>>34217717
I ain’t reading that sap. Have a bump.

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>>34217717
Sarah here, I've tried my best and lost my patience halfway. Don't ever send this to her. Unless you want to freak her out. You need to be kinder and make this mostly about her, then bring yourself in the picture and re-imagine her with you.

But instead, instead. YOU THREATEN HER FATHER and say things like: "Remember the time you almost got raped? Yeah, i saved you".

God help us all. Forget it, send this to her so she finally get out of this toxic friendship. I'm sorry, this is mean but you're kind of unhinged. I have more not-so-kind words, but i'll spare you the details.

>>34217717
>I literally don't have any other friends to guide me on whether it's a good idea.
It's not. If she's known you for that long, she thinks of you as a brother, not a potential boyfriend. If you confess she'll say no and you will permanently blow up the friendship as well.

>>34217717
If that picture is actually your letter, then that is genuinely the creepiest thing I've ever seen.

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>>34217849
Ending the paragraph with "Let's cuddle <3" and starting the next one with "I wanted to break your father's jaw"

Jesus.

>>34217717
Looks good bro, send it

>>34217845
Your comment might be the only good thing that came out of this awful 'love' letter

>>34217868
I’m with this anon, just send it and see what happens.
>You miss 100% of the shots you don’t take
>DiamondMining.jpg
>Better to live life on the edge
Etc.

>>34217717
its a big NAH from me anon

maybe try a "soother" approach

>>34217717
Yeah this is fucking unhinged. You're basically an obsessive creep. I've been that guy before (maybe not as bad) and you could really regret this.
I'm not even sure what to say here. What would I say to myself when I was like this? I guess I'll try that.
You need to grow up. You need to work on yourself and be confident in yourself, because no one likes someone who is desperate. No one wants to have to support someone with constant emotional labor.
Do you know what charisma is? It's just confidence plus friendliness. That's what people perceive as "charismatic". Too much confidence without friendliness and you come off as an arrogant prick. Too much friendliness without confidence and you come off as desperate.
You are desperate. You're trying to construct a story where she has to pick you because of everything you've been together instead of just telling her how you feel and letting her make that choice. You are not secure enough to think she will remember all the things you've been through together.
The good news is, you are very friendly, and you could have the world, but if you don't work on that confidence issue the world is going to pass you by.
You have to get out into the world and experience lots of things so you stop fixating on the chances you have right now. You have to adjust your thinking to be positive and not spiral. You have to not think about the same girl constantly.
I would tell her how you feel. Take the notes above seriously. You need to tell her SIMPLY and without trying to put it together in a way that she can't possibly say no because of all the shit you've been through together. That's not how people work. She likes you or she doesn't, you can't make her. And if you start ranting like this again, stop yourself and simplify.
But whatever her response, work on yourself. Physically, mentally, whatever. Think about what someone like her needs in a partner, and become that person.

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>>34218250
>You're trying to construct a story where she has to pick you because of everything you've been together
Now that you've said, it makes sense now... he's trying to narrate a typical shonen but instead just made a shitty fanficition like my immortal.

That was a nice catch anon

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>>34217717
>I will bury them with my bare hands
I want to wear her skin so I can meet you and be loved by you, OP

jizzing all your pent-up emotions and obsessive machinations at once in one big letter is probably a bad play

just keep being a good supportive friend if thats what you truly want, but if you're trying to make a play for the girl then I think its a bad approach anon

>>34217717
How about you try dating her and holding hands and kissing and then fucking instead

>>34217717
This is beyond putting her on a pedestal, holy shit. OP, tell us how she responds to your manifesto.

>>34217717
Please don't do this to yourself

>>34218162
Ultimately this is what I decided to do. I sent it to her a few hours ago and she logged on, saw the letter... but hasn't said anything to me. I'm wondering whether I should say something back?
>>34217849
I'm sorry you feel this way, but it took me a long time to write and came from the heart.
>>34218250
I don't think I'm obsessive. I don't think I need to grow up either. I'll always be me.

>>34220806
>I'm sorry you feel this way, but it took me a long time to write and came from the heart.
This is what's known as "sunk cost fallacy" and it may have cost you a life with the girl you love in this case.
>I don't think I need to grow up either. I'll always be me.
I'm sorry but you do OP. Again, remember I'm talking to someone who acts like I used to act a long time ago.
You don't have full self awareness right now. Maybe this situation will teach you that. Maybe it just has to awaken one day.
All we can do is tell you how your actions and words appear from the outside. If you choose to reject that and instead believe others are going to perceive your actions the way you perceive them, that's on you. I hope you learn that the only one in there is you and you can't force people to see your way.
I hope when she rejects you it isn't going to break you. The question is if you're going to learn from this fast.
When she rejects you, read this again. You can't go further down the rabbit hole and fixate on her more. This isn't good for you. Don't let yourself fall into depression or defeatism either. Work on yourself like we've said.
I beg of you to accept this message from someone who has walked this path.

>>34220806
Anon you took the advice of someone trolling you.

>>34217845
Amazing edit.

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>>34220836
That was probably the best outcome. For both OP and his damsel in distress

>>34220851
The best outcome was for OP to spontaneously gain self awareness, but it was never going to happen.

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>>34220852
You know... only can only dream so much and so far...

>>34217717
No don't tell her how you feel. Especially via a letter. She will laugh at that shit. Post it online or even send it to her friend's for a giggle.

Show her you like her by being more flirty or whatever and amping it up a bit .

But it doesnt matter anyways, you're going to tell her and learn the hard way why you shouldn't have. Dw we all have done it. We have all been told the same advice but ignored it but I guess you have to see and learn for youself

You dont have friends or father or mother, in other words you are severely lonely and your brain is generating stories to protect you from the pain. This is not real love or approriate behavious. You have like medically severe loneliness that you need to treat for your own sake and others. Your lack of self awareness is a little bit scary. It is painful but you need to face your loneliness and proprely address it instead of using fantasies to cope. Its not healthy and you are escalating in a creepy way which is not okay. Face reality.

This is not real love, this is a medical condition caused by severe loneliness. This is not what love looks like. She is the subject of the stories your brain generates to soothe itself from pain. Its a normal response to severe loneliness but it's NOT okay. And i know that its an involuntary protective mechanism but you have to fight it and come back down to earth, face pain and reality and actually find real connection. Having no parents or friends is hard but this is not real and not good enough. You know it deep down.

This is very clearly delusional and she is undoubtedly scared and uncomfortable. You need to feel some shame and guilt. Flirt like a normal person in person and get rejected and face reality normally. Please.

Ground yourself in reality that you are making her uncomfortable and stop persisting with this cope

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>>34221078
What are you talking about? This is great

>>34217717
Based Don Quixote
Show up to her tomorrow wearing plate armor and sing her a ballad

>>34217717
what happened did she end up replying?

Update: still no reply... I saw her log onto steam and messaged her asking if she read the letter, but she went offline. My guess is that right now it's a lot to process and read, and that she's giving it some time, maybe plans on rereading it once or twice more, etc.. I'm positive given our ties/bond that she'll open up soon. Just got to give it some time.
>>34220833
I think I have plenty of self-awareness, actually. I recognize my flaws, but you don't understand how important it was for me to explain my feelings to her.
>>34220893
Letters help. I can't always articulate what I want to say in oral speech compared to written.
>>34221078
>>34221083
There's nothing I've seen that I've ever made her uncomfortable.

>>34217717
That photo, if real, is aids inducing

Wait........ I just realized you said YOU wrote that?
Boy that better stay in your drawer if it's real.
It's good for self reflection but not good for sending

I'll tell you why - don't care to read all of it, you're sexually and emotionally and everything-ly interested in her

You're pussy footing around your interest in her. You don't see it working out, you see yourself as not worthy for that, you idealized a human to the point of perfection, I promise you that a relationship with her is not as perfect as you imagine it, you don't just receive benefits, you have to deal with a whole other human. And girls depend on boys mostly, most of the time it's not the other way around. Therefore you're not ready for a relationship with her, you're not even going to have a relationship with her.


If I was you I'd put myself in a mindset that she's just one of MANY girls out there. And get to know other girls.
If I do hit her up I'll meet her IRL and say listen, I'm attracted to you. And I want to see if we can make something happen. I'd get rejected, probably not as hard IRL as I would on text, and I'd move on. I know it's easy for me to say, because you've known her since second grade and I assume you're at least in 7th grade by now, but yeah dude it's over and it hasn't even started yet. Don't lower your head to anyone, especially not girls. I mean it. Your life will be much worse if you suck up to others and put them on a pedestal. Her poop stinks like anyone else's, as much as you'd like to eat it.
Stop.
It's unhealthy.
Find other girls to get excited about.

>>34217717
Holy shit that is, no lie, the worst thing I've ever read. Are you 11 years old? Because if you're older than that, there's no excuse for such terrible grammar. I could barely understand half of the sentences.

From what I could understand, your letter is remarkably selfish and self centered while it's obvious you're trying to make it about her. When you truly love someone, you think about their needs, not your own. You want to protect her and be a knight? Sounds like a fucking self serving fantasy to me. She's not an object to be won or possessed.

Like, holy shit, dude. Just tell her you like her and don't try to make it into this grand thing. It's never going to be like that. Real life isn't like a fairy tale.

>>34221161
Well... You sent it. Shit. I should have read that before I sent all of this >>34221162


But my advice still applies brotherman, you have to find other girls to get excited about. Oneitis will kill you

>>34221170
Also let me add my experience:
Had oneitis for 7 ((seven)) long, painful, excruciating, horrible, killing, saddening, agonizing years. Told her in one afternoon after school was over for good, instantly felt better, wished I did it earlier.

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>>34221161
>There's nothing I've seen that I've ever made her uncomfortable.
You really outdid yourself this time.
>I think I have plenty of self-awareness
Oh anon... Anon...
>>34221173
Don't worry, from your letter we're very aware of your mental state. You made your feelings and headspace crystal clear.

>>34217717
Cringe. Lol. Please screenshot her reply and post it here.

>>34217717
Give it to her, bro. It's perfect. Update us later on her reaction.

you are so fucking pathetic

Just wow. Pathetic

You can dance around and schizo talk to yourself all night.

It doesn't change your fucking pathetic in every post year that you made in all these threads it's really fucking pathetic.

I bought them trashed tied turd level pathetic.

The fact that you made all of these posts shows how obsessive you are. You make so many more posts a day about me than I do you.

Look in a fucking mirror.

Who are the one in a constant delusion because of the pain of the loss of me, you are in so much pain that is why you do this. I really should just leave you to it huh. To feel the rot

>>34217717
So, when's the school shooting going to happen after she rejects you and files for a restraining order?

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>>34221307
>autism + violent fantasies + uncanny obsession
Bro is on a watch list now

>>34217717
For anyone who found in tl;dr, some of the most supreme lines:

>if it ever came to taking a million bullets… I’d do it all over again until you’re out of harm’s way because you’re my kingdom’s queen
>I’d put ya in me arms, hold you close for comfort, play with your hair (cus I dont giva fuck)
>I will always make sure guys arn’t trying to fuck you and be disrespectful, because I will cut them up into little pieces and piss on there graves
>I’m gonna be straight up, I wanna cuddle you bitch okay?
>I just get nervous to ask, so if your down for a wholesome fucking cuddle hit me up b hahah seriosuly tho, it wouldn’t be weird
>when you told me what your dad did when you were younger, I wanted to break his jaw
>I would just do anything/everything for you bitch
>I was worried he had done something to you (rape)
>no matter how big and bulky they could be, I’d still take you on with everything I got, your majesty :)
>complimenting eachother’s looks (well mostly just me because your a fucking bitch) I mean cmon we are fucking sexy
>if you ever are feeling suicidal or in any fucked up head space, look at that ring [OP gave her]
>I’m fully comfortable with you, I can pick my nose, itch my ass, fart look unatttractive and do all these weird fucking things and have it be a laugh with you
>not once in my time when I liked you did I see you in a sexual way
>I’m sorry for flirting with you too, that was disgusting

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>>34221506
For the anons who struggle with reading long texts - please, for the love of all that's holy - read this in its entirety. You won't regret it.

This is some good shit. You don't see stuff like this everyday.

I need to congratulate OP for such eloquence, creativity and expressionism
Bless your autism.

>>34221519
Lol. Maybe OP is just young and dumb.

I wish there was an /adv/ hall of fame

>>34217717
>I've been best friends with this girl for years, literally since we were in 2nd grade
But then you say
>I have never once in the 2 years of knowing you, talked shit behind your back
Are you in 4th grade?

>>34221602
Judging by the misuse of "your" and "you're"
Could very well be the case

>>34217717
The masculine impulse to send girls a short text of about 5000 words, sprinkled with clipart and tumblr drawings of knights defending their fair maidens, detailing how you're in love with her and not once ever found her sexually attractive

I hope she at least gives OP some closure because it's going to take him years to figure out what happened otherwise

>>34221620
while calling her a bitch repeated times

>>34221544
this is up there

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>>34221602
If this is the writing of a 9 year old, that is indeed impressive.
The sentences are way too long though.
>>34221620
I laughed when one of the images still had the transparency layer in the forefront

>>34221602
A 4th grader who goes to the bar?
I did notice that too though, I wonder what's up with that. I hope it's a troll.

>>34217717
You don't start relationships with things like this. Tell her that you like her more than a friend and want to explore that, ask if it's mutual.
I gotta imagine if you've been in each other's lives this long that she would have been sending signals to you to make it obvious she's into you (closeness, touching, flirting, etc). If there's none of this then you're better off not trying.
I can't be assed to read what you've written here, but on length alone I wouldn't send it.
>>34217845
Sarah doing god's work here. DONT SEND THIS LETTER.

>>34221673
Too late. He already sent it and (predictably) she's ghosting him.
Take a (not so) wild guess of what's gonna happen next.

any updates yet?? has she replied

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>>34221161
I'm on the edge of my seat. Please OP, give us more updates.

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Where did OP go?
To find a tall building?

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>>34222113
He's going to break the jaws of that tall building while protecting m'lady

I like how OP asks for advice, ignores the advice, and now has possibly died of embarrassment.
Please come back OP we need to know what happened.

>>34217845
The absolutely heroic effort applied here, totally ignored by OP, is the highlight of the thread. Hard not to feel bad for the guy, but God damn if this thread didn't try to help.

HAHAAHAHA bumping this shit for opie's final message

>>34217845
Based hole

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Did any new suicide threads pop up?

Update (not so much?)- she's still processing things I wager.. basically she hasn't messaged outright. She still hasn't logged back onto steam, though she has a favorite game she plays every day, so I'm going to see if her played time count goes up. At least then I'll know if she's offline or actually not logging in at all.. I hope it's that she's just offline, a part of me thinks she might have got injured. I do know her address (sent her some gifts last year) so I can always check in on her if needed.
>>34221684
I don't think she's ghosted me. We have too much history together for that.
>>34221602
Just a mistake. I was pretty emotional while I wrote it, and I noticed afew spelling mistakes when I reread it after sending it.
>>34221307
I'm not violent, though I'd consider myself extremely protective/defensive.

>>34222530
thx luv

Yes, she is definitely processing it OP. Very soon it will all click in her head and she will fall in love with you (non-sexually of course).

>>34221666
OP seems to be Bri’ish, so not sure how their school system works. Maybe it’s 2nd grade of high school to 4th grade?

>>34222530
>I don't think she's ghosted me. We have too much history together for that.
You’re right, but the sheer magnitude of your message means she can’t just reply with “sorry but no,” she has to also draft a long text and figure out how to let you down easy when she now knows you’re capable of something as unhinged as the OP letter.

>>34222840
This makes sense. It took me a long time to gather up the strength to put my thoughts down on paper and also to send it to her, so it might equally take a long time for her to respond. I can be patient for her.

>>34222862
Hope it works out for you.

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>>34222530
The saga continues! And unfortunately today's episode was filler.
I'm excited for the next chapter, keep us posted and good luck anon!

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>>34221519
Oh my fucking god. It's so much worse than I assumed.

>>34221161
>There's nothing I've seen that I've ever made her uncomfortable.
Your letter made her uncomfortable. She's avoiding you now cause you freaked her out lmao.

>>34223799
Don't worry, he's got plenty of self awareness

Go to her house at 3 AM with a mariachi band and read the letter to her.
I guaranfuckingtee you she will be yours from that moment on.

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>>34223847
I was going to say Blink 182 would be more of his vibe. However, their songs are actually sweet and naïve. This guy idea of naivetèe is asking to "fucking cuddle".

Also, he's no Tom DeLonge and we are way, way past the emo prime and mall goth days. Tsc.

>>34222530
>I do know her address (sent her some gifts last year)
Wait, have you not met this girl in real life? I thought you were childhood friends or neighbors or something. Don't tell us that this is an Online Relationship.

>>34223947
OP literally talks about getting jealous of seeing her cuddle with other people when they'd hang out. Knowing her IRL wouldn't stop OP from knowing where she lives and sending her chunks of his hair.

>>34223947
>>34223954
the plot thickens

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My god, this is like an instant soap opera. Except more autistic and the audience is retarded

I love it.

>>34223980
>Second reply carefully decontructs the "love" letter
Why are you calling us retarded anon? :/

>>34217717
You should gas yourself for posting this insanely cringe shit

>>34224045
Hey, don't worry. I'm also a retard. Don't take anything i say seriously. I love you all. This is truly a joyful moment

>>34217845
> OP posts the most unhinged shit I have ever seen here, way too deranged to be bait, the kind of stuff that would have made history if posted 10 years ago
> Second answer is, against all odds, high effort, benevolent but no bullshit, great advice
> OP does not even acknowledge the answer

/adv/ core

>>34221519
>not once in my time when I liked you did I see you in a sexual way
General insanity aside, it's pretty funny you'd think a girl would appreciate being said that

>>34224085
Advice isn't about advice - it's about creating real-life fanfics/larp and discussing it in a thread.

Have you ever wondered why this board has substantially more women? They love that shit. Gossiping is fun.
On rare cases, we get truly amazing stuff like this. Not all fanfics are created equal. This one stands out. Hall of fame everybody.

>>34224122
But I want to believe

>>34224129
believe deez nuts

>>34224137
Nigga got got

Update (nondate): Still no reply... A growing part of me really wants to reach out and check in on her, visit her in person, see if she's okay. I'm thinking I'll do that if I haven't heard a reply by this weekend. I think seeing me would make her feel all the rush of emotions again.
>>34224085
It ripped apart my letter and shit all over it as a meme. Trolls don't get replies.

>>34224928
How old are you and her, OP?

>>34224928
I think that was a genuine attempt at helping you.

>>34224928
>I think seeing me would make her feel all the rush of emotions again.
That’s not how it works, OP. Believe me when I say, anything your instinct tells you to do will make it worse. If she asked you out with an unhinged letter, would you say yes? Yes, you would immediately, because you like her. If she likes you, she would also have said yes immediately. If she doesn’t, she might need time to concoct a reply. Keep waiting, YOU WILL ONLY MAKE IT WORSE by intervening further

>>34224928
No one is trying to troll you, they're trying to tell you how your letter comes off to other people. It really does come off that unhinged and not what any girl would want to hear.
The ones who told you to go for it are being sarcastic/trolling you.
Take the post that you said "ultimately this is what I decided to do" at:
>>34218162
Everything in that post references memes. It is not a serious post.

I'm not telling you this to mean. I want you to prepare you for the possibility that she will reject you. It is better if you start coming to terms with that now. It seems everything you've posted so far, you think everything is going to be okay. I hope I'm wrong. I don't want your reality to shatter suddenly.

If you don't take anything else from my post, could you please at least *consider* the *possibility* that she reads the letter and doesn't want a relationship with you? What that would be like, and how you could move on from it? Just as a thought exercise.

>>34224928
get off this site youre obviously like 14 if youve gotten this far and you seriously arent baiting

>>34224928
>A growing part of me really wants to reach out and check in on her, visit her in person, see if she's okay
You can try. I did it once. Of course I was served with a restraining order l, but we got back together 10 years later. Love can’t be restrained.

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>>34217717
This deserves a dramatic reading. Certainly a bonafide Yiddish Cup. OP is about as decoupled from reality as a person can be without the use of hard drugs. This was written by an imbecile for someone who clearly has been strining him along just to be nice. To guess, I'd wager she is embarrassed by OP but knows he's a mouth breathing loser of the highest echelon, and can't bring herself to cut the chord. Shit also reads like a maniac's manifesto. I can easily picture OP attempting to mail Lou an acid bomb before offing himself in the nude. Only tweens write drivel like what's spewed out on the page here. There is 0% chance the girl, Lou, because OP is a fucking retard and didn't REDACT her fucking name, reads even half of this self indulgent mockery to human connection. Lesser chance she doesn't get so uncomfortable that is pushes her to ghost him for months until his insecurities goad her into finally laying into the creep. This will ultimately be her undoing, as OP likely needs to be medicated and studied, and wjll turn obsession into retribution.

>>34217845
This anon saved OP from being in a moistcrit1cal video
Jesus fuck what did l just read, Anon you are too kind for OP to just ignore
Put me in the screencap

>>34224928
Anon I think you made a big mistake here: telling her all these very important things through a digital letter. These kinds of emotions are difficult to communicate unless you are here in person. This is probably why she doesn't answer: the letter is very long, and reading it must be so emotional for her she cannot finish it or process it correct to give you a coherent answer.

My advice is to print this letter, buy a large bunch of flowers, and go meet her, preferably not in a public place (ideally by her place so she can offer you to get inside and you two can have some privacy). Good luck, I believe in you. You are a very honest, open, and emotional person, and women are very receptive to that.

>>34226317
This is also troll advice, OP

>>34226327
yes of course everyone that think OP did not do everything wrong are troll. also probably you need to be at least a little mysoginistic to post here. got it.

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>>34226327
>>34226342
I don't think it's that complicated: the "trolls" are the ones who doesn't agree with him.

I'm genuinely impressed with the commitment to this creative writing project they don't often make em like this any more. You're a true artist OP.

>>34226327
This might be troll but this is unironically good advice. OP currently does not know what the girl is thinking and this is a source of great pain to him. If he confronts her IRL he will know.

>>34217717
I love you OP, this reminds me of golden era CWC

>>34226368
OP won't be able to comprehend her reactions even if he goes to her IRL in his current state of mind. If she reacts negatively he will interpret it a different way, or he will not even register it, or it will break him. He is full delusional.
He is saying she might not be replying because she's hurt, I don't think he is capable of understanding that she could be reacting negatively right now.
Yes talking to her is a good idea but he needs to fix his broken perception. I wish I knew how. I have been this delusional before and it took years to go away, no one helped me.

>>34226400
>>34226327
>>34226317
>>34217717
>>34224928

We cannot fix OP, and OP thinks he's in the right ans won't fix himself. The only think we can hope for is for him to have his confidence broken by reality so he learns from it. Confronting this girl IRL in the most genuine way he can is the only thing that can knock some sense into him, the most funny shit he can do for us, and, I'm sure, what he wants to do.

OP: do it.

I wish OP were honest enough to admit he was wrong with a reply to this thread. He probably won’t, though, and we will left to picture plausible outcomes. Just know this, anons, every story, similar as it can seem to your personal experience, is influenced by is very specific context, so don’t delude yourselves that you know exactly what happened. Surely she was creeped out: but how much? Did she expect it? Is the pity she feels for him stronger than her disgust? Or does that letter go beyond her worse fears and now she is so appalled and resourceless that she genuinely doesn’t know what to do? Will she try to reason with him or has he scared her for good now? But most importantly: did she have sex with that guy in the bar’s toilet or did she simply give him a bj?

>>34226407
Reading this thread made me realize i'm a bit like OP. Not as autistic of course, but in the way that I think women will be touched if I am genuine and vulnerable with them. In my experience, the best answer you'll get when being vulnerable with a women you have a romantic interest in is silence. It's tough but a valuable life lesson.

>>34226405
I know we can't fix OP but this shit triggers me man, I was like this but not as bad. Ultimately I know that anyone this delusional has to go through it and learn for themselves but I have to try. It's a curse on both of us not to get through. You're right he needs to talk to her but I'm hesitant to push it, because that might encourage OP to push it. Let them talk when they talk.

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>>34226397
We are witnessing something great here...

>>34226413
Sure but the situation here is different under many different aspects: they knew each other for a long time, he is extremely delusional, possibly she enjoyed making him jealous, maybe she even was excited by having sex behind his back, or she simply couldn’t get rid of him when she spent time with the guy she was dating (who knows how really pitiful she was) etc…

>>34226423
This situation is of course insane and I was never in something that bad, but I can draw parallels to my own life and it feels like what happened to me was of same nature even if less crazy. This woman I was in a relationship with was OBVIOUSLY not attracted to me in all her actions (never seeming to enjoy herself in bed, never setting time aside for sex, never mentioning anything sexual unless I was initiating). And every time I would openly discuss this and how it made me feel, it would appear to me as if she was listening and trying to change something (she would tell me she understand and my feelings are valid etc). But then, she would never change or mention the points I brought up again. Many times I opened myself a little bit more, believing that if she understood how I felt she would be empathetic and work with me. It took me some time to understand that no answer is the answer: my feelings didn't matter to her.

And I think i'm not the only man who believed that opening up and explaining my feelings was a good way to create a connexion. But in reality, I was as deluded as OP: this was too much, she didn't care, and I should have logically assessed what was in front of my eyes.

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>>34226452
You're almost having a breakthrough about why lolcows feel so compelling - we see something in them that's embarrasing and we sympathize with them. Because we're had/known that experience and we're screaming "don't do that!". Also, we are perpetually terrified that a couple of slip ups might make us lolcows/bullying targets. It's social death/criticality.

Ok, i'm thinking too much about this... It's just a dumb little theory.

>>34226407
Find out on the next exciting episode of cringe lord Z!!!

>>34217717
>>34217845
>>34223980
>>34226367
Amazing thread. OP is either one of the most autistic posters on all of 4chan, or he's a genius trolling us. Either way, I want to see how this plays out.

>>34226911
I wont be even mad if he's trolling - this is fucking great

We desperately need an update from OP.

>>34226923
Agreed. This level of effort, if put into entertaining us, is still very laudable. But I'm in an X-files mood, I want to believe. It's just so GOOD

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>>34227009
This is already reality im head. I am too invested to let go of this

>>34226911
he is definitely autistic and doing this for real because i had to dig realllly deep to find wtf is the character he mentions from

Update (not much of one)- still no contact from her.... I've skimmed the replies here and think that the best course of action would be to visit her. Her mom likes me and will let me into their house even if she is not home. I did like the idea to print out the letter and go over it with her if she had any questions, because yeah.... this many pages is a LOT for someone to process. Even if it doesn't work, I need to make sure. If I just gave up now, I would regret it for the rest of my life. Our friendship/connection is worth giving it another try. There are a thousand possibilities of why she hasn't responded or talked to me yet.
>>34224942
I'm 21. I would rather not disclose her age because I do not want to dox her.

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>>34228615
>I'm 21. I would rather not disclose her age
>the best course of action would be to visit her
there is no way this isn't a troll

>>34228615
When are you thinking about going to see her?

>>34228615
You're really milking this, huh?
When's the "big reveal" where you tell us that you were trolling all along?

>>34228660
If she hasn't responded by tomorrow, then tomorrow it will be.

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>>34228615
>Her mom likes me and will let me into their house even if she is not home.
NO BETTY DON'T OPEN THAT DOOR!!!!

I’m starting to think he’s trolling us ;(

>>34228615
>I've skimmed the replies here and think that the best course of action would be to visit her.

Dear God.

>>34229249
OP's gonna get shot up by her father on their front porch.

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>>34229249
>These fuckers are making fun of me. I'll show them who i really am. I'll show them i'll succeed. I'll show them who's the best. I'll show them I'll prevail against all odds.

>>34228684
Based.

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The thread so far...
It's too much bros... my heart can't take this
I genuinely wish the best for OP. You are amazing. And if i knew you in real life, i'd give you warm hug. <3

>>34228615
> Her mom likes me and will let me into their house even if she is not home.
Ok this is too much even for me, OP you had a good run but I cannot believe this is real anymore. Regardless, thanks for everything.

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>>34229514
Forgot picrel.

>>34221162
>Find other girls to get excited about.
In this age? Fuck no, There are no ones worth it.

This is literally Chris-Chan type shit, Finally quality thread on 4chan after a long drought.

But seriously OP, For God's sake, I don't know if you're autistic or not, But please for God's sake just move on, You're either gonna fucking ruin your whole life fixating on one person who's not gonna even acknowledge you romantically or You're gonna end up doing some fucked up shit.

Just move on and learn your lesson, She IS NOT FUCKING PROCESSING YOUR LETTER, SHE HAS FUCKING GHOSTED YOU AND SHE DOES NOT KNOW HOW TO REPLY TO YOU WITHOUT TELLING YOU THAT YOU FUCKING SCARED HER

Dude People in this thread are mocking you literally, And they want you to sink down the rabbit hole, You fucked up and you have to own your fault by moving on and realizing that you're not in the 17th century where you can write letters like this and look like Don Quixote, You literally look like a psychopath in the most cringe way, If you ever go to her house, You're gonna get fucked massively and get humiliated.

I want to know seriously if you're actually good looking and then i think maybe you have a chance, But if you're just friends and she's bearing with you then it's over

>>34229505
kek

>>34229569
You missed the whole point of Don Quixote. Literature is not your thing, is it

Btw, this psycho probably thinks he’s something of an Adonis (good looking) or that he can improve (by imitating some anime probably): don’t tell him that this is all it takes…

>>34229569
> Not realizing that Don Quixote here is literally >>(You) #

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OP, I thought I was unredeemable and then I found this legendary thread. OP, she will probably put a restrict order on your ass and you 100% need it to grow. >Feels good to find a good 4chan thread in the wild.

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>>34229505
The dichotomy of man

>>34229569
It's not possible to get through to OP, give it up

>>34229666
>if you're actually good looking and then i think maybe you have a chance
My female friend said the same thing when I showed this to her. Praying that OP is a hot autist. Maybe try the strong-but-silent type if you are from now on though OP.

>>34229622
Still haven't read Don Quixote, I want to read it but too lazy, He reminds me of some retard written by Dostoevsky

>>34229677
>if you're actually good looking and then i think maybe you have a chance
Translating for you: if she was interested enough in him already she wouldn't care he's a schizo

This is not news for anyone who has any experience with relationships but not helpful for OP i'm afraid

>>34229692
Yeah, the only real death sentence if you're attractive is if you're boring and incredibly insecure/not confident.
OP has lots of confidence and is not boring so he's got that going for him.

>>34229698
>OP has lots of confidence and is not boring so he's got that going for him.
We haven't seen the perspective from Op's friend, Trust me a lot of people talk like this and make you believe that the other person also indugles with their narrative

Especially that OP actually has wrote all of that shit, Certainly HE thinks that she will also receive him and thinks that she likes him.

I believe objectively that the Girl is not that much interested and is just a friend and not actually vaguely interested even if she knew him from the 2nd grade.

So either OP has fucked up by reading wrong signals and thinking that she wants him or Pray that he's handsome so he does not fuck up his life

Update (finally something worth mentioning): okay, long story short I went over to her house and things didn't go as planned. I went over super early with the letter printed out and waited until her dad left and knocked. Her mom answered, everything went fine.. asked if she was home, yes, perfect.... sat on the couch, got ready for her to come down so I could explain shit... and she didn't even let me. She just got really fucking mad and screamed a bunch of shit at me. I don't really remember this part, but I do specifically remember her saying I was stalking her, which was ridiculous as fuck and I immediately told her that wasn't true... probably was louder than I meant to be. That's when I was asked to leave... I still had the letter though, so I left in the mailbox.
>What now
She's clearly upset that I went over unannounced, which I can understand. Next time I'll text her. I'm thinking about leaving it for a few days and just seeing whether she reaches out to me. Ultimately I don't think she meant everything she said, she was angry and in the moment and people say things when they're angry.
>>34229350
Appreciate the support. What's funny is that I have seen myself as a little like a fighter fighting uphill. But you can't just stop fighting once things get hard.

>>34229757
>so I could explain shit
Don't you think you've explained enough? You laid out absolutely everything in your letter. It's on her to reply now.
OP, you've said that you've been through a lot together and you're close and she'll realize that and accept your letter. You need to let that happen now.
She clearly wants to be left alone for a while and process things and the best way to convince her that you're NOT stalking her is to let her reply first.
A few days is NOT ENOUGH. Imagine if you think you have a stalker. What is going to convince you that they're not actually stalking you? Three days of no contact? Four?
No OP, even though it's hard, you have to show her that you respect her wishes and that you're not a stalker by letting her reply first no matter what. Let her process, please.

>>34229757
> I'm thinking about leaving it for a few days and just seeing whether she reaches out to me. Ultimately I don't think she meant everything she said, she was angry and in the moment and people say things when they're angry.
Send her a text and saying you’re sorry and that you didn’t mean to cause any harm and you really love her, but then leave it at that. She’ll reach out when she’s ready.
>t. ex restraining order haver

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I called that OP was so delusional he wouldn't be able to process anything she said. I hate that all I can do is sit back and watch this train wreck but we're all learning more about things we can't change.

>>34229803
I do agree that if you send her a text it should be something like this, just an apology and not trying to explain anything, but I still think you should wait a while OP.
You don't want to do anything that can make her think you're any more of a stalker, and that means you need to show her you can give her space.
>t. never had a restraining order

>>34229757
>I still had the letter though, so I left in the mailbox.
Phahahahahaahha. Absolutely convincing move that you're NOT a stalker.

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>>34229757
I'm so sorry man...
You tried. That was a good effort champ.

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>>34229757
>She's clearly upset that I went over unannounced, which I can understand. Next time I'll text her. I'm thinking about leaving it for a few days and just seeing whether she reaches out to me. Ultimately I don't think she meant everything she said, she was angry and in the moment and people say things when they're angry.

It's over

>>34229569
inb4, read this, he's right

>>34229806
I don't fucking understand why this fucking retard refuses to hear any advice here, SERIOUSLY!

Like what the fuck! It's better to just leave this thread and let it be

>>34229757
OK!

If I was in the position of your friend, AND I fucking was processing a heavy load of letter by someone I knew intimately for a lot of years, Seriously, I'll fucking just want to disappear and not even reply or say anything

BUT you fucking literally, And I mean literally, swarm in her place and fucking force your presence on her and force her to answer you while she's trying to get away from you and process what just happened

Nah nigga it's like scratching a wound with alcohol thinking it'll ease it up

>>34229855
That's delusion for you. OP has his own reality. His brain is protecting him from anything that would shatter his reality and cause him pain.
That's why he didn't pick up anything she was saying when he was yelling at him. That's why he has bizarre interpretations of things, like getting trolls and people giving him real advice switched around. That's why OP hasn't even shown a hint of being able to consider the possibility that she might react negatively to the letter.

>>34229865
This vaguely reminds me of Chris-Chan with his first friend, Maybe this is another case of Autism.
>I have seen myself as a little like a fighter fighting uphill.
I mean when someone says shit like this, He's definitely deep within his imagination and thinks he is some sort of MC in an anime that's on episode 10 and has 2 episodes left where the last episodes is where he's gonna get the girl.

Anime really ruined people

>>34229878
Nah, I was nearly this delusional before and I never watched anime. It's just mental illness.

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>>34229806
We all saw the train coming from 10,000 miles away. Yet, OP, with his steadfast determination, unshakeable faith and utmost mental fortitude, tried to stop the train with his bare hands...

...With all odds against him, we all witnessed a tragedy on this very day. A fallen knight buried below the tracks. Our hero, once 1,000 man strong, now bested by a 1,000 tons of steel.

Fallen hero, may you now rest in peace. This day we all grieve for you. May you find solace in your eternal slumber.

Thank you all for coming.
God bless all of you.

Here's what's going to happen now OP. You're never going to be friends with her again. You're going to take years to process this. You're going to try and contact her less and less.
One day, thoughts are going to come flooding back to you about this, and probably lots of other things, and you'll be incredibly embarrassed. You will wonder how you could have ever acted like this. It will be like you were just born again, you'll see everything in a new light. You will have gained self awareness.
Then one day, you will come across a young man, doing everything wrong and saying strange and frightening things. You will want to try and stop him. You can't stop him, don't try.

>>34229909
The fucking cycle is real

>>34229683
But weren’t you taught in school what the main theme of the book is?

>>34229916
Old men are cursed never to be heard, young men cursed never to listen to them

>>34229909
You don’t know if that’s true. It’s not over for OP unless he keeps begging her until she threatens to call the police, and even then, she still might come back. It’s happened to me before. If she has any romantic feelings towards him, she’ll come back and they’ll live happily ever after in love forever.

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>>34229938
>they’ll live happily ever after in love forever.

>>34229569
He does come off like Don Quixote but not in the good way

anon this is amazing, hope she loves ya

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>>34229865
I sincerely hope that OP is trolling us…
the alternative is just too sad for me to bear.
Pic related

>>34229921
https://youtu.be/Igbd3EEOHIs