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if Ultimate Gohan is SS Kefla tier doesn't than mean there isn't a very big gap between Buu saga power levels and Super power levels?
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>>285786484
Goku is a cuck. Vegeta beat him thrice.
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The canon timeline? OG -> Z -> GT.
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>>285786517
Nope, you are simply delusional
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>there will never be a Dragon Ball Super : Tien
I hate this franchise so much
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>>285786517
>she RAN
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>>285786517
Correct.
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>>285786559
Why is Tenshinhan so beloved by many, yet makes a specific group seethe uncontrollably?
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>>285786616
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>WEAKjita spent several years training and had to get a magical, mindbreaking power boost just to catch up to an 11-year-old boy's strength, who became that strong after a single year in the Time Chamber with his father, CHADku
>CHADku had SS3 up his sleeve the entire time, further mindbreaking the Prince of Nothing so hard that he dropped out of the rivalry entirely after watching him go toe-to-toe with Kid Buu
>WEAKjita reignited this one-sided rivalry in Super, but ended up watching from his spectator's cuck chair while CHADku fought evenly with Jiren, after transcending mortal techniques and becoming GoD-level
>WEAKjita tried to match CHADku's Angel powers by training with a GoD, but only attained a form proven useless in the same chapter it was introduced
>WEAKjita was surpassed by GODhan again, shortly after
Hey, Bejitabro, you dropped this.
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>>285786601
>>285786633
>they had to use Shenron to resurrect Tien after Gohan killed him
KEKAROOPIE!
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Reminder that not even Toei considers that Giant Turd is canon yup yup.
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>601
>r*ddit filename
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>>285786484
That’s Base Gohan.
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>>285786639
>>285786639
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>>285786639
All true!
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>>285786592
Nope
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>>285786707
Isn’t that the robot guy from Chrono Trigger?
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>>285786770
No, that's Bulma.
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https://youtu.be/tfy4p7u3Xik?si=zicLq7KgWQaab4eC
Torishima isn't as bad as I thought. He really is the reason why Toriyama's career was able to take off so well
I also never knew that Nero the Emperor inspired King Piccolo
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>>285786799
He was based.
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>LSFPS4LB Broly > SFPS4LB Xeno Vegito + SSB CC Vegito
>SFPS4LB Xeno Gogeta > Transcended LSFPS4LB Broly (enhanced by Dark King Demigra)
Why is Vegito so weak?

>Bonus: LSS Broly > Jiren (he had to get Hit to help him end the fight quickly)
KWAB.
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>>285786897
Nope, faggot
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>>285786897
He's wrong and a bigot
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>>285786938
>>285786954
>zero arguments
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>>285786954
Fuck you talking about?
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>>285786897
I think he’s right about a lot of things but wrong on others.
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Dragon Ball needs to be like JJK and have actual useful women.
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>>285786931
Vegito is a jobber because Bejita is the dominant one in that fusion. With a jobber as the dominant personality, it's only natural that the fusion be more inclined to fucking up.
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>>285787018
LMAO nah they are eye candy for our amusement
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>>285787031
Facts detected.
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JJK needs to be like Dragon Ball and have actual attractive women.
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>>285786975
He didn’t write it.
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>>285787018
Literally none of JJK's women matter.
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Could Gunku beat Sorbet?
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>JJK
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>>285787055
It already does.
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Was this the most vicious beatdown in the series? Both physically & psychologically Vegeta had lost completely.
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>>285787124
…not.
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>>285787024
>provided the name
>provided main designs
>provided initial concept
>enjoyed it and hopes (You) will too
The problem?
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>>285787124
Oh it does? Name ten.
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>>285787148
Wrong, homo
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DB Multiverse > OG/Z/GT/Super/Heroes/Daima
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>>285787067
>still no argumentos
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>>285787187
Why is she red? Stupid monkey needs COLOR correction
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>>285787229
Go shill your tranny fanfic somewhere else, faggot
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>>285787229
Kill yourself you French faggot.
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>>285787230
You lost
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>>285787229
Fucking grow up, Salagir.
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>>285787264
>hasn't made a single argument
>y-you lost *farts*
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>>285787272
>Toei/Akira Toriyama steals what they want from Multiverse and then kills Son Bra.
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>>285787229
That shit isn’t even canon to itself, let alone the source material.
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>>285787387
>faggy fanfiction
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>>285787130
His beatdown at the hands of PERFECT CELL was pretty rough both because he let it happen and the fact that Trunks didn’t know that Bejita knew that Trunks thought he was stronger and just protecting his little princely pride lol haha
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>>285787229
Multiverse is a better sequel to Z because it treats all the characters better.
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>>285787424
And yet they decided to copy it.
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>>285786484
Characters in Buu Saga were already universal.
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>>285787522
Nobody in all of Japan has heard of crap let alone the franchise’s big shots
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>>285787521
K, still not gonna read it
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>>285787522
Sort of an obvious idea methinks.
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>>285787549
>>285787272
There is a Japanese translation with Japanese commenters on the site.
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>>285787584
>>285787598
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Our FUARKING hero… and Goku is there too I guess.
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>>285787706
I don't see GODhan in this picture.
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>>285787706
THE HOPE OF THE UNIVERSE, and... the balding midget who cries a lot.
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>>285787706
>Dood let's announce an anime 2 years before it starts
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My hero is so lucky.
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>>285787875
Shit sucks did the same thing with sparking zero fucking world is all hype.
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>>285787939
Trunks fucked her and became his own dad.
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>>285787939
Based Future Gohanbro.
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>>285787832
Goku's hairline isn't that bad
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>>285787939
I fucked that
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>>285788077
Oolong...
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>>285787387
Hey cmon man not cool those girls are underage
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G-Gokubros??????
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>>285788154
>moralfagging
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>>285787409
>>285787521
>Freeza doesn’t know Goku, but sees that he resembles the Saiyan that rebelled against him 30 years ago
Meanwhile SHARTlagir thinks Freeza personally ordered Kakarot to be sent to Earth as part of his master plan.
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Left or right?
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>>285788184
CHADlagir version is better.
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>>285779475
Trying to give the benefit of the doubt. But honestly that's not exactly enough to fix what will have to be a haphazard adaptation.
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>>285787939
Yamamoto-Doujin’s proportions are the best.
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>>285788077
Everyone...
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>>285787939
My hero Goku, of course.
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>>285788197
SS5
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>>285787387
>>285787424
>>285787522
DBS copied AI-generated futa porn?
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SOVL.
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ENTER: Pan Calvo
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>>285788204
Nope, faggot
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>more than half the list that manga fanboys use to say dragon Ball super is adult is just MHA volumes.
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>>285788318
Fuck off
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>>285788197
Left
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>>285787875
>announce it two years early
>only goes for 12 episodes
>takes six years for the next season
It’d be one thing if this was the run of the mill seasonal slide of life anime, but this shouldn’t be happening for the actual big name stuff too, especially if they’re still just going to look like rough drafts half the time.
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“Oh Bejita it seems I’ve misplaced my saiyan dildo would you be a sweetheart and let me borrow your penis.”
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>>285788197
Hate both.
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>>285788549
That's Cheat-Cheat for you!
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>>285788549
Kek it’s implied she says this
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>>285787875
They announced the moro arc early to revert the humongous damage Daipa flopping did to the IP's reputation.
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>>285788610
What DO you like, chud?
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>>285788197
I flip flop. I honestly hate that vomit yellow pants GTku wears but Daipaku really needs a belt. Daipaku's proportions are ridiculous but I like the colors more. GTku's SS4 is better written by far, Daipaku's just appears as cheap fanservice and it has no lore.
GTku I guess, barely. Maybe in another decade they'll take another crack at SS4.
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>>285788376
Nice b8
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>>285788549
Imagine the bush...
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>>285788689
She taken many BBCs in the canon Grok movies.
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Reminder that Goku fisted Jiren so hard that his asshole couldnt close and that Jiren was forced to eat his own Shart because he forgot to train his ass so Goku's fist was strong enough to push his shart up his mouth.
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The fact that people unironically think they're going to remake Zamasu or the ToP is silly.
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>>285786484
Super is movie canon nonsense, but yes. Super Buu cliffed the normal power progression in dbz so hard that Goku could have gone super saiyan 4 and then 5 and still lose. Thats why we got the potential of the unlimited potential character unlocked and fused characters where two fused children without going super saiyan could have made super perfect cell explode from a casual strike, then have said character go super saiyan 3 and still have it only briefly match the weakest form of super buu.
Buuhan could have fought Jiren.
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>>285788866
>Super is movie canon nonsense
No
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>>285788766
Musk-sama...
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>>285788907
>No
Yes
BotG is movie canon, super is just extending the movie canon. Super is essentially Broly movie 2 and 3. Daipa is the actual dbz canon I'm afraid.
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True Canon:
>Z
Hard Canon:
>DB
Soft Canon:
>GT
Uncanon:
>Super movies
Hard Noncanon:
>Super anime
Soft Noncanon:
>Super manga
Recanon:
>Daima
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What if caulifla was just a ki construct created by kale?
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>>285788440
>>only goes for 12 episodes
>>takes six years for the next season
Source?
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>>285786484
The Ultimate Gohan from ToP is far strong than the Ultimate Gohan from the Boo arc.

>>285788197
Neither, SS4 Xeno Goku.
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>>285789009
>The Ultimate Gohan from ToP is far strong than the Ultimate Gohan from the Boo arc.
Gohan's entire deal is not training and becoming weaker. ToP Gohan is weaker, not stronger. At best he got back in shape.
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>>285788804
They could remake them, but what they'd need most is rewrites which is definitely not happening since Toei and the majority of fans (i.e spics) don't understand what's actually wrong with these arcs outside of the animation. Daima is proof that these guys just don't know how to do ANYTHING right.
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>>285788950
> Daipa is the actual dbz canon I'm afraid.
Nope
>>285788975
Og DB is canon, faggot
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>>285789009
It's just an all-around great look.
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>>285789151
Is there a reason for any of it? All of GOKU’S CANON OUTFITS have reasons for him wearing them.
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Can wait for them to adapt this in 2030.
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>>285786484
I know it's tripfaggotry, avatar, and overall faggotry in these threads. But only now do I understand how awful Toyotaro is as an artist.
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>>285788689
Kaioken, original super saiyan and ultra instinct omen.
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>>285789203
In-universe, no.
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>>285789298
Smells to me like fanfictionslop thenbeit
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Saiyans are overall glass cannons. Strong ki power but pretty bad durability.
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>>285787187
Saiyan pussy belongs to human cock
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>>285789057
>Gohan's entire deal is not training and becoming weaker. ToP Gohan is weaker, not stronger. At best he got back in shape.
That's because you think DBS is like DBZ (and even in DBZ the power scaling was already fucked up, see Kid Trunks and Goten). ToP Ultimate Gohan is stronger than his Boo arc counterpart, Dragon Ball Super's entire deal is that characters are strong as the plot demands them to be, hence Ultimate Gohan's huge power despite slacking off or Android 17's huge power boost after "fighting" human poachers.

That's why I wouldn't even care if Yamcha or Tien appear in a new arc using an "Ultimate Kaioken" that makes them SS3-tier or something.

>>285789151
Yes, but Xeno Goku actually made me like SS4, the palette suits it, unlike the awful yellow pants of GT. Daipa's SS4 isn't even worthy a comment.
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>>285789442
The worst thing DBS did was give annoying side characters relevance. Freeza is entertaining despite being out of character for Goku and his friends to hang out with him. But I just don't care about these characters.
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>>285789386
It’s the reverse, for them
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>>285789538
Krillin and Gohan are so lucky...!!
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>>285788549
What are Saiyan penises shaped like?
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>>285789565
Filtered
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>>285789626
Like human ones
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>>285789601
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>>285789716
Can I see some visual evidence of this, please? Pretty please?
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>>285789759
The manga, when kid Goku shows his dingles
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>>285789759
Golu and gohan were both naked as ozaroo
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>>285787130
Videl and popovich ofc
Literally a little girl being beaten to a pulp by a grown ass man in front of her loved ones
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>exclusive behind the scenes look at dragon ball galactic patrol edition
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>>285789648
Piccolo is a babysitter, Freeza is gay, and the others are boring. I'm almost starting to say that GT was good. The series had the right ideas. It's just that they were poorly executed. Still, the best thing about DBS is the first movie, even the design and characterization of Beerus makes him better than every other character they created. Another thing I like about the movie is the apparent lack of plot, which is refreshing for a shonen story. It also has the best fights post-Buu saga. In fact, Beerus vs. Goku is better than most of the fights in the Buu saga. The anime did a lot of lifting. People watched the anime first and have many of their opinions colored by the adaptation. “Toei is evil,” but without them, people wouldn't be that fond of the manga.
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>>285789786
>>285789839
Those scenes were SO cute!!
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>>285787130
This cell jr was born 5 minutes prior to this btw.
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>>285789859
>Still, the best thing about DBS is the first movie
Broly?
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>>285789842
And a mutated one at that
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>>285789786
>>285789839
I was hoping for evidence of them as adults…
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>>285788197
It's a visual presentation problem. Daima looks better than GT because GT's SS4 never had fancy-schmancy animation for its fight scenes or attacks. Give GT 4 Daima's staff, its attacks some better presentation and execution, and maybe a new one or something, and people will switch up.
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>>285789895
That’s just how kids wake up their parents
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>>285789917
Beerus. I don't care about the Broly movie.
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>>285787229
Multiverse is somehow the Anti-Dragon Ball despite all the effort poured into it.
>overly autistic writing (cares about the Kais' rules way too much, bends over backwards to have stuff like weakass Future Gohan taking care of Dabura and Babidi instead of just changing how events proceeded which is what Toriyama did eventually)
>extremely biased to OCs like Bra and Gast (Super Buu is an honorary OC)
>Training is straight up worthless compared to cheats like Magic and Absorption
>any trace of Goku is absent in Vegito, dude is like if two Vegetas fused together
>the fucking cheating in what should be a fun tournament (sneaking senzu beans, teleporting opponents far into space and out of bounds)
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Post Z Toei just loves making shit tier street level battles on characters that are suppose to be thousands of times stronger than OG. I've seen better destruction in One Piece.
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>>285786517
There is no Z.
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>>285786758

>>285787156
>>285786517
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>>285790170
I liked the powers in one piece like back in enies lobby because of how interesting they were. Now it’s just laser beams and punching harderest kind of like dragon ball without the heroes.
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>>285789842
>popovich
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>>285790227
Fanfiction
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>>285790147
Multiverse has a lot of problems, but the current main villain is the best villain of anything dragon ball related since Janemba. The current "trapped in stopped time/devoured universes setting where they can only really move thanks to piccolo making an area of unfrozen time is the best "challenge" the galaxy busting cast has seen since the end of Z. Just a shame it is stuck in multiverse.
Compare that with Supers autist god, destruction jobbers and androgynous angels with biggerer power levels. Such a shame.
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Kwab
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>>285786565
>she
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Kwab
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Kwab
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>>285790457
>>285790442
Kwab
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Kwab
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>>285790087
That’s a DBZ movie.
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>cuckold nonsense
Kwab
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Bejitahog predicts 6 weeks of winter
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>>285789291
>kaioken
Based
>original super saiyan
Based
>Shitper form
CRINGE. Kill yourself immediately.
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Kwab
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Kwab
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>>285790563
Seethe
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I wasn’t even trying to start this I just found that video image and title funny, vegeta is a very compelling character despite being short and bald and walled since he was a toddler
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ENOUGH kwabposting
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>025
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>>285786484
Everyone is way weaker in the Super manga than in the anime, this has been observed for years.
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Is /dbs/ back?
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tarble is the strongest sayian
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>>285790147
>Future Gohan taking care of Dabura and Babidi
That was one of the worst chapters I have ever read in my life.
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>>285790729
You missed an “l” out but the answer is yes.
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>>285790730
….on opposite day
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>>285790317

>>285786449
>"Nakatsuru-kun is so skilled, and has such an understanding of the peculiarities of my drawings, that there have been times that even I have been like, "Did I draw this character design, or did Nakatsuru-kun?," not being able to tell the difference"
Nakatsuru managed to elmulate Toriyama's artsyle and received high praise for it.

>"to enjoy watching the original Dragon Ball's grand side-story Dragon Ball GT"
The 'original Dragon Ball' is mentioned, which is a direct reference to the original Dragon Ball (aka the original Dragon Ball manga).

>"you will be pleased"
Clearly implying that (You) will enjoy watching Dragon Ball GT (the original Dragon Ball story).
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>>285790729
No. I'm just replying to myself using my fused collective consciousness and multiple bodies
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>>285790730
How come his brother went bald and he didn’t?
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>>285789057
>>285789442

Gohan went back to training since Goku Black in the manga, which is months before ToP. Stop using the retconned anime as the basis of anything. Erase that SLOP off your brain.
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>>285790883
>grasping at straws this badly
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I looked him up and the version with bangs looks way better, he looks like a little goblin here.
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>>285790729
Our hero (and good goku) never left
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>>285790914
Gohan is so cringey.
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>>285790914
I really like Gohan taking the initiative with his training whenever he has spare time in the manga, but it’s souring to the tone of the arc since it’s a bonus page gag. At least it’s better than the anime wasting a whole episode on Gohan and Trunks eating ice cream together.
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>>285790948
>proto-Daipa
I hate Minus so much.
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>>285791098
plusle lost
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>>285791098
I saw on reddit (please don’t crucify me) that someone redesigned the daima boys to actually look like boys instead of weird mini adults and it looked way better.
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>>285791134
Who?
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>>285791147
Pokemon garbo ignore
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>>285791136
Vegeta doesn’t even look like a child here. He looks like an infant with his giant head and tiny body.
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>>285791209
His horrible matchstick legs make him look like an emaciated old man it’s vile, and toddlers actually have quite plump limbs. Little goku in the original stuff had the right amount of chunkiness imo.
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>>285790914
Bonus page gag by the chosen successor, good intentions for sure, but Toriyama is the word of god and his stance was very clear: Gohan is a slacker.

He was slacking off again in Super Hero, manga-including.
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>>285791174
How did you know?
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>>285791346
included*
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>>285791365
Shut up
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>>285791346
Toyotaro will have Gohan going Super Saiyan 10 and fight EGP and Toriyama won't be able to do anything besides spinning in his grave.
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>>285790948
I dont get why people hate this. He says saiyan hair doesnt change and he isnt old enough to lose his hair.
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>>285791536
Because nobody wants to look at a balding little boy he should be cute, plus, his body proportions are also ugly.
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>>285791425
Thank goodness, no more stale character arcs.
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>SHARTper Hero
Are we still defending this dogshit movie?
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>>285791602
Going to hard disagree again. Goku eats well so he should be chubby like that. Bejita fights more intense battles and likely eats less high fat/protein foods than Kid Goku so hes more lean. I do hate how skinny kid Goku is in modern stuff though. That looks way worse than skinny Bejita.
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objectively toriyama would make more mistakes as the linework continued to get denser. Adding the more detail and stretching the proportions to be longer, and constant full body shots shows the weakness of his heavy caricature art style. dead giveaway being vegeta's forehead.
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>>285791654
No no no you are WRONG, if he’s a strong child, why does he have such flaccid skinny looking legs/ arms? I won’t upload irl examples, but an athletic boy of his age would be stockier, he looks in that pic like he barely even walks. It just looks sort of gross, it’s a bad design.
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>>285791422
Hmm.....
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>>285791602
WHEW!!!
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>>285791808
They are right.
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>>285791791
If he doesnt eat right yes I would expect him to be more lean and have more defined muscles. Goku was eating giant fish and other giant wildlife everyday while Bejita likely ate like shit while working with Freeza and only ate after battles so he likely wasnt filling himself like Kid Goku. Kid Goku again had a better consistent diet so he has that bit of chub. I think theyd look better if Bejita was thinner and lean and Goku was more chubby like his classic look. Bejita is a slave while Goku isnt. I also suspect thats why his growth is so stunted. Freeza likely had him on carbs and not alot of meat. Bejita only got large amount of meat after eating alien people. It just isnt as consistent as Goku's diet.
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>>285791714
I'm reading manga first time now, I feel like toriyama's art peaked at the very beginning of the series up to about the end of the Tenkaichi Budokai, nothing has really "wowed" me since then although it is still enjoyable to look at. I'm at the Baba arc now for reference
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>>285791987
It peaks again in Saiyan/Namek then goes to shit right when Android starts
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>>285791917
You are saying logical things but I still don’t want to look at whatever
>>285790948
is, kek. But also, I feel like if vegeta was fighting he wouldn’t have those very squishy and skinny legs, they don’t look muscular to me. It just looks weird and no child actually looks like that irl, and as another anon pointed out, his head is too big, he looks like a funko pop. I doubt also that they thought as deeply as you do about it, since they all looked like that in that new show (daima). I think it’s just bad art direction
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>>285791902
Cute wife!
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>>285791917
Then how come Raditz was taller than Goku?
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>>285792049
It’s less of a hassle to draw stick figures it’s not deep bro
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>>285792132
I always found it funny how they kind of dress similar.
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>>285792049
It’s because Akira didn’t care anymore by that point.
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>all of this headcanon babble over an inferior change in the art style
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>>285792049
His head isnt that big he just had big ass hair. Happy its nice and full looking. Sometimes it can look really short and shitty. I also like that he has the rounded saiyan saga Bejita eyes.
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>>285787939
Well did she?
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>>285792153
That’s fair to say, but less hassle seems to mean looks worse in the end. I appreciated our discussion anyway.
>>285792168
It seems to be a trend in anime imo, people have forgotten that most little kids have babyfat and are chunky, not only is it more cute but it promotes a healthier image of what toddlers and babies should look like. I don’t like the chubby erasure and making really little boys too skinny.
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>>285792337
Yes.
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>>285792228
It makes sense, all things considered.
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>>285790883
>Nakatsuru managed to elmulate Toriyama's artsyle and received high praise for it.
Okay? This is completely irrelevant.
>The 'original Dragon Ball' is mentioned, which is a direct reference to the original Dragon Ball (aka the original Dragon Ball manga).
No shit the original Dragon Ball is mentioned. Generally speaking, you're going to fucking mention the source material when talking about fanfiction.
>Clearly implying that (You) will enjoy watching Dragon Ball GT (the original Dragon Ball story).
Again, entirely irrelevant.

GT is a non-canon side story not written by Toriyama. Whether or not you personally enjoy it does not affect this fact of reality. You lost. You got fucking violated. You are a dog whimpering at my feet and your concession has been accepted.
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>>285792371
>It seems to be a trend in anime imo, people have forgotten that most little kids have babyfat and are chunky, not only is it more cute but it promotes a healthier image of what toddlers and babies should look like. I don’t like the chubby erasure and making really little boys too skinny.
Not to be a moralfag, but you phrased it in a "particular" way.
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>>285792298
This is sorta my point anon, as he looks amazing here, but the kid version just looks like if you shrank him and removed any muscle tone (not like a child). He looks a little older than the other pic here, but I think it’s a way better version of a young vegeta. He looks like an arrogant little prince and not some weird starved gnome
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>>285792141
Freeza likely let Raditz eat more than Bejita. Wouldn't be surpised. Raditz also likely had a high protein diet early on because his mom is a butcher. Bejita was born under Freeza's rule so so malnutrition thing probably started like right when Bejita was born. Would be a good way to keep him weak too. Raditz is weak so Freeza sees no reason not to feed he pet money better. It probably misses off Bejita too. Probably why he didnt want to revive him and never saw him as worthy of anything unlike Nappa who he thought deserved a saiyans death. I think it's intersting nappa doesnt really seem to hate Raditz and wanted to revive him. (Freeza also remembers Raditz's name while fighting kid Gohan on Namek)
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>>285792337
>>285792406
How much time after the Namek Saga was Trunks born?
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>>285792476
Then he ate nothing but sweet chichi pussy and got a buff neck
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>>285792429
Trueroooo, Gonorrhea Turd is a non-canon flop that stopped getting new content decades ago kek.
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>>285792503
>pic
I read it Jeff Bennett’s voice
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>>285792454
Think of it like paintings of cherubs and stuff like that, it’s not necessarily SEXUAL, there is just something pleasing to my mind about well fed happy + healthy children, though now I type this I’ve made it sound way worse lmao. I think it’s bad to promote it being normal that an idealised child of that age should be really svelte in the way an attractive adult would be, if that makes sense. I actually think what they’re doing now is weirder and putting adult beauty standards onto toddlers, like trying to make them into twinks or something.
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>>285792540
Kekytruthy. It only gets referenced vaguely in shit like Heroes, and, even then, they don't use the actual GT characters, just Xeno counterparts with GT forms.
I'm glad GT is dead and gone, its fans reduced to mere ghosts, haunting empty halls.
Super has a far stronger legacy.
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>>285792562
Kid Bejita shouldnt look fed and happy. That's my point. Its a great contrast with Chubby happy Kid Goku.
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What’s Toriyama up to right now?
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>>285792614
I get it from that perspective and I think your view on it is valid even if I don’t agree fully, but it’s an imaginative way to explain it for sure (in a good way).
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>Kid Bejita shouldnt look fed and happy because I’m a Gokubro
Fixed.
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>>285792465
In this case you have the line about Saiyan hair never changing clashing with that design. I agree about modern Toriyama's anatomy issues though. Although the problem isn't the anatomy itself, but just that the overall design and drawing don't look good.

>>285792168
It's really more that Toriyama somehow thinks that this style looks good. If you look at his modern Dragonquest art, you get similar proportion issues, but with much more detailed outfits.
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>>285792624
SHITperfags are pathetic people.
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>>285792624
Seethe, Paco, that’s just being based
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>>285792624
>brownspic
He’s not a GTbro though?
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>>285792639
Oh im not saying your wrong for hating the new design. I get it. I hate most of the skinny design. Skinny adult Goku pisses me off the most. Chi-chi would NEVER let Goku get so thin.
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>>285792650
Learn to read, Bejitatard
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>>285792624
Your fregolis won't bring GT back, loser.
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>>285786484
Ultimate Gohan outscaled Buu arc straight into DBS powerlevels. We just didn't realize how outrageously strong he really was at the time because Buutenks was equally overpowered to DBS powerlevels as well. It took until the Universe 6 Tournament for Goku to achieve SSB Kaioken and finally surpass Gohan's peak from the Buu saga. Fitting, since it took Goku 7 years of training to surpass Cell Arc Gohan SS2.
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>>285792624
>got utterly dismantled, both by me and Toriyama's own words
>throws a shitfit
Very typical.
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>>285792671
>>285792672
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>>285792723
>>285792716
Let us be cordial, gentlemen.
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>>285792758
>spergs out and screams "samefag"
>gets told to fuck off
>o-okay everyone let's just calm down
Eat shit and fucking die.
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>>285792715
Nice fanfic bro.
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>>285792784
I didn’t read any of the posts from either of you
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>>285792813
>h-hehe joke's on you, I'm illiterate!
Insufferable fucking waste of oxygen.
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GT only lives on through a few toy releases coming here and there, and any potential sequel to GT has clearly been blocked, and will remain blocked, because Super is a major cash cow for everyone involved, and it still has so much potential to be expanded on.
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>>285792811
Reminder Gohan was also the first guy to land any hits on Beerus in Battle of Gods (got him in a full nelson)
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>>285792834
I know you are but what am I?
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>>285792715
>Ultimate Gohan outscaled Buu arc straight into DBS powerlevels
Uh huh.
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>>285792836
>potential sequel to GT
GT itself removed the chance for that by having horrible ratings and trying to end Goku's story permanently with no takebacksies lol
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>>285792699
>admitting it
Good rat.
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>>285792624
SUPREMEperstuds are terrific people.
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>>285792854
Godhan TANKED that btw
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>>285792854
Kek what a jobber.
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>>285792919
I bet he did, champ. I bet he did.
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>>285792876
Nope, just telling the truth
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The poster above me is correct and everyone who disagrees is a cuckolded idiot. Send.
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>>285792866
Of course. What kind of sequel could they make to it? One about Goku Jr.? One about Pan? Who gives a fuck about either of those characters?
Pan, in particular, is a boring, weak jobber, and made GT even worse than it would've been without her.
Goten would've made a far, far better addition to the main cast in the early parts of the series.
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>GTard melty
He is really insecure for someone calling this turd "canon" sequel LMAO
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>>285792993
Hi really into the discussion of fighting cartoons for babies but would you mind not posting blasphemous edits like this in future? Thank you :)
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>you now remember they decided to kill off every known character besides pan in the goku jr movie

what the fuck were they thinking?
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>>285793042
GT is such a horrible piece of shit. I'm glad it was completely memoryholed in the recent event.
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One of you fucking TIOS just made me get up and WORK on his shitbox Toyota like some sort of low class trash.
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>>285793048
Eat shit you pathetic godfag.
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>>285793048
Shut your smarmy mouth, you utter megafaggot
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>>285793048
DB has always been packed with meaningful metaphors and allegories. Cry about it.
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>>285793070
Mechanic is a cool job, do you enjoy it?
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>>285793100
Lol, Uncle Ted would be a small fry in the DB world, although I think he would get along with kid Goku.
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>>285793100
>>285793072
>>285793071
Effortlessly baited
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>>285793048
>glorifying graven images
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>>285793042
Toei tried to make fun of my hero with this gay shit.
Im glad Giga Turd is dead and buried forever.
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>>285793049
They weren't. Every single decision made in GT shows that the people directly involved in the creative process have absolutely no fucking idea what the majority of the fanbase likes about the series.
>kid Goku and a focus on him and a couple literal who characters rather than the established cast
>gag ADOBENCHA nonsense that doesn't have any of the cohesiveness the OG series had, and the cast is too dull to make up for that
>making the newest Super Saiyan form some retarded clown paint color palette instead of sticking with gold, especially after teasing with Golden Oozaru (Super did this too and everyone fucking hated it, so they learned nothing)
>killing off Piccolo for no reason
>bringing back 17 just to torture and kill him again
>muh evil edgy dark energy that gathers in the DBs despite this never having been hinted at before by literally anyone, including the fucking creators of the DBs
>killing off Goku at the end
>focusing on Pan and yet another mini Goku clone for the shitty special
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I'm so glad Super is the recognized spiritual sequel to Z, rather than that horrible piece of shit, known as GT, which goes against the wishes and intentions of the original author.
Super is a respectful continuation of the beloved franchise, unlike GT, which was just a cash-grab.
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>>285793151
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>>285793151
>calling us BVLLS
What did anon mean by that?
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>>285792465
I wish the bangs were canon.
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>>285793214
In the end, the sword gets stuck in you.
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>>285793171
> ADOBENCHA
That’ll be Uub’s new catchphrase
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GT is but a ghost of what the franchise was before that. A ghost moaning impotently in a void, forever blocked off from anything meaningful.
Meanwhile, Super is thriving, its fans rejoicing openly, their voices heard by all.
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>>285793242
I love how this changes his entire energy kek, he’s a sadboy now.
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Grand CHAD had a legendary and iconic ending that was the completion of the franchise and everything it was building towards and is still loved to this day, without needing further content.

Meanwhile SHITper continues to destroy the reputation of the franchise with its endless need to continue the story with terrible stories filled with awful villains, forgettable new characters and unoriginal new forms.

I’m glad I will always be a Grand CHAD and not a SHITperfag.
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>>285793287
>the best part of GT was when it ended
Kekytruthy!
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>>285793121
It’s cool. Kind of miss when I first started out and it was mostly easy shit like replacing starters and brake pads now they expect me to get old beaters up and running that their owner treat like shit.
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Beerus.
Golden Freezer.
Hit.
Zamasu.

Jiren.
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>>285793287
>GT was at its best when it ended
Yup!
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>>285793272
Yup yup, GODper literally made Toei kneel so it could save them from their daipa fuck up, which was a Grand Turd trace with flopped kid Goku and all included.
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>>285793301
its funny because its unironically true. if toyo ever decides to trace GT's ending for super it will be completely replaced
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>>285793299
He looks great but now I see why they didn’t ever do this as he looks even more identical to goku
>>285793302
Well they trust you alot at least if they give you those jobs.
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>>285793301
>>285793343
I accept your concessions.
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This retarded tribal "GT vs Super" thing is for faggots. They are both shit and non-canon and the series ended in 1995.
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>>285793378
>seething
>>285793394
>headcanon
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I will die peacefully in my sleep having never seen “dragon ball GT”.
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>>285793378
>no argument
KEK, you're the one that said GT was at its best when it stopped airing, faggot retard.
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Baby.
Super #17.
Omega Shenron.
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>>285793461
>BSO
It means Bilateral Salpingo-Oophorectomy
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Beerus
Cheelais green pussy
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>>285793494
Snow
Lava
(We listing two things that never come into contact?)
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>>285793042
They really have to compensate hard for how shit the flop they shill is.
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>>285793515
Possible cryptid sightings
High quality cameras
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>>285793520
I miss that weird noise that they’d make when powering down can’t describe it
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>>285793520
What a terrible piece of shit! Kek. Why did they make GT so horrible? It almost seems intentional.
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>>285793562
They were saving the budget for the moro arc
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>>285793538
/dbs/ posters
A successful relationship
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>>285793580
Big franchises
Managing to not fuck themselves up despite the easiness of it
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>>285793611
To be honest that’s good for me, I like the comfort of knowing that I story I like is really over, all the characters are happy, good guys won, the end. If it takes a flop to make that happen these days, so be it.
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IM SUCH A HAPPY KEK
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>>285787939
Cause Bulma is pure sex.
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>>285793752
Good choice of bulma, the hair suits her.
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>>285793752
Tube tops are sexy.
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>>285793777
And her short hair style.
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>>285791346
I dont know how it is in the manga but in the movie they make it clear that Gohan has been doing a little training, just nothing serious.
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Come to Bulma.
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FUARK
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Ayo check out Broly’s new form
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Legendary heroes.
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>>285793795
>>285793922
Bulma lookin like a treat.
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>>285793939
>Kakarot, why does this piece of clothing for wiping the sweat and blood of my face that I asked you to lend me smells kinda funny?
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>>285794007
And so hot.
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Bejita would use Dior sauvage and Goku strike me as a Versace Eros flame yup yup that’s how my heroes smell.
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>>285786484
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>>285794143
>implying they would even think about that in the first place and not let their natural musk flow
Fake fan
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>>285794213
My heroes don’t fucking STINK like you pajeet
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>>285794231
>training constantly
>not caring that much about superfluous stuff
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No way goku uses perfume kek, and at best vegeta uses something bulma got him for christmas only when she reminds him to use it
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>>285794268
No no no they use those two brands exclusively
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>>285791987
It made a lot more sense to keep the linework simple and bulgy. And keep the detailed art for the pages for that really mattered.
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>>285794067
Time to eat.
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>>285794294
And bulma is wearing coco mademoiselle while chichi copes with some cheap shit from the pharmacy
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>>285794421
That was found is the back of the shelves that nobody ever touches
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>>285794458
She probably gets a spray on, let’s be real. Videl definitely does although at least with her it’s a choice…
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>>285793993
I actually really like how this looks despite the strange inclusion of adolf
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Do you think Lego Pan would inherit the block from her father?
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ICONIC HEROES
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Remember that time Tien punched a hole through Mr. Popo's chest and everyone laughed?
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>>285794908
Kek, what’s happening in there I can’t see
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>>285793365
>GODro will look as good as top
Holy fuark I cannot wait!
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>>285795043
I feel like getting that life size cutout of him was probably harder than putting the outfit together
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>>285795254
I think Lego Pan is too weak to lift a block. But it makes sense, since her GT counterpart jobbed to a soda can.
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>>285795327
Wrong
She didn't
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>>285795327
Never heard of her
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>>285795388
I'm certain she did. We'll just have to agree to disagree.
If only it were Goten fighting that soda can, instead, since he would've handled it much better.
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>>285795453
Goten loses to Pan.
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>>285795453
True. I heard Goten is way stronger than pan, and far more popular and beloved also?
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>>285795495
All wrong.
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>>285795488
If he's heavily suppressed in his base form, sure, but that goes for anyone, really. Mind you, characters regularly suppress themselves to power levels so low, they are practically undetectable.
>>285795495
Yes, true on all fronts. Goten is quite the cool character, and very strong, too. He even became a Super Saiyan as a child.
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>>285795471
She looks amazing, I don’t know why a lot of black women don’t like their kinky hair it looks good.
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>>285795327
Lloyd solos
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>>285795543
Wrong.
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>>285795577
I disagree.
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>>285795543
Wow! Did pan ever become a super saiyan?
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>>285795612
Pan is constantly Ultimate level.
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>>285795612
Nope. Not once. Not even in Heroes! I think she's just far too weak to do so.
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>>285795636
Oh dear. That sounds like a very weak character! No wonder this “block” easily defeated her. I’m so happy we have attractive, strong and cool characters like Goten to look at in here instead.
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>>285795680
Absolutely. I'm sure Goten doesn't even concern himself with blocks, since he's far above Lego-tier.
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>Legos
Are you children?
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>>285795636
>>285795680
>>285795706
Stop.
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>>285795721
Pan is, which is why she plays with them, albeit while struggling to do so, since she can't lift the blocks.
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>>285795730
Or what?
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Studs
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Remember that time Trunks lifted a bunch of concrete blocks in the shitshow known as GT? Pan could never do that.
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I HATE moeshit.
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This is too heavy for me..
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>>285795855
SHITen (who is weaker than Pan)...
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>>285795855
Pan...
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>>285795721
Cope
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>>285795881
Jiren tanks stepping on lego in the dark effortlessly
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>>285795942
Jiren is strong.
Goten is not.
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>>285795965
Goten is hot
Jiren is not
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>>285795802
What a nice boy, letting her win like that.
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>>285795802
Kek
Pan humiliated that faggot in front of his faggot boyfriend.
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>fujosexual trunksten fantasies
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>>285795995
Who are the hot male dragon ball characters? How would we rank their hot levels?
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>>285795730
Why? You gonna cry to Toei?
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>>285796134
With a scouter, obviously
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>>285796250
NECK AND SHOULDER ACHE TITANS…
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People keep pointing out that whole "Saiyans age up really quickly at 15" plot point and it makes sense until you realize that Mai also randomly stayed short until she was in her late teens. Is she a saiyan too?
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>>285787031
>Bejita is the dominant one in that fusion
I know it's true, but how? Goku was stronger. Goku wanted to do the fusion and Vegeta didn't.
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>>285796399
It's just a cope excuse they made up in Super to explain Goten and Trunks designs.
It doesn't make sense for Gohan and others.
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>>285796399
Maybe. We should ask Toriyama-sensei.
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>>285796536
On it
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>>285795471
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>>285795802
>Goten won his match against Buu
Yup, YUP!
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>>285796572
>R...
>A...
>U...
>G...
>H...
>S...
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>>285790298
LOL
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>>285796536
>>285796572
>Can you guys fuck off already?
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Yup YUP
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krillin's daughter also showed no signs of aging until goten and trunks did
it's almost like they just made that shit up to cover an obvious inconsistency
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>>285796665
Funny!!
>>285796832
Kek
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wow she must be a saiyan too
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>>285796846
HOLY SHIT JIREN IS DEAD!
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>>285796864
More like they were just too lazy to redesign the characters.
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>>285796864
Maybe another thing they'll fix in the Super remake.
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>>285796998
18 needs to grow her hair back out.
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>>285788197
Black and red combo looks a million times cooler than full red
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>>285796864
She inherited 18's nanomachines
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How long do we figure the Moro arc is going to be?
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>>285797251
A billyon years.
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>>285794007
>implying Bejita wants Bulma
He's built for small giselle cock
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>>285789272
>agrees to date him as many times as he wants.
>Dragon Ball Super crushes it's most controversial romance
Are normies retarded?
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Sh-shut up. Everyone just happens to have different unrelated coincidental reasons to turn into teenagers at the exact same time
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The only "good" young next generation MC is Terry McGinnis btw. Everyone else just doesn't compare.
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>>285790664
This is based.
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>>285795796
Our new MCs
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>>285790664
Why is Tenshinhan barefoot and wearing a diaper?
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>>285797593
Boruto > Gohan
Gohan is only liked for what he could have been, but if you look at his story as a whole he is poorly written
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Fellas (scholars) I lost my reaction image/gifs folder. It’s all gone. My favorite gif of super vegeta frowning then smirking. Gone. Feast gohan. Gone. All of those Keklins with his mouth edited while it hangs on the floor. My rennyist of Roos. Gone. A small pittance please I know these consecrated corridors to be sacred and filled with generous scholars.
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>>285796998
>wow she must be a saiyan too
Who’s the father?
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>>285798066
Gohan. Notice the Cleangod foreshadowing? It's subtle, but very telling once you spot it.
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>breaks bejita so hard he willingly lets a whoville looking bug wizard mindfuck him and give him a tramp stamp on his forehead
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>>285797822
Trvke
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>>285797147
Agreed. Her Karendroid look is bad, but it’s supposed to fit her later End of Z appearance.
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I think all 428 posts in this thread would be made worse if they were about Pan
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>>285796998
>child of cyborg that was built by studying saiyans
See?
>>285797593
If Terry is so successful then why is he so forgotten. No one ever remembers or cares about Terry until its time to bitch about something and they pull him out of the cuck closet to bring up nostalgia fueled comparisons
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Beerus’ rear end? My exclusive property.
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Does Marron have abilities? She seems like a normal girl but in one episode of GT she says she doesn't like to fly
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>>285797916
Blonde women are so beautiful.
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>>285798422
She's human so unlike the Saiyans she'd probably have to train to unlock her abilities
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Stoked
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>>285797593
Miles*
>>285798407
>Dragon ball out of thin air
When will you admit you lost to jujutsu kaisen, demon slayer, and boruto alrwsdy?
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>>285786671
Sadly it still has Daipa lurking in.
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>alrwsdy
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>saves dragon ball after the disaster that was dragon ball babies
What do we say?
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why does everyone in super look anorexic?
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>>285799111
That's how Toriyama liked to draw them later in his life
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>>285798234
Tardku lost thoughbeit.
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>>285798955
JJK and Demon Slayer films definitely made more in the box office than the Super films plus Daipa.
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Teenage/Adult Mai in Super really has absolutely nothing in common with her original character at all. At least the child form acted somewhat recognizable
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I am quiet fond of Piccolo. I think he is pret-tee cool. I think the way he notices stuff is especially alluring.
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>>285796846
Jiren tanked that btw.
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>>285799620
To be fair, she did live though an apocalypse. Twice. Future Trunks is very different from present Trunks too.
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>alrwsdy
>pret-tee
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>>285798422
She's the final android made by Gero and will soon start following his plan.
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>>285797651
why does his foot have testicles?
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The only Asuka that matters in these halls is the one from Yugioh.
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>>285799111
They're going based on Toriyama's designs, and he really fell off in the early 2000s and never recovered.
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>>285799739
True.
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>>285799691
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>>285798516
yup YUP
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>>285799620
I don't see a problem with Mai having a different characterization when she was in her early 20s in DB and is an old woman trapped in a teenagers body in Super. It makes sense that she wouldn't act the same way.
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>>285799721
I cannot unsee them now...
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Yes its to emphasize the pronunciation of last syllable in the word pretty. But I wouldn't expect a Shitrentard to understand the English language
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>>285799689
How do you explain teenage Mai in the Super Hero arc?
>>285799768
This is cope. She isn't even remotely the same character.
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>>285799787
Ne need to be rude to the Grayy Lmao.
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>>285790664
Just realized that this is sloppa when all he had to do was trace. The Tienfag was such a lazy hack
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>>285799791
I don't care about the SHITnga
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The trunks mai dynamic would be MORE interesting if she actually had her original DB personality. Super replaced her with a standard girlboss persona.
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>>285794930
the absolute strongest
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>>285799903
...and Gogeta.... and Hit...
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>>285799898
This, she's just so damn boring, both her future version and present day "teenage" Mai. I don't know why Toyo made her some emo chick, even in her prior DBS appearances she didn't behave like this.
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>>285799903
...losers.
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>>285799898
>>285799928
"I want the Chainsawman audience"
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>>285794930
>Kirby victims out of nowhere
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>>285799823
He always deserves bullying
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Jiren won the thread.
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>>285795324
Unless that girl is over 7 feet tall, I don't think the cutout is live sized
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....on opposite day
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>>285800054
Never seen Chainsaw man. I just don't understand the point of bringing a character into the story if you will change everything about them. Future Mai is just an OC wearing Mai's skin.
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DADgeta the well-meaning and toughtful
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I want to be a Namekian.
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n-nyooo...
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>>285800307
Mai was written so long ago, they either forgot what her character is like or they assumed the average reader wouldn't remember so they could change her personality without people noticing.
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>>285800422
I would say DB Mai is one of the most imitated characters in all of anime right next to Goku and Vegeta and nobody notices
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>>285800158
...'s biggest loser award.
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>>285800489
>>285800489
>>285800489
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Guys I think Toyotaro, Yokotaro and Pikotaro are all the same person
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>>285800497
retard
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Wasn't the anime ahead of the manga? Wouldn't Toei be to blame for Mai's personality?
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>>285800555
Idk I’ve never read the manga or watched the anime. I’m here from TikTok
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>>285800555
Future Mai can be excused somewhat. Present Mai literally hasn't shown up since RoF prior to whatever Toyo did.
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>>285800659
We know, Gokubro.
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>>285800521
Don't use ableist slurs; I take personal offence to them.

(Gokubro btw)
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>>285800659
We know Jirenbro, its ok
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Can you guys post some cool pictures of Piccolo and Vegeta? They're my favorite characters thanks.
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>>285800915
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>>285800926
My king
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>>285800941
I remember some retard here asked some time ago:
>Uhm.... Why the fuck did Bejita's hair turn green????? Is he the legendary SS???
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>>285801073
Kek
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>>285800915
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>when Kakarot gives Bulma backshots
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>>285801195
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>>285801195
Holy FUARK
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>>285801245
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>>285801271
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>>285801307
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>>285786484
Powerlevels are stupid op, an so are you to even care about them
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>>285801387
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>>285801679
>>285801679
>>285801679
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>>285801686
As I said, retard.
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>>285800342
Did Bejita and Bulma have preggo s*x?
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>>285801989
>>285801989
>>285801989
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>>285798955
Nope, tardbro
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>>285799898
Shut up, burger

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