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>>34205691
Should I even? Just how did men's standards get so low?

>>34205691
These generals are dying because they’ve turned into 50% people whining about getting ghosted or dumped, 40% namefags and tripfags giving shitty advice, and 10% miscellaneous retards asking the same questions and theorizing but never actually talking to women because they’re scared.

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I don't date often, so I could use some perspective.

I went out for coffee with this girl yesterday. We chatted for 3 hours. It got awkward here and there, I would run out of things to say, etc. I assume that's normal? She showed me a lot of the cringy DMs she receives on a daily basis, which I wasn't sure how to interpret.

Anyway, we wound up closing the place down and getting scooted out with a few other customers. I didn't go in for a hug or anything. I just didn't get that vibe.

Now it's the following day and neither of us has hit up the other, and I'm wondering what to do? I'd love to see her again, but I'm also not sure if her silence is sending a message. I kinda feel like girls are usually the ones to drop hints if they're interested.

>>34206186
Is schooler still here?

>>34206186
>but never actually talking to women because they’re scared
Anon, just because we're interested in learning HOW to approach women doesn't mean WE want to do it in real life.

>>34206277
What if she's thinking you're the one that wasn't interested (since she didn't even get a hug for example)?
Just send something bro overthinking is killing your chances. If she's not interested after all at least you dont have to worry about it anymore.

>>34206186
Idk man I think people need a place to lick their wounds. A lot of us don't really have friends or people we can vent to. It's cathartic to just be able to say, "This happened and it sucked."

>>34206277

i am a girl so tell me to fuck off if needed as i see this board is "by men", but 3 hours is a good sign imo. usually if i find myself sick of a convo i'll find an excuse to go.

anyways, you should message her. i'm hoping you sent a message after hanging out saying something like "hey it was super fun seeing you, hope you get home safe!" but if you didn't you can say something like that again today.

its not a gendered thing to find it awkward to be the first one to text, i think everyone experiences it. my rec is to message 2-3 hours after seeing a person if they havent done so already. don't just rely on her to initiate.

in short, her silence isnt sending a message. text her! good luck lmao :)

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>last girl I was interested in turned out to be an anti-natalist who doesn't want children
Dodged a bullet there, huh?

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What does it mean when a girl says that you act like a kid sometimes, but smiles at you while saying it? She herself is my age, mid twenties.

>>34206848
idk maybe she finds you have youthful joy, or she sees you as childlike and is uninterested. any other info you can share?

>>34206841
>Dodged a bullet there, huh?
Not really. You were interested in her. She wasn't interested in you. Dodging a bullet implies that someone fired a bullet at you. Round is still in the chamber, fella.

>>34206852
Alright
>Work at factory
>Been there two years
>Not bad not great
>Job is menial but hours can be a bit shitty
>Pay is adequate
>This girl is hired some time ago
>Kinda grumpy type girl
>Ask her how her day went and she says it's been shit
>Gets pissy when I don't react negatively about anything
>Don't talk to her because I'm a mute sperger
>She gets signed to my line
>One day she decides to strike a conversation when one of her girl friends missed a day
>Sperg my way around our brief talk
>Fast forward a few weeks
>Slowly getting more loose around her
>Say whatever comes my mind
>Talk about books
>Films
>Suicide methods for some reason
>Went out for ice cream after work
>She says I eat it like a child
>Some time later at work
>While discussing something she tells me again that "I'm like a kid" while talking
>Again today when I was gathering my stuff she mumbles that I act like a kid
I don't know what I do that makes her say that, for me I act normal, or at least I try to keep myself contained. She used to nag at me to complain about something or about the job.
I don't even know if I like her or not, I've never been this outspoken to anyone like this before so I like talking to her.

>>34206746
>>34206321
Thanks, I was being too in my head about it. I just sent her a message thanking her for a good time, and a little conversational prompt about the weather. (Ordinarily lame, but we are in the middle of some impressive winter storming.)

Hopefully it's received well.

1: what kind of pictures are good on a dating profile. Is it too tryhard if I wear dress shirts and pants in the pictures.

2: when messaging a girl on dating apps when should you try and ask to go out. Is it better to ask right away or try and chat a bit.

3: i used to get called innocent looking by girls in middle school and high school. I look a bit different now but not too different. Is being innocent looking a good thing or a bad thing?

>>34206888
yeah she's prob not into you sorry

>>34207153
1. its not too hard. look happy and have a nice smile. appear in good clothes, dont look like a chav.

2. chat a bit, i'd think you just want sex if you wanna hang immediately

3. depends on the context, its prob fine

>>34206888
She sounds like kind of a bitch my dude

>>34206277
Idk the fact that you went 3 hours is normally a good sign. Also girls will expect you to take the initiative so of you want to see her again ask her if she wants to do it again sometime. At the very least you wouldnt be ghosting which is rude

>>34207153
Basically this >>34207166 but dont wait too long to ask her out, it should be within the the first 3 moves. Youre on a dating app and you both are attracted to eachother so dont beat around the bush

>>34206841
women always want children with the right guy. you just weren't him, sorry anon.

>>34206186
If you have to resort to approaching vvomen, it never began for you. It never has worked for men. If a vvoman has any interest, she will approach you. You're setting yourself up a lot of bad (harassment charges, getting a reputation, crushing your self esteem etc.) If no vvoman approaches you, it just means you're undesireable and you're not meant to date nor pass on your genes.

>>34206277
The silence is deafening. She's showing you dms to prove her worth(self righteous). You should of pushed for the kiss, but she's probably not worth anyway.
>>34206841
maybe. not all women need to want children
>>34206848
Good thing. Young at heart
>>34206888
Eh not good. You are immature
>>34208041
Too doomy. but what can I say I am lucky ig. Married 2 kids. Wife took me home. She tricked me. I thought I was walking her to her friends to stay the night. But her friend locked the door so we couldn't get in. So she had to come to my place. It was all staged.

>>34208129
You LARP here often, handsome?

>>34208185
infrequently
ill tell you this, you day dream less when you have something you've worked on and want to live for

>>34208243
That's why you're putzing around on 4chan, huh?

>>34208129
>You are immature
I don't know, one thing everyone says about me is that I'm serious if not a bit aloof.
>>34207159
Eh it's ok, I don't know if I like her either. I'm ambivalent about her. It's just her behaviour that confuses me a bit from time to time.

There is this new girl a year ago came into our department. We soon get along due to our shared interests, and we went on a date.

Well then, turns out she has a long-distance boyfriend. But anyway, being the retarded simp and cuck I was, I kept engaging with her, because she too was reciprocating. We went on dates, held hands, hugs, she even let me lifts her and stand and carry her around. She even fall asleep in my arms (but no sex), and let me give her hickeys on her neck. It was hot as fuck seeing her change her hairstyle temporarily to hide the marks.

Anyway she gets transferred to a different state, and she said to keep in touch and meet whenever we can. The first two months we're apart, we're as close as it gets, text-wise. But last month, she started to fizzle out on the respond, sometimes she ghosted me and giving the busy excuse. I called her out and apparently, she already deleted my contact and said I'm boring because I stop sharing stories and gossips about my workplace.

I know deep in my heart I should just let go of this woman, delete her contact and unfollow her socials. But goddamn it's hard because I thought we shared something special but I guess I'm just a footnote in her life. And I can't lie that I was hoping she broke up with her boyfriend so we could be together.

Somebody talk some sense in me.

>>34208789
She was cheating on her ldr with you and now you want to start an ldr because you think that was something special? What part of that is special? You really think she's not going to cheat on you??? Are you coping because you didn't fuck? You 100% could have btw.

>>34204591
I may have level 1 autism, but I don't really care. I apologizeed to her for kinda ignoring her after the fact and straight up asked for a second chance. Alcohol is an amazing thing indeed. She immediately said I was not stupid (like I said I was) but I'm still waiting her reply about meeting up again

In case anyone needs to hear it, long distance relationships do not exist. Recently cummed inside multiple times this girl that a minute before was saying good night to her long distance boyfriend and how much she loves him, he told me she will marry him and no one can know I'm fucking her. All women cheat, all the time, there is no exception.

You ask girl out
She rejects you
How do you act and respond?
> no problem I understand be safe
I just feel like turning around while smiling is too strange

>>34205691
Why are there so many of these threads? There may be 50 ways to leave your lover, but are there really 336 ways to find her?

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>>34205691
>how to get women

What's to get?
They are just as retarded as everybody else.
Potentially more.

Can I get a girlfriend if I'm unemotional and I'm a Christian who does not drink, smoke, or have sex before marriage

>>34209425
Remember to kiss her

>>34210293
Maybe but you'll be miserable. Also hopefully you have a likeable personality because you really undersold yourself here

>>34205691
For some reason, the quantity of misdirection and bad dating advice given to men has really been bothering me lately. >>34208041 Like this, for instance. If this was really how it worked, humanity would have gone extinct a long time ago.
It's a vibe seeing Manson and Glover are still THE reading materials after 10 years, because nothing sane has really come in and superseded it. It's all either "women are whores" or "just bee urself ;)" still.
I worry that the consensus will never heal and anyone who doesn't have a good role model IRL is just cooked. And so many people are fucking delusional.
Don't consider this whining, it's more just getting it off my chest.
>>34209970
I almost think "be safe" could be misinterpreted as being passive aggressive.
>I just feel like turning around while smiling is too strange
If you take no for an answer and exit stage left, there's really not much she can complain about unless it's the fact that you asked at all.

>>34206746
>i am a girl so tell me to fuck off if needed
Women giving their experience is valuable, the problem only comes when they try to define men or think they know men better than men do.

>>34210482
Conversely you have retards in these threads making bizzare generalizations about women so as long as you can recognize both cases you'll do finr

Yesterday the girl I love (we both work in the same company) asked me until how long my contract is.

I know it's over, more like it never began, but this it's the nail in the coffin right?

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What the fuck are you supposed to do when a hot female coworker who is in a relationship gets way too friendly with you? She is texting me every day and tells me literally everything about her life.
At first I thought she was into me especially since she told me she's not really happy with her current relationship but this has been going on for like 6 months now and nothing has changed or happened. At first I thought she was into me but now I'm pretty sure she's just using me to dump all her problems and get her kicks by low-key flirting when she's bored with her bf. I can't just cut her off because coworker I just want to get her out of my head.

>>34211522
Lol she wants you gone

>>34211617
uhhh get close to another hot female coworker?

>>34211623
She's literally the only hot chick at work (it's a small company)
I don't have any other options currently which is making it bad.

>>34211620
:(

Is it better to actively improve yourself and do what you find fulfilling or to change your life style and do things you dont like/arent you in order to meet more women? My current mindset is just waiting for the opportunity to present itself and seizing it, and id say I find a good opportunity to approach a woman im interesed in maybe every couple of months at least. Ive been feeling really fucking demoralized from dating apps, so I've been trying to not fixate on women and just prioritize getting better at guitar, weightlifting, reading, and wageslaving. Im pretty proud of myself today because I had a dream I was hugging my ex last night and I didnt wake up wanting to off myself out of longing for touch lmao.

Going to ask for the cute girl at the drive thru’s number. Have no idea what her name or age is. Or should I try to use an opener ? Usually she hands me my food and shuts the window.

>>34211712
I’ve been trying to do this anon but I just feel so worthless that I’ve never even held hands with anyone before. I used to be like “yeah it’ll happen some day don’t worry” but now I feel fucked. I don’t even care about sex I just want someone to love genuinely for once in my life. Seeing my friends get flirted with while I’m just a genetic fuck up has destroyed my confidence. I’ll never be able to love.

>>34211809
doesn't seem like she is into you. you do realize that people just wanna do their jobs without getting hit on?

>>34211887
So how am I supposed to get a cute teens number without looking like a predator?

Serious question, Is it a good idea to use a bit of ai in tinder photos? For example I can't smile for the camera for the life of me but ai gives me a nice subtle natural smile without changing anything else. I really don't care about ethics at this point I just want to maximize my chances.

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>>34211825
It may be a cope but instead of letting a lack of intimacy make you feel bad, channel those feelings into something. I use weights for my impotent anger at society and music for my feelings of loneliness. Also stop hating yourself over this crap, it is really hard to get over but even just barely tolerating yourself makes a world of difference. I used to always think to myself how I should die for being so pathetic but I brute forced my brain to stop that shit after doing it for years. Hell once you get good at feeling satisfied by being alone you start to feel bad for people incapable of being without a relationship lol.

I can literally only do well with girls who are well-read or who watch old movies because we've seen or read some of the same obscure things. In fact, it's an indicator that if we match one of these interests, we will probably have sex. This wasn't true for my first few relationships where the girl just threw herself at me, but when I'm out trying to mack, I only tend to really lean into the ones who are reading/carrying a book or showing that they enjoy pictures/drawing/movies.
There's a tip for you faggots

>>34211617
You're the backup, you're not getting anywhere until her bf falls through, at which point you "win" a disloyal gf who is probably already picking out another backup.
Unironically just find someone else, or friendzone her if it's really a problem.
>>34211712
I would say you have not only a right to self-improve, but a duty to. Leveling up won't get you a gf but you'll be more prepared if you meet one.
Joining stuff *just* to meet women is generally not a good idea unless it's explicitly social mingling events.
Also, there are introverted and extroverted ways to engage with every hobby, if you do things you're already doing but more socially, it helps you find like-minded women (except the gym, that's a cliche). Read Manson if you haven't already.
This is a more passive strategy, so while dating apps suck, you might want to keep that door open because they will suck a little less after self-improving.

>>34211952
It's essentially catfishing, you said not to moralfag but you could also get caught if you can't smile IRL.
I've found I only smile naturally if it's a friend taking the picture. You could try that.
Smiling in the picture isn't required for guys, btw.

>>34212221
Maybe changing the smile is too far but I could also use it to fix lighting for example or change the background without changing my appearance. And I don't need to bug someone to spend half the day taking pictures of me everytime I want to change it. Idk, I was trying it today and the generated images are surprisingly good.

>>34212010
It’s cope but it is the healthiest approach. If I get busy or whatever and just be fine being alone I guess my problem here would be nonexistent. There is a sadness as the years go by but whatever

>>34211617
So to be clear you want this to end, and not develop? If so then ask to be moved and dont humor her when she starts up

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>>34211712
Yes and no. On the one hand focusing on yourself is a good thing and will fulfill you in a lot of ways, but on the other theres a chance that its just an excuse to withdraw and not challenge yourself in social areas. Similarly, changing your lifestyle and doing things you dont like for the sake of a singular material goal is stupid, but if done for the the right reasons it can also broaden your horizons. So be honest with yourself, are you simply making excuses for not putting yourself outside of your comfort zone, or do you truly have a higher pursuit of self inprovenent and you'll totally definitely ask a girl out when you have the next chance to?

>>34211904
Its impossible, you can only limit the damage by asking her age from the beginning

>>34212367
I mean obviously I'd at least smash if I had the chance but it's not gonna happen until she breaks up with her bf and that could be tomorrow or literally never. So that's why I want to move on because she's messing with my head. I just can't get that close to a girl without getting the feelings, yes it's cringe but that's how my head works.
Also it's a small company so I can't really get away unless I actually quit.

Fuck everyone on here who doubted me.
I met this girl I had a crush on in high school by chance. I asked her out 2 years ago and got rejected.
But for some reason she started texting me and we've been doing that for the past like 2 months now.
I made a thread on here asking for advice, because I didn't know what to make of that (I had a ""date"" which involved her friend group). Yall told me there was 0 chance she was interested in me.
After that I asked her out for real and she said yes. So fuck you, I almost gave up because of the blackpillers on here

>>34212525
you're in for a world of pain

>>34212528
What do you know

>>34212492
Sounds like you know what your options are

went on the perfect date last week
we ate good ass food then went to a bar had really nice convo laughing
the chemistry was on point
we randomly find this bar that has a cat sitting on the counter, so quaint
we walk in and a celebrity she loves also sits at the bar with us
she loves this girl celeb and chats and laughs and everything feels like lightning in a bottle

then we about to go home she starts grabbing my hand and she's the one trying to go in for the kisses etc etc
like it felt she was more into me than me into her

Now i was in a power spot where the girl liked

But I felt it was all luck
anyway she messaged me constantly for three days after that, saying how she wants to meet me again next week
so i just said hey im free saturday let's grab a drink
she says ok
and i give her the spot and time

and no reply
ghosted

Crazy, how even the most perfect date can lead to being ghosted

I've been brute forcing my social anxiety by trying to look at people's faces more instead of the floor/background and a girl smiled at me today. Makes me wonder how many times that's happened but I was too autistic to notice it. Bet there are a lot of anons in the same boat.

>>34209755
Sounds like a slut.

>>34213007
What do you mean by ghosted? Like she hasn't responded in an hour? A day? Weeks? Because it would be fucking sad and hilarious if you were throwing the towel in before after like a day or two

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it's all about attitude

>>34213417
We are white asking for advice

I work stocking and they’ll be girls working online pick up in my aisles not sure what to say when we’re in the same area since it’s not for long. I know it’s probably smarter to build some rapport before asking for their number but I want to just ask for as many of their numbers and see which ones land how should I go for this and what should I say for either situation

>>34213172
Well 4 days she tested and said she won’t make it

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Anyone got any experience dating book worm girls?

>>34213954
Okay then be persistent and ask if she wants anothetidate/time.

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>be me 1 year ago
>go to climbing gym
>meet a cute girl who was there with her family, chatted about climbing and stuff
>she says she'd gladly climb with me if I needed a belay partner
>I 100% recognize this as a hint and think that I should swap numbers or something
>I still leave without getting her number for some reason
>ffw to the summer, I started climbing more frequently
>bump into her at the gym again, basically a repeat of the conversation and she even belays me
>I tell myself I wont make the same mistake
>I still hesitate and she ends up leaving again without swapping numbers
>ffw to today
>see her again, basically 1 year since the first meeting
>shes there with her new boyfriend and doesnt really interact with me besides a hello
I know im pathetic here but I guess the moral of the story for anyone is that you need to seize opportunities when they arise, dont expect them to be around.

>mid 20s
>decent looking
>can't open up due to childhood trauma (will most likely be working on it for a while)
>girls are generally interested in me, been even asked out a few times by them over the years
>the girls who are interested in me usually want a relationship
>the fact that I'm inexperienced makes everything even harder
>talking to women and treating them as a human is not an issue
>can't stand being around people for a long time though, especially spending time with the same person for a long time
basically the problem is that I need someone to just hook up with or something like that to make myself more comfortable with the idea of dating
my two main problems are that I can't seem to find the type of woman who would be fine with some intimacy or whatever without much commitment (I don't even care about sex I'm just unable to enter into a full on relationship with someone) and the other issue is that usually I start caring about the person by the time I'd ask them out and every flaw I see with us being together makes me feel responsible for anything bad that could happen to her in the situation

do I have any hope?

>>34215922
yea, just be more selfish overall
you're not there to fix anyone's problems
so everytime you feel any sort of responsibility for other's comfort just observe that
i.e. why do you feel that responsibility when you really shouldn't

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>girl at work obviously likes me
>flirts with me, always smiling and touching me
>comes up to me multiple times a day to chat
>don't do anything and stay distant because im interested in another girl
>other girl rejects me so i start talking to the one the likes me
>find out shes 17
what the fuck is wrong with women also is it that bad to wait a year i mean we are close enough in age i guess

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>>34205691
>Literally 6 hours into opening a tinder account and I’ve gotten the number of a scammer.
>Another 4 hours and another scammer adds me on snap.
Are these apps getting worse or is there a database of revisits and prior targets these guys use?

>coworker girl I was madly in love with and got rejected by a few months ago now has a BF who she seems to genuinely love and talks about him all the time in earshot
>cant leave my job because I make too much money in a niche field
Im going to have to kms aren't I

>>34214263
Yeah. They don't look like that.

>>34206277
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>>34206746
>>34206904
Update on this situation.

I did hear back from her, but the conversation was very stilted. One or two word responses. If this were a relationship, I would've assumed she was mad at me. But because we don't know each other that well, I decided not to prod and just leave it.

Dunno if that's useful field research, but there you go.

>>34216203
I mean that's just how I am probably due to the fact that I grew up in a very unstable household
I'm trying to change and be more selfish but apparently it's a long process, however I'd still like to make progress in my private life in the meantime, either to find a relationship or just to get more experience
I assume that finding women who are also a bit more detached or something similar would understand it but I'm not sure where to find them

>>34216221
If it's legal where you are who gives a fuck

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Dating apps are working quite well for me.
Am I a 10/10 gigachad thundercock or is 4chan just full of shit?

>>34217810
You're hotter than you think you are.

>>34217810
Both to a degree. It mostly depends on which app, if youre in the new account boost phase, and how you market yourself.

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>>34205691
Finally decided to try Facebook dating.
Nearly all the women I see on there fall into one of the following pitfalls:
>Have kids
>Too young and have very childish/low-effort profiles
>Morbidly obese
>Ink and/or excessive piercings
>Genuinely unattractive (Not going by porn-addicted coomer-brain standards; Just they have very unfortunate genetics)
The profiles I am most interested in are unfortunately 100+ miles away. Very unfortunate.
Been on for about a month, have had three matches. I unmatched two before conversation and I think the other unmatched me while I was pondering if I even wanted to message her.
Any advice, men?

Beendoing nofap for 7 days now. I'm stupid horny, whats the best method for hookups? Should I try and fuck the 40 year old woman at work? How do I go about seducing a cougar?

>>34218262
Just abstain from sexual content altogether. No porn, no IRL sex. Reset your sex-addicted brain.
It will be a mental challenge, but you can do it. I believe in you.

>>34218177
Sounds like partial bad selection luck, some of you being picky or too dismissive, but also just the nature of some apps. Ive never used FB dating but it sounds like my impression of bumble.

Should I just hire escorts? I'm a 44 yo loner, I've tried dating apps but only get 1 match per month and it's frequently a trannie or a super obese women with children. I'm a solo developer who works at home, and feel isolated. I miss having sex and don't know what else to do, but also I'm worried about STD's.

>>34218262
Install Grindr and fuck a femboy

So let's say I manage to somehow convince a woman to want to be with me. What to do as we're in a relationship. I know it sounds weird but I've never been in one, we obviously won't have sex all day every day I'm retarded but not retarded enough not to know it.

>>34210472
manson is shit and you have to realise that someone is taking the piss if myron gaines' book is one of those listed

>girl at church
>I said something and she turned to me and made direct eye contact (which made me nervous at first but also felt like she was interested in what I had to say?)
>talk to her female friend
>turn to talk to her and maybe ask her to coffee if I feel brave enough
>she's talking to another female friend for a while
So I talked to some friends of mine and then went home. I really like her style/the way she dresses in kind of thrifted stuff like I do. I've never gotten her number but I am in a groupme group with her and can IM her but I actually asked out the last girl I dated this way and feel like it's kind of cowardly to begin things via text but otherwise I'll have to wait another week and the same thing could happen. Should I just go up to her irl and say something like
>hey X I like your outfit, you always look nice and have a great style. Want to grab a coffee sometime?

You know what, mother's can raise a man to know women than the internet. WHAT 4CHAN! WHAT! THROW YOUR DAMN TOMATOES AT ME! I SAID IT! IT'S FUCKING TRUE!

>on date with college girl
>asks my age
>we're 15 years apart
>last two gfs were 13 years younger than me
>she gets shakey
>we had really good chemistry but now she seems a little anxious
>date lasts 2 hours but she didn't want to walk around/change venues with me so I eventually left, no hug goodbye for me
>last text from her: "I'm skeptical about the age difference"
>I replied "Yeah your hands were trembling"
I held her hand a little bit but didn't really escalate bc I was kinda on the fence about her due to red flags noticed. Still kinda want a second date, what do? It's been a date, any more from me would be a double text.

>>34219781
esl-tier grammar

>>34219946
Lol

>>34219932
I meant it's been a day since she texted me back.
I'm kinda stuck in between waiting a week or another day to text her or maybe even call her.
On one hand, if a girl is ever "ehh IDK" or "maybe" I'm turned off, I know they tdont like me.
However she seems like she could maybe go out again. I just dont know if I should wait or not. I think I usually am happy that I wait out these things.

>>34205691
Literally relate to this girl in every fucking way, ask her out.
>I am asexual, anon
WTF AHHHHHHHH FUCK MY LIFE
>inb4 your ugly
No, I quite literally am not I got offered to fucking model for fucks sake.
I wish I was not so fucking autistic that I can't hold a convo with any woman besides other terminally online autistic ones.

You want to know something? Keep being yourself despite what people think. You got in this mess with yourself to begin with, because at some point in your life someone told you you weren't enough and you gave up yourself. You let someone bigger than tell you you couldn't never make it. Now you're big, you're gonna let that shit get to you still?

>>34219725
Yep do it. The sooner the better
>>34220036
15 year difference for a college age kid is pretty significant and its fine if shes put off by it. Might be one of those things you have to let go of

Talked to two girls today
>coffeeshop
>talk
>say it'd be cool to talk sometime at x place
>tells me she'll be really busy but maybe she'll see me around
>yeah I'm pretty busy too, we'll see
>left

another one
>at grocery store
>shopping, see woman I like
>follow her a little and go to look at stuff adjacent to her, she comes next to me and stays for a while
>ask her a question about it and then go into a conversation
>a little nervous, I interrupt her accidentally to see myself out and get her number
>say go ahead what were you going to say
>keep talking
>say we should talk sometime
>tells me the same thing, I'm busy with school so...
>ah yeah me too, well good luck
>hesitate, tell her she looks like an ex of mine, she seems complimented, follows me a little, maybe I could have walked around the store with her?
I feel like I asked too quick, I was kind of nervous. In some interactions I don't let the silence happen and I sometimes interrupt when the girl is actually pretty interested in talking to me.
The hottest girl I've dated, I almost never talked, she would always be talking to me. she was at least a 8/10 if not more, these girls aren't even as attractive but i just feel nervous sometimes. Definitely not as much as I used to but I feel like I'm regressing and sometimes rejections from the same day affect me mentally, like I get a testosterone decrease from the loss.

>>34218672
Sounds like your career path landed you a lonely lifestyle. Even if you invited someone into your world, everything is probably set up to be enjoyed alone. Sex is social. Warmth and hospitality play a role.

You might wanna think about doing something else for money. We'd all like to pretend that we aren't our jobs, but that's not true anymore.

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Why do you guys gas up Hinge so much? Since the start ot the year. I've noticed these fake profiles with companies, schools and hometowns that are clearly AI-generated. Probably a good half of profiles I see are fake.

>>34220600
I forgot to mention i noticed something similar last year on the same app where all the fake profiles listed their job as "manager at Starbucks".

>>34220600
are you shadow banned on hinge?

>>34220247
>let go of
my last two gfs, 13 years different looked younger/prettier than her. I honestly thought she was 25 lol. I was so surprised when she said her age.
"college kid" cmon... next you'll say "office kid" and then "40 year old kid"

How do I meet women who aren't shallow, are virgins, feminine, and around 20-25 like me?

would it be weird if i asked a girl out on insta months later? i haven't spoken to them in awhile. i met them in person when i was doing a university teacher prac and she seemed alittle interested because we chatted and after the prac we exchanged instas. i think i fumbled it and didn't strike while the iron was hot. or is too late now?

>>34220747
It's too late. There's no harm in hitting her up, but leave it alone forever if she doesn't respond.

>>34220659
Idk, how am I supposed to know?

>>34220757
gay take
hitting a girl up after months is a demonstration of higher value. Best case scenario he runs into her again on the street but 2nd best is reaching out after months.

Ask her out. dont explain yourself about anything like some gay shit "ohhh im sorry for getting back to you so late"
just say
"so how about we get that drink. hows Friday?"

If a hot FWB ended things without explicitly saying so, is it worth staying in her orbit and responding to her texts in the hope of hitting again?

>>34220826
>her texts
Sure, just don't put in too much effort responding, she's likely looking for someone new, as you should

>>34220779
>>34220757
Well I got nothing to lose right? The worst case scenario is I get rejected and I see her walking around university or something.

i dont give af this dating thing overated as fuck

>>34220660
Kid is a state of mind. Im not denying that theyre adults and shouldnt be coddled, but ignoring that there are profound differences in maturity between college age adults and adults that have been self sufficient for several years is retarded. If youre both looking for a hookup then whatever but if youre looking for something serous then that will make a big difference

>>34220774
You get shitty matches and profiles shown to you without being outright suspended

>turn 29
>get a bunch of sweet matches in Taiwan despite the language barrier
>actress, dancer, teachers, entrepreneur, day trader
>come back to Canada
>most white women have tattoos, have a look in their eyes that says "I will argue with you, act unpleasantly moody, and I'm not zen"
>get a few matches with Asian women but they're all over 30 or have bad genetics

It's funny to get "stressed" about finding a partner before I'm too old because I know once I find a girl, I will want to be single again lol

>>34221351
Why look for a partner right now if you know it won't make you happy?

>>34212027
Nigga the only women I've met who read classical literature and watch cinema have been lesbians. Like i'm 4 for 4 here. If a woman i meet can talk about Goethe or Faulkner or Truffaut or Fellini she is 100% a full blown lesbian. The only people I've met engaging in these hobbies by going to old movie projections and book clubs have been other men, old women, and lesbians.

>>34221406
as a wfh fag with no friends, I need some human contact and sex

>>34220600
Are you paying for premium?

I was extremely in love with a woman who wants nothing to do with me after using me and giving me mixed signals for 4 years.

How do I move one without forcing it?

>>34221581
You have to force it, sorry.

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>>34220719
That's impossible anon. Around 20 - 25, nope, impossible.

>>34213417
Lian go to bed you're old and drunk.

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One of my favorite hobbies is reading nonfiction books mostly on the medical field or history. Is it worth mentioning this in my bio or adding pictures of one of my favorite books (pic related). I’ve talked to women who’ve shown interest in the fact I read when I bring it up but they lose interest when I specify it’s nonfiction.

>28 yo
>decently fit and attractive
>5'6 though
>have a career (six figures) and a house

Over the last year Ive had a really rough go at dating, lots of ghosting, couple trauma loaded single mothers, and a pregnancy scare with a woman who went on to start hooking after we stopped seeing eachother.

Ive tried apps on and off for years but things rarely go anywhere and feel like they are designed to destroy self worth. Never done facebook dating as I dont have social media.

Also did a few speed dating nights. Most of my conversations went well getting smiles and laughs, but I end up with no matches.

Honestly I feel like I am done trying.
Any advice for getting back on the horse? Alternative routes?

>>34221293
I've been getting shit matches and profiles since day one.

>>34221571
Hell no. Never paid for one of these apps and never will.

>>34222111
since you're a shortking with money, i suggest going after asian girls

>>34222111
>>34222294
I am white and pretty much only date white girls. Probably not helping my experience but its my preference. Not entirely opposed to it though, on apps and for in person dates if a girl was vaguely attractive I was making an effort even if not white.

>>34222111
Hobbymaxing seems like controversial advice here but I think it’s valuable. Join some kind creative or skill building class and you can meet more people irl, either other women or people who can introduce to more women.

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>be 31yo, 6'0 btw
>weekend away with voluntary group
>we're talking about age
>"I'm from 1995"
>17yo girl: "oh that means we're like 12 or 13 years apart?...uau"
>me: "yeah I guess, something like that"
>"So when I was..."

What the hell was the point? I don't think she was into me at all (didn't even call me my first name) but that did feel a bit, odd? not sure how to describe it. Specially when there were even older people in the group, 25f,35m, 32f, 44f and 47m.

>>34215835
who dares wins, now get climbing monkey boy!

>>34222516
She's intrigued by the fact you're old just the same as you are by the fact she's from early 2000s and yet you're not grampa old and maybe share some interests. Happened to be too at work, new intern is 16, I'm 27, she started calling me sir on the account of me being born in 98 and her in 2010, even though 10 years apart we share nearly the same taste in books and music, shit that for her is "ancient" and for me it's part of my teens or childhood.

>>34220425
now this takes balls my guy
here's the mindset shift that will be useful to you

whenever you approach anyone, say hi, just look at someone in the eyes in public anything
congratulate yourself. hype yourself up that you were able to do that
even if they reject you ignore you
you actually accomplished something
it will be beneficial to see any sort of social interaction as a win

so that when you approach your energy and mood constantly improves as you go along
social skills require some type of warm up which is why you felt a bit emberassed or nervous
which is solved by going into many interactions
and seeing each one, regardless of outcome, as something to be proud of

>>34222550
well I guess that could be it. I'm used to hear I don't look 31, on looks, but I also act goofy and jestermaxx on ocasion, so zoomers think I'm younger lol

>>34205691
>At 27, I have ED.
>I never had sex.
>I had a girlfriend for seven months with a no touching rule.
>The only girls to show a small amount of interest in me was 19 years old and it just seems like that would case more problems than it solves.
Is it over?

All my niggas pickup their girls from clubs but it's not really my scene where else do the hoes dress up expecting to get picked up that same night?

>>34222640
Same unc, same.

>>34222747
tinder

>>34222830
I'm ugly as fuck I can only pickup women with my charm

i told the girl i love to go out with me
she laughed
any advice?

>>34222612
yeah I do it almost every day, approach women. I just hesitate a lot and go for a more warm approach.
I had a date the previous day from talking to a girl at a coffee shop, actually. 3rd girl I went out with in January. I did really well last summer though, I hope to get back to those numbers again. I had a date a week.
I was just nervous yesterday I think.

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This is not an easy post I'm making on human nature and may offend a lot od people. This guy is a woman's worst fucking nightmare and worse than me and everyone here, yet still functions to keep a good spirit despite who he is. You have no excuse to accept who you are. It is inhumane to believe you don't deserve to be optimistic. Now true you have problems and may be negative, but as long as you are trying to get through the day that is all that counts.

Thought about typing out a greentext about my latest crush but then realized it’s pointless. It’s just me being indecisive.
This weekend, when I meet her again, I will look her in the eye and ask her out. Whatever happens, happens.

should I reach out to an ex who dumped me? It was demi ldr turning into actual ldr. we met in person but she had to return to her country. I was too eager to talk about our future I guess?

>>34223092
This is a great essay thesis, unironically. Great pic.

>>34223246
Just leave it. You need to force yourself to move past things and avoiding contact is the best thing you can do

>>34210472
Can anybody tell me what books is this post referencing?

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>>34212289
What's the best ai for generating pics for dating sites? I just don't have pics taken by other people, I want pictures like in nature or hiking etc. I do these things just nobody there to take pictures lol.

Hi so I'm moderately attractive and get some attention from girls, but all my experience is getting laid from dating apps. How do I get with girls irl via social events like bars, social gatherings etc? I get some vibes off some girls I talk to, but don't know how to take the next step. I end up talking to them and that's it. Is there some structure to making things happen/making a move?

>>34223547
I think only a minority of women fuck a lot of guys and most want relationships, but people end up stacking a lot of partners by simply breaking up every 1-3 years.

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>How do I get with girls irl via social events like bars, social gatherings etc? I get some vibes off some girls I talk to, but don't know how to take the next step. I end up talking to them and that's it. Is there some structure to making things happen/making a move?

I'm clueless about bars/clubs, as I was never successful/didn't try, but I met women in other social settings like in School, Uni, or voluntary work.
If you KNOW a girl is into you and it's easy to talk to her and flirt, it should be very to say "Hey we both like X Y and Z, let's do go out and do it this weekend".
I hope this is what you mean, and not :" how do I take her home from the club and raw dawg her". Women want to be courted.

>>34223554
precisely. They do this for 10 years, so do the math. My blackpill was realizing western women aren't ever single. Just jumping from branch to branch.

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my mind is broken

when I look at non asian women, I see men

for example, here is drake

>>34206841
>being this retarded and not just rawdogging her and impregnating her and force her to raise a kid that she will love over time and tell you to make more kids
Women don't even know themselves what they want. You simply show her the better alternative and she'll love it

>>34222276
Sounds like a you problem.

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If I don't have a social life, would I have better chances of getting a girlfriend if I cold approach?

>>34223790
Did you even read the sticky? The books recommended there are a bit on the beta side, but 100 x more valuable than any boomer / social media advice. If you are not the reading type, then pirate a pickup course from someone. There's tons of good ones. In the end, they all say the same when it comes to the structure of a pickup. Some focus more on the actual pickups, some offer more of a mindset / mentality advice, but the barebones should be all the same.

>get match on dating app
>struggle to think of a good first message because their profile gives nothing to work with
>no reply to the message I send
How do you write a good opening message?

>>34224065
>"hey, how's it going?" because it's inoffensive and always worked more than anything else I tried
>"pretty good, you?" ok you fucking bitch. Thank you for saying you aren't interested in my profile
>"Good, just finished reading about A." and perhaps ask a tangentially related question about it, but focus them. Or just leave it at that because they might get too egotistical.

it's hard to balance everything

>>34224065
Its definitely hard when theres nothing to go off but maybe you need to be more creative. Generally try to think of a way you can set up a ln opportunity to ask her out, like "do you give x lessons" or something like that

are you supposed to avoid talk to girls/making plans around valentines day?

>>34224109
no just keep things normal

I avoid socializing during christmas and new years

>>34216812
IDK man, just go meet up with her in person somewhere. Relying too much on text, I think, is something that people fall back on too much these days.

Take her out for another coffee, grab lunch, etc. It's really early at this point, but do that. If she's interested, she'll say yes.

>If this were a relationship, I would've assumed she was mad at me. But because we don't know each other that well, I decided not to prod and just leave it.

Good, don't overthink it. Continue to feel out the vibes; learn more about her and see where things go. Especially with written communication, do your best not to overthink what you may perceive as being curt or disinterested. Perhaps she was tired, busy at work/school/etc.

>>34218177
I think dating apps are some of the worst ways that you can meet women. Go outside and find some kind of club or activity where women are also present and pursue them there. Church even. Find some kind of common community place or event where it's conducive to approaching and establishing an acquaintanceship with a woman.

>>34219725

I second the opinion in >>34220247. Just do it. You already go to church with her so it's not like you're approaching her out of the blue and she's seen you around.

>>34221351
Find some younger woman, maybe from a different country? It's absolutely retarded how society has got it into younger (early to mid 20s) women to think it's disgusting to date a dude that is, in some cases, two or more years older than her. I know nothing of your situation; considering your age the probability that you are more established, sure of yourself, and know what you want to do with life is greater than that of a guy that is many years your junior. It's simply a matter of finding a woman that is willing to undertake your life journey with you and help support you along that path, whatever your ultimate mission may be.

>>34222706
I don't think it's over. From the sound of it, you need to identify shortcomings with yourself before you should really consider going after a woman.

If you are not in a good place, relatively healthy/fit/active, you're not going to attract a good, mentally sound woman. Chances are that 19 year old probably has something wrong with her and she's otherwise crazy. This is all easier said than done, but identifying your shortcomings and creating some kind of goal to accomplish that will better yourself, both mentally and physically. Until you transform yourself into the best being you can.

You don't have to be some 10/10 giga chad, but putting some effort into yourself will have a cascading effect. Other people will see that effort and perceive.

It's never over anon. wagmi.

>be 33 yo
>Meet this 18yo gymchick
>Shes giggling and all as we speak
>End up going to gym togheter
>Spent some time lifting talking and laughing
>I dropped her off at home
>Kinda radio silence on ig dms for a week
>Msgd her again
>She does reply but the texting kinda dry
>She says shes down to lift again

Maybe i need to take her for real date

>>34224136
I missed age gap trend that happened a while ago (or is it ongoing?) Was it a popular TikTok topic?

Even an author I follow in the UK mentioned it in his essay. He claimed IQ gaps should be the main topic of discourse and discernment when choosing partners. I agree with that. There are some other axes too,

>smart dumb (iq)
>simple colourful
>sane insane
>mature immature

I want moderate in each of these, except more colourful than simple and soulless.

I never even considered age gaps when I thought about this.

I know what I want to avoid in life, but do people actually have clearly stated life journeys and missions? I don't give a fuck about careers and houses. I have my hobbies, but even those I'm flexible with. I'm not depressed, or an unproductive loser. I just lean towards apathy rather than go go go dorking.

>>34224212
go for a warm up run at the park before the gym

idk if she'd wanna hang out after. Girls get self conscious about being smelly

I still pinned my ex gf down and picked her down. She never smelled.

>>34223392
Gemini Nano Banana is good for that shit, just look for prompts on X. And trust me, they work, women are so dumb.

>>34224233
>I missed age gap trend that happened a while ago (or is it ongoing?)

I'm not really sure, but interacting with some of the younger women in my family, it still seems to be a prevalent and entrenched idea among the collective consciousness. I believe the biggest pitfall with age, perhaps, is maturity level of the woman that you're pursuing. But there are plenty of women out there that are younger and more mature.

>He claimed IQ gaps should be the main topic of discourse and discernment when choosing partners.

I agree with that too; it's a combination of all those factors, and like you said, it's more a matter of finding the moderate combination of all of them for an ideal woman.

>I never even considered age gaps when I thought about this.

If I could do things over, I wish that I were older than my wife. We got married at 18 and have been married for over 10 years. We're also the same age. Early on, there were a lot of those young adult male insecurities (at least, insecurities that I had maybe other guys didn't have that experience) which went away as I aged and became more sure of myself and where I'm going in life. But, you being older and possibly getting a younger woman, I think, would be beneficial considering that you're more established in life.

>do people actually have clearly stated life journeys and missions?

Some do, I do at least. Career was always secondary to me; I pretty early on realized that I wanted a family. To be married and have a few children. There are plenty of other "side quest" activities I do as well; I'd classify my career advancement as one of things, along with my hobbies/interests and pursuing greater expertise and mastery within those areas. Years back I realized I needed to really record and frame it in my mind that I do have a mission/quest that I've undertaken lest I stray and falter into errancy.

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Maybe it's better to try and come across as strong as possible in my profile to start off with better rapport with the women I'd actually get along with long-term, rather than trying to seem generically appealing and get more matches total

>>34224322
this is where lookism i think completely fucks guys imo

ive tried to become generic chad, it does not work well for me, ironically being like chubby fluffy headed cute guy pulls a lot
chad version does not

I think I'm going to cold approach 200 women and ask them out for coffee and give up if they all say no. Apparently after 10-15 I should start getting numb to it and bored by rejection 30.

>>34224037
no, chances are better if you socialize. So just start.


>>34224212
why not...
My thing with girls between 18-24 is that they have a retarded perception of time and are talking to 10 different guys at the same time.
25yo+ and more present and leveled.

>>34205691
I'm 28 and I've never had a gf, been on a few dates in my adulthood but nothing beyond that. I realise now that I just want a woman (who i find attractive and is at the very least single) to speak/talk with. I'm pretty busy on a weekly basis and dating apps don't seem to be working. The more I think about dating the more clueless I realise I am and have no idea on how to proceed. Any actual advice would be appreciated.

>>34224410
>I think I'm going to
emphasis on this

Picking up women is a humiliation ritual. You have to be a jester. Unless your attractive you have to be constantly funny, interesting and just not stop talking or you're considered boring and they don't want to be around you. Meanwhile making guy friends is a breeze there is no expectations. Just hang around shoot the shit. Be as weird or autistic as you want. Just talk about anything and you can make new friends like nothing. I wish I was gay

>>34224673
Fine. I'm going to ask out 1 girl a day for 500 days starting March 1st. Apparently, that should give me 90% chance of 2-5 yeses over the course of three years.

>>34224683
Why starting March 1st, why not February 3rd?

>>34224698
I am very busy this month (and have been for the last several months) but it's almost over and March 1st seemed like the next closest significant date after it'll all be finished.

>>34224679
>Unless your attractive you have to be constantly funny, interesting and just not stop talking
Brother you have no clue what you're talking about

>>34222838
move on

>>34224713
said the attractive guy

>>34224754
Even a 5/10 guy knows that women don't like a guy who never stops talking. Everybody likes talking about themselves. The more you let them talk about themselves the more interesting they think you are. The #1 complaints of women on first dates are guys who endlessly yap in an attempt to seem interesting. Truly, you have no idea what you're talking about.

>>34224768
I'm not talking about first dates I'm talking about initial impressions. I work in a grocery store and my friend and I spend all our time trying to pickup customers and coworkers like it's a game. If your initial contact with someone is boring and you barely speak or aren't enthusiastic and seemingly interesting they will have no interest in talking to you again. My real personality is mostly quiet and it never works. My friend is insane with women he will get 5 numbers in a day and it's because he is funny and never stops talking to you. Everyone is attracted to someone who is charismatic and interesting like that. No one wants to be interviewed or have boring small talk about what did you do this weekend type garbage

>>34224774
I don't know what to tell you, dude. Women don't like men that never stop talking. I don't know why you would pretend to know anything about women when you're a virgin with zero experience dating or having sex.

>>34224800
I've seen it with my own eyes. I'm sure your job interview questionnaire goes great with the ladies

>>34224803
>I've seen it with my own eyes.
You're a virgin with no experience dating or having sex with women. Clearly, the conclusions you've come to with your own eyes have been useless. I have no clue what kind of moron you have to be to think your insight as a complete failure is worth anything.

>I'm sure your job interview questionnaire goes great with the ladies
Firstly, its not a questionnaire, its a series of compounding questions. I.E. if you as a woman "Hey, so what do you study in school?" and they say "Anthropology" your next question would be something like "Oh really? That's super interesting. What area of study are you going into?". This is like basic women 101 shit. People love talking about themselves, especially women. Give them an opportunity to talking about stuff they're excited about and listen with enthusiasm and 99% of people will come away thinking you had a really great conversation. This is how I've managed to sleep with 50+ women in my lifetime. How many women have you successfully picked up? Oh yeah, that's right. None.

>>34224816
>You're a virgin with no experience dating or having sex with women.
How did you come to this conclusion?

>"Hey, so what do you study in school? What area of study are you going into?"
Yeah this shit doesn't work maybe you're like 35+ and that works with older women. Zoomers don't care for this type of thing. Are you going for 19-21 year olds?

>>34224830
>How did you come to this conclusion?
Firstly, it could not be more obvious. All of you types have the same very ignorant confidence about a topic you have zero first hand experience in because you can't accept that you're a failure. Secondly, I've said it like three times at this point and you haven't denied it.

>Yeah this shit doesn't work maybe you're like 35+ and that works with older women.
>Zoomers don't care for this type of thing. Are you going for 19-21 year olds?
Brother, how would you know? You've never picked up a woman. You're a virgin. You have no clue what women like.

>>34224834
>and you haven't denied it.
I wanted to see if you were a mod reading my posts. I get laid and often go on dates but I've never had a real girlfriend and I made a post about it a while back.

>Brother, how would you know?
I know because I told you I spend all my time trying to pickup women with my friend. I have learned what works and doesn't at least with the zoomer age. I get a date a month maybe meanwhile like I said he gets multiple a day more than anyone I've ever seen so I put my trust in him more than you as a 38 year old. Zoomers like fun and like to laugh. They don't want to be interviewed about school

>>34224852
>I get laid and often go on dates but I've never had a real girlfriend and I made a post about it a while back.
Kek. No you don't. No need to lie on the internet.

>I know because I told you I spend all my time trying to pickup women with my friend.
You've never had a real girlfriend. You know nothing, anon. You think watching your sped friend fuck other speds in a grocery store is life experience but it isn't and you're too young to understand it yet but, hey, good luck. Don't take my advice. I don't care. Arguing you out of being a loser isn't on my to-do list today.

>They don't want to be interviewed about school
If that's what you gathered from my post you are truly more lost than I could have imagine.

>>34224858
My friend has 500 hot ass girls on his snapchat. How many 19 year olds do you have on snap boomer? Do you even know what snap is?

>>34224864
Brother, if you've got it all figured out then feel free to ignore everything I've said. I truly do not care.

>>34224902
I just want to know if it works with 19 year olds and you haven't responded

>>34224979
It does but not as much as after 25

There's at least several kind of women in any generation in any culture.

>>34224979

I'll answer your question but preface it again with the qualifier that I don't give a shit if you believe it or not.

>if it works with 19 year olds
It works with anybody of any gender of any age. Its foundational to the process of exuding confidence and charisma. Its a psychological fact that people enjoy talking about themselves and their own interests. Its a psycho-social illusion where people feel greater levels of attachment and emotional investment in people who give off the appearance of listening and assimilating information. I.E. a woman will find it attractive if she mentions her dog getting surgery one week and the next week you ask her how it went. People report high levels of satisfaction in conversations where they get to talk about themselves regardless of how much substantive participation the other person has. If you ask questions about their lives and seem excited about and interested in the answers 99% of people will enjoy talking to you in any context, romantic or not. This is just a fact so true on its face there's nothing useful I can tell you if you don't understand this.

The caveat I'll add is that it really depends on what you're looking. If you're looking to just have sex then, obviously, the quality of conversation is less important. If someone just wants to have sex with you then how engaging you are in conversation will likely be irrelevant i.e. people who hook up at bars and clubs. 19 year olds who are hooking up on snapchat probably don't care much how great of a conversationalist you are but you will struggle keeping them on the hook for weeks or months if all you do is constantly talk. You may get away with it in specific circumstances but anybody will tell you that confidence and charisma is not endless yapping. Outside of maybe hookups or occasional sexting women don't find it interesting that you never stop talking. This is something they routinely complain about.

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>>34205691
I guarantee im in a position that would stump the most pretentious love expert.

So many of you motherfuckers complain and ask “well what do I say to a woman?!?!?”

Nigger, 90% of the game isn’t in what you say. It’s mostly body language and attitude. I’ve had women that wanted to fuck me without me saying a single word. If you think your invincible and can walk through walls like the kool aid man women love that shit even if it’s not true. Do a bump of coke and roll out to the bar one night and you’ll see what I’m talking about.

>>34224864
Why the fuck do you faggots larp on here? Because its easy? Because you have no burden of proof? Because of some delusion in your head? Cmon be honest for once. For fucking ONCE.

To all the autistics here, you need to be at your peak, not at your bottom, to date someone. That means you have to be at your peak so well that if you were thrown on the streets you could still carry yourself. If you do not build that, you are fucked.

Alright, your girlfriend is going to be this brave gentle type too. And she is gonna want you to be at the best of what you are now. That means, no sleeping in, no NEETing, no laziness, no unhealthiness, no being a whiner. Bro you gotta be at your best. You may not be a 10 at your best, but you'll be an 8.5 out of 10 and that is good enough if you do all this.

>>34225430
Thats true for...anyone though? Nobody is gettin laid just chillin on the sofa in their sweats. We're all putting on a fucking performance just to get our dicks wet or our asses filled, its not just an autist thing.

>>34225444
I'm gonna try to be the real thing though.

girl stared at me today, in fact I noticed a few stared at me today. I was crying in my car about my ex not too long before
>walk into grocery store
>see hottie and we lock eyes as I pass
>see her again but she's with an old woman, presumably her grandmother
>we make eye contact again
>I go to check out and sit down outside to drink a coffee
>she sits near me, grandma follows
>even moves to a closer seat to me
>we make eye contact again

I would have been totally ok with just going up and being "you look familiar..." starting with that, but I just felt kinda weird, she looked young, but it was in the morning so she had to be of adult age.
FUCK


PPlus ive been crying about my ex, just thinking about how crazy it was that we even met, and how she was perfect and unlike any girl Ive ever dated before and that to date a girl like that again would be a miracle, because I have girls who show me reall good signs and signals and actually kiss/fuck me who are not even close to that ex and its fucking outrageously retarded how I can't have her or someone like her ever again

>>34224679
so be gay

>>34224148
I’m going to thank you for trying to inject hope here.
Now I’m going to argue why it’s more complicated.
>short comings
These are things I feel completely aware of. The problem is my attempts to solve issues have been leaving me worse off.
For example,
-I worked a low income job for a while and went for a promotion.
-When my boss ignored me, I interviewed for another department with better pay.
-I ended up in the other department,
-gained weight due to overtime being required,
-left when they stopped paying my overtime and wouldn’t let me transfer back,
-and then failed my next interview because I wasn’t currently working.
So I went from a lowly employee who had a fit build, to a fat unemployed man in 6 months.
So right now, my self improvement attempts all seem to be backfiring dramatically.
>she probably had something wrong with her
Yes and no.
I went on one date with her.
I didn’t really have much in common beyond a gym schedule.
She was hyper fixated on getting a husband and Christian kids in the future. My only problem with that is waiting for her to finish college to marry and have sex. 30 just seems too old to be a virgin.
Both her and my ex are beautiful though.

You couldn’t have known any of that though.
And you’re right, I’m probably not in the best position to date right now. At least until I get an average income again.
But at the same time, the clock is ticking. I don’t have long before I never get the young couple thing my parents had. I’m already past my dad’s age when having me.
He didn’t have a good income when I was a kid.

Idk man, it’s just hard to believe anymore I guess.

>>34225653
I would date a tranny if God was not real and that is not a joke.

>>34225688
Nothing wrong with that. It just isn't most people's thing, like how men are not a lesbian's thing.

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>>34205691
There is no institutional protections for marriage anymore, women have total control, and they're using it to cheat on their partners and be degenerates.
What do men even do these days if they want to seek a loyal lifelong partnership? The ability to trust women and their histrionics is simply long gone, and I have seen so many countless examples of this in women it's just tiring.
I've tried dating apps, where all women just seem like brick walls, all they want to do is party and fuck around.
I've tried personal meetups, where women are brainrotted from media and modern politics, they don't want children, they don't want family, they just want to sit on the couch and consume.
I see no silver lining, I see no future, no matter how strong or great I'll be eventually I will age, my muscles will degrade, women will simply divorce and go fuck around and party to try and "Find themselves", they won't allow me to be smart with my money because they want to buy useless shit, they take everything, and give nothing.
This is the state of things, and I honestly don't see any way to fix it that is feasible.
I can't talk with women anymore, they don't want anything, so there is just nothing to talk about.
What do I even do?

>>34225913
dig a hole a die....y'all niggas just not built for the modern day love free-for-all

>>34211952
There's no problem with this, girls use airbrushing and filters all the time. If you're just using it to fix a smile, there's no reason to find any fault there.
A good rule of thumb is "Does this make me look better than my own natural best?"
If the answer is yes, don't do it. If the answer is no, then there shouldn't be any problem.

>>34219725
You might want to add in a little more doubt as to whether you like her. If she knows she's got you this early, there's not as much to keep her around for her to discover how cool of a guy you are.
Something like "You seem like the sort of person I might like, I hope you're as X as you are Y." rather than giving three straight compliments in a row.

>>34226210
this sounds retarded

>one of my coworkers is this really fucking insufferable boomer leftist twat who comes off like some unholy mix of a redditor and a tumblrina
>has a really hot 18 year old daughter who seems attracted to me
>pretty athletic with a sexy figure, smart and a very sweet, feminine girl which is surprising given how much of a total faggot her dad is
>legit could be model material
>recently broke up with her boyfriend and seems lonely
>problem is that we have an age gap, I’m 32
>still wanna bang that ass though, plus it’d be satisfying to see that boomer have to cope with his daughter getting railed by an older right-wing chud
>for what it’s worth I’m in pretty good shape and have nicely defined features after losing weight

Anons who pulled younger, what’s your strategy?

>>34224274
A 40 year old black man and a 16 year old white girl must have the same IQ because 18 year old white girls wont look at me and im a 30 white male

>>34226062
This is the thing, low IQ tards like you don''t even see the problem with modern dating, or with modern women especially.
What is even the point anymore if women don't want to start families, be community members, or have children?
Sure, I can adapt to go knock up some harlots, it's just sad this even has to be the case.
We're going to have to fight hard to revoke the 19th and put women back under the belt, so fuck it, I'm breaking my vow, and I'm never going to respect women ever again.
I have officially been made chud, I hate Jews, Freemasons, Browns, and Women.

>>34226568
There is no age gap. There are only IQ gaps.

Anyone have a good guide for the type of photos that should be taken and used for dating online? I don't have any phhotos of myself and I don't really know how to use a camera.

I started asking friends to take pictures of me while we're out and my god not a single one of them can use a camera for their life. Is it worth hiring someone for good pics?

>>34226599
plenty of woman on this earth want the traditional marriage life

you are just inadequate at attaining one

there's never been a better time in history for a pathetic faggot racist like you to
find a near ideal mate

like I said, dig a hole and die bitch

>>34226730
Holy reddit

>>34226731
thank you for the engagement faggot...heres and upvote