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Thread prompt:
If you could make a dream BL anime/manga/videogame, with no limitations; what would it be about and who would you hire to do art/voices/etc?
Bonus:
What is a genre of BL that you flat-out refuse to read/watch, without having ever read/watched it before?
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>If you could make a dream BL anime/manga/videogame, with no limitations; what would it be about and who would you hire to do art/voices/etc?
I will learn how to program and make the stupid pixel RPG with evil boy getting his gay harem and vanquishing cosmic horrors. I have to learn how to program first though
>What is a genre of BL that you flat-out refuse to read/watch, without having ever read/watched it before?
I've dabbled in almost everything at this point so I can't answer it properly, but I really dislike omegashit, unless it's something more normal like alpha x beta or alpha x alpha or whatever. Basically I hate the breeding fetish stuff specifically.
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any other BLs that make it past the 2-3 volume mark? I recently caught up on the fantrans of Blue Sky Complex and I'm really loving the story. was pleasantly surprised it has 10 volumes which I don't see a lot of in this genre
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>>3067340
it's translated to volume 8 on bato, plus 4 chapters of indigo blue. I'd say that's a good chuck to read alone. mangadex stops at volume 5. most the story now is just a slice of life with them navigating life and college as a gay couple really and some of the challenges they may face regarding it. lot more sex scenes too
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>>3067399
"no reason" its a Korean webtoon, but its basically rape of one guy for like 50 chapters. Drugs, mindbreak, gangrape, etc. the ending sucks but it doesn't skimp on rape thats for sure. I know some people hate in korean stuff, but they sure are in their rape era rn
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>>3066624
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5zwfs8TYI3M
Speaking of, Nakamura-kun anime trailer got released. How do you anons feel about the artstyle?
Also, I wonder how they're willing to adapt it when there's only 2 volumes out.
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>>3067399
actual rape or almost rape? I could post a few of the ones I liked when I get back. that bha one where he realizes he's not the main character of the story anymore and it breaks his mind was gr8. had a really neat art style.
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So glad he is the father. It would suck having him be the bottom AND be cucked out by raising someone else's kid.
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Just a confirmation thing. Ukes being absolutely inept physically despite being men is to allow fujos to self insert right? Or is there something else to it?
Koreans especially seem to like extra dainty males: dudes muscles are just for show
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>>3068060
No I get that, I'm not speaking about bara or whatever. I'm talking about specifically being weak as hell.
>>3068062
Is it? I'm a bi man and I really prefer stories with dudes being dudes instead of being characterized as females but in a man's body
>>3068065
I didn't think it like that. I just noticed how clear the dynamic protector-protected is in these stories. It's always a princess in distress kinda deal with the uke always been unable to do anything on their own, especially if it's physical
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>>3068073
>weak as hell
Idk, most twinks are. At least comparatively, in my experience. If you mean shit like when they try to do rapeplay in the bed or whatever. Not much difference between a woman and a 5'5 dyel gay bottom boy in terms of strength. The only time writing like that makes me cringe is when they have self lubricating assholes, half the fun of anal imo is foreplay and prepping a bottom to take dick.
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>>3068075
>Not much difference between a woman and a 5'5 dyel gay bottom boy in terms of strength.
Well damn you must have had sex with some weak ass people then, I didn't quite grasp how much fem you liked them.
>they have self lubricating assholes,
That is pretty weird but it makes me chuckle, just like for some reason some artists think that cum is a good lubricant and they'll use it instead of actual lube.
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>>3068077
Bro. I can outlift you and your dad, chill. No man feels like a limp noodle, unless they're on hrt or actually never did any sports whatsoever. But basically any guy ever where I live is into some sort of sport.
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>>3068082
I count working out as an actual constant effort, not actually doing zilch.
>>3068081
Sure, where you at homie?
I wasn't being salty BTW, I came off a little strong but I meant that I do work out, a lot actually. So I don't come from a place of ignorance when it comes to speaking about strength.
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>>3067990
I think the yakuza guy realized it wasn't his kid in that panel. And the bonus chapter I thought she didn't abort it because she knew it was mcs and he would be responsible and the reason why she was looking for him.
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Could anyone give me some recs that are cute and fluffy, similar to this?
(besides the other stuff by the author, obviously)
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>>3068382
dunno if its close enough to what you want, but the first cute and somewhat fluffy thing that pops to my head is "the first thing i do in the morning is...". an older stepbrother falls in love with his younger, straight brother. the younger brother thinks his older brother is a disgusting loser homo, but finds the fact that hes hopelessly in love with him endearing, pic related being the part that infodumps it
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>>3068461
https://myreadingmanga.info/search/?search=Shimura-Takako+first+thing+ eng
theres like 6 volumes or whatever they call it
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I've read Kaname and found it suprisingly wholesome and now I am looking for recommendations that are similar, so an assertive crossdressing uke and a seme who is more or less an average guy.
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>>3069000
no you gotta say what it is or like no ones going to click it, and imo, you need the m/f transgender options split up. here.
strawpoll for this thread (what GENDER is this thread?):
https://strawpoll.com/poy9k62kJgJ
no account required, just click on what option applies to you
ill make one for the fujo thread, with a slightly different question of course.
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>>3068962
I genuinely don't understand what goes on in the heads of some Japanese mangakas (male or female), they are supposed to do these little projects more for themselves than for a large audience, what is the joy of making your main character into a miserable cuck?
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>>3069197
affrimation of what lol. all i said was i thought most users were male, made a post for people to answer that question. then said i was a male.
its you guys talking about trannies and stuff. answer the poll or dont, lol.
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>>3069206
sorta. last time i did the poll it got around the same amount of posts, but no one freaking out.
again, i said i could post a hand or dick, but you guys said it would just be my bf or whatever. would you really be happier if i pretended to be a girl?
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>>3068049
Female here. I don't really self insert as the ukes moreso I just like seeing submissive pretty boys getting fucked. If you're however talking about the full on trap ukes that's more of a fetish for straight men. I actually prefer power bottoms over just treating the ukes as woman lite. Never really understood the self projecting desu
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>>3069282
i don’t like traps but i stan wide hips if its high estro fat on chubby guys (don’t judge i fuck with chubby laios), but the part i hate on trap art is the cinched corseted waist they almost always give them
>>3069283
it’s mostly a western uke/trap/whatever artist thing, so is the ugly shiny skin and 3 foot long infected veiny dicks
like, the posters here judge korean bara art for being too twinky or badly drawn but then spam the ugliest blow up doll guys with huge balloon pecs, massive horse faces, tumor muscle legs, and giga fire hose cocks
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>>3068460
Okay I read it. Idk how you think this cute and fluffy anon. I liked it that is was fucked up, but that's the opposite of cute and fluffy. I would recommend you look up words in the dictionary from time to time.
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>>3069318
well i wouldnt of thought it was fucked up. he never forces himself on him, he so hopelessly in love he cant hold a grudge, and the brother apologized for basically ruining his life for that period, and didnt intend it to be that bad. and the ending isnt "then they fucked", it was "and then he accepted him as his brother...only, so far. he still thinks gays are gross".
its cute and fluffy to me....without the saccharine sweet part. realistic people fumbling around. like the cute parts in my little inferno, when hitoshi and ma are just relaxing
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>>3069374
Anon, stories about getting outed to your school and being forced to drop out and having to listen to your crush/brother have sex with other people through the wall isn't what people ask for with "cute and fluffy". Cute and fluffy means low stakes sugary romance with minimal conflict.
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>>3069448
Nah, it doesn't, Michael is just cutting Jake's clothes off. But yeah, I forgot that it's tagged as Gore; Michael stabs Jake's hands to keep him pinned to the floor. I personally think that it doesn't look that gory, but that may just be my impression. Also, Jake is killed in the end, but since it's Dead by Daylight, it's implied in picrel that he respawns for the next round as usual.
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>>3069455
Yeah, I just wanted to be on the safe side, I thought stuff that might be disturbing for others might be better left in its containment thread... But there's rape stuff in the recs, so you're probably right
>>3069466
I feel you, most of the ryona I see in doujins on western sites is pretty lackluster. I think e-hentai.org has more than myreadingmanga.info but I'm not entirely sure. Well, at least there's still pixiv...
>>3069463
hh it looks so cute and the voice actor is doing a great job too, I can't wait; thank you anon
>>3067537
I absolutely adore the artstyle of the manga, I loved Ranma 1/2 and this feels like a more modern take on the style with Syundei's individual spin on it; The anime seems better made than some other BL anime adaptations I've seen, but overall ok although I'm already loving the colours and lovely screentone patterns they seem to be using here. The style seems well adapted too; I'll definitely be downloading this one and let it take up space on my harddrive
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>>3069500
lmao a totally rational response to a cute comedy bl, thank you for sharing that.
...Imagine putting on a romcom during movie night and your pal asks when the slasher will turn up so you can jack off together. Too bad I'll have to settle for rubbing shoulders...
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has anyone else read 'color recipe'? it's one of the best psychological BLs i've read. matter of fact, does anyone else read Harada in general?
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It is football survey time
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSeu4LJwSDpPoV-lhqQZzDqxfAWoos BKcTbIX3EERFgTaPMRPg/viewform?usp=s f_link
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The Summer Hikaru Died / Hikanatsu anime Trailer
https://youtu.be/fAfcm5Cydvs
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>>3071586
That's not too bad considering he gets raped by Wookyung, the hottest (and richest) male in the series. The yumes who read Sadistic Beauty would jump on the chance to be raped by Wookyung. If she hated Minho she should've had him repeatedly raped by ugly mobs.
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I know top/bottom tends to be pretty fixed in BL but I've run into a few series now where there's a 'oh no can't stick it in me' plotline and they just never contemplate either the other one bottoming or even sex with no penetration and I don't care for it.
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>>3071603
Same. I read yaoi because they're both men, I want both of them to be using their man parts damnit. Or just more variety in general, frotting is hot. I want a plotline where the big seme type insists on bottoming so the little uke type won't get hurt at least aaaaaaaaaaaaaa
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what's wrong with this artist
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does anyone remember this manga where a delinquent gets caught masterbating in the toilet by the student council president (?) and after the delinquent cant cum without him watching, the art was great, and the ml was super autistic I really want to find it again
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I WANT NTR OR NTS WHERE A WIFE/GF HAS TO WATCH HER MAN GET TOPPED BY ANOTHER MAN AND I WANT IT NOOOWWW
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>>3072254
impeccable taste anon I wish more NTR content like that existed but the only doujin I can think of is cream pie by itto
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>>3072262
if you like stuff on the more fluff or wholesome side with minimal sex in it, id go with doukyousei, umibe no stranger, cherry magic, the metalhead next door, Run Way no Yukue wo Shiritaika, I hear the sunspot, monotone blue, just to name a few. last one is furry but it's drawn by nagabe and his furry art is always nice to look at, well for me personally.
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For those Anons who've read their fair share of manhua or manhwa, what would you say the differences are between them and manga?
I'm curious myself as to manhua, from what I've seen the characters seem to have this masculine but dignified look to them.
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i already have a rough-around-the-edges but good BL idea i think (pls don’t steal)
the theme will be around dating an acuter autistic nigga and one of them is japanese and the other is hapa and it takes place in hawaii, most of it will be about a high school romance between them, the story will be from primarily the perspective of the japanese guy, who is a cute black-haired fellow that is either japanese american or an exchange student. he goes to high school in honolulu, o’ahu and is an avid programmer. he has decent number of friends and he’s on the shorter side. one day he stumbles across the (equally) cute hapa guy sitting alone at lunch and sits down to talk to him. initially put off by his perceived rudeness as the hapa guy barely speaks and focuses on his drawing. over time they become closer and get romantic (i don’t have an idea of who is a top or bottom and i want both to be the same height) the hapa guy i think should have a blonde and brown balayage with cute fluffy hair and i think he should be from a cattle ranching family the big island, and he struggles to cope with being in o’ahu because of his retardation. anyways i want it to be a cute story with a good ending and both characters should be twunks and i want the voice actors to have slightly more masculine voices. i also want to emphasize the cultural differences between the two characters in their dress and views, and i want hyper-intense sad and happy moments and whatnot, also i want a sequel when they’re in their early thirties and they’re still twinks but with crows feet or something i think that’s kinda cute
sorry for putting this together so poorly, if you have any criticism or ideas tell me
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>>3072604
it may be a weird opinion, but the paneling is so different between Japanese and Korean works. Korean stuff is so adapted to phones it makes things easier to read and translate, its also a lot cleaner with more space but the larger impactful scenes/full page scenes are all sideways and awkward compared to Japanese manga which are usually done well. Japanese manga also tends to jam a lot of text into smaller panels which can be a bit annoying.
Korean works tend to have the small head and large bodies compared to Japanese classic yaoi hands kek, but they do have more masculine characters like you mentioned which is refreshing.
Chinese works imo usually have shitty art, some of it is more reminiscent of early 2000s art. Theres usually like 0.01%of great works that are Chinese. I envy them though because like the Spanish speakers, they have tons of passionate translators and more works available in their language.
>based koreans also do more rape stuff which is my jam
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Hey this is a long shot but I read a yaoi one day from here about an all boys high school that got a transfer student, everyone thought it was a girl until he showed his penis. He then gets bullied hard and in one scene a bully spits on him to which he opens his mouth and catches it becoming the Bullies boy toy after that. Does anyone know of a manga or story like that? It's really much like high school boy but harder rated.
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I found a web 1.0 website with almost 2700 doujinshi (a lot from the early 00s) of dozens of different IPs that don't seem to be available elsewhere:
http://www.arigatomina.com/downloads/djs/index.html ("soft" yaoi)
http://www.arigatomina.com/downloads/private/djs/index.html ("hard" yaoi)
If anyone wants to save everything instead of browsing page by page, you can go to http://www.arigatomina.com/downloads/ and use a download manager to save the "doujinshi", "raws" and "private" folders.
I'm going to download everything for archival purposes, but I don't know of a good place to upload 24GB worth of content.
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>>3072759
I used JDownloader to save everything. All I needed to do was paste these links and the tool detected them immediately:
https://www.arigatomina.com/downloads/doujinshi/
https://www.arigatomina.com/downloads/raws/
https://www.arigatomina.com/downloads/private/doujinshi/
https://www.arigatomina.com/downloads/private/raws/
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has anyone read First Summers? it's gaining some traction on xitter and I read the few15 chapters translated and like it so far. I'm wondering if the writter is either gay themselves, or is one of those socially aware allies cause aside from the love interest being a closeted gay man, there's a ton of pride flags and refs/memes to gay culture hidden throughout the story. Art style is cute too
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refs for example
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just throwing out a dumb plot I thought of on the drive to work.
>straight guy decided to take the plunge, goes to known gloryhole/gay hookup place, gets abducted by ayylmaos
>goes to try to tell people what happened, everyone just thinks he's lying and really was just going to the gay hookup spot (kinda true)
>aliens find this situation amusing, start picking on him and leaving him stranded and in gay situations
>found in bondage gear in the desert yelling aliens gave him handjobs for hours
that's pretty much it lel. Mc is both confused and "confused" because he's getting the best sex of his life but he's not sure if he's gay, or if the aliens are guys, and that the alien sex is gay, so on, so fourth
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>>3073156
yeah it's more of a comedy idea. the sexuality should be treated lighthearted, like even as he's trying to convince everyone he's not gay and it was aliens, everyone should just not care and maybe his mother reacts with "finally he came out, awwww". meanwhile the aliens are lolling and hitting him with the orgazmo ray gun at the worst moment possible.
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does anyone remember a bl/yaoi manga probably from the early 00s about some paki kid getting dropped off at a catholic private school and getting bullied and fucked? i think the main antagonist also rapes the pastor. i read it on animea like 15 years ago
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If any in these words fans are still here and didn't know, the creators are planning to put everything on their patreon. https://www.patreon.com/GUILTPLEASURE?utm_campaign=creatorshare_creato r
Last itw update was 3 days ago, chapter 22.
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>>3072254
yeah this. i want it to happen during perfect boyfriend and girlfriends relationship dissolves via bisexual sociopath predator who comes across them. havent found anything that comes close. its a tough world out there
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>>3074314
It's Soredemo Boku wa Kimi ga Suki/Forget Me Not. It's not BL unfortunately. The "gay" part is just a few pages long and left me wishing they did more with it. Which is why I posted here.
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>>3073725
oh for real? I was waiting for their 5th volume to come out so I could buy it. thanks for the link!
>>3073734
it depends on the types or aspects you like about a rape story. the Korean one I enjoyed mostly for the smut and mind break was "No Reason." I dont fully enjoy the psychological suffering to a certain point but if youre into that, I recently read "Non Zero Sum" Its imo very depressing, but the art is pretty good. You may find other works if you read scan sites, I started hunting for yaoi works on different scan sites and ended up reading a lot of shoujo and isekai slop unironically but thats not really relevant.
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i cant seem to get any site to load the whole thing. the artist whose doing "the summer hikaru died" did a little thing with characters who are almost the same, but the plot is "extroverts friend, an extrovert does anything the other one wants". "i-im not gay im just c-curious" brojobs ensue, i think, but i cant seem to find any website that doesnt stop loading after page 20 or so.
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>>3074686
it stops loading right here, if it even loads to this point and im looking at all sorts of different sites. this happens a lot, for whatever reason. why on earth are sites dedicated to broadcasting doujins having issues showing...the whole doujin.
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>>3074361
nta but I also loved No Reason I really liked how it made it clear how retarded the mc was which lets me not feel guilt about his humiliation and mindbreak because he deserves it in my eyes which just makes it all the better.
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>>3066619
anyone have recs for BL anime WITHOUT
-an annoying twink(given, Sasaki to Miyano)
-a RETARDED fuckass artstyle(you know the ones)
-and mega-fag stereotypes(boys that are basically girls, giant men, etc. just give me normal people)
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non-sexual is PREFERRED but honestly if it fits this criteria idgaf
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does anyone remember that doujin of that extrovert blonde/white hair kid whose friends with the shy introvert black hair kid, and for whatever reason, the shy black hair kid just does anything the white/blonde hair kid asks. homework/chores/pranks/dares. and the white/blonde hair notices and starts to wonder what the "limit" is, and "jokingly" asks for a blowjob, and thats actually where the doujin starts, hes wondering "how did i get here" while getting...well, yeah?
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>>3076431
damn it i literally just posted a cropped image from it and now i cant even find the cropped shitpost. im a disaster, everythings going wrong kill me now
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Do you guys have any recomendations on thriller-ish or horror-like BL?
It's been years since I've read one that I actually liked.
I don't mind if it has rape and shit, but I'm not a fan of the "oh nooo pleaseee stoooop... oh dear oh dear why it feels so goooood" stuff. I've been looking for something more like Feeding Lamb, Killing Stalking, Heartless, but nothing comes even close to them.
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>>3078641
>email from my dead lover
was good, read it awhile back and it gets pretty interesting, its not rapey if I recall.
>yuan everlasting (rapey)
>Koisuru Psycho no Shirayuki-kun
>that one-shot hollow portrait
>the rotten (rapey and zombies)
>phantom/ghost gate (rapey but ghosts)
>non zero sum (psychological horror, guy gets raped and stalked by 3 friends, fairly realistic emptional reactions)
there's not a lot of good or varied horror ones that are also BL that I can recall. Many stories with both genres are one-shots :^l
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>>3078686
thats a bit of a tough ask
>explicit gay sex
it always either gets censored or cut out, but if you actually search aggregate sites its not hard to find yaoi/BL with those genres and themes
>kaliscan
>vymanga
>asurascan (mostly action not BL)
>bato
>yaoimangaonline (uncensored versions)
a lot of action series actually have hot characters but no gay shit or porn ;_;
maybe Codename Anastasia or Red Candy? its like espionage stuff. If you want like fantasy or scifi probably esper/guide stories
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anyone got any recs for doujins that focus on the reality of sex? ages ago i found this random doujin that might of just been the authors real life turned into a doujin. it was about two japanese looking dudes living together, the "cheese and beef soup" meme tier sorta looking guys. they were drawn realistically, looked like actual japanese people (pretty unflattering as well, it really did a good job of capturing "these are two real people, not superstars or models" look). they have been living together for a few years and have done lots of oral related sex stuff, but one of them ask/says they want to take it to the next step and have penetrative anal sex. the other one agrees to it, and then they....research. they dont have mobile phones or the internet to search out information on how two dudes do it, so they go a literal library. and find actual books. and them going through the ENTIRE process of douching, including all the awkward stuff.
it was really neat. it just seemed 100% real. it wasnt "hot", it was slow, fumbly, step by step trial stuff. really interesting angle, never seen anything like it. the sorta porn where you forget about the boner and get invested
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So glad to see these threads still going. Anyway for the anons that buy the physical volumes, have you ever noticed differences between them and the serialized release (like additional panels/removed scenes)? And have you found these changes an improvement to the final work or the opposite?
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for those reading the summer hikari died, the page is loading correctly now, so if you wanna see those characters in the unfinished abandoned version, here it is
https://myreadingmanga.info/mokumoku-ren-a-classmate-wholl-do-anything -for-you-eng/
instead of it being about horrifying body shifting demons, its just the two same characters but its "haha this introvert does anything i tell him to do...haha what if i ask him to su-"
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>>3080119
this would be interesting in regards to summer hikari died as well, i remember when it was being posted here unserialized or whatever, we would sometimes find chapters with entire pages completely different, and it would be confusing figuring out which version was "correct". generally if it was gayer, it was less likely to actually be the final cut.
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I'm hoping someone can help me find an old doujin I read. I had it bookmarked before but for some reason, I can no longer find it anywhere. For the record, it's very graphic/pure hentai. Tags were yaoi, DILF, rape, NTR.
There are 3 separate doujins, but the first one sets it up as a young man and his girlfriend are on an onsen trip. The girl's father is with them. When they all fall asleep, the girlfriend's dad starts touching the boyfriend and eventually fucks him.
The 2nd one is basically more of the father grooming the boyfriend by fucking him whenever the boyfriend visits the girlfriend. Finally in the 3rd one the boyfriend and girlfriend are on a date at a festival but the father also fucks him there and he ends up getting completely mindbroken.
Please, if anyone can tell me the title or the artist I will owe you my life. I remember this so distinctly since I don't know a lot of gay NTR where there is an established relationship and the girl is the one getting cucked.
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>>3080220
The artist is Seki Sabato, the series is called Boyfriend Shikkaku
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>>3080237
better give us some updates as you re-read that shit. seriously the appropriate threads for this shit is dead as fuck. just add an update of your thought and progress as you read that shit literally anywhere. everythings dead.
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Happy to help
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/y/ has been slower then ever since 4chan went down for that period of time.
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>>3080238
I just re-read it, and it was even better than I remembered. I like that even though it's the quasi "faceless old man" trope, we still do see glimpses of the dad and know he's not hideous or fat. These pwp stories are a dime a dozen, but I really like that instead of the typical hetero "my dad stole me from my boyfriend," it's "my girlfriend's dad stole me from her?!" The snippet into the future at the end of it is great, and I love the physical change in the uke since he's now fully an adult.
I'm not usually an NTR fan, but the atypical scenario (and amazing art) really drew me to this years ago, and I'm really thankful I was able to re-read it again!
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so im kinda new to bl/yaoi and i would like to ask for some recommendations.
ive read distorted soul and i found that very nice save for the direction its gone in towards the end, where all sense of romance is increasingly dead between them and theyre just using each other for sex. i read killing stalking and chapters 50-65 were bordering perfect, i was really hoping they would take it in a bonnie and clyde direction but i wound up being very disappointed by the ending.
can anyone recommend something that has both good sense of aesthetics and romance, along with some kind of drama?
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>>3070321
New cup soon
>>3080345
Unless it's the old 90s stuff, nothing is made in that kind or story style these days.
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>>3080240
Discord channels for scan groups and other websites, I don't post on 4chan anymore. The captcha time increase is what initially killed it for me but I also think the discussion is better, less terminally online scrote topics to scroll through
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This is a shot in the dark, but I'm trying to recall a manga I read a while back. I would describe it as a slow burn, wholesome slice of life, set mostly in school. They pretty much only got together at the end after a time skip, and one guy confessed his feelings through a written letter since the other was moving out of the city. The time skip/epilogue then revealed that they ended up living together. I couldn't remember the art style much, maybe they had like oval eyes.
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Manga usually is more mature, more emotional depth. Of course there are comedy manga too but the dramatic ones are usually better. Also usually revolves around high school or work situations. Manhwa is generally a lot more fixated on college and college drinking parties for some reason. The romance has less depth and nuance in general in manhwa, just very pandering without much bite to it. You'll have manhwa that go on for 70+ chapters and it's very boring tame safey safey stuff where the drama is like "aaah I don't know what gift to get him for anniversary" or "weird creep is stalking uke, seme is badass and stops him!". Not to say there aren't bad manga and good manhwa (I still think Killing Stalking is one of the best written works even if it isn't traditional BL) but in general manga is just better.
My biggest problem with manga though is that it can be too trope-y. Waaaaay too much boring jealousy drama in the middle. Waaaaay too much "I fell on top of him and we fell in love" crap. Manga also almost always has to have the seme be attractive to women and make a point of showing HOW ATTRACTIVE AND AMAZINGLY HOT the seme is too every woman he walks past. Shit is so stupid and cringe and obviously women being unable to find a man attractive unless other women pine after him, even when they're reading about him being with another man. Also hate in Manhwa how every guy is drawn as some weird roblox-esque tiny headed, huge bodied gigachad when Koreans are literally the last people who look like that. Makes it harder to visualize the characters as real people. You pick your poison and hope you find good shit overall
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>>3082298
https://myreadingmanga.info/sagan-sagan-old-fashioned-cupcake-eng/
Example of good manga that isn't trope-y. It does the "women are all attracted to him!" thing but for the uke instead which is at least subversive. Wish shit like this got adaptions and not shit like fucking Sasaki and Miyano or Cherry Magic crap, just the most juvenile BLs possible. At least Summer Hikaru Died has a good adaption.
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>>3082298
>obviously women being unable to find a man attractive unless other women pine after him
More like it’s just an easy way to demonstrate that a character is considered popular and attractive in universe. There are some manga that do this but with the popular guy being fawned over by other guys but that would require making everyone gay so it’s usually done in comedy/gag manga.
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>>3083432
all chiral games, all pilslash games, all parade games, all love/destroy games, all adelta games, nie no machi random indie games
even some shit english bara ones on steam
i got laid off from corona and vn maxxed on my savings for like 2 years
but trying to keep this thread on topic lol
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>>3066619
Question: Why does BL only make couples with two bottoms???? Do women know how the gay world works in real life?
Two bottoms don't date each other in gay world, unless they share an apartment only to call tops in Grindr or Blued
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>>3083463
I am a huge and effeminate faggot and I couldn't agree more. I really don't understand the BL logic, if these women don't find masculine traits like strong jaw, hunter eyes, beard or body hair attractive, why do they have gay couple fetish? Every effeminate guy loves a manly top/bottom or a daddy or whatever.
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>>3083465
That's strange because every effeminate twink/femboy I've seen are always with other femboys/twinks. Speaking as a hairy masculine top at least it's from what I've seen. Not many qt bottoms like masculine hairy dudes. Only similair to them
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Can anyone rec media that has this kind of relationship?
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>>3075790
check out thai/indonesian stuff
im just reading here to entertain my BL loving partner, much love to yall
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Cup is live, we play /vr/
>>3083463
Because they don't know actual gays or fags. Just got to look at the ai stuff that's being crapped out.
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>>3083463
I wish you'd tell that to the wokejoshis and pooners on Tumblr and Xitter. Some claim that the typical masculine top and femenine bottom couples only exist in the fantasies of straight femoids. They think they're very subversive and call those who prefer traditional bottom-top dynamics boring
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not an advertisement or anything, but Heyuri now has a Fujoshi board for female otaku (/j/), its new and lacking users at the moment, if you want a place to discuss fujo stuff that might be off-topic from this board, its worth considering, im not going to link it because this isnt an advertisement.
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Okay so I've gotten super into BL Webtoons recently and I'm looking to expand into manga. [spoiler]I hate the BL manhwas though so here's hoping Japan can do better[/spoiler]
I really like stuff that has a healthy balance of romance and plot. Like Cinderella Boy and Hazeshift. But I also like wholesome silly cute boys doing wholesome silly cute things like Boyfriends.
Oh and I HATE super slow burns. I'm okay with pacing and build up but I want the boys to actually BE in a relationship for a significant portion of the story.
Any recommends?
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Did not know spoilers don't work on this board. I usually just visit to lurk and fap
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