Sorry that happened to you. Yes most guys will try to get you to fuck. I’m glad I saved myself for another virgin

Fuck it cut me off read this first
Met this guy at a club and he took care of me with his friends while i was blacked out and asked for my number. We talked for a while, went to a bar and i got to meet more of his friends. He’s 24, good job, educated, attractive not at first but he really liked me so i got into him. He texted me so often and constantly called me pretty. He had a thing for tooth gaps, said i looked like Margaret Qualley. He also had a thing for feet which he got pushy with wanting to see mine even said he’d pay for a manicure but i denied cause i don’t like using men like that and knowing me i would’ve just gotten a game or something with it. After the bar we went back to his and fucked. He knew i was a virgin(i told him drunkenly) he didn’t wanna put it in me. NOW READ THE REST SORRY

>>34411283
Definitely smart. I’m not killing myself over this just don’t want it to happen again. It felt like when a kid wants a puppy, gets it and looses all interest.

>>34411275
>Was i an idiot for giving in like that?
I don't know. Did you enjoy it enough to make it worth doing, even though it was going to be a one-off? If so, you weren't an idiot.

>Is this what guys do?
Yes.

>He was the one going after me at first. Do men really loose interest after getting what they wanted?
Yes.

>Was i too easy??
Again, if you enjoyed it enough that you feel like it was worth doing, that's fine. If you're now feeling used and miserable then clearly you did the wrong thing.

>Even when i have denied giving guys head they loose interest after so it’s always a lose.
Correct.

>Kinda long sorry just want a real answer and some help i don’t wanna do this again if i’m gonna be left in the dust.
Then you clearly did the wrong thing this time round.

>Should i message him?
No.

>or is that wrong?
It's not wrong, it's just pointless and a bit pathetic. You know perfectly well he's not going to reply.

>>34411275
You should of saved it for someone who loved you

laughing at alcohol cucks
enjoy your permanent alcohol induced brain damage AND the loss of your v-card

>>34411275
>Was i an idiot for giving in like that?
Yes, but more importantly, you're now a whore, and it's harder for you to credibly do anything else.
>so it’s always a lose
Filtering out sex pests isn't a loss.

>>34411358
Thanks for saying it’d be pathetic, needed to hear that. I don’t regret it too much, it’s more what happened after. Should’ve thought more about it. Why do men do this though. I don’t think all are like this but a lot of them are. How does one know he’s being genuine?

>>34411275
I mean you got drunk and fucked a guy from a club. If you were expecting roses you should have taken the hard road like the rest of us

>>34411399
Do you know what a whore is? I’m not stretched and used up buddy. Your perfect little virgin fairytale you fuck yourself too is taking dick right now. Hope your future wife has a pussy you can drive an 18 wheeler through.

>>34411547
seething alckie sloot

>>34411275
>Should i message him?
Do you genuinely enjoy being treated like a fuckhole that gets tossed aside? Or do you actually want a guy who will cuddle in bed after fucking you?

>>34411582
I should’ve said the reason i wanted to message him but id wanna ask what it was, if i did something wrong but men aren’t straight up sometimes and i don’t wanna seem desperate, like would wanna hear it from the horses mouth. So i could avoid this if it ever happens again. i obviously want the second part of your message lol im not a dumb whore. Just would be nice to get a valid reason and not use concern as an excuse. Like did you realize i was ugly? did you simply wanna fuck? like that but definitely not going to. Come to a realization i’ll look pathetic no matter what grr

>>34411542
Definitely wasn’t expecting to be given some flowers but at least answers. I asked him flat out what was wrong and he just got weird. If i’m some bitch from the club say the pussy was trash or something not that it was concerning i was wondering why he got so dry. Feel like it’s pretty normal to want to talk to the person you were talking to for a while and then slept with but idk men too well guess that isn’t their flow with some. Is this like a protection thing men do? oh i should just ghost her instead of telling her yeah i just wanted to nut?

>>34411521
>Why do men do this though.
Because they really, really, really want sex, and they're willing to do almost literally anything to obtain it. In some cases, there's a direct misogynist element too - they like lying to a woman and making her think it's going to be all sunshine and wedding bells and then dumping her after the first fuck to make her as miserable as possible. But in most cases I think they rationalise it by telling themselves that they need it so badly that the ends justify the means; and in others it's all about "the pursuit" and as soon as they actually catch someone they lose interest.

>I don’t think all are like this but a lot of them are. How does one know he’s being genuine?
Honestly, you never can for sure. I knew a guy some years ago who was one of the ones who actively enjoyed leading women on, then pumping and dumping them. He generally had half a dozen women on the go at once (not knowing about each other) and sometimes he would keep this up for more than a year; he was technically engaged to more than one girl at a time on several occasions. (Dumped each one after the first fuck). There's no way you can guard against someone who is that accomplished and dedicated a liar. Of course, in theory you could wait till after you're married; but that means you probably end up married to someone you aren't sexually compatible with. (Retarded incels will claim any two people can be compatible if there is enough consideration and communication; this is the kind of thing that sounds plausible when you've never actually had sex, but that you realise is wildly wrong once you've been with a few people).

All I can really say is: never have sex while drunk; never have sex unless it's what *you* want, and not merely what he wants; and trust your instincts. It's much easier for someone to deceive and confuse the logical part of your mind than the instinctive part; if something doesn't feel right, don't ignore that feeling.

>>34411275
You are a psyop to get me to engage with this website or to sway the opinion of guys who read the anti female posts. You are not real.
In case that you are real, yeah, you got a bit played, but it's okay, we all make mistakes, your heart is still in a pure place it seems, wait nevermind I just read you're "not looking for a relationship"
You're for the streets, and you deserve what happened to you

Another case of femoid fucking pump and dump chad. Tsk tsk tsk

>>34411275
>he ended up doing it without a condom.
Do make sure you have an STD test in a few weeks, won't you? It's unlikely you're the only woman he's done this with.

>>34412240
I would’ve wanted it to progress. At that time i wasn’t thinking this is gonna be my man. I would’ve wanted it to go somewhere, he was pretty cool, good job, had a lot of good people as friends. I’m not for the streets this definitely made me realize how much of a relationship person i really am. If i was a whore wouldn’t i be happy he ended up leaving me alone to move on to the next?

>>34411275
Try not to fuck players. It's the same as when a guy would go for a mid girl instead of a super hot girl since the hot ones are more likely to be blown out.

>>34412213
That’s so scary. As someone who’s straight up with everyone i can’t imagine doing that omg. Wish truth serum was a thing lol. Feel like i wouldn’t even find a man who’d want to wait for marriage they all move on so fast. I know i’m not terrible looking wish i wasn’t just fuckable, feels like that sometimes. And yes never having drunk sex again unless we are dating lol thank you for your reply, honestly you seem like a good guy thanks for not calling me a whore.

>>34412252
Yeah already went to a clinic. I don’t fuck with that no matter how dumb i may seem. Thank you!

Fucking whore.

>>34412629
>Feel like i wouldn’t even find a man who’d want to wait for marriage
Well you sure as hell won't now, amiright hahahaha!?!?

>>34411275
>Was i too easy??
even had you made him wait months or years soon as he got that pussy he will lose interest and run

I bet someone warned about having casual sex and losing your virginity and you probably called them an incel. What a messed up world we're living in.

You can still find a husband, but he will be a spineless one, without a shred of dignity, and you will forever compare him with other options you cannot obtain

>>34412834
Literally just came up with a scenario that never happened.

>>34411275
>Was i an idiot for giving in like that?
Nah. Happens to the best of us.
>Is this what guys do?
It's what shitty guys do.
>He was the one going after me at first. Do men really loose interest after getting what they wanted?
Anyone pushing that hard for sex that quickly (and feet stuff wtf lol) is going to dip the moment they get laid. They're broken men.
>Was i too easy??
You were definitely too drunk.
>Even when i have denied giving guys head they loose interest after so it’s always a lose.
This is concerning. Maybe consider sucking fewer dicks and fucking fewer guys.

>Should i message him? or is that wrong?
No, I don't think you should. He doesn't have any respect for you.
You should only message him if you want to be a body for some guy to use.
I'm a man myself fwiw.

>>34412897
>Literally just came up with a scenario that never happened.
It surely happened. These are the kinds of things that always happen with "modern women." They get warned about losing their virginity but they always ignore it, because those who warn them are "le bad", "incels." Not only that, they rather accept advices from other foids, which is the most stupid thing you can do, if there's something I learned is that women don't want to see other women doing good, and that misery loves company.

>>34412910
>Nah. Happens to the best of us.
it doesn't, the best of "you" marry as virgins in their early 20s.

>>Is this what guys do?
>It's what shitty guys do.
Cope.

>>Was i too easy??
>You were definitely too drunk.
Cope

>>34412910
Literal definition of misery loves company. I bet you're single, and no, fucking a guy doesn't count as relationship.

>>34412917
That's awesome, son.

>>34412919
>I bet you're single,
I am.
>and no, fucking a guy doesn't count as relationship.
I agree. Where did I imply otherwise?

Did neither of you guys get to the last line of my post?

>>34411275
The amount of investment you require from men is what they'll give you.
If you require commitment before sex, they'll commit. If you don't they won't.
>but they leave if I don't provide sex
Those guys just want to cum. They don't like you as a person. If they actually like spending time with you and make it clear that sex is available (only) at a later stage of the relationship, they will stick around.
Sexual liberation and the death of God put us all in a world of pointless suffering.
Men need to bag as many women as possible in order to have self esteem, and women think they need to offer sex early to keep a desirable man. Desirable men, however, have options and won't commit easily. This creates a scenario where most men get little to no sex, most women get pumped and dumped, and a few men have a lot of empty casual sex. Nobody is really happy, but that's what happens when we just do what our genitals tell us without considering second and third order effects.
Also this has nuked marriage and fertility rates, which will probably destroy most economic and government systems because they were built in a mileu of constant population growth.

>>34412944
>If they actually like spending time with you and make it clear that sex is available (only) at a later stage of the relationship, they will stick around.
Do you think that now she can ask her future husband to not have sex before marriage provided that she already gave her virginity to a random guy down the street?

>>34412972
She can ASK, but no worthwhile man is going to accept waiting for what other guys got right away. It's insulting and humiliating.
The amount of commitment a woman demands before sex is a measure of her value. I'd consider a woman who had three serious relationships a better marriage option than one who had a single one night stand. People always talk about body counts, but body commitment is important too.

>>34413004
I agree with you, I would rather marry a widow or a single mom that had sex inside a marriage than a woman that had one night stand, frankly.

>>34413004
You can never prove she's telling the truth. Women already know these things.

>>34412912
I agree with you on women wanting other women to be miserable but i’ve never called a man an incel for not liking causal sex. When i did talk to a guy who was the non causal type he went off on me for not travelling hours to go see him. Don’t think he wanted to have a playdate. It’s always something. I’ve never listened to bitches who get dick like that. My mistake was my own.

>>34411275
Was he also drunk?

>>34411275
There's a lot of femcels and incels in this thread. Don't take them seroiusly.

>>34413125
>My mistake was my own.
At least you can see that. I won't try to comfort you, you messed up. But what's done is done, it's better to realize now with a body count of 1 than with a body count of 10, 100, 200... Think about it, it's better to stay single than to submit yourself to these kinds of relationships that offer no value.

>>34412910
Thank you for replying and yeah he definitely doesn’t have any respect for me, i’m just someone who likes to know why things happen the way they do yk? maybe I did something wrong? I was definitely too drunk and it was my first time being taken home by a guy doesn’t really justify it though. Was bullied pretty bad growing up by boys, was always the ugly one so i’m new at dealing with male attention like this and not knowing how they are. i really don’t wanna be used but these guys are all on their slut journeys. After this experience considering abstinence until i know that a man truly cares for me. Never liked the idea of causal sex before that went out the ass cause of the drinks unfortunately.

Guys don't give a fuck if it's one guy. They didn't with me.

>>34411275
Yes you are a big dumb dumb, a lot of guys will hit it and quit it. We have a thing called dating, where man and woman can check if their potential partner is worthy of a relationship. Now I hope you learned something, don't just have sex without relationship since that is just begging for broken heart, STD and possible pregnancy. Oh and get tested for STDs since he didn't wrap it.

>>34413139
I don’t know about drunk. I’m like 5’5 he was taller so it might’ve affected him differently. He definitely had some sort of buzz.

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>>34411275
>I'm easy and I got used
yes?
>ended up doing it without a condom
lmao stupid whore
>wasn’t looking for a relationship
then what's the problem? you got pumped and dumped, such is life.

>>34411275
Lots of dudes brag about slaying Virgins. It's some dude's thing. Sorry you went through that, dumbass.

also
>losing your virginity with some random retard, while drunk
this has to be a /robot/ larping

>>34413149
Yeah honestly. I’m not gonna sit and cry, just needed to know if this is normal for men. i am happy i can realize this now unlike a lot of other girls that keep fucking the same guy and getting the same outcome. Just Hope one day i come across a good guy grr

>>34411521
>Why do men do this though.
because sex has been turned into a commodity rather than a bond.
Men need to jerk off or have sex otherwise life just becomes horrible, everything becomes more stressful, it's a biological need.
A lot of men can't get in long term relationships to get consistent sex (society issue)
so they just go after 1 night stand type things.

>how does one know he's being genuine
By not meeting him on dating apps. You need to realize that social media and dating apps are glorified sex-attraction, if you want real genuine bonds you need to have hobbies and form connections with men in those hobbies so you have common grounds to bond over.
If you meet people through community they'll probably not be so fast moving and if you say "not right now" or "lets go slower" you'll find they're more understanding, that's how you can at least kinda get some genuine interest going.

What do you even want out of >>34411275
>this
OP? a relationship? quick sex? just to feel good? You had sex while drunk and now realized that it wasn't a good idea, you made a mistake and that's fine, one mistake in life often doesn't define us. Just try to be better. In my opinion sex is something important and shouldn't just be like "oooo i want my hole/shaft to feel good ngngggnnnn"

>>34413043
Yeah asymmetric information is a bitch. There's heuristics like "double or triple whatever she says her bodycount is", but those aren't perfect solutions.
At the end of the day a lot of inexperienced dudes are going to be settling with women who went through a "slut phase".
Free and easy sex whenever you want is just too good of an opportunity for women and chads to pass up. Unless a girl comes from a strongly religious family or you marry your high-school sweetheart, you're going to have to accept that your woman got used and thrown away at some point. Maybe a small percentage of women will learn and grow from that experience, but most women operate in a zero accountability environment, so they'll either pretend it never happened or put 100% of the blame on men.
In ~60 years since the pill and ~12 years of dating apps the sexual marketplace reached an equilibrium that just manufactures suffering for men and women.
The silver lining is that younger zoomers, both men and women, are reporting lower rates of sex. There's also growing sentiment against the use of dating apps by both men and women, although they remain the way that most relationships start in part due to general lack of friction and culture discouraging flirting and dating with people you know professionally and socially.
Society is slowly starting to heal, but for Zillennials like myself at marriage age, finding a woman who has been able to avoid infinite and instantaneous free male attention and chad cock available at her fingertips 24/7 is challenging.
It's like you gave a bunch of toddlers unlimited free candy whenever they want, and you have to find one that didn't get fat.

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>>34413248
Just don't get married lol. Even if you marry a virgin, the satisfaction rate is 50%. This is just how you get financially and emotionally ruined for no reason.

>>34413213
I am a dumbass lmao not gonna blame him i should’ve been smarter i didn’t even know i told him i was a virgin until he mentioned it days later. He didn’t get weird just asked if it was true. The one time i don’t have any gut feelings right.

>>34412213
>wedding bells
I don't think there's one guy on Earth that cares if you fucked when you're engaged. This is a completely different situation.

>>34411521
>Why do men do this though
because a girl broke his heart

>>34413152
You're welcome. I learned the hard way that casual sex isn't for me either.
I don't think it's very healthy for most people, frankly.

>>34412629
>thanks for not calling me a whore
Sure. I'm not exactly 4chan's core demographic, I guess: I'm old and liberal/left.

It is difficult finding someone you can trust. And unfortunately relationships depend on trust: sooner or later you have to choose to trust the other person, and if you don't or can't, it's not going to work out. But it's in the nature of trust that it can be, and sometimes is, betrayed. If you could be 100% sure you can trust someone, you wouldn't need to trust them.

So, naturally, there's a balance to be struck: don't be naive, but at the same time don't be incurably cynical.

Unlike most of the incels around here, I'm not going to give you a hard time about wanting or enjoying sex. If you'd come on here and said "I had sex and I loved it and I'm going to have more!" I would just have smiled quietly to myself and said "Ah, yes, I remember being young!" So, in so far as there's a problem with your behaviour, here, the issue is not that you had sex, it's that having it made you unhappy - and also that it was a little reckless (in the sense that having unprotected sex with someone you don't know very well is risky - pregnancy, STDs, etc.)

So I guess that brings us back around to: if you're going to have sex, have it on your own terms. Decide what you want, and with whom, and then pursue that; don't expect the universe to make it happen for you. And don't do things that compromise your judgement or your ability to stay in control of a situation (e.g. drinking).

Best of luck to you!

I was an incel before incels existed as a concept
I called women sluts but I was simply jealous they weren't fucking me even though I never put myself out there.
After I had sex my entire worldview changed and now I love perverted women and can't stand prudes.
These boys are just lashing out in frustration. Don't take it personally.

>>34413430
>living a life of hedonism is in fact bad
true

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>>34413239
>sex is important
It's literally not. All 10 billion of our parents had sex. Fat trailer trash are having sex. The only people who think this are people who haven't had sex.
Society has just made sex some taboo thing because of religion and to protect the kids. So now everyone feels like it's some dirty thing despite it being a basic biological need when it's the absolute most normal thing in the world.

>>34413623
my point isn't that it's some 'dirty thing' I think it's just more important than slam shaft in hole and feel good. We're a little more than just basic animals and the emotional connections that come with the shit load of chemicals that are produced during sex isn't discountable.

>>34413631
fair enough

>>34413210
kek, based truther telling it like it is

>>34413602
Yeah, you can definitely tell which ones have real experiences + advice and which ones just wanna call me a whore for letting one dick in me loll

>>34413255
I want to raise children in a stable household and have a legal and religious union with their mother recognized by law and the community.
"All women are whores, so just never commit." Isn't a viable strategy if you want society to continue.
>inb4 Why does society matter? Just do what feels good.
That attitude is how we got here.

>>34413714
What did you expect for posting:
>I let a stranger cum inside me when I was drunk.

>>34413781
Was asking if this is the norm for men since i don’t have much experience with them. I said more than just me drink me fuck.Yeah i knew a few were gonna be calling me a slut. Was just replying to the guy.

>>34413759
You don't have a personal duty to continue society. If you choose to do so, it is an act of self-sacrifice. All the married men I know tell me not to do it.

>>34413824
Genuinely what did you expect? "Men" are not like this, but many men are. It's your job to vet them.

>>34413839
Okay, call me a dumb bitch and go if it’s irking you.

>>34413901
I just don't know what advice you really want. Yes, some men are like this. Not all men are. If you didn't want to get pumped and dumped you could've waited longer into a relationship to have sex.

>>34411399
>Yes, but more importantly, you're now a whore, and it's harder for you to credibly do anything else.

ahahahahahhahha wanted to comment this but didn't want to troll myself.

>>34413909
I was asking for advice on everything i said. I had some specific questions but on the whole situation what other guys thought. I don’t have guy friends who can straighten me out, so i asked on here. First time posting so maybe i wasn’t the most articulate. A lot of people have used that pump and dump thing which is crazy lmao never heard of that so this is a thing that happens a lot. And i have gotten some good advice about not texting the guy, and just other men’s perspectives. Needed a man to full out say yeah he doesn’t respect you it’d be pathetic. I needed to hear that. Idk as a girl you have a thing to try and make things right and i wanted to know if it was bad i was so easy. Some said it happens some called me a whore. I don’t think this was useless

>>34411275
Haven't read wanna play some arams?

>>34414121
As long as you actually get some help from here that's all that matters anon. As much as other anons are gonna shit on you for it or say like "you're being a weak man and just simping" about me, your 1 bad choice doesn't define you.
Yes it might be a big thing to you right now, your first time ever, yes the reality of it is that you 'gave it' away to someone who doesn't respect you, doesn't care and likely just wanted his hole, realize not all guys are like that and if you want to find ones who actually form bonds with you, like I said here >>34413239 don't meet them at parties or on dating apps. Get hobbies, do things, find people through there, don't put out instantly.
It's a big deal right now but it's not a massive deal in your entire life.

>>34414161
This is the worst thing you could’ve asked me on this here thread.

>>34414174
There is no way that that is true

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>>34414185
The man was a league player.

>>34414121
Those are a lot of words to say nothing at all

>>34414213
Top laner behaviour

>>34414166
Yeah you’re right thank you that’s sweet. I definitely won’t rush anything again too. It is just one bad mistake.

>>34414296
Just try to not make the same mistake again and again, even if you do mess up again and some guy just hits and leaves, as long as you're not making a habit of it and not making excuses for yourself, it's OK.
If possible, talk to your mom about it, or dad if you and he are mature enough to handle difficult topics, if your parents love you they'll always be OK with difficult conversations, they'll always be there for you.
I've struggled with choices where I had to mentally justify "one mistake doesn't define me, I am not my mistakes I am the actions I take to avoid making the same mistake over and over again"

Take care bud, stay safe anon.

>>34414315
You’re the best thank you so much. You’re right in that whole reply. I talked to my sister about it and she gave me shit of course but it wont be happening again. I’ve definitely learned a lot from this and don’t wanna be that dumb broad that makes the same mistake over and over. Feel like going forward i know what i actually want now. Take care of yourself!

My sister is 33 years old soon and still a virgin. How the fuck do I help her. I can tell she’s going to attract so many creeps if she tried dating so I never bring it up with her.

>>34411275
>Was i an idiot for giving in like that?
Yes
> Is this what guys do?
It's what assholes do. You gotta vet them.
>He was the one going after me at first. Do men really loose interest after getting what they wanted?
Assholes do
>Was i too easy??
Yes

>>34414422
Was gonna make a joke, but i’ll be serious. How do you know she’s a virgin?

>>34414429
Is there actual men who are out there that would like me even if i didn’t do stuff with him for a while? I feel like i’m a moment of wanting to fuck. Wish I could post my face without posting my face yk I’ve got wife in me but these men all see something to stick their dick in. I don’t have an aesthetic or anything but the same guys keep finding me.

>>34414642
Anon, wake up. Stop it.
Yes, there's men out there that aren't just going to want to shag and run. Is it harder to find that nowadays? absolutely. How old are you?

>>34414673
I know it sounds stupid it’s just the ones that come into my life are all dogs, it makes it feel like there’s really no normal men. i’m 21

Dumb slut

>>34414748
I mean wake up and stop it relating to you saying like, "Is there actual men who are out there that would like me even if i didn’t do stuff with him for a while?"
Of course there is, but lads your age are often just as lost and confused as everyone else and have no clue what they want. Like other anons said, one shite choice in your life doesn't dictate who are you are. It's a shit situation I realize that and the reality is pretty harsh, but you talk to your family about it and realize there is good people out there, just no on apps. If you're still in school or in work try to meet people through that, you will form actual connections and be able to get a better read on if cunts are genuine or no.
Goodluck lass n dont let knobheads here get you down, it's an advice board but remember this place is still a shithole and it's full of incels and women looking to put other women down just as much as the incels are.

>>34414748
Anon. You are a dog. You're no better than those men.

>>34414763
Thank you. I know deep down there’s good men with their heads on right, just so sick of being approached by dicks. I’ll try and look for better people in better spaces. And yeah guys my age are all over the place. This guy was a few years older so i thought he’d be different but i guess it’s still the same for some. Thank you again i won’t let the weirdos on here get to my head lol i know i’m a good girl just made a mistake, not a whore. Stay safe!!

>>34414793
K letting him fuck me was definitely not the right thing to do but i didn’t ghost him. Would’ve wanted to keep going out with him. He fucked me and disappeared.

>>34414807
You are a whore. You're no better than those women. Stop shaming other women and take the bloody L, loser. You were a fucking retard who didn't even know what "pump and dump" meant before this thread, like are you illiterate, how do you not stumble across the phrase in your 21 years of living. Send a message to the cunt, ask. If you weren't looking for a relationship, then why do you care that he's gone? You were also just looking for a crumb of validation, and you got yours in the form of "you are fuckable enough to be pumped and dumped". He got his in the form of "I am fuckable enough to fuck some slut". Happy? If you want something more, then have a personality other than "does this moid like me or not??1? What do I have to do to make moids like me?1??"

Learn how to assess characters. Intent. Motives. Learn from your mistakes. You are a whore. Own it, loser.

>>34414642
Why on earth do you want to post face? Still seeking validation? Just post face. Nobody here gives a shit and people do it all the time. You'll get the feedback or whatever it is you want concerning your face. But what exactly is your face supposed to accomplish? Are you trying to see if your face is "likable" enough? Mate. It's not about your face. It's about your lack of spine. No matter what your face is, you own it.

>>34414885
You're a nigger.

>>34414925
How insightful.

>>34414931
So you literally admitted to being right? You really are one are you?

>>34414964
I didn't admit to anything. I was sarcastically pointing out how your post did not address anything I was talking about (nor add anything to the discussion). I.e. another day on adv another ad hominemtard

No one that insulted op is fuckable in anyway whatsoever.

>>34414974
I'm just passing by. She will be fine.

>>34411275
I tried to do that but everyone made me feel guilty and I stayed
and I regretted it deeply because she was BPD and tried to kill me a couple times, besides poisoning friends and making me look terrible in front of family and everyone around me.
some girls are hit and ran, even if everyone despises you for a short while

>>34414977
If you find the truth insulting that's your problem. I simply pointed out OP's NLOG attitude and the fact that she's spineless. Whilst playing around with the "insults" people seem to be overly sensitive about (whore, incel, yadda yadda)

>>34414979
Sure. Never said she would or wouldn't be

>>34414988
Then why do you care?

>>34414997
Care about what? Just voiced my opinion upon reading the thread.

>>34414885
You jerk chicken fuck. You seem so mad, calm down. No i didn’t know what that was excuse me. When did i ever say does he like me?? how do i make guys like me?? i was asking if this was a thing guys do and more. You clearly read the thread, read it again this time with your eyes open. If you think i’m a whore, okay? If you think one dick is equivalent to 5 or 10 grow up. Got drunk and did something i only regret cause of what happened after. And i said at first i wasn’t looking for a relationship till after. Let me slow this down for you We talk, me not looking for boyfriend. We talk more, me consider. Now idk jack off your anger or some type shii homie. Do you get it now?

>>34415014
You weren't looking for a relationship, you fucked him, and didn't get a relationship. What you did was a whorish act. Stop labelling people whores or not whores. You did something whorish. So be it. Stop trying to distance yourself from the "whore" label. You did what you did. It was whorish. Full stop.

And what, so what you're saying is that AFTER fucking him, you now want a relationship with him? Well then go ahead, build one. If he rejects you then tough luck, move onto the next. And given what happened, approach it differently i.e. don't have sex then expect a relationship to blossom out of it. Build a relationship using something different. Common interests, goals, values, reciprocity, yadda.

>>34414908
Literally said that with no intention of actually doing it lol I went on to say i have no aesthetic or anything which i mentioned cause i also said the same dicks keep coming for me. I don’t need you explaining that i’m fuckable the problem literally is THAT I AM FUCKABLE and these guys won’t do anything else with me. So i came here to ask some questions about men. I also said i don’t have guy friends, never have so yeah im not too knowledgeable on how they operate. If it turns them off when a girl is too easy. If it’s bad to make them wait too long like come on

>>34415043
So what's your end goal? Get into a relationship with a moid you like? Then stop just standing there like an easy target and actually go and find moids you like and figure out what it is you like about them PLUS what they "might" like about you. First step? Make some guy friends. Every guy is different, just like every girl is different, and every human is different - while there are trends, there are also gonna be plenty of exceptions.

>>34415043
This guy just wants to talk to a decent girl. I suggest you stop replying.

>>34415068
>decent looking
But I think you're fine.

>>34414885
truke

>>34415056
Wow actual advice. Thanks. You don’t even call me a whore once.

>>34411667
It is about the kind of person he is. You wanted to fuck and to have a connection. He met you at a club and just wanted to get some tail. That's it. The pussy wasn't bad, your personality wasn't bad, he just never at any point wanted a relationship or a connection. Think about it, he goes to clubs and hooks up with random women, you really think *he* is trying to make a connection?

If you want a connection or talk with someone, don't meet them at the club. Literally the worst place to meet people

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>>34411296
Female virginities are in high demand, you just ruined yourself forever. Too bad.

Might as well become a whore who has casual sex with randos every week. And yes, men who also sleep around will just use your hole and fuck off if they think you're not worth pursuing for anything else. The fact that you got piss drunk with a bunch of randos was probably the trigger for him to realize you were nothing but a brainless slut so he changed tactics to meathole destroyer mode, but even in the last moment he debated whether to actually take your virginity or not, very considerate of him.

>>34415492
Meathole destroyer mode is actually fucking hilarious. Thank you for making me laugh. How am i ruined for life though? A lot of you people say that but how do you actually mean? Why should i just give in to the whore life and get fucked every week now? Genuinely, do you think one dick has ruined me for life? I’ve said in other replies i’m not like that and don’t just wanna fuck and be left alone. You seem to hate sluts but encourage it?

>>34415893
>You seem to hate sluts but encourage it?
this is literally the incel mindset anon, ignore them.
It's the andrew tate type shit "grrrrrrrr women are WHORES!!!! why wont they fuck me!!!!!!! they're fucking whoooores!!!!!"

>>34415492
>Female virginities are in high demand

Thats true but she is definetly not ruined for life. What are you talking about? sounds like its coming from an insane person.

if she is pondering over what to do from now on, chances are she is going to go for the serious guys. if not, then she is still not a whore, this thing is reserved for the ones who charge money for sex. So shut the fuck up.

>>34411275
post tits you stupid fucking slut

>>34416110
Loll literally. Such a polluted brain.

>>34416130
Tbh men pretty much throw out all standards out the window immediately if the woman is hot enough and interested.

>>34411275
You sound very low IQ. And you are also a slut. Why do you care about what men are like? Check yourself first.

>>34416379
Not me. I dumped my hot ex (not posting pics tho) . It sucks, I will kill myself if i have to settle.

>>34416110
Incels arent one thing. Andrew taint represents the india psyop

>>34411275
Well OP let me just say this:
HAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHHAAAHHHSHSHSHAHAHAAHAHHAHAHGAGAJSHAHHAGAHAHHAHAHAHAHSHSHSHSHSHAHAHAHAHAHAGAGGAHAHASGSGDHSGAFAHAHAHAHAAAHAHAHAHA
CONSEQUENCES FOR YOUR ACTIONS NO ONE TO BLAME BUT YOU LOLOL

>>34416455
Thats very well said. Indian people would definetly call any one a slut and a whore the moment they even catch their even their own daughters interacting with a man.

Such a digusting culture. I saw it in Uni with some of my classmates describing how shackled they were back home. MAN its tough for them.

>>34416598
Indian men aren't completely cucked then and don't have only ran-through whores as options for marriage

Good for them, their lives already suck enough

>>34416606
Yeah thats true. While their lives suck at least they have the privilege of not having a ran through wife.

In fact, an indian guy told me this exact same thing a few weeks ago ahahhaha.
"These people give so much shit to their daughters that its easy for us(Indian men) to have a super trained maid wife since divorce in india is the worst thing that can happen to a lady" - Thats what he said.

At OP is not in india. She should celebrate.

>>34415893
>Genuinely, do you think one dick has ruined me for life?
They genuinely do think that, yes.

>>34415893
>Genuinely, do you think one dick has ruined me for life?

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>>34415893
>Genuinely, do you think one dick has ruined me for life?
It's an output of your poor judge of character, and a lack of consideration for the consequences (and risks) of your own behaviors.
Women claim to value intimacy, but also give it away for too low of a price (or for free) showing that they do not in fact value it at all. People judge you for the mistakes you make (and repeat) and that just something you can't pretend isn't a factor in relationships.

>>34416606

they need more pump and dump in their culture. otherwise men wont be able to survive in these trying times.

why can't women be virgins bros. shit so sad I get depressed, not worth it.

>>34416606
>Indian men aren't completely cucked then and don't have only ran-through whores as options for marriage
Not true, plenty of poojeetas grabbing about fucking white boys before arranged marriage meetings. Women will be women no matter the country, ethnicity etc.

>>34416458
Didn’t blame anyone lol I’m well aware i put myself in that situation. Not gonna blame him for wanting pussy, just don’t understand how some can fuck and leave it at that. And you definitely wrote that with a straight face and crumbs on your pants lol

>>34416645
>reddit spacing
>blank.filename from the funny youtube grifters
Just go back.

>>34416997
>poojeetas

literally every single indian girl i have ever seen in my Uni. I feel like the moment they leave india they just whore themselves out. Oh man.

had a couple in class, everything was fine dude was in love with this indian girl and one day they break up and i came to know that girl was married off by her parents and she didnt give two shits about breaking this guy's heart. when my girl-friend inquired about it directly from her she says "nah he would have never survived living in India with me. Its just not adaptable for white people"

man i just feel so bad about that dude.

>>34416997
>>34417028
The anon was talking of indian women that live in India

Yeah the ones in the west are probably as bad as any other

>>34417039
yeah but there's like so little white boys in india. Almost non existent. So i assumed he meant the ones in USA.

Well for whatever its worth i just feel so bad about this whole situation. I mean they are so pressured into staying virgins that literally every indian girl here I see is ready to pounce due to their newly found freedom.

>>34417056
how disgusting

>>34413623
This

>>34413623
Let's have some sex then, bend over

>>34415893
You're not ruined for life but you can't in good faith ask a man to wait for sex now. You already gave not only your body in general but your fucking virginity away for free to a guy who had zero intention of staying with you so you've established the value of your sexuality at about zero. You may still be able to land a decent guy out of pure deception but in a world where people could tell what you've done in your past you would not have a claim to any man who holds himself to a high standard of behavior. You've limited your dating pool to men who have casual sex, and are now searching for a good man in that pool. Honestly just reading your account is making me squeamish I would be beside myself if I'd lost my virginity in such a way and had to face the nightmarish moral ramifications of my actions. I'm so glad I lost my virginity to a loving virgin partner in a long term relationship.

>>34417163
i do second your opionion, OP though has been decieved herself is now a part of the vast majority of girls out there who "potentially" have to lie to land a decent man. I mean this whole account of what OP has gone through is so chliche of getting pumped and dumped that i myself got a little irked by it.

>You've limited your dating pool to men who have casual sex, and are now searching for a good man in that pool.

100% I was once at a stage where a girl who I was in a situantionship with (who I respect still because at least she is a great engineer) however she had like 5-6 partners before and admitted to getting dumped after having casual sex with a guy from a club.

Well I just stopped right then and there. Found myself a good women after a few years. Very happy now. I just couldnt imagine that girl to be mother to my kids one day.

>>34417175
Yep, it's always safe to bet on offspring being like their parents more often then not, so if you don't want your daughter getting pumped and dumped by disease ridden deadbeats you'd better not marry a woman would would ever allow herself to be degraded like that.

>>34417175
>decent man
>man who cares about virginity
Pick one. Caring about virginity automatically excludes you from being a decent man.

>>34417242
He never mentioned virginity. The virginity is almost irrelevant here, it just emphasizes the impact of her poor decision making. This is about her giving her body to a guy who offered nothing in return, and the ramifications for requiring other men in the future to prove their worth to her.

>>34417242
Calm down roastie

Most men nowadays are fucking desperate so you won't have much trouble to find some beta that will accept your high mileage ass

>>34416110
An incel wouldn't want to fuck a whore at least not while thinking straight, of course if he's horny enough he'd probably give in and awkwardly stumble his way into any loose vagina but they'd hate themselves for it. This is why incels don't just hire prostitutes.

>>34417242
nope not saying that at all.

>>34417175
> now a part of the vast majority of girls out there who "potentially"

I said, girls who get decieved "usually"/"potentially" lie their way into a man's life. you can 100% date a great guy for a few months/years and still not end up with him because of whatever reason and after a fee years find a good guy share your past experiences mutually and end up having a good long life with him.

Dont care about virginity at all, did not even hint at it. How do you know my wife was a virgin before I got her. You just automatically joined "good women" with a "virgin women"

I am explaning the mentality of people who care about these things and lying to them is more dangerous as you can have a divorce for example if you had the misfortune of marrying a guy who gets butthurt on finding out you lied instead of working and coping with the fact that in the long scheme of things it really doesnt matter.

Ofcourse its all up to the OP to figure out if she want to "potentially" lie and live her life or just spill it all out before getting together with a seriously good guy.
Because as a guy myself I would like to know what kind of girl my wife was naturally and her having one or two good and serious relationships doesnt exclude her from being a good women if clearly her relationships failing was not her fault.

>>34417242
He'd care if you lose it in the same way slut OP did.

>>34415043
>I go clubbing
>the same dicks keep coming for me
I wonder why

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>virginity doesn't ma-

>>34417335
ahahha this is great. At least OP is at 1. Still there's hope.

>>34416948
Wait I got a question, why is it a good thing for men to loose their virginity but when a woman looses her virginity is a really bad thing? I have never knew why

>>34417335
they gotta get a survery going on in 2020s. My prediction is that it would be serverely low on the 1 and 2 since theres so many beta cucks (both moids and foids) clinging on for their marraiges not to fail.

if so, above woud kind of validate OP's view but at the same time historically virginity does matter. so that's clear.

>>34417371
The overall divorce rate is 40-50%, which indicates that 5 years is not long enough. Especially since anons seem to all want a partner for life.

>>34417368
because women are more emotionally attached to people with first instances. Like first kiss, first love of their life, first sex.

men generally just forget. women value these things themselves and naturally men associate virginity with emotional strenth or resilience of being a great women as a result. so many countless stories of women moping about their ex and actually fucking their current relationship.

Also men loosing their virginity is a good thing is CONSIDERED a good thing by the vast MAJORITY of women themselves, oh my the hypocrisy. being a man whore is also a thing though, stay away from them.

>>34417374
well there goes her chances statistically at least

>>34417390
>men generally just forget
Or become incels. A lot of incels are just men who have a feminine view of romance and intimacy + disapointment seeing a lot of women treat relationships and sex so casually.

>>34417284
>Calm down roastie
I'm a guy.

>>34417335
Virginity doesn't matter. Correct. This is what your chart demonstrates.

>>34417413
ohh man you are decribing my friend p perfectly.

Guy was so into doing the hopeless romantic thing he got depressed as fuck for 1.5 years before moving to <redacted country> and finding the perfect girl for him. He chased her all the way to <redacted country> and <redacted country> and finally <redacted country>. I heard they got engaged and are running a cafe together.

None the less the biggest incel I ever befriended with the exact -
> just men who have a feminine view of romance and intimacy + disapointment seeing a lot of women treat relationships and sex so casually.

>>34417428
>Virginity doesn't matter.

If you truly believe this and you are a man, please answer me something. It's a genuine question.

Would you date a woman that had sex or used to have sex with your father, your brother or your closest friend? (I hope you have at least one of those three)

>>34417442
dont know about >>34417428 but I am gonna answer this beautifully retarded question

I with all my sanity would love to tell you that this is by far the most retarded question I have ever had the privilege to call out being retarded.

there is not only no point in answering this question seriously but also no amount of answering will help OP establish >Virginity doesn't matter.

Wow

>>34417456
With the time it took you to write that you could have just answered it lol

I'm just curious about something, can't you entertain me or a bit?

>>34417464
NTA but it's a retarded question because the chance that any random woman has fucked any of those people is zero. Most of us don't live in a small village of 100 people.

>>34417476
How would you feel if you didn't have breakfast this morning?

>>34417418
>I'm a guy.
No you aren't, and if you are, you're one of those betas he just described, lol.

>>34417488
I don't understand what you're getting at.

>>34411370
Sex is sacred

>>34417497
It's alright. You are a precious boy.

>>34417488
not possible, she makes me eat her out every morning. One way or the other I am getting the fish for breakfast.

>>34417504
What are you, fucking gay?

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virgins for virgins
sluts for sluts
single parents for single parents
OP should just find a guy who also treats sex more casually and has already had a one night stand with a woman and they will be on the same page

>>34411275
feel bad for you.

you were gonna learn one way or the other. People in clubs and bars are not mostly looking for long term or even 2 day stuff.

>>34415893
I don't know about ruined for life but never tell your future boyfriends this anecdote it will give them the ick

>>34417368
It's not, men have their pair bonding mechanism diminished by it too, and end up unhappy. He also represents a flight risk to a woman who is selecting him as a trustworthy mate to raise their kids together. It's just that women also measure the value of a man by his apparent value to other women and they are evolutionarily unprepared for the modern world where contraception and a degenerate and atomized society allows for superficial qualities to reign supreme over true masculine competence and Jewish brainwashing has told them that it's "freeing" to allow themselves to be used and discarded by men for fun rather than to find a loving husband and raise a family together.

Also, it's up to women to enforce that standard, what are other men supposed to do about it?

>>34417547
>women also measure the value of a man by his apparent value to other women


Oh man FINALLY someone said it. this is what i meant when i said

>>34417390
>Also men loosing their virginity is a good thing is CONSIDERED a good thing by the vast MAJORITY of women themselves,

>>34417442
>>34417442
>>34417442
>>34417442
>>34417442

People of /adv/ please address this hypothetical scenario

>>34417442
>>34417557
I wouldn't fuck her, not knowingly

>>34417557
Just get your own thread and what is it with you regarding this unspeakbly retarded question.

i mean there is no limit to ridiculousness, you do what you want but here i gotta ask you how is this hypothetical question gonna help OP in any way

>>34417456
> no amount of answering will help OP establish
>Virginity doesn't matter.

infact no amount of answering is going to not establish if Virginity doesn't matter.

>>34417570
Why does this silly hypothetical scenario triggers you so much? Just answer it. An yes or no would suffice, though I'd prefer a bit more.

>>34417557
No, because if we're having sex it means we're in a serious relationship with plans to get married and have kids, and for the future harmony of the family it would be a bad idea to have that kind of baggage involved

>>34417583
Ok but what about the friend, it's not like he's part of the family

>>34417163
I understand what you’re saying. I know what i did was slutty but that’s the one bad thing i’ve done. I’m 21, out of all those years i’ve never had sex with a man once. The one time i did, it was while drunk, i’m not blaming the alcohol, i was still coherent but i wasn’t thinking straight. It was lust that i’ve literally never given into, until then. This was the first time a man had actually asked me out on a date, took me to see his friends, and took me home. I was excited. Men have always been very foreign to me. I asked a lot of questions here. Was i too easy? okay yes i can admit that i definitely was but when i haven’t put out before the guy lost interest. I feel like if i explained to a good man, a man who had high standards for the woman he got with and he couldn’t handle that id understand but i believe a good man is out there that would understand that i see this as wrong. What i did was wrong and that i grew from it. I wouldn’t lie to a man about this cause i wouldn’t want to be lied to either. I know what you mean but i don’t think i've limited my dating pool and i don’t think i can only search for men who go clubbing and fuck casually now that i did that. Im not a useless woman. I’m European i come from a very traditional household, i know what i did definitely wasn’t traditional but my hearts really there. If a man only sees my value in virginity then i wouldn’t want that to be my man. Yes i took one man’s dick but i can surely makeup for that with what i’d do for a man. I made a mistake and am mature enough to realize it and change it immediately. Sorry that was really long lol

>>34417594
90% of men on this forum are incels who would drop their standards immediately as soon as a hot girl gave them attention.

>>34417594
When you get a man you'll try to be more serious with it will gnaw on you how much harder you are making or him than you made for CHAD, and if you ever tell him that story it will gnaw on him too, even if he doesn't admit

>>34417599

yes these people are feeding on her(OP) so hard.

>>34417547
To continue, humans are not an exclusively r- or k-selected species. Our mating strategies vary between races and, critically, are adaptive based on the situation.
Women are typically operating in a k-selected regime of sexual selection wherein they search for a mate who they deem high quality in terms of genetics, social and technical/practical fitness and competence, and trustworthy. They do this because they carry a heavy burden in reproduction and want to make an optimal choice before committing themselves to a long and vulnerable pregnancy and motherhood.
However, women also have a capacity to fall back into an r-selected behavioral pattern where she attempts to present herself as an easy lay to a man with good genetics to tempt him to impregnate her. We call this being slutty, but it is a legitimate reproductive strategy (albeit one that results in social and cultural degeneration in the long run).
Women have been tricked into being comfortable in this r-selected reproductive mode because it confers a short term dopamine reward, and is beneficial to the Jews who want to destroy European society.

Fortunately, there is a counterbalancing force: men, who also instinctively bond with their partner and children to become a provider, are very sensitive to the threat of paternity fraud, since raising another man's child is very evolutionarily costly for the individual. So men have an innate disgust for women who display r-selected mating habits because it confers a high risk of paternity fraud. This is an instinctive disgust that dates back to long before humans had a rational understanding of how pregnancy worked, because people who were genetically more averse to being cucked had better genetic fitness. Unfortunately these days so many women have participated in disgusting sexual behavior so there may legitimately not be enough of them left to go around, but there is at least a restoring force that has the potential to end this era of degeneracy

>>34417611
We are just giving her the COLD HARD FACTS

If you want to be coddled, go to reddit

>>34417615
>since raising another man's child is very evolutionarily costly for the individual. So men have an innate disgust for women who display r-selected mating habits because it confers a high risk of paternity fraud.

never thought I would find someone who would mention this here. Glad people with a little science in them are still present here.

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>>34417594
Instead of preying on top men, just find a less disciplined, but *good enough* man. Someone who has also made similar mistakes will be able to understand you better.

>>34417599
Prob not true

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>>34417599
Not sure if I would do that if I were put on the spot now but back in highschool the cutest girl at school (it was a small school though) had a crush on me and we were kinda about to make it official but I found out she had been hanging with a couple of guys in the bathroom doing something and immediatelly stopped talking to her. Turns out I was right to do so she was a filthy slut, she eventually got together with another guy and would often take him to my soccer practice and make out close to my net (i was a goalkeeper). To this day I'm still a virgin and maybe my desperation would get the better of me now but my standards and hate for whores were rock solid back then. She was definitelly a 8/10 with an amazing ass.

>>34417648

Damn sorry to hear this but trust me you are way better off than getting herpes from a school slut.

that shit is chronic if ever some dumbass here says its not a big deal. HERPES IS CHRONIC and ALL SLUTS HAVE IT.

>>34417634
OP should just go for more promiscuous men from now on, for whom casual sex is commonplace

>>34417594
>I feel like if i explained to a good man, a man who had high standards for the woman he got with
How else would he react after learning that a woman obviously didn't meet those standards? He shouldn't be an asshole about it, especially if he was given the kindness of her own honesty. But that doesn't mean he should accept it.

>i grew from it.
Learning from your mistakes (a stretch to call a deliberate choice a mistake) doesn't mean you grow from them. It is strictly better for you to never have made that choice in the first place.

>i know what i did definitely wasn’t traditional but my hearts really there.
This is practically ragebait. The one thing that is guaranteed to piss almost everyone off is hypocrisy. Sexually open guys will be annoyed that you think you're above them/different. More conservative guys will be annoyed that you claim to have your heart in the right place despite apparently not even giving a shit where other dudes put their junk. Changing your mind afterward doesn't change what you did.
I put it in crass terms, but this is the damage your actions caused that the other anon was referring to, because the only way to "avoid" the judgement is to double down on what you did, either by becoming a liar or just by accepting that you're not as moral a woman as you'd like to think.

>If a man only sees my value in virginity then i wouldn’t want that to be my man.
False choice. Virginity is a byproduct of upholding moral standards, not the goal itself, let alone the only thing a guy would care about. Standards are boundaries defining one's dating pool, not the end of one's search within those bounds. What you did is proof positive that you not only don't value monogamy, but you also couldn't give that to a guy even if you wanted to You can no longer be truly exclusive; in other words, you're out of those bounds for men who value that. If you had any sense of what a "traditional" mindset was, you'd understand the difference.

>>34417648
I have a similar story, but in my case it was after HS and I learned she had sucked the dick of a guy I know.

And I was starting to like her, but when I heard about that my ICK went to the moon and all feelings died on the spot.

Anyway, I don't see the point in sharing those things. But I don't regret it and I wouldn't act differently.

>>34417648
Faggot

>>34411275

you should run an advertisement on your national television that you have now credibly become used and any good man out there who wants a chance at a very long lasting family give up if they want you.

>>34417594
It's not about virginity, the point would stand even if you weren't a virgin. It doesn't matter what you say or think or meant or feel. The facts are simple: you had sex with a guy without requiring him to prove a single shred of worth or dedication to you. That's the standard you've set. If you meet another man who you really like but you want to wait to have sex with him, he will be very hurt by the double standard you're applying to him. At the same time, withholding sex is the #1 tool of sexual selection in women to prove the dedication of a man. You've put yourself in a situation where no man is going to tolerate your use of what is supposed to be your most powerful tool for filtering for a good man. Again you'll probably lie by omission and might get away with it, or maybe you'll get lucky and find a guy who loves you but doesn't care enough about sex to feel protective and jealous of your past, who will just gracefully accept whatever he's given. But you're stuck in this horrible corner of options now. I don't envy you in the slightest, although I fear your situation is pretty common.

Here's a hypothetical: say you meet another guy. You really like him, and could see him as a potential future husband. You're not positive yet though, and want to get to know him more. He's starting to get handsy with you early on. What do you do to make sure he's serious about the relationship and not just going to pump and dump you again?

>>34417657
It's not a problem if you're sensible and get her tested. All this guy did was pass up on fucking the cutest girl in the school, now he will end up 40 years old without having sex.

>>34417749
>no man is going to tolerate
oh brother. don't listen to this drama queen, he literally exists on this board to spread this untrue nonsense cuckservatism that no one actually cares about in real life after high school

>>34417782
Perhaps tolerate is too absolute of a word to use, but no man is going to feel good about it. You honestly wouldn't care if a woman you know had had casual sex in the past made you wait an extended time to have sex? That wouldn't give you pause about the relationship?

>>34417782
>oh brother.
Lol, who are you talking to?

>>34417782
so lets say i am selling ice cream and give one out for free to the cute girl and then immediately charged the next one in line.

you arent gonna be irked by that. sounds like bullshit.

>>34417788
If you're modestly attractive then women who had casual sex give it up easier, not harder. If any woman makes you wait at all it's because they don't find you attractive.

>>34417800

not really, people with trust issues literally do this to the ones they adore and would like to stay with life. you are generalizing so much that it makes no sense at all.

OP will now literally have trust issues with men and will end up doing this to ones who she finds super attractive.

what has this thread even gotten to. stop generalizing and start thinking about real life stuff.

Casual sex is a psyop. Men shouldn't be seeking it and women shouldn't be spreading their legs so carelessly

>>34417800
I'm not a supermodel. I'm like a 6-7/10 slightly above average male with an impressive job and a lot of inherited wisdom. I know from the women I've had interested in me in the past that I have qualities that make me a quality choice as a husband and father. But if a girl isn't sure of that yet and I'm not as attractive as the man sluts she's been banged by in the past who spend all their time and money on looking good, she's probably going to make me wait for sex to make sure I'm not just after her for her body. Which she should do, except if she's applying that standard to me and not others then I don't want her. In an ideal world everyone would just only have sex in the bounds of an established relationship and this question would never even be pertinent. I don't believe chastity until marriage is necessarily the best policy in the modern era but it's a hell of a lot better than this clusterfuck.

>>34417807
>people with trust issues literally do this to the ones they adore and would like to stay with life.
That's beta bucks territory where you buy her shit while she fucks hot guys on the side. No sane man is interested.
>>34417811
>I'm not as attractive as the man sluts she's been banged by in the past who spend all their time and money on looking good, she's probably going to make me wait for sex to make sure I'm not just after her for her body.
You're just repeating what I said. If you're not attractive enough for her to fuck immediately, it's your fault, not hers. A woman who is 300lbs has to lose weight, not convince men to lower their standards.

>>34417780
>wait little HS whore, please give me a blood sample before we make out in the school's bathroom

lolololol

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>>34417837
You're worried about cold sores which 70% of people already have? Lol, you are such a geek.

I'm pretty unaware. Is what being said here common? Have this happened in your life. I never had a one night stand and wouldn't.

>>34417848
The data says more than half young women nowadays have had casual sex at least once. We live in a world of whores, anon.

>>34417848
Common for women and top 10% males

>>34417780
you are gonna get a HS whore tested? how so?

< listen here little HS whore, let me swab your pussy before we intermingle like two horses in stables(gym storage)>

get tested? where? in the school infirmary? < Hi HS nurse, this whore is my cumdump now. Please test for STI, heres the little cotton bud I rubbed off her pussy.>

what a retarded way to say "you are retarded" goddam

>>34417822
There is no level of attractiveness that should lead to fucking immediately for any well-adjusted person who understands the gravity of sexual relationships. Attractiveness draws you to each other, dedication and long term compatibility determine if someone is a viable sexual partner, especially from a woman's perspective (nominally, anyways). This is the crux of the problem; I turn down all the women that are interested in me because they don't measure up to my ex or my standards for mother of my children, but I'm afraid when I do find one it will be someone who has your degenerate worldview and has degraded herself. There's no way to really directly ask if she has done this in the past, so the lack of a strong culture norm surrounding it is a critical problem.

>>34417863
You're asking how to get an STD test? It's so over. Time to throw in the towel. You will never have sex.

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>>34417822
>If you're not attractive enough for her to fuck immediately,

oh yeah? with this logic chances are your own wife will one day whore herself out to any hollywood chad the moment she lays her eyes upon him. heck even if she gets a whif of his presence in the 2km radius her clothes just rips off and she straight pounces on his dick.

>>34417867
>well-adjusted person who understands the gravity of sexual relationships
Are we talking about the same gender?

>>34417873
You're acting like that doesn't happen all the time.

>>34417874
Yes, well-adjusted men experience sexual attraction as part of a natural desire to partner up with a high quality woman and future mother of his children. And women should be an order of magnitude more cautious than that as a result of their instinctive caution driven by the evolutionary vulnerability of pregnancy and child rearing. The natural order of things has been subverted by Jewish social agendas that seek to atomize society into a maximally productive utility rather than something that transmits culture and stability into the future for posterity.

>>34417749
I really don’t know. I don’t think i actually know how a guy acts when they really like you. I really don’t like hurting men’s feelings. i am being so serious i wouldn’t know if he’s serious about me. God i really have no idea im sorry. I couldn’t just fuck him cause he got handsy. I’d have to tell him about this which might make him insecure most likely cause he might think he isn’t worth fucking that quick but it’s literally me being scared. We would have to be dating for me to actually believe he’s serious. Even then i’d be scared he was gonna break up with me after. Maybe meet his mom? Turns out taking a girl to meet friends doesn’t mean anything. I am so sorry that was all over the place

>>34417882
Women are ravenously horny and impulsive for the right man. Their "caution" is the impulsive difference between getting the ick or getting wet, it is not a conscious decision that can be influenced by thought.

>>34417875
It happens to people who marry whores who are governed by impulses and vices like OP, yes. It is far less likely to happen to people who hold sexual relationships and familial integrity to be a serious matter.

>>34417871
yeah guess what retard? every guy here is not from united states. HS kids get their parents rung up on sight if they get caught with STI.

throw in the towel for your slow head to comprehend that you are a retard.

>>34417886
Women take these thing seriously insofar as they hide their transgressions as much as possible.
>>34417887
>every guy here is not from united states.
How am I supposed to take anything you say seriously if you're not from the US?

>>34417884
That's my point, men will pretend to be into you in order to get sex. The way you can separate the wheat from the chaff is by not having sex with them until the relationship has become serious. The hope is that if he's just after sex, he'll break up with you when he gets tired of waiting.
But now you're cornered by the fact that a good man who would ordinarily happily wait for sex might break up with you if he discovers you were easy for another man. So your options are either to tell the truth and risk losing a good man, or lie about it, or just let guys pump and dump you until one decides he likes you enough to keep you (although when you let a man does that he usually no longer considers you girlfriend material). If you're lucky you'll find a man like me who doesn't rush things and you won't have to make him wait, but once again if I found out I was working to prove my patience and dedication to a girl who fucked random strangers in the past with no strings attached I would probably break up with her.

>>34417891
>How am I supposed to take anything you say seriously if you're not from the US?

yeah well thats early signs of how retards get diagnosed with with a slow brain unable to see that earth did have land mass beyound the atlantic. they keep on getting dissonance the moment that one irish kid speaks up in class and lash out <i see obama in this kid even though he is not black or anything> thats when the school nurse calls the KGB somehow dont even ask how, she just does and gets you to some russian crazy people center where people are just sent to the front lines.

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>>34417909
What?

>>34417914

what what? retard, still too slow to understand how my ad hominem arguments are completely non sensical and an extension to your own retardedness?

>>34417919
Look, I'm American. I already won.

>>34417780
Meaningless sex makes no one a winner

>>34417922

oh yeah thats for sure. in being the greatest retard you already did. i will give that to you eternally.

>>34417924
honestly i am not gonna lie, i am really enjoying calling someone a retard repeatedly on the internet without mutually giving out the usernames.

you gotta try harder and rage bait me so my rage takes me to new creative levels on how to formulate new ways to call you a retard.

>>34417923
She could've been the love of his life, you don't know that.

>>34417896
Okay so i meant id tell him before we dated. I’ve never dated a guy but there must be a period where you both know you wanna be with each other right? If i really liked him and knew we would date i’d say it then, not risk jumping into it without saying what I’ve done. Does that make sense? And if the guy actually stays around and proves he’s seriously not gonna do the same then i’d fuck him, as my boyfriend. I’ll never fuck casually again the amount of stress that put on my body felt like i was insane. Evil dick. I want a nice boyfriend who actually loves me, then he can get me.

>>34411275
Come and go

>>34417938
These things don't usually happen in such a structured way. There often isn't much of a conversation first, just a natural attraction. You become friends and your friendship develops a romantic undertone and eventually you become intimate. But yes maybe you'll have some chance early on to talk about your past experiences. But again him "staying around and proving he's not gonna do the same" means you're not going to let him have your body, and if he knows that you let someone else have it and not him he might leave. I'll be honest the vast majority of women just lie about their past though so if you're actually going to be honest about it I commend you and I hope you find a guy who will accept it. I wish you would just have avoided this situation in the first place and had your first time with a loving partner though.

>>34417928
I don't believe in sex before marriage. She a ho

>>34417938
>the amount of stress that put on my body felt like i was insane. Evil dick

Tags: Mind break

>>34417938
>Evil dick.

yeah that dude has an evil dick for sure. probably didn't get baptized when he was little.

next time you gotta throw holy water at him(if you catch him going for another unsuspecting little sheep) and pray he doesnt go around whoring himself out anymore and making others start their whore careers, ofcourse you are a strong exception to this "whore career" thing as a good amount of pondering on your part completely dissolved this issue. I pray you find a great guy.

>>34417975
>next time you gotta throw holy water at him

She will probably suck his cock again if she comes that close

>>34417985
i hate that most girls are like this and in most cases you are absolutely right.

saw a girl break her mind over a boy because he ran away, a case of pumpanddump, 2 years later they meet again at some rando party and well well well look who's together again. i hate this cliche so much

>>34417957
Yeah me too ughhhhg You seem like a nice guy. Thanks for being real

>>34417896
>The way you can separate the wheat from the chaff is by not having sex with them until the relationship has become serious.
This only sort of works. It prevents (most) pump-and-dumps, but it is useless against the kind of guy who treats relationships as a convenient, open-ended way to get consistent sex. These are far more common, and a lot of these guys genuinely believe in what they're doing--they just don't see anything wrong with dating for years on end and getting complacent.
The only thing that removes virtually all of that risk is waiting until an actual, enforceable commitment, i.e. marriage.

>>34417985
Definitely not lol

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>>34417963
Good luck then. 95% of married women had sex before marriage. You're 70 years too late.

>>34418017
While I agree that marriage is a far more powerful commitment, if you actually date a man seriously then within a month or two there will be a clear progression towards your lives becoming more intertwined, meeting each other's friends and parents, and just generally becoming more interdependent on each other. Obviously just getting ice cream once a week for 3 months doesn't confer any sort of guarantee that he's committed.

>>34418020
>dat trend

oof

It's hard to justify marriage in this day and age, even if you happen to find one of the "good ones". Women will keep getting worse and worse. You marry you are basically with a ticking time bomb on your lap lmao

>>34417991
I won’t be like that. That’s just embarrassing for the girl and validating for the dude. You gotta hate yourself to go for a round two. I don’t hate myself.

>>34418029
yeah i mean we all just gotta follow what elon did and impregnate 14 women and establish a residency in texas so the max child care is 2000 usd.

prerequisites:
* be at least a muti millionaire to avoid going to jail
* have some solid lawyers on retainer.
* if not above, randomly disappear in south africa get a new identity and move to europe.

benefits: you can brag you have random 14 families around the world.

>>34418039
yeah well you are on the right tracks then.

yes absolutely, that girl really must just have a very strong imposter syndrome to get back with that dude.

>>34418044
Elon is a nigger just like every other African, that's not the solution to fixing western society. The solution is reestablishing a righteous and moral society, and once the orthodox position is anti-promiscuity again, women will return to being the enforcers of the orthodoxy and you'll start hearing phrases like "what kind of a girl do you think I am?" again, subjugating themselves and feeling shame for their degenerate behavior

>>34418048
She is on the right track to fool the next guy (with our help). Well desu fuck him, everybody that accepts used goods is a sucker anyway

>>34411275
You got used. And you let yourself be used because you really wanted to feel important to someone. He knew that, and he fucked you. You got what you wanted but not for how long you wanted it. He only wanted the orgasm, you wanted connection.
You got used, but that's because you allowed it. This happened because you were desperate for love and you looked in the wrong guy. Yes a lot of guys are like that. But it's not just guys, a lot of women are like that guy too. I lost my virginity to absolute cunt of a woman who I wanted to marry but she was a two timing bitch. And then my dumbass repeated the process with yet another dumb cunt who fucked me over again.

And the fucked up thing about life as a guy, is when you start off as well meaning and practicing kindness, and you wanna do right by your first woman, you get fucked around if you pick the wrong one. And again and again. The woman who should have been with you at the start, the kind woman who also looks for love. She doesn't give you a single thought when you are the innocent guy.

Only until you as a man have been fucked over and over by rotten women, only until that guy who started off with a full heart and had become a hard hearted bastard himself, only THEN does the kind loving girl show up. Then she's interested then she wants you.

I have no idea why this happens femanon. I am not angry towards women about it. I am certain a similar fucked up thing happens to chicks who started off well meaning too. I just don't know why life is so absurd this way.

>>34418091
elon might be a nigger who is too white to be a nigger but still a nigger HOWEVER he fucked 11 girls more than me and got actual kids paperwork and money paid off to them to stay quiet.

Massive respect on this achievement. the only solution to fixing western society is more pump and dumps with actual scientists and smart people dying a virgin because no girl wants to fuck an awkward potentially an undiagnosed autist and finally have a society where real retards just loudly call each others niggers.

< hey nigger, you left your shoe at that damn grocery store again, retard >

^ actual callout from the future if this shit keeps happening.

>>34418116
>I have no idea why this happens femanon

Because you prefer to guide your life by hollywood tropes instead of the wisdom of your ancestors

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>mfw this thread

>>34418116
>Continued
And I know that I am not making this shit up. One of the bitter pills men swallow is listening to how most women think. One of the things women think that drives us crazy is if you ask them:
>Would you prefer to lose your virginity to a male virgin, or a male who has had a lot of sex?

Most girls pick the guy who fucked a lot, they outright prefer it. Even virgin girls, no, especially virgin girls, they want the fuck boy. They say it's because they want to feel safe and want to be with a guy who knows what he's doing. But they never realize they get their wish, they get a guy who knows what he's doing. And what he's doing is not what you are gonna like in the end. Sexually you will get your fulfillment. Emotionally and mentally you are going to get destroyed. And virgin girls never see it coming.

When the guy is innocent and kind and well meaning and virgin, none of you "nice girls" give a fuck. That's not me being hostile that's just the truth. When that innocent guy gets ruined, his heart turned to stone, his mind dragged inside out, and he resembles "bad guy", when the boy has died and an emotionless man takes his place in his heart, then you show up. Then you get hot for him. It's fucking insane.

>>34418158
The girlfriend I lost my virginity with was basically my equal in the relationship, we had a pretty neutral dynamic. We had an amazing time together as we explored our sexualities together and learned how sex worked just by instinct (neither of us had seen porn). It was super romantic and was a months long process of slowly deepening our intimacy. Those stupid virgin women who just want a guy to take the reins without concern for her are retarded and naive and make me seriously reconsider whether women should have any rights in society

>>34418134
>Because you prefer to guide your life by hollywood tropes instead of the wisdom of your ancestors

Get off your high horse and stop posturing. "Wisdom of your ancestors". The ancestors are dead. Their wisdom endures, but it's the living who carry the weight. The ancestors have it easy because they have perished, and the living envy the dead. Don't presume to think others haven't known wisdom. They have and when they worn that on their character, and they tried to live by it, they got fucked around for it. And I know now it's better to stay wise and never give it up. I know it now as a grown man who went through many partners and got the experience sexually mentally and emotionally.

But it still doesn't negate the fact: the young man age 16-18 gets precisely nothing if he tries on wisdom at that age. His female peers don't care for it at that age. In fact they think he is a loser or boring if he tries wisdom at that age. I've seen it done so many times. I see it even now, whenever I overhear teenagers in passing in the street, they openly laugh and mock guys their own age who I can tell are guys who are trying their best, to be "wise."

>>34418170
You think wisdom is some sort of fashion lmao

>>34416379
To be entirely fair, those are two very stringent standards, as we're constantly reminded of here on our Sudanese Underwater Basket Weaving Forum. Say you're the average anon on /adv/. Consent alone is going to wipe out a full 99% of the population, and that there's 1% of the entire earth's population out there that might still want to fuck them is being incredibly generous. If you narrow that generous one-in-a-hundred down to only the ones that are 'hot enough' its more like one in a million or even less.

We let women get away with being less discriminating on those subjects, they don't even seem to care if the man is sixty years her elder so long as she can use him for money and property. Suffice to say that both sides have something they're hunting for and it doesn't have anything to do with Disney romance.

>>34418172
And you don't think at all "lmao". No wisdom is not fashion, wisdom is experience, it's that simple. Have you considered trying not to think on someone else's behalf before opening that fake mouth of yours?

>>34418180
Oh ho ho ho if you wait to experience everything first hand of course you'll have a very difficult life

That's where the wisdom of the ancestors™ comes in

But you preferred to be guided by How I Met Your Mother

Sad!

>>34418183
And this is why I know you to be a posturing fraud. Wisdom is experience, you would know that if you had wisdom beneath those stupid eyes of yours. You don't though, and that's why you like to posture, you cling to "wisdom of the ancestors". You don't even consider how your ancestors had become wise. They became wise through their own experiences. They're not your experiences, and so, it's not your wisdom. You have none.

If you listened to your ancestral wisdom, you would know that your line you wrote:
>if you wait to experience everything first hand of course you'll have a very difficult life
Was the most foolish thing you could say. Wisdom is experience, and "He who hath wisdom has twice as much sorrow." You never learned that? You're had an easy an sheltered life. Your ancestors had a spine and had a hard one. Know where you stand before pretending to be wise.

>>34418198
Oh you like quotes. Here is one for you:

>Only a fool learns from his own mistakes. The wise man learns from the mistakes of others

>>34418198
bruh wtf are you even talking about anymore

>>34418183
he is completely correct when he says "anyone will have a difficult life who experiences first hand."

> He who hath wisdom has twice as much sorrow

he literally said the exact same thing and told you that you were gonna have a difficult life if you experience everything first hand.

are you so lost in the argument that you stopped understanding what he even said?

>>34418207
You consider a politician to be wise? You really are a fool. Otto von Bismarck you quoted, that's the ancestral wisdom?

>>34418116
I’m really sorry that happened, honestly. Yeah girls can be just as nasty as men. Even worse cause they are supposed to have that mental of more loving and caring, but some don’t. I truly am sorry. Yeah i can’t blame the guy i don’t know his story yk never got to that point. i clearly did not know this guy well enough he seemed really good at first. He wanted to get to know me and all that, was funny. He honestly seemed nerdy the way he was acting about me was like he hadn’t gotten attention for awhile but people do crazy things for a fuck. It makes sense why some men get the way they are i just wish it wasn’t him that got me.

>>34418227
>He wanted to get to know me and all that, was funny. He honestly seemed nerdy the way he was acting about me was like he hadn’t gotten attention for awhile but people do crazy things for a fuck.

What he did was he just tapped into the times he was sad or nerdy or whatever, he picked out a mental outfit to wear, a costume designed to mimic or mirror your own mental state, and he did that to get you to feel safe and trust him. Meanwhile he already knew in the back of his head, it was just going to be a one time performance, his orgasm. Then when the show was over, acts like you are a weirdo for trying to see him backstage aka trying to pursue something more out of him after the sex was done. That's exactly what happened.

>>34418235
>>34418227
Also your empathy is appreciated but there's no need to say sorry, you and I are our own individuals, you have not wronged me. As I said I don't feel anger towards women, that would be stupid. Just the dynamic that happens when young men and young women try to play house and love and be loved and immaturity fucks it up spectacularly, that's what always confounds me lol

>>34418158
I honestly would’ve preferred a virgin guy who came after two seconds and had a heart than this, being so serious. Girls say that but don’t gain anything from it, only heartbreak. I’ve never fallen under that whole need a guy who knows what he’s doing thing. That’s why this is like not normal for me. I got played with it’s my fault once again for letting him fuck me but i’m not gonna turn into an evil whore that some turn into. Some guy on here told me i started this so i should just go on with fucking guys but it’s really not me. I really wanna love someone and feel it back genuinely, not get fucked and tossed aside like an actual fuck toy.

>>34418255
>it’s really not me.
If that were true, this thread wouldn't exist. You are a slut. End of story.

>>34418235
God you actually hit the nail right on the head. What’s crazy is that morning cause he woke up a few times, but the final time he actually got up and immediately was like let me get you that uber home gotta go. And of course i wasn’t like ou let me stayyy. I found it weird immediately. He like ripped that mask off and threw it at me uhhgawd

>>34418255
>I honestly would’ve preferred a virgin guy who came after two seconds and had a heart than this, being so serious.
I believe you, but only because you say that now. Did you say that back then? Chances are you didn't, and that's why it happened. Likewise, I say what I know now as a man who made his fuck-ups. I didn't say it back then when I was young an dumb. I think that the way forward is to just chock it up to what happens when people, man or woman, are just drunk with youth. We are silly fuck ups before the moment of error, only until after we learn. Part of me guesses that's just life.

>Some guy on here told me i started this so i should just go on with fucking guys but it’s really not me.
He says that because that's the path he chose. And I was very close to choosing that path myself as a guy. You hear it from their side of the aisle often "The only way to get over someone, is to get under another."

I got male friends like that, and I do love them as friends despite that I disagree with the path they chose. But I can't lie and turn my eyes from the truth. Truth is learned and adapted, I got a wife and a kid now. And the "jack the lad" friends I got, the ones who chose the life of casual sex after their heart break, I had to talk one out of a suicide attempt this year. That's what their path leads to.

>>34418271
>God you actually hit the nail right on the head. What’s crazy is that morning cause he woke up a few times, but the final time he actually got up and immediately was like let me get you that uber home gotta go. And of course i wasn’t like ou let me stayyy. I found it weird immediately. He like ripped that mask off and threw it at me uhhgawd

Yep, that's what happened. Though I won't pretend he was some evil narcissistic guy to you either, I know this type of guy very well. They run away 90% because their performance is over, they got what they wanted. The secret 10% is shame. They don't want to wake up and see your sleeping face next to them, that would mean humanising you, counting the hairs on your head, hearing you breath, understanding you have feelings. That would bring the manifold shame and guilt flooding in, knowing they just used and exploited another human, even as they had been exploited themselves once upon a time, and they do not want to face that. So they bounce.

Here's a very relevant comment to the situation OP is in now that she got played, from an anon in another thread:
>>34416946

>>34418286
I did. Can’t prove it obviously, but i’ve always preferred love. The whole does size matter shit always bothered me cause like i just want love lmao. Obviously in my situation i thought it’d come with doing that or at least grow into something if that makes sense yk? Good on you for not getting into that causal loveless sex route and you have a family now, that must be great. I’ve done some fucked shit drunk this was definitely the worst but i’ve learnt from it and learned what i want and need now. Won’t let my stupid action fuck me for life. I’m so sorry you had to go through that too, you’re tough honestly that’s a lot of pressure.

>>34418306
Oof you’re gonna make me cryyyy lolllll UGH. I hate how i gave that to a man who literally wouldn’t care if i got ran over. Life is crazy and i was so stupid.

>>34418372
>I did. Can’t prove it obviously, but i’ve always preferred love.
Nah no need to prove it, I'll take your word for it. I suppose I worded my question wrong. It's tricky, because when we make fuck ups, we do it because we want loved. When we do good things, we do it out of love. I believe you always preferred love and still do, my point is less to do with love, more to do with virgin guy. I think the reason why chicks conciously or unconsciously avoid them is maybe their thought might be "What do they know about love? They have not experienced it." And maybe that's why girls go for the experienced guy, thinking the guy understands love. After all, if there's one thing I think I know about women, and I still learn, so correct me if I am wrong. It's that: women want security. That's their love 'engine' it's security, right? They want to feel safe, not just physically, emotionally too? Their dream is to be able to lay their head on the chest of a man who has decided "This woman is mine, I love her, and because I love her, I will take care of her." That sort of thing?

If I were a girl and my love engine was security, then yeah maybe I'd make the mistake of passing on virgin guy too. I can see the emotional 'logic'. Behind presuming virgin guys to be inexperienced and therefore not secure options. But as you know, the guy with experience has experience in fucking love up, over and over lol.

>>34418372
> I’m so sorry you had to go through that too, you’re tough honestly that’s a lot of pressure.
Also thanks for saying. Don't forget that applies to you too, you get dealt some shit and get you still live. Be sure to take a piece of that kindness you shown me for yourself as well yeah?

>>34418379
>Life is crazy and I was so stupid
In the bright side, you are able to know and say that. That's the beginning of wisdom. That guy won't be saying "I was so stupid" for a long time, years maybe decades. Be thankful you are not like him.

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>>34418395
>That guy won't be saying "I was so stupid" for a long time
I don't know about that, if what op says is true and he hesitated putting it in at first I think he has some conscience but his dick and her begging won that night.

>>34418331
OP wasn't "played". She's just a whore. Don't feed her illusions.

>>34418389
I see what you mean. I honestly think a guy who’s a virgin is capable of security like that. Some girls like the thought of oh he had so many girls but i’m the one he picked out of the sea of all them. So they can feel security in that too i guess. I don’t think you have had to experienced love to give it. It’s easy to love if it’s in you.

>>34418417
It won that night, but he lost another piece of his innocence when he defiled another. I know this because I know these guys like I said. They come to me for counsel, before fucking the girl casually, I know what these types of men speak before the act. The things they say to me they never tell the girl, ever. And every time I tell them to say it to the girl and to take their stupid mask off and just be sincere, even if they feel ugly, they would be better off. They never listen unfortunately.

Truth is they know, they know and they feel bad before even doing it, one such man told me "Idk. She's nice, too nice. And attractive and she is really sweet and innocent but I don't see it going anywhere, I don't think she is going to want someone like me. I'm obviously a piece of shit, why would she want that? I'll see where things go but I'm not sure I want someone that close to me."

They're scared men. Behind all the bravado and macho shit is a scared kid afraid to be exposed. They always hesitate but they do it anyway and then feel self disgust and do it all again.

>>34418423
>I don’t think you have had to experienced love to give it. It’s easy to love if it’s in you.
Well said, then you're someone with a good head on your shoulders who simply made a mistake. If you haven't already, do forgive yourself yeah? Easier said than done, but always try

>>34418395
Aw thank you, i will yeah. Honestly I hope he figures himself out. Wish i wasn’t involved with that but now that it’s happened it happened. It’s not hard for me to admit my wrongs.

>>34418422
Sure, now that she whored around/gave it up for free/etc regardless of how you paint it, the point is that in the modern status quo, being a virgin is the only way a woman can have enough credibility to filter for quality men without him suspecting her of holding him to a double standard.

>>34418423
Leave virgin boys alone and go for more sexually open people like you, they aren't all that bad

>>34418456
All i said was that i think they’re capable of loving lol what?

>>34418471
Sure, but if their main flaw is virginity, then they deserve a better gf than you

>>34418483
She never said it was a flaw anon. She even said she would have preferred a virgin than what she got dealt. That isn't a put down. I misread her too but she is just saying her main objective was someone who is capable of love, that's all. And it just so happened there was no virgin men who crossed paths with her.

And the more I dwell on it the more I realize virginity isn't even a virtue anyway. It can be a sign of one, chastity, but chastity doesn't require virginity. A lot of people get this wrong, myself included. I should know because some of the girls who later two-timed me were virgins lol. A woman can be ruined long before having sex, all it takes is just one big bad upbringing, no love from father.

>>34418443
>>34418498
NTA but like I said earlier the issue is more about being easy than losing her virginity. The virginity is just a major loss because it is a major sign of credibility when it comes to men who are suspicious of her wanting to wait for sex to ensure they're a good romantic match

>>34418498
The point is that she should find a guy with a similar level of mistakes, instead of trying to track down a more disciplined man to make him pathetically settle for her

>>34411275
OP i am so proud that my earlier persistent shit posting on your thread attracted so many intellectuals to this thread.

i thoroughly enjoyed all kinds of exchanges on this thread.

at the very beginning i was the guy who was playing with calling you "Whore"

later I completely switched up and started being against the idea of you being as such.

then I hid myself behind the idea that all them were wrong here and were feeding on you I represented the guy who dismissed both the above and started recounting my random past experiences about 'p', that whore from HS etc.

threw the convo on dissing indians and their culture.

then i started calling a guy retard just so i can keep this thread alive and get more people to just look at this thread join it and some "wise" dumbasses did.

anyways most of the responses that were obviously not troll were genuinely helpful to you and i am proud that people were less of an incel than i expected ofcourse subtracting the ones I artificially generated just to get them diss my incelity so they can feel superior that they are actually not one.

anyways i hope you get a great guy. please dont listen to the ones who are critical of your character, i believe you are sweet enough to land a great guy.

also that one retard i called a retard, trust me guy you are a retard.

i am gonna go sleep, my sick leave holiday was well spent on this thread and i am very thoroughly entertained.

>>34418513
>please dont listen to the ones who are critical of your character

Yeah she just spread her legs on a whim. That's not representative of a woman's character! lol