i AM tHe BONe oF mY SWORD...

Why is this anime so good

Gil humiliation soon...

Still the best Fate ED

https://youtu.be/12KOYTsvQg0?si=Bt3s40-ZaEuXE5cm

>>285786615
I agree.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HafFAW8F-NA

>>285786602
The king of jobbers

>>285786615
Hassan segment always fills me with indescribable feelings.

>>285786526
>deluded Herkeks think an Excalibur tier attack took 7 Lives when it's just an A+ Anti Unit NP that did
Pathetic.

>>285786731
>hasn't read the VN
kekaro

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Would he appears...?

>>285786789
Assuming Kadoc is 20 in 2016, he'd be 13 at the time Strange Fake takes place. Though "a Zemlupus magus" put Svin and Roland Berzinsky out on the ropes when they made a fuss, it probably wasn't Kadoc.

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>>285786781
>Caliburn used on Herakek stated weaker than Merodach
>Merodach stated weaker than Excalibur
>I-I-IT'S TOTALLY THE E-EXCALIBUR TIER ATTACK T-THAT KILLED HERK I S-SWEAR!
Herkek got killed by this.

Is Francesca the false grail vessel?
Is she going to perfect the ritual by experiencing it herself?
Is her immortality that good?

Rape all secondaries

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>>285786526
I am reading the Light Novel and I'm currently on Vol. 2, it's pretty good I like how there's more detail in it that the anime skipped over so far, adds to the overall enjoyment.
also I have realized that reading LNs feels way better for some reason, I used to be a big western books reader, then kinda stopped when I got into manga and haven't really touched a book sense, but picking this up I forgot just how more imaginative you get trying to picture it all.

has the anime deviated much from the story so far?

>>285787220
Not much.

>>285786590
>no Nasu.
>no single MC.
>Gilgamesh and Enkidu.
>best OP and ED out of any Fate in the existence of it's anime adaptations.
>America setting which makes it more interesting
>great art style
>great VA
the list goes on

>>285787352
>Gilgamesh and Enkidu
That's a negative

>>285787395
gachafag opinion disregarded

>>285787220
No it just rearranged or cut unimportant details and references for pacing and ease of enjoyment. For instance, we don't need to know who Van Fem is for us to like Jester

>>285787425
????? Wtf do you mean by that????

>>285787454
I am not sure but I'm sure someone can take it as an insult

>>285787453
>For instance, we don't need to know who Van Fem is for us to like Jester
Yeah but knowing about Van Fem beforehand will actually lead to an important moment for the story later.

Is Bazdilot doing the same thing to himself as what he did to Heracles?
Like,
>do not make excuses
>remember people
>accept human nature
It wouldn't turn someone into evil as much as being 'real'.

>>285787395
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>negative

>>285787528
Not really. We know Jester is a vampire, their power, and that they're bad. Later we'll learn he's actually an evil little girl. It's unnecessary to include all the lore about an obscure as fuck vampire only relevant in what? The shitty sequel to Case Files? Yeah no

>>285787174
>Is Francesca the false grail vessel?
No. You SAW the Einzbern homunculus already.
>Is she going to perfect the ritual by experiencing it herself?
Absolutely not, she already said she hates touching the mud, it grosses her out.

>>285787220
Not much deviation but a whole lot of shit skipped.

>>285787545
Bazdilot is a surprisingly human member of the cast who is just here doing a job for his boss (who's basically his dad). Then his boss dies, and he decides "I know it was one of you fuckers, so I'll just kill you all". Not much depth or complexity, straightforward and relatable.

>>285786526
>the little girl in the hospital summoned one of the Four Horseman of the Apocalypse
chainsawman reference

>>285787642
For the better btw. LN and VN readers are autistic faggots who go into tard rages over anything not being exactly 1:1 with the source material, even if it's really fucking stupid and badly paced. Niggers like this are the reason the seventh KnK film blows so hard

>>285786526
They would have been a couple, and their lineage would have been a version of Sparta, but better.

>>285787352
>>best OP and ED out of any Fate in the existence of it's anime adaptations.
lol

>>285787730
It's the opposite, actually

>>285787737
>For the better
Absolutely not. We lost so much of Tsubaki's character setting and Sigma lost a huge character point too. The stuff that's lost is actually pretty bad.

>>285787807
We have lost nothing. Tsubaki was never a character, just a trope of the "good girl with sad backstory". Sigma himself is not a character either, his development comes in later volumes

>>285787737
I saw animeonlies get confused by many things that were clearly explained in the ln but not in the anime, if an adaptation makes things that should be clear cryptic then the whole thing is just fanservice for ln readers and not a work able to stand on its own

>>285787686
TA did warn Faldeus, you act outside of what's necessary and it'll come back to bite you. If he had told TA to kill Bazdilot it probably would have been the correct choice, saved the world a lot of hassle, Heracles couldn't have prevented it either. Instead CIA got too greedy and tried using servants to solve problems outside of the grail war jurisdiction, having his servant take care of his personal grudges, which is a big moral boundary.

Police have managed to keep their hands clean throughout the war.

>>285787859
I’ve seen anime onlies be convinced Richard and s Arthur despite him clearly saying he isn’t, your comparison doesn’t work.
Most people who reacts to this haven’t seen a lot of Fate so they have no idea what they’re watching in general.
And they’re dumb

>>285787837
You're unbelievably dishonest.

>>285787785
so white horse summoned the girl, hmm.
this changes things

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>>285787774

You can deny it is the best Fate OP sung by a wolf and the best Fate ED sung by someone just starting high school.

>>285787352
Zero has Jets so it's instantly better than Slop Fake.

>>285788086
Wrong the best op is always BRAVE SHINE

This entire faggoty-ass franchise revolves around men being humiliated by women.

Richard is the strongest he can wield 2 Excaliburs

>>285788332
Actually, more often than not it's women being humiliated by men.

>>285788065
F/SF was written years before CSM is what I meant

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>>285788332
>

>>285788641
He needed a woman to do that else he’d get one-shot

>>285788686
They need each other, Medea alone can't do shit to Saber

>>285788602
naruhodo...

>>285787592
I don't mean knowing about who Van Fem is, but that Flat knows a vampire.

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I want to fuck an old man, /a/...

>>285788901
same, I want to make love to Da Vinci

>>285786895
Counterpoint
It'd be real funny if two of Waver's students got beaten up by a thirteen year old Kadoc

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>>285786526
Gilbros...

>>285788153
Melvin...

>>285788302
>Hehehe everything is going just as planned.
>Moshi moshi Sigma here. I wanted to tell you that my Servant is Lancer Charlie Chaplin.
>CHARLIE CHAPLIN AS A LANCER?! OH MY GOD!!! *Gets a heart attack*
What a fucking loser.

>>285788308
>BRAVE SHINE
KIMI TO gives it a run for its money

I want Jester to fuck my asshole

>>285789670
Nothing more terrifying than a literal comedian/clown

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>>285787592
>an obscure as fuck vampire only relevant in what? The shitty sequel to Case Files?
Van Fem showed up first in TsukiR. But you didn't know that.

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Late happy birthday Rin!

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>Cute and funny
>Wild and silly
>Larp on about doing some heinous, diabolical shit
>Actually do nothing
>Just show some harmless illusions
Why am I supposed to take this little cunnywilly seriously, again?
Just having a kino theme song isn't enough, you know.

I'm not ready for saturday and Sir Chadly's chad levels to reach unimagined heights.

>>285792150
You don't "take them seriously", Prelati is the trickster in this story, not the antagonist.

>>285789416
Jets would beat the shit out of anyone in this series. Yes even Ishtar. That nuke the government has ready to nuke Snowfield? Jets would have already KoO'd it and won the war long ago.

>>285792416
How do you punch Death

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I was thinking but on the Gram topic isn’t it possible that it gets A+ because Sigurd is punching it up instead of beaming with it? It’s still Anti-Fortress like Excalibur. And Sigurd has A++ NP rank like Artoria.
Felt more like it could be A++ rather than how it isn’t

>>285792497
very carefully

>>285791628
Where is this from? Who are those guys?

>>285792497
Nuke it with that nuclear bomb the glowies have ready for Snowfield. Jets has no time to be playing with that imaginary friend, everyone is getting burnt to crisp.

>>285792516
Gram is most likely in the same boat as Balmung. Both are A+ as their 'normal' rank when summoned in Servant form, but can scale up to EX if special conditions are met (that is what the + means, after all). Balmung went EX in Apocrypha when Sieg used a Command Spell to restore its original power from life.

>>285792516
>It’s still Anti-Fortress like Excalibur
Regular Gram (Giltard version) is just Anti Unit. It's this thing >>285786914 , just Arondight Overload. It doesn't have a beam. Siegfried should get props for turning such a shit NP (literal A Rank) into something so much stronger.

>>285792648
>Both are A+ as their 'normal' rank when summoned
Gram is A rank.

>>285792688
So is Arondight lmao

>>285792739
Saber's yeah. Berserker's is A++.

>>285792752
Just checked FGO again and, uh, no, it isn't lmfao

>>285786526
She would have given the sash, and would have met Theseus sometimes after if we follow some version of the myth.

>>285792764
Prove it.

>>285792586
It's from the Tsukihime Remake.
>Who are those guys?
The 27 Dead Apostle Ancestors. A league of the strongest vampires in the verse.

I hope /ourguy/ Faldeus makes it out alive

>>285791628
Is that ORT in the top left?

>>285792930
Who's "our" guy here?
Fucking subhuman killed at least one man. Mankillers will NEVER be allowed into our club unless the men they killed were misandrists.

>>285792516
Bolverkr Gram is not the same thing as Gram. Gram is Sigmund's sword, not Sigurd's.

>>285792941
No. It's probably Arach.

>>285792930
Is Faldeus the Kayneth/Shinji of strange fake?

>>285793099
He's a fellow patriot

>>285786526
I want to hug Archer-Heracles.

>>285792150
So who was the "Ruler" Prelati wanted to turn into "pig feed" in Whispers of the Dawn?
Is it that "Scarred Red" person?

>>285793695
JEANNE YOU FUCKING IMBECILE

>>285792752
>>285792809
Extella mats already let you down anon, it's time to let it go.

>>285793889
Anon, please be gentle with me. I'm a first time Fate watcher. This is my first Fate anime.

>>285793695
>be Prelati
>wanna summon Jeanne to bully and corrupt her
>such a fucked Grail War, a Ruler ends up being summoned
>only ruh-roh, the world decided to summon Ruler Galahad because too many rules were being broken
>goes on a bonking spree over the rule breakers
>everyone dies
>war over
This is what should happen to that smug hag.

>>285785381
>is there some autistic explanation to why the fake war doesn't have a saber or is it just because it's the special snowflake class reserved to the mc's servant
The explanation is that they deliberately left the Sabre spot empty, and Nature abhors a vacuum. It's like singing a song but refuse to sing the last word. The Layline basically got jump-started when some of the magic leaked into the missing Sabre-shaped hole and created a REAL Sabre servant.

And once Richard was called, that then pulled the Layline into finishing the summon itself by keep summoning the other servants afterwards.

The reason this was done at all was because Prelati was magically blocked from fully analysing the past grail wars by those in charge, so she only knew how to replicate it partially. If Richard was never summoned then they would have failed and there would be no grail.

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>>285793942
This is a VERY bad starting point. Strange Fake is comprised at least 70% of references to other Fate works. But fine, here, for you, the basics you should've already known:
Francois Prelati was an alchemist in the 1400s who was a good friend of Gilles de Rais, comrade in arms to Jeanne D'Arc, who, after going insane and delving into black magic after Jeanne's execution, hired Prelati to try and summon some demons and also commit a bunch of rape and murder.
Prelati knew Jeanne at least by that proxy. And Jeanne is exclusively a Ruler class Servant.

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>>285794061
Thanks for the rundown, anon!

>>285794041
>The explanation is that they deliberately left the Sabre spot empty
They literally couldn't manage it. If they could've they would've just had a normal war, man. Do the math.
They summoned six as a method to agitate the leylines which caused a flood of mana into the region. That's why it's a "fake war"; essentially, those 6 servants were summoned for no reason other than to make it so a real war can be executed afterwards. There is no grail intended for them. If the method failed and the agitated leylines could not support more servants, they would just go ahead with the six as a test run anyway.

>>285793942
I recommend watching at least Stay Night (the Deen show, the UBW show and the Heaven's Feel movies), Zero, Apocrypha and Lord El Melloi Case Files before going into this. It's for the better, trust me.

>>285794041
It's also because it's based on the 3rd Fuyuki HGW. Back then the Edelfelts still participated and they specialized in mirroring magic resulting in their two matriarchs summoning 2 Sabers. That's just an aspect of the ritual amerisharts could not replicate without an Edelfelt helping them.

Smegmaballz

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>>285792648
>Gram is most likely in the same boat as Balmung. Both are A+ as their 'normal' rank when summoned in Servant form, but can scale up to EX if special conditions are met
A possible theory since Sigurd mentions you need Odin's Blessings to wield it properly and he notes he is somewhat weaker than life in his interlude.
So it could be that there is something holding back the actual full release.

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>>285793942
Okay so Fate/Apocrypha establishes that if a grail war either gets halted or risks the destruction of the world, the grail has a failsafe (which fails most of the time) to summon a Ruler-type servant, specifically since the system is based in a holy grail, it has to be a Saint at it. Not ruler as in king, but as the servant of the rules, a judge or referee, with 2 CS for each participant and other boons like True Name Revelation and servant detection. In Apocrypha, Jeanne is the chosen Ruler of the Great Holy Grail War.
In Strange Fake their grail is so utterly shitty its very existence is a huge risk to the planet. But it's so utterly shitty that this failsafe is bugged and even if a Ruler summon is triggered it would take way too long for that.
Prelati wants to screw Jeanne over because Gilles did everything for Jeanne D'Arc. He fought for justice under her banner, and turned to saint out of murderous rage for her being burned at the stake. But again, Strange Fake's grail isn't summoning a Ruler any soon.

>>285792941
ORT really isn't a DAA in any traditional sense
If its awake the world is over
Arc can't stop it, the other DAA can't stop it, it isn't part of the club. The only reason they listed it as a DAA is because it ate the previous #5 DAA in seconds when he got too close. Anything it touches becomes another world through terraforming.

>>285794180
This anime is too kino with its animation, soundtrack, sound design, character design and direction.
I don't know if I'll be able to sit through the other Fate series after watching the highest bitrate torrents of this series every week on my 49-inch 4K TV in a dark room and then discussing it with anons.

>>285794511
What's a saint? What does "be a Saint at it" mean?
I like that Prelati is a confirmed faggot.

>>285787352
The focus isn't on some annoying faggot like Apoc's constantly was

>>285794802
It probably Analyzed/Decoded/Disabled the fifth Idea Blood so while it might not "be" an Ancestor technically it serves the role of it, just like it did to the Tree of Emptiness in LB7.

>>285786526
are there any other stories of this "genre" where one author takes better advantage of a another author's setting and makes a better story with unique twists on it?
guess you could call it official fanfic or something idk

>>285795075
Side stories aren't fanfic, fanfic is when its non canon. As long as its official its canon.
Lotta big series out there will always have spin offs by other writers.

>>285795162
>spin off
yea that's the term I was looking for but couldn't think of
thanks, anon

Has any Prototype reference make it to FSF?

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>>285794861
Exactly what it implies. It has to be a Saint, someone identified as such by the church. You need some modicum of impartiality to be a Ruler, but the Holy Grail will specifically select a Ruler that is a Saint to be its overseer among other restrictions like lacking a wish from the grail itself.
Saint Martha also has Ruler qualifications, while Sherlock Holmes and James Moriarty also do, but since they aren't Saints they wouldn't get to be HGW referees.

>>285793895
Lancelot isn't in Extella buddy.

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damn who's this cutie?
please don't tell me it's just a random throwaway design for watcher

>>285793942
Anon this is the Fate with the most callbacks not just to other Fate, but to the entirety of the Nasuverse. 90% of stuff is going to fly over your head.

>>285794861
Holy grail is a Christian artifact
Holy grail war was always a Christian ritual of sorts, even if the grail is fake
It needs a neutral arbiter to rule over the war, someone uncorruptable and unbiased, it also must be someone without earthly desire
Therefore it selects from saints, Christian saints

Amakusa doesn't qualify as a ruler but the Einzeberns cheated him into that class in Apocrypha by cheating. He was never a canonized saint, and he realizes in the end he's just a 3rd rate caster.

>>285795400
The official japanese subs basically confirmed, it's Amelia Earhart She and the other shadows are going to keep showing up, but they're essentially bit parts.

>>285795236
A woman named Ayaka Sajyou summoned a blonde saber who used to be an English King, it's basically as good as it gets

>>285795537
Bro, everyone in this story is a bit part because the narrative shifts back and forth constantly.

>>285795294
What did she meant by this?

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>>285795406
Furthermore the reason Rulers get 2 CS specific for each servant is exactly because the system foresees a possible scenario of a rogue Ruler. So if someone cheats like the Einzberns did, the Ruler takes a side, or the Ruler gets mindbroken brainwashed, he won't be curbstomping everything with all those CS. 2 per participant is something like a judge bonus but also a limit.

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>>285795236
Ayaka Sajou (true). Manaka is also mentioned by her.

>>285795600
Its because in the original draft of Apocrypha Ruler was meant to be the final boss, and she would use her command seals to order your servant to kill itself, and you would have to use your command seals to negate Rulers seals, which is why she has two, because masters have three, so the master will always have one more.

>The original concept for Fate/Apocrypha was not a light novel, but a planned MMORPG (often referred to as a canceled Fate online game project) envisioned by Kinoko Nasu and designed by Takashi Takeuchi.
>In this original MMO concept, the story revolved around a repeating Great Holy Grail War where players would battle in cyclical fights.
>Original Concept & Ruler's Role
>The Concept: The game was designed to feature two teams (Red and Black) fighting for the Holy Grail in a massive, repeating war.
>Ruler (Jeanne d'Arc) as Final Boss: Ruler was designed to be the central, recurring aspect of this, acting as a counterforce intended to protect the framework of the Holy Grail War itself. In the, original,,, now-scrapped, concept, she was planned to be the final boss for the game's launch state.
>Memory Retention: Unlike other Servants who were reset, Ruler was designed to retain the memories of each repeating "game".
>Ultimate Goal: Rather than just helping one master win, her role was to ensure a "complete story" for the war, concluding with her activating a special,, ultimate Noble Phantasm, according to early,,, notes on the project.

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>>285795774
>>Ruler (Jeanne d'Arc) as Final Boss: Ruler was designed to be the central, recurring aspect of this, acting as a counterforce intended to protect the framework of the Holy Grail War itself. In the, original,,, now-scrapped, concept, she was planned to be the final boss for the game's launch state.
Wait a moment that sounds familiar

>>285795774
Final battle is you trying to destroy the grail while Jeanne tries to protect it by the way.

>Truth of Fate/Apocrypha
>Nasu: To summarise, there is a conspiracy in the finale of the story that intends to use the Holy Grail War framework for evil. As the Counter Force, the Servant Joan of Arc wishes to safeguard the framework of the Holy Grail War. Other Servants wish to protect their respective Master, but Joan wishes to protect the Holy Grail War. Although the development of the story may change depending on the Servant’s relationship with the Master, ultimately the story concludes with Joan activating her ultimate Noble Phantasm which she stubbornly withheld. The goal here is to create a world with a complete story, despite being an online game.

Why is it called "fate" and not "the holy grail wars"

>>285796153
>Why is it called Zelda instead of green elf man?
Maybe because it sounds better

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>>285770791
I feel that David is often underestimated. Even though he is a younger version of himself, he still has strong abilities.
>Hamesh Avanim (C-*)
Is a very deceptive NP with the ability to strike a vital point on an enemy, causing their equipment to become David's property or unusable for the original user. Let's remember that David was originally designed for Apocrypha as Achilles' main enemy (but Chiron was given this role instead). I guess this NP was intended for that duel.
>Sacrifice: Flames Upon the Altar (A) Phantasmal incense burners would materialize around each enemy presence, before they would burn the incense inside them, causing violet fumes to envelop the targets. Immediately, thunderclouds and mist gather overhead, giving somebody the impression of Mount Sinai, and hellfire is sent down from Heaven, thoroughly incinerating those who oppose the Will of God without even leaving a single drop of blood behind. The flames as a whole take on the form of an altar.
>The Ark of the Covenant (EX) A wooden box that stored the lithographs left behind by Moses. The Magical Energy of those who touched it will be stolen without exception, no ifs, ands, or buts, leading them to their extinguishment.
This NP instantly extinguishes all of Heracles' lives, and according to the description of the material, it seems that no defense can stand against it.

>>285796191
No he's underestimated because the writers clearly didn't care about him and barely know about him, since his entire role is just to be a jewish stereotype instead of actually being who he was in his legend. There's a certain facet of servants where you can tell the writer just didn't care, like Blackbeard. They could have made any character the generic otaku character and it would have been the same probably. Very little of David tends to feel like David.

>>285796153
Since God exist, I think the final 'FINAL' thing will be fighting against FATE (God's Plan).
Especially if Nasu is still going on with Divinity=Alien.

Fuck Rin

Nor should anyone be deceived by Caesar’s glory, hearing him celebrated with the highest praise by the ancient writers, because those who praise him are seduced by his good fortune and terrified by the duration of the empire which was ruled under his name and did not permit writers to speak freely about him. But anyone who wishes to know what writers, when free, would say about him should see what they say about Catiline. Caesar is all the more detestable, just like the man who is to be blamed more for committing an evil deed than for wishing to do so. Also, let the reader see how they celebrate Brutus with so much praise, to the extent that, unable to blame Caesar because of his power, they celebrate his enemy.

I hate how this anime has so many blank slate characters with no memory/personality
>Fake Berserker
>Fake Rider
>Sigma
>Ayaka
>The Dog
>Both Assassins
>Faldeus to some degree
>All the Calatin goons

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>>285796191
The manga did a good job portraying his abilities if anything. The main problems are more that he isn't used much in the game proper.

>The Magical Energy of those who touched it will be stolen without exception, no ifs, ands, or buts, leading them to their extinguishment
It sounds strong.
Lord Camelotsisters, sounds very powerful...

>“How old is Sigma?” was a question I’ve always wondered since the text said Sigma is actually older than he looks since since his appearance stopped aging due to the experiments done to him as a child. So some time ago I did some research, and here are the calculations below:
>First, Fate/strange fake takes place around 2008/2009.
>Next, we know Fate/Zero takes place in 1994.
>Maiya met Kiritsugu 11 years before F/Z, so Sigma must have been born at the latest by 1983. (Interestingly, since Kiritsugu was 29 during F/Z, Kiritsugu was just 18 years old when he rescued Maiya.)
>Subtracting the years, Sigma is at least 25/26 by the events of F/SF (unless there were some shenanigans like Reines in Apocrypha…)
>A bit unrelated, but since Maiya was already dead when Francesca/Francois picked up Sigma following his government’s collapse, Sigma was at least 11 years old at the time. And he has been working as a mercenary ever since…
>TLDR - Sigma should be 25/26+ years old in FSF

>>285796285
God was never evil in Fate
He helps you using Solomon
If anything represents Fate its Akasha the root

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>>285796625
NTA but that doesn't stop God from:
>letting something happen knowing you can overcome it
>putting some sort of trial you need to overcome
We are repeatedly shown that God foresaw and took small actions against the antagonists, with saint servants confirming he is on your side too. But it isn't like he just smited the problems straight away.
Some people theorize Ordeal Call IV with Metatron's kangaroo court was actually something factored into his plans even if Metatron herself was acting independently for most of the chapter.
Not like we know if there is some greater reason for that or if he is just helping humanity.

>>285794511
Prelati should be happy that SF grail didn't summon angel Jeanne.

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>>285793942
consult the chart

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>>285796457
>>Fake Berserker
Is a solid character with a purpose and personality.
>>Sigma
Developing his purpose is foundational to his character, he is a blank slate who gets filled in.
>>Ayaka
A major character with her own personality already established, are you blind and retarded?
>>Both Assassins
Two sides of one coin, but you've barely even SEEN Spooky, how can you judge him so far? Zealot, meanwhile, again has a solid character whose personality is foundational to Sigma's own development.
>>Faldeus to some degree
Perhaps he's "blank slate", but Faldeus for the most part is just a guy who thinks he's in control. He is the "mastermind" who exists to be subverted and blown the fuck out left and right.
>>All the Calatin goons
The only one that matters is John. He gets his time in the spotlight later.

so the only ones you have right are
>>Fake Rider
>>The Dog
One of whom is meant to be a machine and its machine-like behavior is foundational to the plot, while the other is.. just a dog yeah. Wow. The show has a dog. So much of our time has been wasted on the dog, huh? Gotta whine about the dog.

>>285796805
>But it isn't like he just smited the problems straight away.
He can't. He doesn't have that kind of power. He hasn't since 0 AD.
Jesus was probably an experiment of wielding his power in the Age of Man. The results of that were complicated enough for him to not try a second time.
But even by the 1400s, Jeanne D'Arc could hear his voice and know he was powerless in this texture. God can't just smite things. YHWH is far, far, far from all powerful in Fate.

>>285797560
kek

>>285796805
>We are repeatedly shown that God foresaw and took small actions against the antagonists, with saint servants confirming he is on your side too. But it isn't like he just smited the problems straight away.
Read Fate Apocrypha
Jeanne's conversation with vlad that was cut from the anime

>>285797810
... he smited people in Jeanne's time?

>Fate Extra remake is being developed in house by type moon
What the hell. How does their internal structure even work? It feels like the people who make the VN remakes/remasters, these guys and the FGO team are separate

>>285798036
Nasus running on vibes man

>>285798036
Nasu runs on vibes while Takeuchi handles everything for real

>>285798036
They made enough F/GO money that they decided "hey, we can just make our own video game studio" and then they learned that starting a video game studio typically requires experts before delving into an A grade project like a full length 3D RPG. Then they were like "oh" and started assembling Studio BB and Fate/Extra Record brick by fucking brick and it's taken an age and a half.

>>285798207
I wonder if they are going to use studio BB fora gacha game next. It only makes sense given the circunstances.
>>285798101
>>285798082
There's no way its that bad.

>>285794802
If ORT wasn't a DAA it wouldn't be considered among the DAA.
>If its awake the world is over
Uh, no. ORT explicitly needs a directive to allow it to destroy the world. That was the entire point of Daybit and Tezca's goal in LB7.
>Arc can't stop it
She probably can. Especially with the exposition given in Remake that small and heavy entities are superior to large and heavy ones with Arcueid's Principle being that very concept taken to the logical extreme, since it allows her to compress energy on a planck scale. She has the single greatest ability to manipulate energy in the entire TM world.

>>285798289
>There's no way its that bad.
Takeuchi has been tard-wrangling Nasu for over 20 years now.

>>285797560
I've lost gallons to PakopaCause 2.9.

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Somebody put Ayaka in Artoria cosplay quick!

I thought the deal with DAA was that they arent necessarily DA themselves but somehow tied to them through a way or another. Brunestud of the Crimson Moon isnt a vampire either.

>>285791628
And did what exactly? Oh yeah that's right, fucking nothing

>>285798329
>Uh, no. ORT explicitly needs a directive to allow it to destroy the world. That was the entire point of Daybit and Tezca's goal in LB7.
In LB7 ORT is a subspecies of ORT, not true ORT. They said it might take a few bites of the planet and wander away, which is why they needed to give it a prime directive. It feeds on civilization and culture, so a blank earth isn't as appealing to it. Its a planet eater from the OORT cloud that crash landed ages ago to feed on the planet once it hits peak ripeness. In LB7 it was kinda done with this shit after dying twice which is why it tried to wander away, it liked eating interesting things, it said that DAA #5 had a good flavor to it. Bleached earth just didn't match its flavor anymore the same.

The planet has no power over ORT since its a planet eater, its something that regularly kills planets and TYPES, whatever you do to it, it'll just evolve a mechanism around whatever you did. Also gaia has no power over it due to its terraforming ability with crystal valley, whatever its standing on is no longer Gaia, Arc receives no power near ORT. We saw in LB7 ORT just killed dino Arcuied instantly. If Gaia had any power over that thing it would have been gone ages ago.

Church is the one that labels things DAA, they get things wrong occasionally. Its not like DAA have a legion of doom gathering where they address the newest DAA directives together, they aren't a real organization, its more a ranking created by the church. They called ORT a DAA after discovering it had functions similar to a vampire since it eats things and absorbs their power, but ultimately it isn't a vampire at all, its a space alien that just crash lands into planets and devours them after awhile. Its a giant spider that just feeds on its host.

>>285798329
>Uh, no. ORT explicitly needs a directive to allow it to destroy the world. That was the entire point of Daybit and Tezca's goal in LB7.
It may not destroy the Earth entire but if ORT activates the world of man is going to get eaten.
Angra Mainyu himself said the spider's a better killer of humanity than he is, if only for the sake of speed. And Brishisan said earth could lose its anthroposphere if ORT turned on.
The planet will be fine (if a little grungy with some crystals here and there once it's nibbled its fill), the prime species won't be.
>She probably can.
Only ORT can defeat ORT.

is the Church a group of mages that broke off from the overall mage group?

>>285798530
No, sacraments and holy items aren't magic, they rely on entirely different principles.

>>285798434
Essentially correct. Post-Remake it's whoever has the Idea Bloods. ORT has the fifth Idea Blood.. technically. It probably unraveled it and analyzed it and can replicate it freely, because that's what ORT does to stuff.

>>285798540
ah okay

Why does Alaya love brown people?

>>285798482
>They said it might take a few bites of the planet and wander away, which is why they needed to give it a prime directive
No, you misread what Tezca said. Take a look at the scene again. He said if Izcali's directive was half-assed due to wavering in his hatred towards PHH then ORT would interpret his directive in a half-assed fashion and only take a bite out of the planet as opposed to destroying CHALDEAS. It needs a clear directive to destroy the planet.
>It feeds on civilization and culture
This is headcanon.
>Its a planet eater from the OORT cloud
ORT doesn't regularly eat planets, because again, it needs a directive to accomplish that.
>The planet has no power over ORT since its a planet eater
Again, merely referring to ORT's scale. There are other planet eaters like Kiara, Cernunnos, etc.
>its something that regularly kills planets and TYPES
Headcanon again. It doesn't.
>Also gaia has no power over it due to its terraforming ability with crystal valley
>Arc receives no power near ORT
Arcueid explicitly employs the Inner Sea itself as her Reality Marble. So she can just counter ORT's Crystal Valley with that.
>dino Arcueid
Is not Arcueid. She has zero agency or combat power. Especially with Kukulcan and Malla taking most of her functions. The real Arcueid is explicitly in charge of the management of Earth.
>They called ORT a DAA after discovering it had functions
ORT is likely a legit DAA because Idea Blood itself ought to function as a directive. Basically ORT just like all Ultimate Ones is meant to take requests from planets. This is the entire reason the Alien God's heart (taken by Daybit) was needed to give it a directive, since the Alien God is a planet (albeit a hollow one). Likewise Idea Blood will function as a directive taken from the Moon.

>>285794802
Zelretch is listed as a DAA even though he never wanted to become a vampire, which is why I confidently state that even ORT would be annoyed if some Earthlings decided to list him as part of the DAA, but both Zelretch and ORT have no choice if somebody decides to call them a DAA

>>285798520
>Only ORT can defeat ORT
Camazotz already proves this wrong. And yes Nasu explicitly considers ORT as having being defeated by Camazotz.

>>285798540
The Church's rites actually are a magecraft system, although the Church doesn't like to admit it; they talk about "holy energy" instead of "magical energy" and so on. Ciel mentions it in nu-Tsukihime.

>daybit
Dont mention that name. It reminds me of how stupid FGO is.

>>285798750
You see he's called Daybit because he only remembers "A bit of each day", due to aliens stealing his brain

>>285795075
Narita is not a good writer. I would say he is even worse than Niso Isin because at least, Nisio Isin completes his works. Meanwhile, Baccano has been on hiatus since 2016

>>285798624
Most people are brown

>>285796992
>"To please old man" Toesaka
>Ishtar as a pseudo servant
Fit right in

>>285798792
In your family tree certainly.

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>>285798731
I mean, Nasu also considers Shirou to have defeated Gilgamesh.
But really you must recognize Camazotz didn't defeat ORT, Camazotz "and the Malla" defeated ORT. Without the Malla, it was a victory of minutes, hours, or perhaps a day at best. Camazotz didn't have any way to keep it from regenerating and starting the fight anew.

>>285798930
If Nasu said that, then sure, Shirou did defeat Gilgamesh.
>But really you must recognize Camazotz didn't defeat ORT
Yeah, but ORT can still be placed out of commission if it takes enough damage. That's why physical destruction is listed as the only way to defeat it. If it's destroyed and takes millions of years to recover, then that's a defeat by most accounts.

Can ORT handle high jump though?

>>285798881
Population numbers don't lie. I'm sorry white women gave up on you

>>285799024
It would have regenerated instantly if its heart wasn't removed, and even without a heart it can keep moving as long as something eventually falls into its chest. Once its reality marble was initiated in LB7 where it turned the entire LB into trees, nothing could kill it anymore, since the entire world became ORT. Even if its body completely stopped existing it could perfectly regenerate in seconds. It turns the world into its body, so that as long as part of it exists it can keep coming back. Which is why Kukulan burned away the world, even though it still should have been able to come back considering part of it was still alive (its heart).

>>285799024
If it's in its activated state it regenerates pretty quickly. In LB7 it completely regrew everything it had lost in a matter of moments once it acknowledged Chaldea as a threat. To the point that defeating it even with Excalibur was genuinely impossible until U-Olga used her Tachyon Jail to stop its healing, so we could blow off its armor one final time and hit it before it regenerated again.
It just has to realize it's even damaged, and that's where the Malla confounded it.

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>>285798289
>There's no way its that bad.

Most of the ORT wank is FGO-only stuff and should thus be discarded.

>>285798207
reminds me of granblue fantasy relink

>>285799189
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
How nu-Nasu treat Ultimate Types will impact the future of the franchise.
>it doesn't matter
Tsuki-R.

>>285799156
>It would have regenerated instantly if its heart wasn't removed
ORT's regeneration isn't instant which is precisely why ORT was stated to "be on the verge of collapse" after the Servants deal enough damage to it in LB7. With the Rayproof needed to finally take it out.
>and even without a heart it can keep moving as long as something eventually falls into its chest
Sure, though physical destruction fucks it up since that's listed as the single means to take it down. Same as the other Types.
>Once its reality marble was initiated in LB7 where it turned the entire LB into trees, nothing could kill it anymore, since the entire world became ORT
Purely headcanon. There is nothing at all suggesting this was the case. The only reason ORT couldn't be killed was because it's heart was still active somewhere else.
>Even if its body completely stopped existing it could perfectly regenerate in seconds
Bro, ORT wasn't regenerating from the damage it took by the Servants. Where is the idea of this instant-regeneration coming from?
>It turns the world into its body, so that as long as part of it exists it can keep coming back
It doesn't.
>Which is why Kukulan burned away the world
If Kukulcan had burned the world it would have killed the Deinos and every other life around. It was just a side-effect of ORT finally being destroyed.

>>285799167
>If it's in its activated state it regenerates pretty quickl
No it doesn't.
>In LB7 it completely regrew everything it had lost in a matter of moments
And it still didn't heal the damage the Servants inflicted on it. Which is explicitly pointed out by Sion.

>>285799238
>the future of the franchise
We will be lucky if we get 2 more "mainline" games before he dies from some bullshit.

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>>285799254
>And it still didn't heal the damage the Servants inflicted on it. Which is explicitly pointed out by Sion.
It regenerated all of that after parrying the first shot of Rayproof, that's why it had its spider shape back when Chaldea fought it within the Tachyon Jail. Kotomine said it outright, it was healing faster than they could hurt it.

Ultimate Ones aren't always guaranteed to be unstoppable even at full power. Crimson Moon got humiliated by Zelretch. Crimson Moon proves that not all Ultimate Ones are ORT-tier.

>>285799382
>against Magic
>something gained from touching Akashic Record

>>285798036
An excuse to make another SSR Nero

>>285799382
ORT was always meant to be the weirdo that's way too strong. The rest can be overcome by various means, though Zelretch's defeat of the Crimson Moon was only temporary until Arcueid was born. Arcueid is destined to usurp/stifle the Crimson Moon so that was the solution to his long term problems, which is why he showed up in the millennium castle to get a good look at her.

>>285799407
Feh. Type-Saturn got beaten by being bonked by a really, really big stick.

>>285799361
The battle against ORT lasted for most of a day with the main character taking 5 minute breaks every 30 minutes, and in that entire period of time ORT restored a single organ, used the resulting remnants to recreate the spider form, and was otherwise so damaged that its physical body was on the brink of collapse. It isn't an incredibly fast regenerator that doesn't accumulate damage.

The main reason they needed the superspeed and ability to one-shot it is because ORT was almost at its heart so they couldn't retreat anymore, and without U-Olga they couldn't fire the Rayproof in a way that bypassed the gravitional storm without waiting two minutes.

What does the story tell us about its state before the last engagement?
>(Those Who Rule The Planet)
>Sion
>Oh! Yes, that would work! Since ORT is on the verge of collapse, that would be enough to push it over the edge!

What does the gameplay integration show us of its state in the last engagement? See pic.
How strange, both appear to tell us that ORT is almost crippled from the accumulated damage.

>>285799423
Yes, a really, really big stick that consume planet to power itself.

>>285799423
And ORT died by crashlanding on Earth and couldn't reactivate for millions of years. With it's profile stating physical destruction is required to take it down.
So all Types get fucked by physical destruction. Only one that doesn't is Arc due to the Luminary.

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>>285799434

faldeus?
more like faildeus lmao

>>285798912
this but with landmine girls

>>285799446
What? Didn't it just come too early and decided to sleep until the time when the planet sent SOS?

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>>285799468

>>285799536
In LB7 it died upon crashlanding and had to go into hibernation to recover.

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>>285793942
oh cool, check out fate zero. you dont need a background for that. i say that since it was my first introduction to fate until i tried the fate VN and learned that the lack of the illya route is a crime against humanity.

>>285799189
ORT is indeed a gacha character now. So it's automatically shit just like the rest of gacha garbage.

I didn't really follow Fate, but now I kind of get why you guys hate FGO.

>>285799596
I dislike it only in the same way as I dislike any gacha game. Ovreall I don't care about the plot of FGO, I just want to see more heroes.

>>285799596
okay but they gave all these alts spawning art like the various artoria alters or alters in general

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>>285796259
>his entire role is just to be a jewish stereotype

They made Sheba a literal happy merchant too

I'm not a /his/ fag so I don't know who any of the servants besides Enkidu and Gilgamesh are supposed to be. Can I get a qrd?

>>285799434
That sure is a lot of words that doesn't address nor reconcile with Kotomine explicitly saying "ORT regenerates faster than you can destroy it".

Why is Gilgamesh less of a dick in this?

>>285799866
>meet his friend again
>his master respected him

>>285799715
ORT regens but still accumulates damage.

>>285795251
>>285795406
This "rule" has already been broken, probably more than once. Gil was the one summoned as the Ruler overseeing the Waxing Moon HGW, and that Grail also summoned Ruler Ibuki in that same war. Likewise Karl was the Ruler summoned in the Moon HGW, and although he is a Christian he is far from a Saint. And lastly Galahad is confirmed in FGO as the strongest judge of the Holy Grail Wars (i.e. the strongest Ruler summonable in a HGW), but despite his saintly qualities he is firmly NOT a canonized saint. This is one of those Nasu "rules" that doesn't work in practice.

>>285799866
>nobody mouthing off or acting like they're better than him
>not stuck with an evil priest monologing about inane bullshit for three years

>>285799704
False Archer- Gilgamesh
False Lancer- Enkidu
False Rider- Pale Horseman from the Four Horsemen in Revelations
False Assassin- A failed Hashashin Aspirant who only copied techniques and never made one up
False Caster- Alexandre Dumas, author of Count of Monte Cristo and Three Musketeers
False Berserker- Jack the Ripper
Saber- Richard the Lionheart
True Archer- Alcides (the Human aspect of Heracles who hates the Gods)
True Lancer- Sigma (the Master himself) but guided by Leviathan from the Bible
True Rider- Hippolyta, Queen of the Amazons
True Assassin- Hassan i Sabbah (there were twenty in Fate)
True Caster- Francois Prelati
True Berserker- Humbaba

>>285795806
>It took FGO 9 freaking years to get our first official demon-girl Servant (Lilith)

>>285800004
>He doesn't know about Kiara

>>285800003
i thought jack the ripper was a white haired loli wearing next to nothing

>>285800004
Nasu had to go full autism in order to explain how she isn't "Biblical Lilith" even though half her profile is clearly biblical lilith

Im surprised we haven't seen gilgamesh plunder a maidens virginity yet.

>>285800034
A human who becomes a Demonic Bodhisattva is different

>>285800035
That's what Jack the Ripper actually is. Berserker is more the legends and theories of what Jack could be. For instance, theories said he could be a police officer, so he appeared as one before Flat. The reason he's a watch is because there was a theory that cursed items drove people mad and made them commit the murders. You'll see more of this when his two Noble Phantasms are shown: Natural Born Killers and From Hell

>>285799913
Ashoka was also summoned as Ruler to oversee a HGW. Although he is pretty saintly too, but not a Christian one lol.

>>285800049
An odd point to try to press, considering Lilith wasn't even in the Bible; she's a Jewish folklore monster.

>>285799913
The "only Saints can be Rulers" clause is unique to the Einzbern Grail, same as the "only Hassans can be Assassins" issue, although that's more due to the grail's AI being stupid. The "only saints" clause exists because the purpose of Rulers in Holy Grail Wars is to serve as impartial judges, and one of the qualifications for the role is to have no interest in the Grail yourself. The easiest way to choose a Ruler in this scenario, therefore, is to limit to Saints who, on paper, should easily fit all the qualifications. The problem is that apparently apocryphal saints are also allowed, and Amakusa's yearning for the grail turned out to be a problem.

Originally, Chaldea's Servant system was modeled after the Einzbern system. This is why the saint clause for Rulers was mentioned. However, much like with Assassins, this clause was removed for the FATE system.

>>285800035
They tell you in Apocrypha that loli jack is not the real jack, she's something that "got sublimated into his legend by mistake", jeanne literally tells you this when she exorcises Jack. In Apoc novels and in FGO they explain how there is no real "jack", so any time you try to summon him you get a different "theory" that could have been him.

>>285800050
He is actually grooming Tine, though she's still too young for his tastes
>>285800070
Not to my penis

>Waver getting ptsd from seeing Gil again.
Hope something comes of this and it wasn't just a call back.

>>285800141
Something does happen, but it's not as cool as you think. Only boring Yumes and Fujos (Case Files readers) will like it

>>285800099
>Lilith's behavior around Mash reminded me of the snake tempting Eve.

>Nasu: I agree. However, the basis for our Lilith is not the snake from the Old Testament, it's the devil from older sources. Her status is closer to a parent figure to humanity, rather than an antagonist. I came up with the idea that she uses her feelings toward her inability to be human to justify her hatred of Mash. Weren't we talking a while ago about the touches made to make Lilith feel somehow still likable despite everything? I think it works because she's understandable. At the end of the story, it makes sense that a personality like her wouldn't find Mash acceptable.

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>>285800141
Yeah the thing that happens from it is Waver having a heart attack watching the war play out

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>>285800035
That's just a Jack candidate.

>>285800115
>The "only Saints can be Rulers" clause is unique to the Einzbern Grail
Is there some hard evidence of this? While this may be the case but it could just as easily be them ignoring a general rule like they do all the time.

>>285800164
I hope they show Cuckver's reaction to CHADcides utterly raping and low diffing Gilgajobber.

>>285800164
He should have just summoned Rider again and give him a second shot against Gil.

>>285799585
Why do anons keep simping for Ilya?
It doesn't look anywhere close to as hype as this series in terms of production values, music or fights.

>>285800216
>Ishtar-mommy, please save me.

>>285800197
It's stated in FGO, which itself is a reference to Fate/Apocrypha Material. The rule exists purely because it just makes choosing an impartial judge easier. A lot of the rules for the Einzbern grail exist purely to simplify the process and reduced errors. When the Einzberns modified the Grail to be able to allow them to summon a Ruler in order to cheat, it created a system error. This is why Amakusa, someone who shouldn't normally qualify for the role, was summoned. Rulers aren't supposed to want the Grail, but the Einzberns wanted a Ruler to serve as an active participant.

Most of the rules for the Fuyuki Ritual have proper reasons for existing. The entire reason things go so badly off the rails in most Holy Grail Wars is because these rules were violated. Nearly every problem in the Fourth, Fifth and Apocrypha rituals can be traced to the Einzberns breaking the rules in the Third War.

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>>285800240
Wrong on all fronts, stop judging books by covers.

>>285799585
>learned that the lack of the illya route is a crime against humanity.
That's not even the worst crime against humanity.
The worst crime against humanity is when you learn that Sakura route is originally the shortest route, and Nasu added a shit ton of elements from Illya route into Sakura.

>>285800240
let's just say they're on the list

>>285800240
they're talking about the VN's scrapped Ilya route, not prillya, which is only worth it for cunny

>>285800240
Because they're lolicons

>>285786642
Man, Ufotable is something else for how high quality their productions are. Few studios are willing to be this autistic over things, and they always make some great anime. I know the secret is Tax Evasion

>>285800115
>Amakusa's yearning for the grail turned out to be a problem.
He only had a desire for the grail after he was incarnated. Before that he was wishless.
He basically travelled the world and saw suffering and wanted to change it.

>>285800164
Fuck I love this guy

>>285800274
Fair enough if that's stated. I guess for once Nasu didn't arbitrarily break a rule with no explanation. Which is good.

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>>285800274
Einzberns wanted to fully cheat since they wanted a Ruler + Eastern Hero. The Fuyuki HGW doesn't allow Asian Heroes to be summoned after all.

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Haram

Never Ever Servants:
Muhammad
Jesus
Hitler

Funny how Amakusa isn't canonized as a Saint and yet the ToH disagrees.

>>285800381
There actually aren't that many arbitrary rule violations. The majority of rules are broken on purpose, and this usually ends up fucking things up. It's not like most rules just get broken out of nowhere. Someone WANTED to break them.

>>285800268
>KEKshtar saving her ex from certain death against Nine Lives
kek

>>285800477
I'm talking more about Nasu violating his own lore, like how quickly he stepped back on the "No Divine Spirits as Grands" rule. I'm glad to see this Ruler case, however, has a reasonable explanation.

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>>285800454
drifters did hitler and jesus. why not fate.

>>285800514
King Hassan is Azrael though?

I'd like to see Fate's take on Hell's Paradise. A HGW taking place in some unknown island that ends up having idk, TYPES or some shit related to Sefar.

That Heracles transformation was most edgy thing I've seen in anime this season.

>>285800577
I'm not sure I understand, aren't neither of those Divine Spirits? Mostly talking about Quirinus, Tezca, and Indra most of all walking all over that rule. At least he came up with bullshit justifications for Quirinus and Tezca, but with Indra they dropped all subtlety and just said fuck it, and didn't even bother with a half-assed excuse.

>Archer Herk was so slow he couldn't kill Bazdilot
Wtf bros?

>>285800514
Tezcatlipoca just broke the rules by creating a human vessel for himself. It's more or less the same thing as Quetzalcoatl. Both of them are gods, but they both used human vessels to communicate with humans back when they were "alive". This is the loophole that Quetzalcoatl abuses the fuck out of in order to be summoned as a Servant. In the case of Quetzalcoatl, she inhabits the bodies of priests/priestesses who served her in live. Tezcatlipoca, on the other hand, just creates human vessels from scratch.

Romulus, just abuses the demigod clause. Strictly speaking, he still shouldn't qualify as a Grand because Romulus Quirinus is the version of Romulus after he became a full god exercising his complete authority, but Romulus just wants so badly to be human the Throne just went "Alright, alright, you're human, fuck it." It's the same bullshit that Kintoki uses to justify being a "Man" Servant, even though by all accounts he should be Earth or Sky. His dad was a thunder god and his mom was a mountain hag, he's definitely not human at all.

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>>285800640
Azrael is a literal Angel, anon. Pretty sure he's higher up than Divine Spirits.
And Indra used the same excuse as Tezca.

>>285800652
make her convert to Christianity with my command spell.

>>285800650
All of the shit you mentioned are asspulls btw. Divine Spirits shouldn't be Grand no matter what, why the fuck isn't Jesus a Grand then? It's god on a human vessel as well.

A reminder that the day Takeuchi dies is the day this franchise is doomed for real
He’s the only glue holding those retarded writers together

>>285800681
Jesus is Saver (read: extra) class.

>>285800652
Wtf is her problem?

>>285800705
Nah, he ruined everything with his Saber fetish.
His artworks are all traced and lazy.

>>285800705
There is a special hell for Takeuchi.
He will be surrounded by Saberfaces, and the OG is forever from his reach.

>>285800681
Saviors get absolute veto rights.

>>285800731
He did everything
>being Nasu’s caretaker (literally told Nasu in Tsukihime days he would always take care of him so the mushroom should just write what he wanted)
>all business matter involving Type-Moon property
>the story direction of each and every spin-off
>what should be done to damage control bad writing decisions
All him

>>285800663
But Azrael has Man attribute, and he's a human/hominidae type, unlike Metatron and other angels we met. I don't think all angels in Nasu are divine spirits or even divine in nature.

>>285800652
This femcel keeps fucking pissing me off.
Why is she like this? Overcompensating for the stench of her loose pussy?
I hope she dies ASAP.

>>285800809
Take solace in the fact that she'll eventually get Jester'd.

>>285800803
He said he has 1 year before going back to Hell in the after story.

>>285800826
I don't know what that even means.

>>285800787
Nasu had to damage control Sakurai's writing. Since when does Takeuchi cover for Nasu's writing?

>>285800829
I don't think it's impossible for a human to become an angel in Nasu is what I mean. King Hassan definitely at least began as a human, and Azrael is Hassan lily.

>>285800909
Angels just kinda wear people
Angel fused with/wore king hassan

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>>285798036
>Fate Extra remake is being developed in house by type moon

that's incorrect: it's been develop by Studio BB, which is a sub section of TM but run by different people

>It feels like the people who make the VN remakes/remasters,
Remakes and remasters are done in-house by TM, and helped to be published by either Aniplex (Sony) or Kadokawa. Porting for Steam and Smartphone of FSN/FHA was done by Fuzz inc.

>>285798289
I doubt they can do that, since Aniplex probably has some rights related to the FGO IP. Also Lasagna has like 10X the amount of people Studio BB has, a studio that was unable to yet release the EXTRA remake on schedule. Running a live service game is probably something takeuchi and nasu don't want to touch directly: currently they only have to prepare events's plots, characters and Story: everything else is done by Lasagna

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Look, youtube and google have been shilling this anime really really hard the past couple of weeks, and while it did pique my interest, I dunno nothing really is making me want to watch this.

Until I heard that Tohsaka Rin is in it.
That's it. I am convinced. This is now part of my seasonal anime list. There is no contest, nor is there ANY kind of debate on the subject. Rin is the only reason why I will watch this anime.
There is a serious issue here though. Rin isn't a twintail anymore. This is egregious and needs to be rectified, pronto please.

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>>285801294
Rin is good in everything.

>>285801294
she's not actually in it

>>285801294
She'll be in season 2
Gomenasorry

Is there any force in this universe more powerful than a giant laser? Is there any problem that can't be solved just by applying brute force? Behold, the ultimate weapon of the planet: a sword that shoots a giant beam. Behold, the Ultimate One of the Moon! His supreme art? Dropping the moon on the planet. The King of Heroes Gilgamesh, who has an infinite number of Noble Phantasms in his treasury. His greatest treasure of all? A sword that shoots a beam. Arcueid, the White Princess of the True Ancestors, master of Marble Phantams which allows her to recreate any form of phenomenon. Her preferred method of dealing with problems? Punch it really hard.

Brute force is best. If you can't solve a problem with brute force, it just means you're not using enough of it.

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>>285801294
I want to rape Toesaka breast

>>285792648
>that is what the + means, after all
holy mother of all quaternaries

>>285801402
Wearing your watch like this is so incredibly douchey.

>>285800454
Add Genghis Khan to the list, who should have been Grand Rider since he created the largest empire on horseback in human history. However, real life Mongolians will protest if Genghis Khan is depicted in any negative way and Type Moon is likely afraid of Mongolian sumo wrestlers waiting to beat up their employees in the parking lot.

>>285799446
In Notes, Type Venus implies the destroyed Types will eventually respawn again, leaving Notes with a bittersweet ending.

>>285799382
Crimson Moon is only the ultimate one of a moon instead of being the ultimate one of a planet. Not only that but it was Zelretch who gets humiliated because he was forcibly turned into a vampire by Crimson Moon against his will and unlike Caubac Alcatraz who turned himself into a physical inorganic lock in order to escape the vampire urge to drink human blood, Zelretch likely has been forcing himself to kill and drink human blood in order to maintain his sanity over the centuries. That is Crimson Moon's revenge against Zelretch, who permanently became a monster instead of dying as a human.

>>285799423
Every character in Notes failed to achieve a permanent death against the Types. They only managed to stall the Types but at the cost of Earth's destruction and we have Type Venus implying the destroyed Types will eventually come back for Round 2.

>>285802822
Genghis Khan might not be okay, but they seem to have no problem with Kublai Khan.
Also strangely enough, the Chinks seem to have no problem with Guanyu despite him being worshiped in a lot of their pagodas.

>>285802936
Type Venus got slapped so hard, it turned into a waifu.

>>285802822
They could do Timur and write him as a combo of Richard and Zealot

>>285786590
>Because they are feminists! Gangsta image

>>285786526
Top tier anime sakuga this year and Aoty 2026

Is it intentionally on Nasu's that Gil never goes up against someone who is out of his league? I'm trying to think of a time where Gil fought someone who is explicitly stronger then he is like we are used to seeing in Fate but I can't think of one. The closest I can think of is in Babylonia against Tiamat but there he had a ton of help from others.

>>285803338
Nasu wrote CCC.

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>>285800787
What he doesn’t do
>tell artists the aspect ratio for artwork

>>285803338
>Is it intentionally on Nasu's that Gil never goes up against someone who is out of his league? I
During the planning stages of Fate/strange Fake, Kinoko Nasu told Ryohgo Narita that Gilgamesh's response to Huwawa suddenly appearing in front of him would be "like Vegeta facing Perfect Cell or transformed Frieza"; he would let out an angry yell and rapidly fire the Gate of Babylon.

>>285803325
Why is it so low quality?

>>285803359
Not only could this be fixed just by widening the fucking thing, even if it could be fixed that way liquify would fix it in like ten seconds. Honestly....