry way too. and that little dicksuckle arman, god I would love to just kick him square in the balls from behind the arrogant fuck.
Merab and ilia are way more interesting than the dagi fucks. even if merab still has similarities to them, and i get how some people can find him boring, his judo is pure pottery. I like sandhagen but he’s got no chance
Khabib is gay for not fighting Tony but it was interesting seeing a lighter guy do a sort of Cain v style no doubt when I first watched him…. Then it’s like ok dude… the same thing each fight. Islam is a little better but him not fighting ilia goes to show how bullshit ufc is. Fuck umar that quick little faggot I’m glad merab raped his soul into humiliation, if muslims are capable
Ank seems like a chill guy, I hope Alex gives him a seizure with the first punch of the first round tho.
SPIDER IS THE GOAT
I HOPE TOM VORES GANE IN THEIR OCTOBER FIGHT
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They didn't debunk anything, they are simply well-rounded in a promotion where most of the top fighters are pure kickboxers whose grappling skill extends to scrambles to standing, two chokes and desperation armbar attempts
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>>240783
>you can throw people instead of rolling on the ground, you know
Right, my point is that stand up fighting should be trained as should ground work for real world situations, and while ground work is arguably better for competition, it's usually the last resort for non-competition defense.
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>This is real fighting! We are so fucking tough noone can beat our dudes barehanded
If it's real then have no rules
Finger grabs, eye gouges, soccer kicks, aim for spine and throat, fucking SPITTING, throwing you out the cage. All that
>We need rules because we need to protect or fighters (it'll cost us medical aid money and star promotions. They only have 2 eyes lmao)
Then spitting, grabbing the cage, knees with 3 points down, Speedos, uniforms, stomps, etc. Should be fine. All bare knuckle. We palm strike now.
>Noone wants to see that, that looks savage or taints the looks and brand. Le noble warrior (money bro. We sell gloves and shit)
So it's a sport
>Of course. We aren't street fighters.
>That's why we do rounds, TKO, time limits. It keeps it fast and ends in time. Very entertaining and good for the kids.
>But we want to keep it as close to the real thing we can. While keeping the money I mean the fighters wellbeing in mind
>But keep it fair for grapplers. We are MIXED martial arts.
Then why count control time? Why give points for ground and standing control time if we all know it's got no actual benefits in a real fight (if you tire me and I kill you I win. If my friends come over I win. If you CAN'T submit me or knock me out you DON'T win.) and no benefit in a timed match that turns boring when our fighters just hug for 15 minutes? We can count take downs and slams even if they do little in a match because IRL you break your shit on concrete (Also because it's fun, just like striking). Then we countdown a minute of ground/stand control and then we stand/separate fighters. It's fast, it's active. Maybe the one that takes you down has to stand up quick or it costs him a point after 1:30 minutes. This also simulates my friend kicking him in the head AND makes ground game fun and explosive switching speeds and dominance in a second.
>This isn't the olympics faggot. This is real life!! (BJJ money. We invested in bjj. Also Slav and Arab money.)
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>>240471
grounded knees benefit grapplers
>grounded knees benefit grapplers
grounded knees benefit grapplers
>grounded knees benefit grapplers
grounded knees benefit grapplers
>grounded knees benefit grapplers
grounded knees benefit grapplers
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>>240427
>Wrestler's peak performance vs Striker's most mediocre performance
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>>244334
Doesn't matter because your end goal when participate in this shit is to get money without turning your brain into mush in the process. If wrestlers pull that off, then they did the right thing, no matter how boring it may look to others. Tony Ferguson tried to be entertaining and look where he is now, a damaged wreck with less money than Khabib
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>>240427
It's a shame Khabib v GSP never happened. If he'd been able to match Khabib in wrestling and beat him, it would have underlined the need to improve stand-up game and have that option for when you face another elite grappler. But there aren't really any well-rounded guys who can show them that now.
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>>240427
Remember when Rousey lost and everyone was like "she's the sea song of grappling in MMA, the last pure grappler champion" KEK
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>>253484
That was a good day. And Zhang, Rose and other ladies came along that could grapple and actually strike too. So Ronda looks even dumber in hindsight.
It's a shame, instead of being looked at as a pioneer, Ronda is laughed at because of what a shitty person she is.
GOAT Nunes bless. Thank you for beating the piss out of Ronda.