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bitches aint shit but hoes and tricks

>>34552859
cmon man akaash has suffered enough already

>how to get women
Be tall and white, that's literally it. There is no secret advice or guide, everything is about looks.

BAN ZACH.
He is the most deranged namefag or recognisable poster on any board. At least other deranged schizos are funny but he just mumbles to himself about nothing worthwhile.

What are my odds in the dating market if I'm retired at 38? I have enough saved that I don't need to work, but I don't have enough that I can go spend frivolously on expensive shit...

>>34552196
Thoughts on dating sluts?

>>34534655
>>34551884

Actually, now that I've had time to think about this a bit more, the whole sex only takes "X" minutes stuff is pretty much just coping. Sure, it's very fast and porn may be "fake" in how sex is sensationalized, but that doesn't mean you can't spend all day thinking about women and sex. Lust doesn't go away just because women will get you off quickly. Also, the post-sex clarity and satisfaction is a million times greater than having none whatsoever. Masturbation is also pretty quick, but what happens is you do not get as much clarity nor satisfaction because you do not get much pleasure from it. So you will just continue lusting more and more, and won't lust in a healthy manner either.

>>34553166
Don't date just add to your roster

>>34553270
why not

>>34553255
Though, the internet does create a fake external outlet that naturally wouldn't be the case since to see women we would want to be interacting with them, but now with the internet it's possible to see both videos and images and become aroused in situations that we wouldn't be interacting with them, thus leading to much sexual frustration, which is not really natural at all. Women nowadays are very cold because they can just ignore messages from the hundreds of men on online platforms. Porn just exacerbates this.

>shitskin
>look like Chud
>36
>have boring remote job in medium sized city
>British
>never had a gf or been on date
>6'1", recently reached a normal BMI

Is it over for me? I've been a loser my entire life. I am too ugly to ever get matches on dating apps.

I'm giving up on trying to have a relationship. This happens pretty much every time. I will see a girl frequently, she gives a smile and seems warm, I eventually introduce myself and make small chit chat, they usually laugh and ask questions so I think they are receptive, and then the next time I see them they won't look at me and give me the cold shoulder.

I have no idea what I'm doing that causes women to lose interest so quickly that they want to actively avoid me.

>>34553270
If you're posting on 4chan, you don't have a roster.

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I fucking hate simps bruh.
Like straight up you niggas need to die.

>>34553947
You're too ashamed, because you're afraid we'll crash your party and make it worse. In reality, we haven't found a way to make it better and don't know how.

>>34553021
HAVE BALLS

>>34553017
I’m tall and white and when I approach white women they look at the ground or pretend I’m not there.

Is “figuring out my dating goals” code for DTF

>>34553920
Are you on the spectrum? That’s what it was for me

The girl I'm seeing, her mom has a lake house

>>34553920
>then the next time I see them they won't look at me and give me the cold shoulder.

You've already established rapport and you complain she's not slobbering on your dick?

If you're not maintaining interest it's because you're boring. Enrich yourself. But more simply I think you need to get past the idea that women go AWOOOOGA every time they are attracted to a man. You still need to approach and start convos.

You need to switch your goals when you go out. I know Zach and his bullshit, but this will help you. If you go in trying to hook up with the idea in your head "Hey I'm gonna go there and talk to a hot girl" as opposed to being perfectionist like "If I don't get a hot girl I'll be miserable" it'll be a lot easier for you. You got to stand proud and be laid back you got to live everyday okay? My advice is here to help you with painful rejection.

>>34554981
yes
or at least on the date you say "so what are you looking for" and go from there

>>34553017
cope
i do this and it does not work

>>34555683
Ask before the date, if the answer is something along the lines of "I'm just meeting people, seeing where it goes", then you're good to go. Women very rarely openly advertise being DTF on the apps to avoid being swarmed by coomers

i miss high school when this was easy and you could get girls to send you anything. just don't tell THE MF PRINCIPAL AND GET ME SUSPENDED SAMMIE

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Got a 42 year old milf on the hook. Her prompts say she’s looking for a boyfriend, not a life partner. We’re so fucking back.

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There are a bunch of cute customers where I work and some of them seem interested in me. This is the first time this has happened to me. Is trying to exchange numbers at work a bad idea? How do I proceed

>>34556184
Nice banter, but it doesn't work like that for everyone.

Anon, when you go through several attempts at getting a girlfriend and keep failing even into your 40s, you did not find getting women to be impossible, you just found a lot of ways that didn't work.

I went out a few nights ago and really hit it off with a girl while at a bar for country dancing. We danced and talked all night with some great chemistry so I got her instagram at the end of the night and told her I’d like to see her again. I drove home and finally took a long look at her instagram to find her wedding photos and she is very clearly still married which is something that did not come up during our long conversation.

Why do women do this and how would I avoid talking to a married woman in the future?

>>34556627
you were around them all the time and had reasons to talk. if you didn't at least fuck the cute geeky/nerdy/anime girls you messed up. also band/choir were easy targets.

>>34556704
I nearly got charged for stalking anon, and was heavily outcasted. People thought I'd be the next mass murderer on the news or turn into a child molestor. I really give off disturbing vibes anon. So I have to approach women in a more intellectual way than model myself to them.

Like I get the appeal of your banter, but it feels like you are mocking me for struggling. It is like yelling at a homeless man struggling to go get a job.

>>34553633
it never began

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>>34553017
TRVKE
The modern world is the White man's oyster, no matter what /pol/chuds claim. How are White men supposedly discriminated against when the sperm banks have more strict requirements than the SS?

>>34556374
>42
Why

>>34556374
I hate "funny wholesome" banter like this. It's so pathetic. Looks like AI emulating two redditors flirting while following AI safety protocols. Seriously, who the fuck talks like this? I cannot understate how cringe this wholesome chungus shit is. This bitch likely doesn't even get wet anymore, her sexuality is gone, and you're a pathetic fucking beta loser.

>>34555699
Then you're either fat and/or have a busted face.

>>34553052
>I have enough saved that I don't need to work, but I don't have enough that I can go spend frivolously on expensive shit
Does this mean you have to live off canned beans and never travel? Do you plan on having kids?
Being like this you could get in a relationship with an older woman who has also given up on life, I guess.

Dating women is pointless and you don't get anything out of it

>>34556960
My budget allows for more than canned beans, but I don't go out to eat often. Maybe once a month, and nowhere expensive. I can afford to travel occasionally, like I'll be visiting my family this summer for a vacation. Or if someone died unexpectedly and I needed to fly to a funeral, I could do that no problem. But I generally don't like to travel anyway.
And "given up on life" is probably an accurate description. Though I'm not just 100% filling my time with this site and YT and porn. I'm working a lot on some artistic projects I always wanted to do, whether they'll generate any income or not idk though. I don't want children.
My ex said I had no ambition and didn't like that. My goal was always to eventually stop working, where as she wanted to work up the corporate ladder and expected me to do the same, or at least find something "big" outside of work to focus on, like a non-profit. Seems like a lot of effort.
I guess that's my question: are women going to look at me and immediately think "loser"? Or for the few that don't, are they even worth dating anyway? I guess I should start looking around, but I don't want to waste a bunch of time and money going on dates that will suck.

>>34556965
what about the sex??

>>34557052
Probably depends on where you live, I guess? In an urban center most everyone is going to be on the hustle grindset treadmill so it's not a surprise to see that with your ex, women in rural areas might be more open to a slower worry free life.

Not to be a doomfag, but how hopeless is it to try and date women offline of a dating app? Dating apps are fucking awful, and I've tried like 5 of them with a few results, but it feels extremely inconsistent.
What do I need to do to meet more women?

>>34557133
The only times ive met people were through mutual friends or out at social events like bars. I don't have that now or go out obv so if you dont have that you are probably going to have a difficult time meeting someone.

I'm losing hope everyday. Is there a guide for autistic shutin retards on how to get a fucking girlfriend?

What pictures do I need for my dating profile? I rarely take pictures of myself.
I like shit like anime, games, tabletop RPGs, baking, drawing, and going to the gym. I don’t know what I could take for pictures

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What happens if i have no "drive" to get a gf? Am i an übermensch or something? Could it be low test or hormonal issues? I'm skinny.
>inb4 nofap
Already did that once for +3 months. It didn't change anything.

>>34557133
Like I said earlier, it isn't impossible for anyone to get a girlfriend, you just found a lot of ways that didn't work.

>>34557286
Use a good picture of you. It could either be you doing some activity you like, so you can show a part of you from the picture, or just a good picture overall.

>>34557229
Lean more towards being intellectually attractive as opposed to physically, which is really difficult.

>>34557391
This>>34557393

>>34551557
>I can't imagine that working out if you're the employee flirting with the customer; it would be different if you were the customer and felt that she was being particularly attentive to you
>You’re probably not considering that some people are just very respectful and empathetic toward those who work in customer service, and she might not have any special interest in you.
>Trying to ask her out comes off as cringe, and you’ll probably ruin that store for her.
>And who knows, it might even cause problems for you at work if someone finds out you’re flirting with customers.
>I don't want to sound doomer, but desu you haven't given me a single detail to think it's worth trying
I've never actually flirted with her and only kept it professional. This all started with an order she wanted to pick up in early March, but for whatever reason it wasn't done properly twice in a row. On the third time she told me to take one of the extra orders that were printed, we waved goodbye, she said happy Easter, and that was it.
She seemed to be more friendly with me with on the second, third and fourth and fourth time we met, and I decided to be a little more casual on the fourth interaction by asking her how her week was, which was on Mother's day. She was nice, but I'm not assuming she's into me based on just that. The only other thing I can think of was that she constantly tossing or fixing her hair while she was waiting in line and she might've looked at me for a bit, but I was focused with the two other customers I was dealing with. We did chat and joke around a bit and that's all.

>>34557133
You unironically have a 110% better chance IRL than you do on the apps. My buddy forced me to make a hinge and I applied all the things women have said they like about me and its crickets. The cars, the fits, the hobbies, the job, I even lied about my height (I'm a manlet) and still nothing. Dating apps flipped everything upside down

>>34557229
You will have to overcome your anxiety and go outside to meet more people. It’s a process.

>>34556529
Give them your number so they don’t feel pressured

>>34556930
I don’t discriminate. The other girl I’m dating to is 19.

>>34557133
Hopeless? No, but apps don't start working until you pass the primal attraction point, where you have abs and basically looksmaxxed to the degree that women start acting a little crazy around you. It took me two years of dedicated training to get there. Even then, once you ARE that guy, the apps are just a good way to fuck crazy/stupid girls, not find a gf

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Genuinely, is it even worth it to get women?

>>34552196
if i showed up to a date and a woman is dressed like that i'd just leave, but being a brother in Christ i would have to struggle to later kindly voice a word of concern about her attire. if she genuinely saw the error of her ways and were repentant, then we could continue dating, but if at any moment she backslid or seemed to be putting on a show i'd be out.

jews, under the guidance of their father, satan, did this to our culture and have long since even corrupted the Church

>>34557808
Anti-Semitism is cringe bro.

>>34557811
notice this anon does not call me a liar. no, acknowledging the facts and the whole truth is just passé, it's "antisemtic" to hold jews accountable.

>>34557820
That’s because it’s implied. Most anti-Semitism is based on myths about Jews such as slaveowners in the American south having been predominantly Jewish or the having not happened.

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>>34557880
they were the predominate owners of the slave ships and owned far, far more slaves and plantations than whites per capita

and the holohoax wasn't even referred to until long after the war and relied on straight up soviet lies. read all the major books on the war that came out in the 40s and 50s and there's no reference to it.

you don't have to take my word for this stuff or anyone else's, the truth is out there

>>34556960
>in a relationship with an older woman who has also given up on life
need, with big tiddies

>>34557229
Putting the cart before the horse anon, focus on not being an autistic shut-in retard first.

>>34557960
>they were the predominate owners of the slave ships
Yep that’s the myth I mentioned.
>and owned far, far more slaves and plantations than whites per capita
Another myth, and also an irrelevant one as the South’s population was only 1-2% Jewish. The vast majority of southern slaves were owned by non-whites.
>and the holohoax wasn't even referred to until long after the war and relied on straight up soviet lies. read all the major books on the war that came out in the 40s and 50s and there's no reference to it.
Another myth. The holocaust was documented extensively and immediately following the war.

I didn’t need to say the anti-Semitism was based on lies. The lies are baked into the ideology. It can’t stand without them.

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>>34558251
>myth
sure thing bro

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>>34558251
all you need is a calculator, anon

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>>34558251

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>>34557391
>>inb4 nofap
>Already did that once for +3 months. It didn't change anything.
were you working out? you need to get your body moving to maximize testosterone production

start a strength training routine and keep up some degree of nofap and no porn, it helps to reset your desire circuitry

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>>34558342
quitting porn, improving yourself, and escaping zog moral subversion are the first steps to getting a gf

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dating black, asian, or indian women really lowers the bar of entry if you're desperate, but just know you're playing to their plan if you do so

>>34558366
>escaping zog moral subversion
Huh

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>>34558714
it means zionist occupied government, and it's the reason it's so hard to get a gf

>>34558366
>escaping zog moral subversion are
Huh

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>>34558866
slavery, drugs, feminism, porn, godlessness

not all jews, sure. but give no heed to jewish fables, as it is instructed in scripture.

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>>34558892
forgot usury

if we could stop the debasing of our currency then settling down and having kids would be much simpler

Replacing all my prompt answers with random nonsequiters like I'm shitposting on 4chan improved my match rate

I thought this place was for advice on how to get women.

>>34558801
>blaming minorities for not having a gf
Yeah that's the last straw, fuck this thread

>Far too autistic to meet women in public
>Far too ugly/unphotogenic to meet women on dating apps
>Don't want to join a church, I'm not christian
>Only friends are not going to help find someone for me.

Can I just make a post on reddit or take out an ad in a newspaper? Just describe myself and what I'm looking for. What are the unconventional ways to meet people that nobody talks about? I always here about people meeting eachother online in like a game or something. How the fuck does that happen? In 25+ years of gaming I've never had a conversation with anyone online. But I have multiple cousins who have met girlfriends through videogames. How?

>>34559073
Because you're not playing the designated e-dater games like Valo or LoL

>>34559079
I played LoL for a few years. I never had any reason to talk to anyone and no one talked to me. How the hell do you start a relationship in a game like that? The odds of finding someone to talk to are already low, then that person being a female is even lower, then a female who you get along with and you are both attracted to eachother, etc. The odds must be astronomical but it doesn't seem uncommon. I don't see how that happens.

>>34559094
Not dating her but I drove to portland to smash a girl I play cs2 with a few times. I wish she lived closer, shit would be cash.

>>34559094
You play ADC, lane with your support who has a chance of being a girl, then show off your sick carry skills so she asks to duo and then you go from there.

After how many dates would you expect to have sex? My general rule has always been by the 3rd date, MAAYBE stretching it to the 5th if things are going really well but not any longer than that.

My friend says I'm crazy for thinking like that and that you're "just supposed to go with the vibes and enjoy your time together". To me that's retarded. I get the whole meme mentality of women "ohh sex is not everything" and "i need to be comfortable". Sure, but I am not going to spend a ton of money and time going out on 10 dates before you decide to make up your mind. It's not even that I think of dating as a purely transactional medium (it's not) but to me that just shows you are not really attracted to me but rather to the experience of being given attention.

>>34559047
the jews don't want you to get any anon.
see the truth, i'm not even kidding

>>34559359
3 is the latest for me, I don't consider more dates unless she's really hot and worth it. but then again she would smash on the first date if she was really into you.
I usually already set everything up for the 2nd date though. so 3rd is definitely the last call.

>>34559374
I agree with you anon. I'm seeing this girl, first date we hold hands and hug, second date we kiss. After the third date we went to my place and kissed a bit more but she wouldn't go further, saying she has work early tomorrow and has to leave. Now I proposed for the 4th date we <do stuff> and then she can stay over and we spend saturday together too, but she is saying "maybe not yet" and that she has plans to meet friends on saturday. Massive red flag to me, sounds like she obviously doesn't like me enough to not just postpone meeting her friends.

>>34553052
>>34557052
My advice is that you have look for specific dating profiles and to go to specific online communities for people who have retired early, or want to retire early, and not have children. People like you are already rare, so you have narrow your search, there are women out there that want or have already achieved the same life and goals as you.
Trying to date any woman outside of the early retirement lifestyle will be a disaster for you in every way imaginable.

>>34559382
that's the thing that I do different, on the first date I already try to go for the kiss and escalate as much as possible (sometimes going for a ONS directly there, or sex that continues in a small relationship).
If this goes through I already plant the idea of having dinner/drinks at my place for the 2nd date, then I get laid.
So I think you already need to show sexual interest from the get go, else you'll be wasting your time and simply making the process longer.

>>34559382
also to follow up, you can still push for meeting up friday night and she can go to her friends on saturday, if she doesn't want to do that, then you know where you stand

>>34559396
yep that is what I am doing. I just got this feeling that she won't have sex. Which is fine at least I'll know I can just refocus on other girls.

>>34559397
you should always keep a rooster going so if someone flakes on you, you simply go for the other one, plus you run 2-3 dates in parallel per week advancing each one. but obviously this only works if you're somewhat attractive 8+ looks.
but in your case I would try to meet during the week now and simply go for it before friday. Else you snooze you lose

>>34559401
i know bro it's just a pain in the ass innit? It already takes up so much time I'd rather spend training / doing my passionms. And also dates are crazy fucking expensive, I went to an escape room, 1 hour thing, $100. Even if you average $50 a date you end up wasting 2/300 a month

>>34559384
And if you end up truly feeling like you can't find a woman that will mesh well with your lifestyle, then that's what friends and whores are for. Budget in occasionally meeting up with or taking friends out to do shit around town with movies, hikes, festivals, concerts, restaurants, coffee, bars. Invite friends to your home for dinner and conversation and music or movies. And have a budget for escorts to go out with and fuck on occasion. Do not fall in love with the whores. Ez life of a bachelor, no one will think less of you.

>>34559407
bro are you crazy, why would you take them to an escape fucking room.
You just need to hit the bars and let the social lubricant do the rest of the work. I usually try to meet specifically after dinner time so I don't pay for her fucking food and at max get some stupid snacks and drinks, that's it. Effectively you need to take care of your own finances because multiple dates per week are indeed a waste of time and money. So you need to focus on what you're spending and keep it somewhat manageable and within that budget.
Obviously it depends on your income and what you're comfortable in doing, because if you are rich as fuck and you want to play the money game go for it (though you shouldn't reward girls with dinner dates when you're meeting up).
Also, if you're unsure about the person and whether you'll like her, go for a coffee date. You can bail out after seeing her relatively quick and ghost her after, keeping the budget under 10 pounds/usd/euros

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>>34559072
funny, you don't seem to be able to refute any of my claims.

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you think maybe this has something to do with why it's so hard to get a gf?

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be mindful of zogged women who consume too much jewish made subversive goyslop pop culture

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>>34559453
this includes smut books...

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>>34559456
girls don't like downers though so despite the fact that we're in the middle of a 2k year old revenge plot to exterminate whites which most people are hypnotized to ignore, look on the bright side and know that Jesus loves us and calls us to love as well, even our enemies like the jews.

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i'm probably going to get banned for this, surprised i'm not already, so save what you can guys

they hate you and want you dead

train like it

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>>34559359
From 3 to 5 dates, and 5 is really stretching it. So far 4th is the latest date where I've sealed the deal

This time, however, I'm dating a girl who's pretty shy and it's' been 3 dates without even a kiss. Normally I'd call it quits but she's introverted and acts like she likes me so in that case I'm ready to be bit more patient. But I'm already angry with myself for being so lenient

>>34559451
Really? Why is that only white men get dates while brown men like me get zero likes on dating apps and dirty looks IRL if that was the case? You whitoids are entitled and deluded. Whites are the women of races.

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>>34559482
dude

you and your people would probably barely know what a white person looks like if not for jews

everything about mass immigration is to erase the only culture and people that jews feel threatened by

>>34559482
because if you're not white you're a subhuman and you should do a favor for everyone else in the world and at least spare yourself of breeding. there's enough of you disgusting niggers in the whole world.
We're the true minorities, so if anything the only entitled people are you brownies roaming and shitting our streets

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>>34559451
>why it's so hard to get a gf?
It's not actually, it's really easy.
Women want men. Many of them are even desperate.
I think the issue with modern men, especially men who spend a lot of time online, is that a lot of you are socially inept, stunted, immature, retarded and gross.
You guys are also pursuing the wrong women. You're going after the like top 5% or 10% of women. Competing against every guy who talks to them in person or online.
You would have better success if you pursued the average girl next door. Actual girl next door, not the porn star kind. Girls like in pic related.
None of you would approach irl or even bother to message these women's dating profiles, even though your chance of success are much higher with them than going after whatever Stacy you'd normally try to get.

>>34559485
I hate the image you attached
the implied "superior"" race bows for jews

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>>34559486
we're all human and descended from the family of Noah, but our peoples have differing distributions of blessings. when our language was confused after the fall of the tower of babel the human family had to split up and become different cultures that aren't necessarily all compatible for reintegration right this instant.

which is an important consideration when dating outside your culture

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>>34559521
dating the averaged zogged woman in a western country is a recipe for misery. you're right, it's easy, i have 3 numbers recently just given to me out of the blue by women like this but i'm not hitting any of them up because i know we're not compatible and it has nothing to do with appearance. it's how they act and dress.

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>>34559524
>the implied "superior"" race bows for jews
we've been trying to tell you this has been going on forever, anon

>>34559529
i'm not a kike, nor a burger, and I don't bow to jews.
I'm definitely a superior genetically material compared to you and all of you subhumans, so we're not the same.
How do I know? because I can fuck girls and I'm desired and succesful, simply as that. I'm not poor, I'm not small, I'm not overweight, and I'm WHITE, yet I feel the despair that we're getting erased and I cannot do anything about it, except to enjoy the decline and make it on my own.
It's free for all now, we don't have any communities, while you are free to rape us and you collude against us. So yes, fuck you and please don't breed more subhuman midgets, there's enough of you already.

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>>34559539
there's more to life than mogging

if you really mogged me you would know this

>>34559534
if you're /fa/ and /lit/ and /trv/ and clothes, manners, and lifestyle are that important to you then this doesn't apply to you. Your average 4chan user, who probably needs a haircuts, who's standard outfit is sweat pants, vans, and a Nike or Under Armor t-shirt, who's been playing Red Dead Redemption all day is perfectly suited to date your average woman. And the important thing is that these women actually do want just average guys who are functioning adults or young adults.
Instead I see the average 4chan user trying to get girls that look like Emiru or Pinkchyu, or Sophie Thatcher, and not the women I posted here >>34559521

>>34559073
>>Far too ugly/unphotogenic to meet women on dating apps

AI yourself up, thats what I'm doing and it works.

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>>34559551
>girls that look like Emiru or Pinkchyu, or Sophie Thatcher
i've had to dump a few girls this hot

it's never easy

but i feel like all the women i dated would have prevented me from growing into the person i am today

>>34559546
just stating it how it is. and I do carry my own burdens, but I thank God everyday that I'm not worthless trash, that's what makes me continue in this crooked society, else I would have thrown the towel years ago. Good luck to you.
I'm certain I'll make it in due time

>>34559521
are they supposed to be ugly or something? they're all very pretty and I'd feel lucky to have them as gfs. I also dress decently well (plain colored tshirts with a nice jacket, fitting clothes, not fat), take care of my skin and hair, but alas I'm brown.

>>34559582
>are they supposed to be ugly or something?
They are average, not ugly.
Ratings may vary depending on what your personal preferences are.
>I also dress decently well (plain colored tshirts with a nice jacket, fitting clothes, not fat), take care of my skin and hair
Fantastic, and if you've got a flat stomach you are already doing better than a good 60% of men.
>but alas I'm brown.
Doesn't matter at all. These women are single and waiting because they do not get approached. No one sliding into their DMs, no one offering to buy them drinks when they go out, no one making small talk, chatting them up asking about their interests or what they do for work or what they are studying, no one asking them to dance. That's where you come in.

>>34559609
I'll force myself to talk to girls and report back.

>>34559612
For sure. Be funny, make them laugh, share things about yourself and your life, but also actually listen to them and reply to things they say and not just wait for your turn to talk at them. Keep in mind that not every conversation turns into a sexy one night stand. Don't be a dick, be nice. Women just want to make sure you're not an axe murderer.
It really is easy to get these women to date you. Average women. They want male attention, the want to be romanced, they want to be seduced, it's that simple.

>>34559521
Not sure where you're living where this is considered average.

Do you guys think I did anything wrong here? Met a chick last night from a dating app with FWB in her bio, got her to my place and didn't end up fucking or anything

>we match, text back and forth for all day about hobbies, where she's from (Germany born and raised), travel etc.,
> I invite her to hangout at my place 8PM
>she agrees
>says she's been drinking so can't drive
>I pickup her up (2 min away)
>go walk in the park for 30 min, then back to my place to listen to music maybe 30 min swapping songs, offered water/snacks
>she's pretty reserved
>I put a movie on, offer a little massage, she says sure
>go for the kiss, she kisses back, goes well but still kind of reserved
>hands over tits and legs no resistance
>try to lay her down to dryhump, says not wanting anything further
>I say no worries
>took a break, paused movie said lets go to the bedroom, she says not yet no sex
>I say lets go on a walk then
>we walk and then ask if she's actually looking for a FWB and if she's fucked on first dates. She says yes but just not feeling it
>I say that's ok, let me drop you home then 10PM

>>34559725
What are you trying to say? You think these women are below average or above average?

>>34559733
>says she's been drinking so can't drive
>go walk in the park for 30 min, then back to my place to listen to music maybe 30 min swapping songs, offered water/snacks
She needed more alcohol, anon, you sobered her up.

>>34559818
yeah, probably should have offered drinks? What are good go-to drinks to have? I honestly never drink. I just like sex and music.

>>34559853
>probably should have offered drinks?
Yes should have just taken her back to your place immediately and gave her more to drink, and weed if it's legal where you are and she partakes. Not enough to make her it so that she's blitzed our of her mind and can't consent to anything, but she obviously wanted to keep the feel good buzz going while she fucked. Especially if she's a naturally reserved person and alcohol as a social lubricant.
>What are good go-to drinks to have?
At the most basic, keep rum and coke, vodka and orange juice, and a six pack of a cheap or mid priced beer in your place to entertain guests.

>>34559892
yeah, that's a good idea. Do you think it's better to skip movies and stick to music and drinks then?

>>34560025
Music and drinks, or a movie and drinks, both are fine.
You did pretty good with foreplay by offering a massage, kissing, and feeling her up while checking for body language.
Unfortunately she just wasn't in the mood after the walk, and conversation, and the booze wearing off.

>>34560069
Yeah, I usually fuck on the first date with no drinks, even girls looking for a long term thing, but I'm really shocked this chick looking for a FWB, already tipsy, and came straight to my place at 8PM on a saturday wasn't down for anything.
The conversation we had on the walk was pretty fun too. No work work or politics etc, just hobbies and travel and our favorite musicians etc.
Idk, I guess maybe I was too kind and these type of chicks want someone that teases them harder or treats them like shit. She showed me her music and it was all gangster rap kind of stuff.

It's fucking pointless chasing women if you weren't born attractive. I'm not a doomer. You CAN get girls, even beautiful girls with things other than your looks. But be prepared to spend the rest of your life working overtime to hold onto her because you'll always be compensating for not being attractive. It can even be a fulfilling relationship but you'll have to put in a LOT of work. If you're alright with that trade-off then good luck and godspeed.

>>34560111
>Idk, I guess maybe I was too kind and these type of chicks want someone that teases them harder or treats them like shit.
Nah she just wanted to bone while she was drunk, to be honest that's more on her than it is on you, she can always speak up. Offering fun conversation, a walk, good music and food is not being too nice, that's just what good men and women do. One strike out doesn't mean that you should suppress your personality or good manners. This is just more experience for you to add to your already decent knowledge base. And also sometimes you just aren't horny anymore, due to no fault of your date, libidos, or moods, and mental states rise and fall constantly.

>>34560148
She was also older, so it was a MILF situation. Honestly she looked so good she could be a legitimately model in her younger years. Also was from Germany with the accent, so maybe a bit of a cultural difference. I'm from southwest USA. She's recently divorced and pretty much just stuck here for her job.
With that said, I honestly have an easier time with 18-25 year olds. Can't think of any that didn't fuck asap. It's older chicks that just need everything too perfect.

>>34559521
I'm not interested in approaching the top 10% because I know I don't have a shot with them. Since I got my first job last year, I've seen plenty of average to a little above average looking who I considered attractive. I wouldn't approach them because it's unprofessional and I don't have what they want in a man.
We always talk about men having eyes for the cream of the crop women, but the average woman considers the average man unattractive. The average woman is more receptive to good looking men who are looking for easy sex and they strung along by these men in hopes of them one day "seeing the light". Look at this post for example >>34559751. She had no issue with a good looking approaching her after telling anon to never cold approach. It's why shit like looksmaxing went viral. I'm not saying that average looking men don't have a shot, but women will bend over backwards for good looking men.

Should I try to fuck this girl?
I met her a week or two ago and she’s really nice and cute and seems down to earth. We’re supposed to meet up tn at this “bar” I go to a lot and I’d love to have sex with her so I can just get experience. I’ve only had sex twice at my big age and didn’t come either time.
But she has a bunch of face piercings that personally I think are wack. I can see myself dating her still maybe, but there are just a lot of other girls at the place we met without face piercings that I wouldn’t hesitate to date/fuck. Should I wait out for another girl or go for this one? I’m just worried it would make the dynamic weird with her and weird for other women if I just go around trying to fuck multiple different women without commitment.

>>34560240
The never cold approach, never ask a woman out while she's at work school or the gym, debate is just more inflammatory online bullshit that doesn't reflect reality at all. It's perfectly fine to cold approach people irl, use basic manners and common sense, if they are obviously busy with work (especially waitresses and bar tenders who are required to be nice to customers), they are studying, they are in the middle of a workout, they have headphones in then don't interrupt them or try to ask them out. You are trying to chat a random woman up and they are giving one word answers, they turn away from you, then just leave them alone. They say that they have a boyfriend or husband, or they just flat out say no to your offer. Then just say "ah no problem, it was nice talking to you" and fucking leave, like a sane person. Flirting, asking people out on dates, or for their phone number is not a crime or bad behavior, it only gets problematic when people over stay their welcome, and don't know how to take rejection and they get upset and weird about it. Talking to people is how we get mates it's literally the only way we can do it.

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>>34560286
>weird for other women if I just go around trying to fuck multiple different women without commitment
What are you talking about? You had sex twice in your life (so presumably no relationship ever) and you're worrying that other girls at the bar might think you're a player because you've met a girl? Come on anon. If it was some sort a social club or some place for hobbies, then maybe, but even then it's just silly. A girl's interested anon, go for it

>>34553021
Yes, we know that you're too much of a pussy to be a namefag yourself. You're a coward who likes to hide behind that anonymity and shit talks everyone. You would probably pee yourself if you were to meet him irl

>>34560530
Well it’s a sober bar and there are plenty of regulars. Idk how any of this works

>>34559521
>Your standards are too high!!!
Atp i even go after trannies just to have somebody to talk to. You must be a millenial/boomer if you think women are desperate.
Standards of zoomer men for a girlfriend are: Just be a girl (optional)

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>>34560644
>Standards of zoomer men for a girlfriend are: Just be a girl (optional)
thank God i'm a millennial and my taint isn't shrunk

>>34560667
What is the point of posting of all this. Yeah I'm skeptical of the jews too, but take that shit to /pol/ or make a jew hate thread.

>>34559521
All the women you posted are at least 7/10 by American standards just based off of not being fat. The average median American woman is at least 250 pounds, doesn't shower or shave, and is a boring, lazy, mean spirited bitch who treats their partners and everyone else like shit.

Meanwhile, the average median American guy is a nice guy in decent shape who has a slightly thin frame or has a slightly large nose or has boring, flat hair. A 5/10 man in America puts as much effort into their appearance and personality as a 8/10 woman. A 5/10 woman in America puts as much effort into their appearance and personality as a 2/10 man.

Why should an average man who puts effort into their appearance settle for a lazy, fat slob who doesn't shower and treats everyone like shit? It's like telling the girls in your pic to settle for a neckbeard NEET.

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>>34560721
you would have a woman if jews hadn't subverted our culture

it's relevant to the thread

if we buck zog our children and their children can get women so much easier

You know what if you are so hot and come off as gay that women want to experiment with you to find out?

Is it worth it to create an instagram like a dating app? Seen some posts about this, just not sure if it's worth it. From my understanding it's a lot more effort than dating apps

>>34557052
Meh, I don't know, but you do sound boring to me and I'm a man. I don't understand that stuff, why not use all that time and money you got to become even greater and try to build a positive legacy? You're gonna die one day.

>>34560830
Never bothered with it but I imagine you'd need far more than just 4 pictures of yourself, plus some followers to look presentable and most of the women you'd be talking to would be taken or not interested. At least on the apps you put less effort and you know the people on the other side are on the market

>>34560936
yeah I guess getting premium on all the apps is the best effort to reward ratio. I also travel a lot and frequent some irl stuff like sports or farmers markets where I meet girls from time to time

>>34557127
>>34559384
Yeah, I still live in the city I moved to for work, and most of the population is very career-focused. So yeah, I'm probably not going to fit in with any women here. They won't have any interest in me. And the women who work, like, service jobs also don't have any interest in me. I do like living here though, it's nice.
>>34559408
I don't actually have any friends anymore.
>>34560846
Yeah, I'll admit it that I'm a very boring person. And as for building a legacy or whatever, eh. The projects I'm working on (writing, music) I do every almost day, so maybe something will work out. But if not, oh well. It's nice that I have the freedom to work on them and not work.

>>34557229
just keep posting on here I'm sure it'll work out

>>34560830
instagram is the best dating app available in 2026 bar none. you need to get good pictures and a good amount of followers. IG will start recommending people in your area or friends of friends going by your contacts and you can start firing off DMs and follow requests
same rules at tinder/hinge apply: well-lit and angled photos of you dressed well, doing activities, hanging out with people, at travel destinations. only caveat is the posts need to be spaced out reasonably, as in maybe one post every few months. takes longer to build a believable profile because of this but you can start sliding in DMs with one or two posts.
don't be afraid to buy followers either just make sure your ratio makes sense (don't have 1200 followers and 8 following, bitches know you're not a celebrity).

>>34558263
>>34558305
>>34558307
wtf i think the holocaust was a lie now

>>34561665
That sounds way harder than Hinge for probably similar results.

>>34560312
What if you're the worker and you've seen the customer a few times?

>>34556374
She gave me her number quickly and then immediately sent two top half bikini pics unprompted. We already have a date tomorrow evening. She mentioned her kids will be with their dad for the next week. I hope I don’t fuck this up.

>>34556941
And yet, he'll hit that sweet milfussy, and you're here, malding. Only experiencing the cringe part, and not the awesome part where your dick is in a pussy and an asshole and a mouth, it makes it so worth it, saar
Channel your inner Indian you filthy fucker

>>34561822
Yeah seems easier just sticking to Hinge. Literally matched with a cute 20 year old yesterday and invited her to my place later in the week. To do that with IG would take 10x the time to post daily stories, curate reels, show friends and status activities, run follow/unfollow cycles, and maintain a persona that screams "interesting life." All for like a 1% DM conversion rate.
On dating apps it's just the 6-9 pics, pay for premium to show up first/filter out bots, and swiping carefully to maintain a good ELO score so you don't get shown fatties as suggestions. I'm sure it is a bit better but the effort doesn't justify it. You also lose any resemblance of privacy. Your friends, family etc can see the cringe you post on the profile trying to flex just to get some pussy. I see guys do it and it's obviously desperate as fuck.

>>34557391
When’s the last time you went on a date or had a girl like you? I had no drive either til the opportunity was there, then suddenly I had drive again.

>>34561995
Agreed. You just invited her over without a first date away from your place? How does that work? I thought everyone on hinge at least pretended to be looking for a long term relationship.

I am ugly, short, dull (not in terms of hobbies, but in terms of how I convey myself, plus also being low IQ), and abrasive in person (though I come off as more agreeable on-line). I am somewhat in shape, but not muscle bound. How do I compensate for this with minimal physical effort?

I was thinking of a glider license and later working on a pilot's license. I think that I would enjoy it and gliders are quite cheap right now (the model I want is $7-9k used typically, but only seats one).

>>34562211
Looksmaxxing is not optional. I’d also read some books on personality just so you know what rules you may be breaking. You should still bee yourself, but also as socially aware as you can be.

>>34559521
Only top left and top right are ok.

34 year old khhv, finally got my health back, learned to drive and swim and finished HS. Now I wanna start kissing and dating, finally got my first erection etc. But where to meet women that will understand my plight, I dont want used up roasts.

>>34562258
I dress well, but otherwise, I would need my entire face reconstructed and to hide scars from when I pissed off the wrong people when I was 12... :/ I have already had 9 years and $70k invested in dental work so I am lot a snaggle-tooth, but my face is wide even at the lower end of being a healthy weight for me. Easiest thing that I could probably wear a hat and always keep my shirt on unless swimming (I swim frequently).

I know what is wrong, I am silent and have a death glare. I speak abruptly and softly and easily lose my temper after being told to repeat myself, but how do I fix this?

>>34562294
Wow. It's been a long time since I've been on this thread. Updates since then is that i've added 1 to my bodycount now, most successful date ever. Fucked the girl the same date. But I realised i don't really like casual sex that much and just want a relationship. Unfortunately, seems like I can never get anywhere in that regard, I try dating apps, singles groups etc with no dice. It seems like the only luck I ever have is with casual stuff. Eveytime I meet a girl irl and even if it seems like we vibed irl, they always give me half assed answers or take ages to respond. I'm now 27 and i've never had a gf, tho my bodycount is 3.

>>34552196
>meet girl at college party
>find out we're from the same (out of state) area
>keep running into her at various events
>dance w her and kiss her right before finals kick up
>we text a couple times but she's busy studying and we can't set anything up
>friends and i run into her at the library a couple times so she's probably not just blowing me off
>agree to meet up this summer as we'll both be home
it's been three weeks and neither of us has texted the other since. is it too late to do anything about this? kinda losing interest myself, but i wouldn't mind something casual for the next few months..

>>34562801
You've got nothing to lose here

>>34562166
I invite to cook something. She had only long term relationship on her profile. I thought it would be a long shot, but she said she'd love it. It's also an hour and a half drive from her lol. I'm guessing I'm just exactly her type and luckily she's exactly mine.
Got another chick who's 26 who pretty much looks the same as her off Tinder who had long term open to short that's coming straight to my place today as well, driving the same distance lol
I personally never go on dates. I just invite them straight over.

>>34560770
What accounts for the Jewish population of Russia magic'ing its way back up to 5 million in 1940?

>>34562860
they annexed eastern Poland, Baltics, Bessarabia in 1939-1940

>>34559733
What app?

>>34563135
Feeld. First time meeting from it

>>34562837
Damn. Do you look like gigachad or just have a silver tongue?

First date is already scheduled but she keeps texting and replying to me instantaneously. I usually hold off on texting after the date is inked so we can talk in person. What do? Just take an hour or two to reply?

>>34563150
I'm good enough looking to be a fuckboy, my profile is optimized so it looks I have a fun well off life (it is), and I'm pretty charming/interesting to talk to. I mainly say the same shit every time - compliment with name, get to know where they're from, hobbies, travel, ask out my place, setup an exact day, get number, share stuff from my day to day up to seeing them

>>34552196
>how to get women

lmao what's with the 2014 pua shit on this board. be tall and / or attractive. that is it. this is how you get women.

>>34563172
if a chad never talks to any girls or goes out anywhere, is he going to get women? Let alone girls his own looksmatch?

>>34563164
>compliment with name
what did he mean by this

>>34563392
He meant "You have great knockers, Alice."

>>34552859
Sesame sticks

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I've been on fetlife for ages and mostly just bicker about politics, an older woman in my area is unironically looking for no strings attached dick and we hit it off pretty well, I'm going to invite her for coffee and try to fuck her. This is great because I'm really bad with people, I grew up with a narc mom and a pussy dad so I have trouble dealing with people who aren't insane, they instilled a sense of sexual shame and I'm pretty sure they were trying to make me gay, so the "Hi, I like penis" kind of women are a big relief.

The problem is, it's been a while, I'm an incel (in the literal sense, not the mgtow faggotry) with a massive libido (hence the occasional sex... I'm just THAT horny.) and I spend a lot of time beating off to disgusting porn on the internet, plus due to anxiety I sometimes can't get it up, or get it up and can't cum (which is kind of cool, but not when she wants to suck you off).

Any tips for someone who hasn't fugged in a while?

>>34562290
It isn't so much meeting them, it's getting to know them that is better. When you meet a hot girl, you meet her to talk to her like any other person. You need to build things up with people. Look you probably have an unfair advantage. You playing the dating game is like having to play counter strike against a lot of cheaters, and these cheaters are like the 10 out of 10s who mock you in this dating game, but you got to do it the traditional way your dad told you. It is hard as hell, but it is worth it in the end. You can use resources if you need to, but being yourself is gonna work. You'll impress her by being an honest decent guy compared to all the other guys who will use her. Does that mean you'll win automatically? No, because you're going against cheaters, but if you play it right you can beat the cheaters.

Best thing you can do when communicating is see through people's emotions and be patient with yourself and them at the same time, even if it means you have to do it more than the average individual.

>>34564050
is fetlife worth it lol everyone I knew in college who used it was an uggo but at least they got laid

Just go out and be a regular at like 2-3 places as many nights a week as you can.

Looksmaxx.

Literally just find ways to look comfortable or enjoy yourself alone.

Literally just be honest and real.

>>34552196
The fuck is a woman

The next time one of these clusterfucks you encounter happens again. Just remember you have your moments and women have their moments, and it all is just a part of being human. No one is perfect and everyone makes mistakes, it is okay and you are okay.

>>34564312
Also be calm or emotionally appropriate.

And when you go out to parties or events, the reason why some women are very selective is that they are very introverted and only prefer being around people they are familiar with, so it isn't so much you are an awful person, but rather you are an outsider to the group and you need to build things up, or that this social group has way too many preferences and it isn't your thing. Women I find usually tend to be more introverted and want to deal less with people than men. You're not dealing with a mean bitch, you're dealing with someone who you need to be patient with and slowly build things with.

>>34557133
make more guy friends
in any way possible
once you can make friends you will be invited places
once you go places, you can talk to girls

even fucking nerdy friends that invite you to video game conventions ets you out of your house and in the vicinity of women.
everytime you go out, you have an opportunity to meet someone.

If you say hi and start a normal conversation with enough women, ask for contact info, keep in touch. You are bound to succeed

I’m insecure because I’m don’t feel masculine enough. I’m 6’1 black guy but when you actually talk to me I have the personality and voice of a white hipster. This appeals to virtually no women and is a tough sell. I feel pressured to attempt to keep the composure of how you’d expect a black guy to be but I irreversibly messed that up and I think its affecting my chances

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Is asexuality real? Have any of you dealt with a girl who said she was asexual?

>>34564494
She'll impress your mother when she feels glad you're with an educated woman, but she will be impossible to please. Not worth it in my opinion. Try to get a girl who is a bit more party and less JaidenAnimations.

>>34564479
Look through women's emotions okay? These tough shells can be great people if you get to know them, but you must not let how she doesn't fit a princess get to you, alright? Imagine her going through stressful days at work and trying to regulate herself by having a quiet moment with friends with a calming margarita. She can be your girlfriend, but you got to keep a cool-head with her. That means not jumping in all overly euthanistic or getting self-defeatist or getting defensive when she has one of her moods. Women have tough shells because they have to deal with assholes everyday, and men can have it too.

>>34564479
have you tried hipster chicks? They think they owe you for being born with white privilege. Boning you would be like paying indulgence on their sins on top of whatever else you bring to the table (looks, personality etc.)

>>34564294
Well like I said there's some political pages, it's one of the few websites that aren't completely dominated by one viewpoint or the other... then an older lady with nice milkers followed a bunch of people in the area and I grabbed the brass ring.

I have gotten laid there before, and yes a lot of the girls aren't so hot, but they are freaky, and if your problem is that you don't understand things like flirtation and courtship like mine is, it helps a lot to know that the person on the other end has their mind in the gutter.

>>34564494
wtf is ENM?

>>34564621
Ethically non-monogamous, it means you are dating someone but you both see other people on the side/date/fuck but you are both okay with it and don’t hide it from each other. Basically polyamory

>>34564593
I know a fair share but they all really are in relationships and the ones that aren’t I’m not really their type

with the current state of my life and having to come to terms with the fact that i will be disabled for the rest of my life and thus be unable to financially provide for a family or teach my kid to ride a bike or find a girl that will want the loser that can't walk and is depressed 24/7 suicide is really starting to look nice. games arent even fun anymore. nothing is. girl i actually liked left me. idk. none of this seems worth it when every dumb conversation with a girl is the same.

>>34559521
1 and 2 are fine, but the rest of those are not my looksmatch. You are the retarded if you think any of the other ones are worth my time at all. That being said. stop pretending like men have a choice. Look at their fucking faces for fuck's sake. They are all miserable and spiteful, which means they will be miserable and spiteful when you talk to them. Allow me to explain, when you're very attractive, they are "desperate" for you, but only with that "very attractive" checkbox ticked. If you are not, they will be brutal to you. All six women are about equal difficulty to get with. No, they do not look the same. Also, you are delusional if you think getting with them is not the same difficulty as getting with a 9 or 10. You still have to be very attractive, put in the work to get with them, work through their terrible personalities (let's be frank here, theirs is even worse than Stacy, but it won't show until they are disappointed with you, which there is a high chance given their instability and insecurities).

>>34564494
I once matched with a girl and after we've talked for a bit I've noticed she added "asexual, bisexual" to her profile. I asked her about it and she said she's asexual, but willing to be in a relationship with either gender (so I guess she meant biromantic). I stopped messaging but kept the match. Some time later she got rid of the asexual/bisexual thing. Unless you're asexual yourself (which you aren't) don't bother

>>34561893
Good lad. Break a leg, anon.

>>34553633
>Shitskin
>British
Partly truth, partly fiction

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>>34564494
"Asexual" typically means deep seated trauma, does she have prey eyes too, anon?

>>34552196
I need help, I'm a military anon, 23, who recently moved to the opposite side of the country, Los Angeles.
I have historically been socially detached from everyone, even prior to the military. I've only ever had a "girlfriend" once, it was more of a meal pass dynamic but I had fun so it's okay. I don't know how to interact with people and everyone can tell, people think I'm gay because how little signs of attraction I give off and my general behavior.
How do I become someone worth texting first, much less inviting to hang out, or even date? I'm not unfit or ungroomed, just weird.
P.S: I've had multiple trans friends try to groom me into their ideology but it's just not my cup of tea, I can't even justify getting a tattoo, much less a sex change lol

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Alright, don't really get this girl:
>met her through volunteering but only got close this year
>we start getting playful and tease each other
>on group diners, events and night outs she touches me etc
>we did a group hike and she was latching onto me the whole time, people thought we were a couple
>ffw a few weeks SHE mentions we should both for on a hike
>we go and SHE gets playful and touchy, and I eventually grab her and kiss her, by the river bank
>it was just a peck on the lips, but she sort of didn't engage and avoid it further
>but she immediately locked her arms around my neck and hugged me?
>ohwellmaybeshe'snotintoit.gif
>I kind of back off.
>just moments after she playfully jumps on my back while I'm sitting down?
>then just sort of lays on top of me for half an hour
>She eventually sits with her back facing my chest, and I hug her. My boner is touching her back. I'm sure.
>Drop her off at home, and she says she enjoyed it very much. but she's weird and never gives me a goodbye hug or kiss...
>don't text her for a week, to see if she initiates anhinga, or wishes to hangout again.
>nothing, whatever fuck you .
>this weekend we had another volunteering activity during the weekend and she was there.
>I don't seek her out, but she comes around and starts the same playful teasing and getting close to me. She sits near me most times.
>I sort of tried to avoid it, and was talking to other girls and sitting next to them instead.
>At night, since she was latching onto me, I asked her if she wanted to talk about serious stuff, ie: what had happened last weekend on the hike.
>She shrugged it off playfully.

I don't really have patience for a 5/10 acting like this. She's 22 and I'm 31.
I think it could be that she's doing Erasmus this August for 6 months in Finland, and I think she doesn't want to get into anything here. At this point I think it's just attention and validation. So I'll continue to disengage and not feed it.

>>34559461
White extermination is happening in Ohio it’s Hispanics larping as white. White teens are rare.

>Text with girl for a couple of months
>Everything is great, she's really nice, and we get on really well
>Meet her irl
>Neither of us feel anything

How does this happen? I was secretly hoping she said she felt like that too because I hate being the bad guy, but it always feels strange. Maybe we were just both disappointed physically.

>>34565190
> I eventually grab her and kiss her, by the river bank
>t she sort of didn't engage and avoid it further
That's all you need to know. Plus I can see you've already got things figured out

>>34565293
There's a very good reason why you should meet with a girl as soon as possible. Texting almost never translates into reality, the moment you meet her for the first time is like starting from a scratch. Also why would you text for months without meeting?

>>34565300
I do always try to meet as soon as possible because I know from experience after a certain point any "spark" seems to disappear and you just turn into texting buddies until one of you stops replying.
>Also why would you text for months without meeting?
It was mostly work being in the way and when it wasn't she was going on holiday for two weeks. Even though it took ages to meet, the meet was still rushed. I was in no shape to be meeting anyone when I did and she was the same. I knew it was going to be a failure before I arrived, but I wanted it out of the way at the same time.

>>34565312
If she uses work as an excuse it means she’s not interested. I realized that women will literally lose sleep or call off work just to be with someone they are attracted to.

idk if this is my autism but does it make sense to reverse engineer the type of woman you want? if you're a farmer and you really like hood chicks, sitting around isn't going to make it happen. imagine you find out hood chicks like to smoke, now you know you've gotta learn how to roll a blunt, hang at smoke shops, etc

>>34564494
just means she had sex with someone really ugly to her

>>34565343
I should have clarified that it was my work not hers kek.

>>34565392
NTA but check your priorities anon

>>34565373
It's a meme like personality types, mental health and multiple genders. It's not real and only for attention.

Is dating worth it as a 6/10? I'm above average in looks, getting dates easily, but I'm just burnt out on flakes, logistics, girls using me as an emotional sponge, finding out they have baggage or a hookup phase etc. I feel at this point maybe I'm better off coping being alone. It's not worth the effort to get something casual/FWB compared to just seeing an escort and it's not worth the trouble trying to find a wife material chick in USA at least.

>>34565401
Honestly I'm not sure what's wrong with me. It's more like once I know someone is interested I just stop caring. I seem to enjoy the thrill of the chase more than anything else.
It's not really like the ego boost thing people do when they want dating app (you)s neither.
None of it makes much sense to me because when I was younger all I wanted was a cute gf who I could spend forever and ever with.
I got my heart absolutely broken a couple of years ago, which was nothing new, but since then I give absolutely zero shits. If anything the more someone starts liking me the less time I have for them. It's almost like I feel I've "won" and therefore there's no reason to carry on. I'm not even interested in fucking them sometimes and flat out turn them down.
Not even joking, I'm seriously considering getting a blood test for low T because I know this isn't normal.

How do I, a balding 5'8, skinny fat brown manlet acquire a woman?

>>34565545
you need a fat brown short woman probably in a third world country

Breaking up with this girl tonight at dinner, wish me luck frens

>>34565883
don't do that you sick fuck, not like that.
why would you go and have dinner with a girl, which is a nice outing for her, only to hit her with "we're done bitch" on a public place? It's really mean.
just meet her on an afternoon and say we need to talk.

>>34553942
Says who? The 4chan guy who guarantees ur rules are followed lol?? That's ur problem incels and all this shit stems from you all not being able to take a chance and u always want guaranteed outcomes so u stifle your own life

>>34558251
Even if all of this is true antisemites need to make a clear distinction between living in a fantasy where Jewish people run the world and it gives their life meaning of cohesion and reality because there are other groups like the family, LDS, cartel, breakaway CIA assets, christian cults, who have direct pipelines to the highest layers of government but of course Jewish people are especially hated but not because of reality but because they guarantee you meaning and are a part of your cohesive world view. "The Jews are the secret enjoyers of capitalism etc etc etc" which only serves actual zionists ironically.

>>34559521
It's not really even that gang because it's just most people don't want to take a chance so instead of getting rejected they like pathologize and ruminate and try to guarantee and outcome which is the start of obsession and madness that's why u get stuff like lookism improooovism nofap, all this shit is just an attempt to guarantee an outcome but there will never be a gurantee it's an attempt to preserve the fantasy that u can fuck a bitch

>>34564890
Indian coded and virgin coded

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Do I have to just spam retarded questions on the apps in order to get people to talk? No matter who starts the convo after a match I'll reply and comment about something on their profile and its crickets, but if I straight up ask a dumb question I'll get a response
>say "I always wanted to try [insert hobby here]"
>...
>ask "is [insert hobby here] fun?"
>OMG YES
I feel like the first question actually allows them to open up and say "really?! its so fun!" but the second one is as if I was born two minutes ago and leads to another dead end

I can have sex almost anytime, but I can't get any specific girl to stay.
Feels bad, like grieving bc some of these girls are actually pretty cool.

What I want you all to do next time when you try to hook up with women is be vulnerable about being someone who had his moments and understand when you make mistakes it is a part of being human, okay?

>>34565190
>She's 22 and I'm 31
kys literal fucking pedo.

>>34557286
>Baking
Post a pic of yourself sharing your work with your friends. Hits a two-for-one combo of photo of you and your interest while showing that you're not a loner.
>Bonus if one of your pals has a dog, ask them to bring it to one of your hangouts with your baked goods

I had a 4 hour hinge first date today, my longest first date ever. Ended with light kissing and cuddling on a park bench. Actually felt like there could be a relationship here. We have another date Friday.

My question is… what do I do now? I haven’t begun a relationship since 2013 in college. Obviously I want to have sex with her but I don’t want to be too fast (or too slow) on that front. I don’t think she’s religious (at least she doesn’t advertise if she is).

You’re such an attractive young woman… I’m gay but I can definitely see her beauty, comprised of her personality as well as her looks

>>34567661
Well, what's the problem here, she's already attracted to you? Try bringing her over to your place, if she says no, no biggie. If she does come over, sit her down on a couch, and start playing with her hair, then go for a kiss (shouldn't be a problem since you've already kissed). Start kissing her neck and touching her body, starting with "safe" areas and then gradually going for more private parts. If she's not stopping you at any point, you're good to go. If she stops you, don't get pissy or petulant, try again next time

>>34567223
I'll rather stab another antifa member and get away with it(again)

I’m only attracted to my own race as long as they aren’t fat or have that permanent tanned orange skin, but there’s hardly any white teens anymore. And everyone on social media seems to be happy that whites are going extinct.

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>>34567223
>can vote
>work
>drink
>can't pick who she dates?
lmao cope harder

Texted a girl about grabbing drinks last week after she got back from being out of town but was a little vague on actually making plans and she didn't respond. Best way to double text and Hail Mary it for this weekend? She was honestly too cute to give up on easily.

>>34568328
Ask her if she wants to go to X on Saturday at 7 pm

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>>34568328
again, if you ask a girl out, with a specific time and place and SHE DOES NOT BOTHER TO RESCHEDULE, it's literally over.

Should I hire some photograph dude for dating app pics? Is there even something like this? I have no good pictures of me except some shitty mirror selfies

>>34560751
This is giga-cope. The average median American man is just as fat, slovenly, and lazy as the average woman. You people deserve each other but each group (hilariously and incorrectly) believes they're too good for the other.

>>34568395
It'll look tryhard desu, like a guy who can't take a decent selfie and doesn't have friends to take a photo of him. I have selfies only and get by

>>34568398
Absolute cope, mostly coming from libtards and Mexicans. You're talking about 40-50 year olds at best. USA(white men) mogs so hard that evil(minorities and females) can't help but seethe.

>>34568382
>with a specific time and
the problem was I didn't do this and she just didn't end up responding.

>had 2 10-hr dates with girl I've been seeing for 2 months and lives 90min from me
Is it too early to suggest that we be boyfriend/gf. I'm 31 she's 33 so we're not young and dating seriously for marriage. Friends set us up

>>34568828
She's also a nice Christian girl and we kissed for the first time on Saturday. I haven't kissed a girl in over 3 years. I want to make out but she gives a little peck. How do I make her a kiss slut?

>>34568092
Cool thanks. I forgot she rubbed my inner thigh a little when we were cuddling so I think I’m good to try. One of her hinge prompts was that she wanted to “dance in the refrigerator light” (Taylor Swift style) so I think I’ll ask her to come back to do that.

>>34568179
Everyone on the internet says dating teens is creepy, but I see non whites with teen white girls, so how do I date one? I’ve been wanting to since I was 13 but now I don’t know how to approach, being my age.

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Be a guy who goes with the flow not get it perfect all the time, don't even get things like this perfect all the time.

>>34569768
How do I go with the flow when looking for legal teens in my 30s? I’m a virgin and don’t have adult interests like drugs, partying and alcohol.

>>34569919
Be a chill laid back dude. But also be careful when dating those girls. Trying to date a 22 year old would be better for you.

>>34569985
But I don’t like old wrinkly skin hags and tattoos and piercings and again, no alcohol. If she can legally buy alcohol she’s going to be drinking a lot.

>>34568312
voting, working, and drinking don't involve someone with more experience and power manipulating a woman to gain access to her body.

Who Is Zach

>>34568837
Anyone?

>>34570269
He has sex with brown women because he can’t get white women, search his trip in the archive

>>34565918
Ok, this is /htgwg/ right?
Who runs the dating app monopoly?
Who runs Onlyfans?
Who runs the porn industry?
Breakaway CIA assets my ass.

>>34568641
>I phrased the wish wrong and the genie vanished in a puff of smoke
If that's what you're dealing with, it never began.

>>34570611
Match Group, Inc. is an American internet and technology company headquartered in Dallas, Texas.[2] It owns and operates the largest global portfolio of popular online dating services including Tinder, Match.com, Meetic, OkCupid, Hinge, Plenty of Fish, Azar, and other dating global brands.

Tim Stokely was born in Harlow,[1] Essex,[2] in July 1983, the youngest of four children of Guy Stokely, a retired ex-Barclays investment banker. He has a degree from Anglia Ruskin University.[3]

No single person or group runs the entire porn industry.

This is the aforementioned myth again, which serves to give your life meaning as >>34565918 noted.

>>34570738
>Match Group
>investment banker
>No single person or group
What a debunking, surely that's the end of the story.
>implying my life has meaning

>>34570770
>even if they’re not jews they’re jews because I need a scapegoat. I just do okay?

Instead of trying to be a hot sexy guy. Just try to have a decently good time with a woman you find attractive.

>>34570914
I agree regarding muscle mass, but not everything else. Looksmaxxing was life changing for me. When girls see what I looked like before I looksmaxxed they often say “I don’t think I would have dated you back then.”

>>34570914
Every woman I find attractive ghosts me or rejects me right away

I forgot to have sex (actual act, not foreplay). QRD? How long is it supposed to last?

>>34570823
>>34570738
>>34565918
Jews arent the cause for everything, however you are being deliberately misleading if you deny that jews were disproportionately influential in second wave feminism and the abortion movement; which in turn has lead to this modern day dating hell.
I dont hate jews I just hate how their religion encourages subverting society for their own tribes self gain. This is seen in shit like the Apollo Affair or the Pollard Affair.

>>34571481
In other words, lots of people and groups have been responsible for the problems you recognize, but you only choose to sperg out about one of them. This is because you personally need a scapegoat, and Jews are perfect for this, as they always have been. Instead of being original with your scapegoat you chose to be a basic bitch. I’m guessing you aren’t near as excited to give Jews credit for being disproportionately represented in scientific achievements.

>>34571457
Until she comes, in which case you come

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>>34571496
>lots of people and groups have been responsible for the problems you recognize, but you only choose to sperg out about one of them
I dislike the useful idiots that push for these movements as well. However, jews as a whole are more culturally inclined for this type of advocacy and there is a very recognizable pattern of their involvement. Their culture/religion has been greatly influenced by living under the yoke of christian society for over a thousand years, which has led them to being quite unified when the opportunity arises to dismantle the status quo of the society that has repressed them for so long. Its completely understandable why they detest christianity and goys, however, it becomes a problem when they come into power and it becomes socially unacceptable to point this out.
>rest of your post
Come on, dude.

>>34571619
Wow, you did it! Anti-semitism has been cured by your smarmy, stupid post!

>>34571619
Who do you think you're kidding here rabbi? People have hated Jews for millennia for good reason. Do you think all of these people who weren't in contact with each other were using some kind of antisemitic telekinesis or did they just all coincidentally come up with the same scapegoat?
I'm not even the anon you're replying to, but I can't stand you parasites. The lack of self-awareness of a Jew calling *anyone* cowardly is fucking laughable.

>>34571655
It's obvious he's a Jew, but he'll never admit it. They never do. That's because it's everyone else who's the coward.

>>34571656
>>34571655
Hands with timestamps, please. Within the next two minutes so you can't AI edit it.

How am I supposed to get better at talking to women and going on dates if there aren’t any women around here to do that with? against my choice I had to move to the suburbs a year ago, and I’m surrounded by either kids, minorities or senior citizens. The 20-35 range is nearly non existent. When I look up activities groups it’s stuff like senior citizens hiking and geriatric yoga. Downtown is now 30 miles from me so it’s not easy to to hide show up in the city like it used to be

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>>34571481
They are the reason there’s no more white teens

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>>34571782
jews won

I'm sorry I'm new here but I just need to let it out.
I've fallen for this coworker of mine and I can't stop. She is my limerent object.
>dated in high school
>didn't work out like most high school relationships
>got over it quickly
>life went on, many things happened and couldn't get into any relationship
>had some crushes but the feeling wasn't strong enough and my life was also a mess.
>got a job and got it together
>went on several dates but could not commit to any relationship because I had no feels for them
>got a new coworker last month
>first impression was that she was cute, but that was it
>we barely talked
>she gradually grew on me, but still on a "crush" level
Then I heard rumor about her being with some man. But she is known to be single within her circle of friends.
This was the start of my limerence. It was 2 weeks ago. I couldn't get anything done that weekend. All I could think of was her. My heart feels heavy much like a breakup or when I'm being depressed. It was much like teenage love when I was a hormonal teenager but with the constant aching.
I learned to cope with my loneliness during my dark period by having hobbies (TV shows, anime, manga, gaming,...) but no one has ever occupied my mind this much. If 0 is I don't think of her and 10 is I always think about her, normal women are 0, crushes I had in the past were 2 and my limerent object is 10.
Love at work is troublesome but I can manage. I'm not fat but not too fit either. I do try my best to look good but I'm a 6/10 on a good day. She's quite popular. I know at least 2 guys are already hitting on her. And I don't think she's interested in me.
(cont)

>>34571786 (cont)
The way I see it I have two ways out.
First, fuck off to a new job. Time heals all wounds. This is a pussy move.
Second, ask her out. Rejection may stop my limerence but there is a good chance I'll have to find a new job if I can't get over her. The possibility of rejection is very high though.
Long story short, what should I do to win her love?
I'm not a good speaker. My conversation with her tends to cut short because I can't carry a conversation for shit (funny because I had dates that I could talk just find, they were just not my type). So we're not compatible conversation-wise. So I want to ask her out on a date but if she rejects me it's the end and I don't want that.
Thank you for putting up with my faggotry. I'm just hopelessly under her love spell.

>>34571655
>>34571656
Its a shame, I was writing a good faith response to that post before he deleted it. He has shown his true colors so there is no point in derailing this thread further, we all know what's up lol.
>>34571751
Its hard to meet people in the suburbs but there are still women around. There is definitely a bar in your area that younger people frequent you just gotta figure it out where it is. You can also try going to church and doing activities through there ie volunteering. Ive heard running clubs are a good place to meet women, which is why ive been improving my running so I can join one lol. Making small talk with cashiers is also a good way to improve your skills.

>>34571481
>>34571782
>>34571785
look up the bildenberg group
led by jews, they decided in the 60s or 70s that the world was at risk of overpopulation. so they created the modern environment which ruins dating so women dont have kids

>>34571817
jews also made women think they needed to join the workforce as a way to get rid of families.

>>34571276
So you disagree with trying to have a good time?

>>34571554
Are you supposed to be under the covers or on top of them (bed is made)?

>>34571782
This "speech" was proven to be a hoax in the 1950s. Another myth. See
>>34558251
>The lies are baked into the ideology. It can’t stand without them.

Anti-semites do not reason. They begin with an emotion (hate) and then construct myths (in the form of dubious images) to justify that emotion.

>>34571865
When? They only worked because they had to. At least back in the 80s places that underpaid women would let them bring their babies or they had childcare collectives or some shit. Then something happened where one wage wasn't enough and forced them to go to a work that wouldnt provide childcare. I just don't know what happened in between and why they moved from neighborhood support to $$childcare. Somewhere maybe late 90s or early 00s lower class women were forced to work, when once it was only rich educated women. And then somewhere too they were memed into going to uni rather than working shit jobs or staying at home, except the lower class picked shit like liberal arts rather than engineering.

Its all watered down observations, so I hope someone educated can help out. I think this anon is wrong saying women needed to join the workforce, they were forced and never really wanted to even now. I really do believe a woman will always value being taken care of and pampered/doing shit for a living, just look at reddit full of OF retards, the few that do seek independent sustenance are rare

>>34572415
Virtually all of your premises are wrong and it seemed to be based on uninformed internet memes that just float around. This line in particular stands out as grossly wrong:
>Somewhere maybe late 90s or early 00s lower class women were forced to work, when once it was only rich educated women
It was the complete opposite for obvious reasons - lower class women needed to work to make money and upper class women did not.

The internet likes to believe there was a utopian era known as the 1950s when everyone had a house and a car and only the man needed to work. Conservatives credit traditional values for this supposed paradise, while liberals attribute it to the 95% marginal tax rate on the highest earners. In reality, women's labor participation reached all time highs (to that point) in the 50s. This was due to several factors. Among the most important are:

1. New household appliances significantly reduced the amount of time needed to maintain a household. It's another myth that women were ever just sitting idle. They may not have been paid, but homemaking in those days was a full-time job itself.
2. WWII production demonstrated exactly how much potential women in the workplace wielded.
3. The post-war boom ("golden age of capitalism") demanding more labor to function, especially in white collar roles women would be suited for.
4. Universities opening their doors to more women for various reasons; educated women often wanted to actually use their degrees to work.
5. Increasing mechanization opened even blue collar roles to women.

So basically women weren't working for the first time, they were changing where their work was performed.

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>>34572415
>>34572523
>I just don't know what happened in between and why they moved from neighborhood support to $$childcare.
Now this did happen among the lower class, and the reasons why are complex and tragic. To put it simply, the neighborhoods changed. I recommend reading pic related for some great insight on the change. Here are a few reasons:
1. Increasing drug use, especially among the lower classes.
2. Increasing violent crime, especially among the lower classes.
3. Suburbanization and urban flight making neighbors fewer and farther between, often removing them completely. What families remained in cities were typically poorer.
4. Freeways and gentrification cutting into what urban neighborhoods remained.

>>34572415
>>34572524
>So basically women weren't working for the first time, they were changing where their work was performed.
Thanks anon, your post was what I was looking for. I'll check out the book.

I have one question, why did this happen here? Because of US being a superpower where what we do here trickles down to other countries ? Why destroy the family? I grew up with minorities who still had traditional values, had extended family, and a few as adults didn't fall for the nuclear family meme and still have their own community support or at least extended family help. In my government class our prof essentially said this country was built by the wealthy for the wealthy but I never really saw it

>>34572415
Women joining the workforce lowered men’s salaries by half AKA everyone got paid less meaning if a woman marries a man she has to also work a full time job making it impossible to raise a child. It’s all planned.

>>34572523
I don't own a washing machine or dishwasher, nor a vacuum. I wash everything by hand and sweep and mop. It doesn't take much time or effort. I also only cook on cast iron or a grill, no microwaves, airfryers, or anything of that sort. The notion that being a homemaker is some sort of herculean task is nonsense. Also women started entering the workforce in droves, then children started being neglected and turning to degeneracy and drugs and the economy started perpetually crashing every decade or every other decade. Women working ruins everything.

>>34572524
1. The CIA and minorities
2. Minorities
3. Minorities
4. Minorities

>gee, I wonder what's ruining America?

>>34571786
>>34571787
I'm pretty much in the same boat but with a girl who lives nearby. Honestly the best thing you can do is just drop the daydreams and get obsessed over something else, literally anything, the next interaction will feel a little bit more natural and you won't be sweating bullets and shaking, treat it as if you think she's cool enough to know about your autistic knowledge about whatever it is you choose and you're putting her on game. I haven't had my chance yet but that's what I'm going with

>>34572800
Whites are actually a minority in countries that were made for whites only. Whites are a global minority.

>>34572971
I am aware, but I was using common vernacular

Yall tomorrow is my last day at my job and there's this really cute girl there that I'm pretty sure is interested in me. Went out of her way to introduce herself on my break and then we talked for the whole work day until I clocked out. Problem is, is that we talked only once. Any other time we saw eachother was when I was clocking out and she was clocking in and we just gave eachother a brief gretting. To add to it, I also feel like I made her feel akward one time by apologizing to much for accidently calling her 'Princess' instead of 'Queen' like she told me too. So here's my question.
IF I DO see her tomorrow, should I ask for her number before I leave or should I just give my final goodbyes? We also share a co-worker group chat so IF I DON'T see her tomorrow, should I DM a some friends I did make their and see if they can get her number for me or is that trying too hard?

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>texted her asking if we’re still on for tomorrow night (second date) 72 minutes ago
>no reply
I want to fucking kill myself. I am going to drive to Canada and end it all.