>>34212676
Maybe you should just stop looking at porn as well as stop blaming others for your own addictions

>>34212685
Not looking at porn won't stop the natural addiction to women or make women drain your nuts in return for hard work or care though. The ones against porn are usually still in support of addiction to women.

>>34212676
You can masturbate as much as you like, just don't use porn when you do

Beating your meat is a thing and porn is a thing, I smell jew

>>34212749
I've actually been able to use imagination to get off pretty well a few times recently but it was based on hot figures I had seen from certain porn. Again I hear people use the nature argument saying it would be way harder to see any naked women but again the general behavior in nature was wild. They would just take women. The types saying this shit would cringe if a woman was accurately called a bitch forget being taken against her will. Why should I live according to just the downsides of being a caveman or war fodder? It makes no sense. The women sure as fuck aren't practicing a fraction of that type of chastity. You can't even get women to stop fucking the wrong men and in the wrong way to save their lives but you want to get on my case over porn? Are you fucking serious?

>>34212770
Is looking at hot women Jewish?

>>34212676
>I just got two recent popular videos recommended in my feed about how bad porn is and it's always the same dumb shit.
nobody cares dude
go to another board, this is for asking for advice

>>34212810
Ok then fine how do you deal with all the retards who want uber chastity from men while letting women fuck themselves into cancer and single motherhood? What are men reasonably supposed to do if porn is seen as evil and harmful but the women meant to be the outlet for your sex drive are more harmful? I'm not expecting much from you. Find another thread I guess.

>>34212676
Porn is harmful in the sense that watching it will reduce gray matter in your brain and make you retarded. It's not good for your health or relationships with others.
You can just release without looking at it.

>>34212854
The grey matter thing sounds like the talk about dopamine. It sounded smart but these people talking about this stuff don't sound so smart practically. They still ignore the elephant in the room. The more committed semen retention people just come off as having bigger ego not being much smarter. One of them unironically argued they don't need to interact or depend on anyone. It's not good for my health or relationships to be sexually deprived or hypocritically judged over porn but that's the behavior these enlightened people still engage in or support.

Cultures go through purity panics sometimes. Enshitification can then ensue. I’m sure you’re still able to access porn and will continue to be able to. My advice is to stop caring what other people think about it and to just keep your usage to yourself. Try not to let your usage become a problem but that’s a topic of it’s own. It’s hard to change public opinion about things like porn because it’s much easier to be the person rallying against it than advocating for it. You’re free to always say you value art and speech and personal responsibility as arguments for why you support porn but you’ll alienate yourself if you come at it from most other angles like gender relations or focusing on male loneliness which doesn’t even have widespread sympathy out there.

>>34212879
>It sounded smart but these people talking about this stuff don't sound so smart practically.
Who cares about the people who say it? All that matters is the concept.
If some group of people told me not to try heroin and those people were annoying, I still wouldn't do heroin.

>>34212676
Strictly speaking, noncommittal sex is worse than porn, given the same act, since you're actually committing the wrong yourself instead of merely watching it. It's obviously still messed up to watch a gore video, but that's miles away from actually doing it someone.

Also, you're wrong to treat sexual impulse as something that HAS to be satisfied under any circumstances. Neither porn nor sex, even within a proper context, is a "need", and even genuine needs like food have healthier or unhealthier means of being satisfied.

>>34212843
Treat them like the retards they are.

>>34212885
The people who say it involve those abstaining who should be healthier and smarter according to what you're saying. I've heard porn compared to drugs too. Yet men have lost much more trying to have relationships the normal and expected way than they've lost from porn. They prematurely age from the stress and bad environment. It's not just that they're annoying but what they say isn't practically backed up. They're not very smart and it just seems like they're exaggerating.

>>34212913
>The people who say it involve those abstaining who should be healthier and smarter according to what you're saying.
They are healthier and smarter than they would be if they weren't abstaining.
>Yet men have lost much more trying to have relationships the normal and expected way than they've lost from porn. They prematurely age from the stress and bad environment.
You're acting like the only options are porn or relationships. However, there is a third option which is to release without looking at porn.

>>34212898
I didn't say you had to be sexually satisfied in every situation but it is a need that's meant to be satisfied. And if there's free time I don't see the issue. It's not needed like food or water but it's needed for functioning as intended. Technically speaking you could be locked in a basement somewhere fed only crackers and dirty tap water every few days while still living for years. But we don't live to technically exist. Just because you can technically exist perpetually sexually frustrated doesn't mean that's how you're meant to live. Saying you don't need sex is like saying you don't need consistent good quality food because you can function with much less. You don't need much to keep sucking air.

>>34212937
They're healthier and smarter allegedly but they act like any other idiot. Either they were especially stupid before or it doesn't make you that much smarter. Releasing without porn ends up being me imagining my own porn usually based on porn I already watched anyway. I don't see why I can't look at more attractive women.

>>34212965
>They're healthier and smarter allegedly but they act like any other idiot. Either they were especially stupid before or it doesn't make you that much smarter. Releasing without porn ends up being me imagining my own porn usually based on porn I already watched anyway. I don't see why I can't look at more attractive women.
If you want to keep doing it, go for it. It's your life. I'm not going to be able to stop people from doing heroin or whatever dumb shit they want to do.

>>34212972
But that's the thing I'm not seeing how it's all as bad as heroin or these other hard drugs people keep comparing it to. These drugs actually kill people and destroy their bodies or leave them homeless. They're just making bullshit comparisons while ignoring the bigger problem right in front of them because they consider it natural.

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>>34212993
>But that's the thing I'm not seeing how it's all as bad as heroin or these other hard drugs people keep comparing it to. These drugs actually kill people and destroy their bodies or leave them homeless.
It destroys your mood and your relationships with other people. If you're okay with being depressed and degrading the quality of your social interactions, then that's your choice.
Look at this guy, does he look healthy to you? That is what happens.

>>34213014
But I've been depressed and seen others depressed while not watching porn because there's other shit involved. If you don't watch porn they still refuse to treat you right for various other reasons. And my relationships have been messed up from so many things unrelated to porn. You're exaggerating and oversimplifying things. I have all my hair and look fine despite cooming constantly for a long time.

>>34213042
To list what went ridiculously wrong with different people besides porn. Them getting drunk and saying/doing stupid shit multiple times. Them being loud as fuck for no reason despite repeated warnings. Lying for no good reason multiple times. Involving multiple other guys while trying to date me. Arguing with me in defense of an attention whore. Blaming me for things I couldn't possibly take responsibility for at the time while pretending they weren't involved. The general dysfunction with women being chaotic and unreliable right now. Etc. I have plenty to be depressed about even without porn. I swear every time it's implied everything else is functioning as intended and dropping porn would just fix it.

If you don't want advice and just want people to validate your porn addiction, why did you make a thread?

>>34213042
>But I've been depressed and seen others depressed while not watching porn because there's other shit involved. If you don't watch porn they still refuse to treat you right for various other reasons. And my relationships have been messed up from so many things unrelated to porn.
Porn makes it worse than it would have been if you didn't use it.

>>34212676
These people are usually christcucks who don't want you to waste your seed.

>>34213230
If you're here to give advice why do you only complain or say stupid shit and call it advice? Blaming depression and failed relationships soley on porn isn't helping anyone.
>>34213234
I tried not watching porn and big surprise I didn't notice much of a difference in life's problems. It's almost like everything going wrong isn't limited to whether I look at my screen and tug my dick. You say things are worse because of porn or you're smarter if you don't watch but the evidence on the field isn't showing a big enough difference to justify stopping.

>>34212676
Ai is going to destroy porn as a career anyway so it may come to actually physically draining balls for money for whores

>>34212676
They banned normal porn in my state so now I have to look at softcore ssbbw hentai every day instead of real women.

>>34213014
>it destroys your mood and relationships

No it doesn’t. You like every other purity retard has got the cause and effect backwards. Guys aren’t depressed because of porn, guys turn to porn because they are depressed with no intimacy and affection and porn happens to take the edge off so they don’t blow their brains out. Same way that people aren’t lonely because of being online but because lonely people with no friends are more likely to spend more time online.

None of you faggots are interested in helping men, you’re just interested in taking away our coping mechanisms.

>>34213403
>I tried not watching porn and big surprise I didn't notice much of a difference in life's problems.
No one said it removes your life problems. What abstinence does is improve your mood and improve the gray matter in your brain so you will make better decisions.
>No it doesn’t. You like every other purity retard has got the cause and effect backwards. Guys aren’t depressed because of porn, guys turn to porn because they are depressed with no intimacy and affection and porn happens to take the edge off so they don’t blow their brains out. Same way that people aren’t lonely because of being online but because lonely people with no friends are more likely to spend more time online.
This is a retarded argument. "Heroin doesn't have negative effects because people who use heroin were already depressed to begin with."

>>34212705
Offloading accountability to another addiction is lame. If you're addicted to porn then deal with that and don't make excuses for it

They should stop trying to put limits on porn cause most men would go postal if they had to do the song and dance that is modern dating.

>>34213554
Retard you don't get much choice in the addiction. If you don't have a woman you feel worse and do worse physically because you're designed to have one. It's how you came here. What responsibility do you want me to take that I don't already?

>>34213014
Dude, masturbation does not cause any of the things you seem to think it does.

>>34212676
>I'm dead serious
You also suffer from an inflated sense of entitlement.

>>34213718
You're right, masturbation doesn't do that. Porn does.

>>34213732
It's an inflated sense of entitlement to try and limit what men can watch or do with their dicks while you fail to offer the natural outlet for the sex drive. What are you offering to men who don't watch porn? Nothing. So stop acting like you should have a say over their bodies buddy.

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>>34213792
I wont give up porn because I need ths outlet. I dont want to find out what id do with all of that dark obsessive energy that makes me need this stuff.

>>34213447
Mostly true.

I wouldn't call it "taking away coping mechanisms".

According to self reporting, there's at least one man who never watches porn. That man doesn't need porn banned for him. Men don't need soda banned incase they drink themselves fat, cars banned incase they get into accidents etc.

Alcohol causes problems for men. Why not ban that? That's Prohibition and I think its clear why a certain type of busybody women (some male) want to ban porn. I don't buy the church wo(men) argument about it being holy either. It's control and the desire to oppress the race of men.

>>34213014
This is just his sould showing through. He was always gonna end up like this

>>34213457
Heroin isn’t even remotely comparable to porn and you’re a cretin for even trying to draw a comparison.

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>>34215900
It's quite comparable.
https://www.yourbrainonporn.com/miscellaneous-resources/start-here-evolution-has-not-prepared-your-brain-for-todays-porn/

>>34212749
>use a dildo instead

>>34212937
>However, there is a third option which is to release without looking at porn.
Or not release at all

>>34213413
The world is healing

>>34215915
>posting shit from 2015 that got debunked only a year later

I can't believe you stupid fucks are still citing Your Brain On Porn as an actual valid authority.

>>34217859
Did Your Pain On Porn conduct its own research or are they citing other sources?

You know that thing about how weed won't destroy you but it makes you comfortable with mediocrity? Porn is like that

Basically you're pushing all the reward buttons with none of the work and it makes you unmoivated and entitled.

Not to mention the people who think porn is a how to guide when it's about as realistic an example of sex as action films are of irl violence.

>>34217866
From what I recall they were citing a couple of prior studies, one of which got withdrawn due to shitty methodology and the other was criticized for trying to bait and switch correlation with causation ignoring that their test subjects had other underlying issues that they failed to account for.

Porn, like anything else, is bad if you excessively partake in it but the same goes for consuming sugar. And it's "addictive" in the same sense as sugar but trying to paint it as the same thing as hard drugs like heroin is beyond moronic and is exactly what makes anti-porn crusaders get painted as nutjobs.

>>34217945
>Porn, like anything else, is bad if you excessively partake in it but the same goes for consuming sugar. And it's "addictive" in the same sense as sugar but trying to paint it as the same thing as hard drugs like heroin is beyond moronic
All of the leading causes of death are linked to obesity.
>is exactly what makes anti-porn crusaders get painted as nutjobs.
Who gives a shit? The people doing heroin always think they're doing the right thing and everyone else is wrong.

>>34212676
I'll tell you why: I had girls practically throwing themselves at me, asking for my phone number, if I want to study after class, initiating small talk whenever they see me. Under normal circumstances, I would have reciprocated. But because of porn, I so no reason to engage further with them. I felt they didn't add value to my life. Thing of all the babies that would have been born, contributing to society, if I instead had gone out with them and had intercourse. This is why both porn must be banned. If you dont turn into a rabbied dog when a female gives you attention, that means you are defective.

>>34217977
>Think of all the bastards that would have been born if I had let my penis guide my decision making!

>>34218009
>dont let laws of nature guide your decisions, goy

>>34218122
Do you have no care for the children or are you just dense?

>>34217977
>If you dont turn into a rabbied dog
why do you have to turn into a Jewish dog though

>>34212676
If porn actually was bringing birth rates down, i would be for banning it.
South korea is definitive proof that porn and birth rates are not connected. Porn is completely illegal in south korea and the birth rate is the lowest in the world.

>>34218244
>birth rate is the lowest in the world
Because they're developed but have way fewer thirdie immigrants than Western nations. Also does that porn ban actually work and people don't just ignore it or circumvent any blocks?

>>34212676
true, imagine how many more rapes and murders would happen if porn/prostitution didnt exist

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Nothing is more cucked than watching porn. You're literally fapping to other man's balls slapping another woman's vagina. Porn ruins your perception of relationships and is the entrance to a long miserable life of mere cuckoldry. OP is either a cuck, or a jew: simple as.

>>34218253
>Also does communism actually work and people don't just communist hard enough

>>34212676
consider the fact that you think sex is a genuine need and how that might be subtly influenced by your excessive porn consumption

>>34217866
nta but you can't actually experiment on humans with porn due to how harmful it's been found to be by previous experiments. this makes its effects harder to study.

>>34217959
>All of the leading causes of death are linked to obesity.
dude fuck off your bullshit. you can literally die from your first and only time doing heroin. developing diabetes literally takes months/years/decades then EVENTUALLY dying isnt even remotely comparable. fucking christcucks and their binary good/bad, right/wrong, white/black thinking about everything with no concept of severity, spectrum, scale, scope, etc.

>>34212676
>Why are retarded people retarded?
Bruh just watch porn and stop thinking about/discussing this topic. Only women and retarded moralizing christians care about porn being "bad". Go to /r/nofap or whatever and look at the profiles of the people posting there I GUARANTEE you all these people are massive losers and weirdos.

>>34218244
Porn is illegal to produce in South Korea not consume. And even that isn't enforced since you have South Korean OF models that constantly skirt the line by shaking their asses on camera.

>>34218244
This must be the dumbest post I have ever read. Isn't Youtube illegal in China but like everyone still uses it anyways? I do agree with the birth rate thing but why would anyone even think they could be correlated. People had VHS tapes before the internet you know.
>>34221104
Yo fun/crazy fact: Child porn was readily available and completely legal in some Scandinavian country I think Sweden up until the 90's or 2000's or something but production was illegal lol

>>34213843
This

>>34220949
>you can literally die from your first and only time doing heroin. developing diabetes literally takes months/years/decades then EVENTUALLY dying isnt even remotely comparable.
You can also do heroin for your entire life and never die. Obviously, the comparison is about the effects addiction has on the brain and not physical harm.

>>34212676
Da jooos da jooos
>They made the shoes in house...
>The pile of shoes never belonged to a living person
>Read maus proves the Holocaust was jew drivin
>The secret police was designed for wealthy semites to steal from poorer ones

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>>34212676
You can't fix your porno addiction if you deny you're addicted.