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>ketchup comes from China
>originally fermented fish sauce called kôe-chiap
>brits try to recreate it
>various imitations made with mushrooms, anchovies, oysters, walnuts, etc
>eventually settle on tomatoes for Ketchup 3.0
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>>21851464
ketchup is just salsa with sugar. native americans were already making similar things.

mushroom ketchup is good though, just wish it was cheaper or easier to make.

op has a giant butthole.
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>it's the jews
I was not surprised.
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>>21851464
>fake headline
Why do people do this?
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>>21851486
>people
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>>21851475
>ketchup is just salsa with sugar
explain how mushroom ketchup can be called ketchup.

Natives weren't doing anything culinary. For thousands of years they saw plump red tomatoes growing on the vine, but once thought to pluck one and make something out of it. They were a simple people eating grubs and leaves until they got blessed and got gifted civilization.
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I don't even remember the original version of this but whoever wrote the first article wrote a master class in trolling
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>>21851478
and the Theory of Relativity, atomic energy, microprocessors, Christianity, lasers, email, etc.
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>>21851510
*usurped
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>>21851509
i searched "did jews invent spaghetti" and it goes to a sopranos reddit page from 3 months ago. reverse searching the image brings up some people posting it on X acting like it's real today.

are X users even worse than reddit users?
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>>21851486
jews sometimes take credit for creating dishes, and sometimes the real headlines seem just as "fake" as "jews invented pork"

i couldnt find the OP one on their web, but removing an article from a website you own isn't exactly difficult

here's jerusalem post's take on pizza:
https://www.jpost.com/food-recipes/article-695956
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>>21851526
It seems like the op post is based on a real one about pizza, and the pizza one seems to be a variant on a bunch of similar ones that are somewhat less audacious in their trolololing but still obviously trollbait, like hummus and shashouka
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>>21851528
Real pizza as we know it (not just leftovers slopped on flatbread) was invented in New York.
They don't call it Jew York for nothing, so its entirely possible--if not likely--that Jews really did invent pizza.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gs9Y6Po-EMc
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>>21851564
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>>21851464
WE WUZ ROMANS
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>>21851486
If i don't fake the headline, someone else will
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>>21851576
>the term pizza was
The term, not the dish everyone is familiar with. Original pizza looked like pic rel. They might have called it pizza, but those idiots had no clue what real pizza even was. If you ordered a pizza and they served you this, you'd be within your right to shoot them.

Real Pizza is an American invention (likely Jewish American)
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>>21851478
/thread
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>>21851464
This is as pathetic as the Indians and Chinese always claiming they invented everything. Anyway, if a headline asks a question, the answer is always no.
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>>21851464
>UM ACKSHUALLY JEWS MADE SPAGHETTI
Cool.
You're a billionth of the way of making up for the other shit you've done.

You think you can buy your way out of this shit with some fucking smushed wheat?
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>>21851757
Calm down grandpa, did you forget your meds this morning?
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>>21851705
"A Pizza" pronounced "apitza" is from Connecticut retard
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European pierogis were invented by the Chinese.
Mongols brought them to Europe when they came to rape Kyiv into the dirt.

It took Ukrainian to figure out that if you can't afford meat, you can just fill them with potato, and instead of frying them in oil and making them unhealthy, you can water fry them.
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My life is a fucking lie.
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>>21852149
>Pineapple is native to South America, specifically originating in the Paraná–Paraguay River drainages between southern Brazil and Paraguay. Archaeological evidence shows it was cultivated by indigenous peoples as early as 1200–800 BC in Peru and 200 BC – 700 AD in Mexico, where the Mayas and Aztecs grew it as a staple crop.

More accurate to call it a Mesoamerican-Canadian Pizza.
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>>21852149
Mac and Cheese was also invented by a Canadian, and not Yankee Doodle as commonly believed.
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>>21852223
Americans think a term meant to mock American culture and tastes was a real person? kek
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>>21852223
Thomas Jefferson had a Mac & Cheese recipe.
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Tacos al pastor was invented by Lebanese immigrants in Mexico

Caesar salad was invented by a Mexican employee at an Italian restaurant in Mexico

Buffalo wings were invented by an African American man named John Young at his restaurant in Buffalo NY and an Italian American family who also had a restaurant in Buffalo stole John Young's wings and put them on their menu and took the credit for Buffalo Wings.
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>>21852223
English recipes for mac and cheese predate canadian ones by nearly a century.
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>>21852280
>invented in Buffalo NY
Holy shit, so that's why they call them Buffalo wings? This just blew my mind.
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>>21852311
i don't want to make fun of you anon because learning is an ongoing thing but it reminds me of a convo I had as a kid with my dad where I told him
>buffalo wings
>obviously they are wings of a buffalo
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>>21851464
china invented everything first it just didn't matter to us because they were on the other side of the world
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>>21851526
Redditors act like bots, X users are literally just bots so yeah
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>>21851464
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>>21852280
Cuban sandwich was co-invented by Italians in Tampa Florida. Original Cuban sandwich had salami on it
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>>21851464
Chiotto a minute, so ketchup is modern garum? The more you know
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>>21851528
During the Nazarene's lifetime, ancient Jews were eating itrium, which was brought to them by Romans and was not at all like modern spaghetti so no, the m Jewish people did not even invent a precursor to spaghetti. Not reading the pizza article but I've heard the Yehudi argument that maror and matso counts as pizza. It absolutely does not.
>>21851705
>Original pizza looked like pic rel
No it fucking didn't, retard. lmao
Like many old-ass Italian foods, the original pizze were fried in lard, not baked, specifically because few people had regular access to ovens back then. It was basically langós, but with ciccioli (and their melted fat) and ricotta on top rather than tomatoes, olive oil, basil and mozzarella. Despite the topping and preparation difference, the form was close to identical to modern pizza and nothing like that Chicago-like monstrosity you posted. FOHWTBS, faggot.
>>21851464
Tea and tea culture was taken to the UK by Catherine of Braganza, the Portuguese Catholic consort of King Charles II of England. Bring Catholic, she was never allowed to be crowned queen.
Bona Sforza of Naples married Sigismund I of Poland and reigned as queen of Poland and duchess of Lithuania. During her tenure, her cooks introduced Poland to onions, the country having used leeks almost exclusively before then.
Portugal pretty much invented world cuisine as we know it. They introduced peanuts to Africa and Indonesia, chilies and potatoes to Asia and Africa, baking to Asia, tempura to Japan, tea to Britain (as said already), paprika to Hungary and sopa de macaco and braces to Brazil.
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>>21853073
>>obviously they are wings of a buffalo
I went to a weird school growing up where we had the same teachers for all four years of middle school. Each year, we had as major class project that so of the lessons, from math to literature to history and so on, all tied into somehow. Fifth grade was Native Americans. The end of year party, we made corn pone and succotash and ordered buffalo wings for the class because it was the closest we could get to buffalo meat at the time lmao
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>>21853207
>we had as major class project that so of the lessons from math to literature to history and so on, all tied into somehow
We had A major class project that ALL of the lessons, fucking autocorrect.
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>>21853192
>the original pizze were fried in lard, not baked, specifically because few people had regular access to ovens back then
regular people didnt write down their recipes because of literacy rates, therefore the first attestable pizza recipes were for people who could afford ovens and show-off ingredients - obviously a regular man's pizza will be wildly different from the pizzas that an opulent guy would make his servants prepare..
that said though, if you didnt have an oven at home, you would go and pay a fee to bake your home made dough at a bakery
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>>21851626
This is pretty fucking gold, anon. I am baffled I'm the first one to reply to this.

>RIP Palestinians
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>>21853207
That sounds like special ed. Beef is way closer to buffalo than chicken wings. It would have made a lot more sense to make a beef dish. Buffalo wings for an Injun party is making me shake my baka
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>>21851504
NTA but ketchup is a process of preparing something, you can make ketchup out of a lot of things.
The most popular being Tomato Ketchup in the states, and generally the world.
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>>21851813
No. You CTE patients literally call "pizza" "abeetz".
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>>21852086
How did Ukraine even get potatoes in the first place, when the potato is an American plant?
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>>21853656
In 1492 Columbus sailed the ocean blue, brought the Gender Binary to North America and in exchange got Potatoes, Tomatoes and Coca
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>>21853656
>when the potato is an American plant?
It's South American
Why do people from the USA keep claiming it's theirs . . .stolen valour.
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>>21853677
Take a break off the coca for the night, Paolo. American is a reference to the New World, technically everything from Alaska to Argentina is America, even Mexico is America.
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>>21853677
Hey dipshit, South America is one of the Americas
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>>21851486
It's for the Jerusalem post, so it's for them to jerk themselves off over how great they are and give them talking points to repeat as if it were fact in regular conversation.
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>>21851486
Does no one understand satire anymore?
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>>21853691
>so it's for them to jerk themselves off over how great they are and give them talking points to repeat as if it were fact
Reminds me of someone else see
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>>21853690
The USA is Greater Israel anyway, so it makes sense.
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>>21853694
The problem is it's only satire to a very small community of weird religious right wingers who get mad at a bizarre idea that Jews claim credit for things Jews didn't do. As someone whose lived around Jewish people for my whole life, but myself is not Jewish I never had someone explaining things "Jews Invented".
But some people seethe over bagels being considered Jewish when they were more secular and decide to turn it into something that's a subtle nod to their very small and chronically online community.
So it's not satire to most people here because satire requires people to know what the origin of the satire is and agree that is is to be mocked.
To you it's satire, good for you, you hate a group of people and like a good laugh! To me it's a thing I need to double check cause I thought it was the Chinese. To a lot of people here it's just a way to talk about Ketchup and Dumplings moving from China to Europe through Asia and mingling with New World foods there.
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>>21852280
>Buffalo wings were invented by an African American man named John Young at his restaurant in Buffalo NY and an Italian American family who also had a restaurant in Buffalo stole John Young's wings and put them on their menu and took the credit for Buffalo Wings.
>[citation needed]
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>>21853691
>>21853694
>>21853697
>>21853712
Do you ever get tired of having to hate everyone?
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>>21853708
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It's just fucking funny that jews claim to have invented everything
It's also funny that the chinese and indians cut corners with almost evrrything due to chabuduo, mei ban fa, and jugaad, respectively
Same with latin countries and viveza criolla
It's they cultcha!
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>>21853715
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See >>21853717
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>>21853717
>It's just fucking funny that jews claim to have invented everything
But they don't, I've spent so much time around Jews and none of them claim that "Jews invented..." it's just a fucking internet meme.
>chabuduo, mei ban fa, and jugaad
The fuck are any of those?
All of you spend way too much time online to really interact with anyone or learn anything, but you really got me, you didn't samefag!
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>>21853715
Crash and burn.
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>>21853722
Meh you're just uncultured swine
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>>21853715
What are you on about?
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>>21853717
>jews totally claim to have invented everything
>which is why i need to make a fake headline showing that they claim to have invented everything!
Yeah bro, that's totally sane behavior.
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>>21853719
>>21853723
>>21853792
look how different all of you are, you all responded to me in the exact same way.
What does it matter that there is more than one of you the point remains the same, you'll feel a lot better when you stop hating everyone.
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>>21853803
Nigga i was just asking for a source, idk what you're smoking but you better give it a break.
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>>21853656
Genuine conspiracy.
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>>21851486
Israelis falsely claim a lot of things, like Jaffa's oranges, and the cherry tomato, and the entirety of Palestine.

Kinda funny that a large number of them are allergic to olive trees.
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>>21853708
Israel keeps putting out propaganda like “hummus is an Israeli dish” to make it seem like Israel is an actual country with history and roots in the area. They’re trying to legitimize their rape colony as a real thing.
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>>21851504
Ketchup was used in a more general sense back then, sort of like a synonym for sauce. Mushroom ketchup is a type of ketchup.
They did make stuff with tomatoes just not ketchup, brainlet.
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the anti-race isn't capable of creating anything
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>>21855901
The only reason people have to have a position on the Israel Palestine conflict is because the real power lies in the Anglo-American Empire and all those countries were whimsically dreamt up by British and French bureaucrats to create countries that would be idealistic to the beliefs of the early-20th century view of race and culture. Lebanon would have a three headed government with each part controlled by a different religion, Israel was split idealistically on the idea of Jewish and Arab regions that ultimately would never work and Syria and Jordan were just the rest of it.
None of it worked, Lebanon's meltdown defined a solid decade most people here weren't alive.
But two of the major power players were David Lloyd George and Winston Churchill and those guys have very big legacies, especially in conservative circles and therefore the real history of how Israel became what it is is always obfuscated and pushed onto the current players as opposed to the designers of the game itself.
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>>21855902
Tomato Ketchup has just become so dominant as the conceptual ketchup that it has supplanted other ketchups in the concept of a ketchup.
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>>21853656
Cabbage and mushrooms were commonly used before potatoes. Also various berries for the sweet version.
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>>21855986
its the food vhs
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>>21853192
oy vey thats antisementick
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>>21853599
Ketchuping is the process of turning tomatoes into ketchup by grinding them and adding sugar and vinegar.
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>>21853656
They would have used mashed turnips or whatever was the quintessential peasant fodder back then.
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>>21851464
>chinks "invent" a sauce that is completely different from ketchup that doesn't even use tomatoes
>yuros allegedly (no evidence given) attempt to recreate it by making a sauce that is completely different from ketchup and doesn't use tomatoes
>yuros later get access to tomatoes and create ketchup
>clearly this means that ketchup was invented by the chinese
Why are chinks like this?
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>>21856356
Even wikipedia doesn't try to say the Chinese are responsible for tomato ketchup.
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>>21852086
Ukraine didn't exist when the pierogi was invented
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>>21856389
No one is claiming pierogis were only invented after 1991
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>>21856356
Same logic as the ancient Egyptians inventing soda. It is true in an abstract sort of way.
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>>21855901
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Falafel
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>>21851464

Haha, Europeans are so dumb that Jews had to teach the Brits (who live on an island) how to fry fish.
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>>21851733
The only cuisine Indians invented was everything Brits eat now
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>>21857020
>MAY have come from immigrants
>prepared fried fish in a manner similar to 'pescado frito'
your reading comprehension skills are terrible
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>>21857020
This has been debunked many times.

Surprisingly, it was NEVER the jews that claimed this, most of this myth comes from faulty research in the 1950s.
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in india roti was invented first and pizza is just rip off
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>>21856394
Jesus you don't even know when Ukraine was fabricated
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>>21857415
>this myth comes from faulty research
research done by..........
[insert sound effect here]
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>>21857020
Jesus, a Jewish man, taught the world how to fish
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>>21851486
bet 99% of everyone ended up believing it from just looking at spaghetti
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>>21853712
There's actually been a long standing question about who really invented the Buffalo wing. Some people claim Young did while the official story is Teresa Belisimo invented them at her establishment called The Anchor Bar. A famous American food writer named Calvin Trillin wrote about this over forty years ago so it isn't a new debate. I believe the Anchor Bar story. Young was serving whole wings in something like mumbo sauce. In the past decade as woke food justice has taken hold a lot of food channels have made pieces about Young inventing the chicken wing.
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>>21851464
op is only slightly gayer then the guy who keeps posting the german sandwhichs.
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>>21860418
Germans invented sandwiches. Get over it.
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>>21851504
This is a guy who spazzes out because something isn’t “authentic” because the illegal immigrant in the back didn’t put grape leaves on this side of his dong-wang-chang-zong.
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>>21855986
I will burn your nation to the ground over the definition of 'ketchup'.
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>>21864279
One of the more rational posts in this thread
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>>21851464
Lmao no
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>>21859452
No, he taught a man how to fish.
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>>21851464
Jews are based
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>>21865660
It's a parable you retard. That man represents all mankind.
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>>21852149
>>21852194
It's called Hawaiian Pizza because when you eat you say "wow this is like a Hawaiian vacation of flavors!"
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>>21851464
NOT APPROVED!
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>>21851510
>when someone from invents or discovers something
>"oh it was a scientist"

>when someone from invents or discovers something (but has no foreskin)
>"oh it was a jewish scientist"

Fuck off
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>>21866449
>goysplaining why you should get to steal credit for Jewish inventions
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>>21851464
>chinese raise chickens for 10k years
>israel claims they were the first to eat chicken 2k years ago
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Peanut butter was “invented” in the 19th century but Thailand has been eating satay for a thousand years…
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The worst lie is the one they tell themselves.
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>>21853577
>That sounds like special ed.
It was indeed! Gifted education counts as "special ed".
I was doing elementary functions/trig+pre-calc in eighth grade, for example.
As said, each year had a theme. Sixth grade was the stock market. At the beginning of the year, we were "given money" to buy stocks with and spent the year tracking how well our choices did as well as buying and selling. I did very, very poorly lmao
We studied marketing that year, as well.
The next year, we were following America's Cup. Or maybe that was sixth grade and we did the stock market in seventh, I don't exactly recall. Either way, part of the set up for the America's Cup year was to design boats using AutoCAD (or roboCAD? I forget) then build them according to our blueprints.
The last year was straight robotics. This was in the mid-90s, btw, and we were one of the first schools in America to have robotics courses back in 95 or 96. We were using prototypes of LEGO Mindstorms, a grey and metal, ugly, untoylike, wired version, programmed in LOGO directly.
Speaking of programmed, we started in BASIC in 4th grade and Perl by eighth. It was basically a STEAM program before STEAM had a name.
And the point of "Buffalo" wings is because it has the word right in the name, you big silly. It was something cute for eleven year olds.
>>21856170
Prove it.
>>21867655
>Thailand has been eating satay for a thousand years…
"Satay" isn't even Thai nevermind a thousand years old.
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>>21867750
>"Satay" isn't even Thai nevermind a thousand years old.
Ok, now try arguing the point of contention rather than being a reddit autist.
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>>21867655
Peanuts weren't even in SE Asia until like the 18th century and peanut butter and the typical peanut satay sauce are quite different.
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>>21867783
>until like the 18th century
So older than the claimed invention of peanut butter.
>satay is not peanut butter
You make satay with peanut butter, which is another word for peanut paste.
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>>21867769
Okay, now trying having a point other than your pinhead, Schlitzy.
>>21867803
>You make satay with peanut butter,
Wow. You really are legitimately retarded, aren't you? You don't even know what satay actually is yet you're trying to argue about it.
Satay is just the meat skewer, my chromosomally enhanced amigo. It's not the sauce, which is called either pecel or sambal kacang, depending on variations that I'm just not getting into right now. It is not Thai and you are very, very retarded.
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>>21867750
>And the point of "Buffalo" wings is because it has the word right in the name, you big silly

That sounds like something special ed kids and their handlers would find amusing, not children in a gifted youth program. I was in public school and our colonial studies weren't that cute or silly. For immersion we went to Indian sites and Indians showed us traditional survival methods and foods. In school we made ink using fruit and wrote primers using quill pens we made from feathers. We made clove oranges and period accurate dolls and lots of things like that. We made paper and wrote historical fiction pieces on our paper. We read primary sources from the time. This was fourth grade when I was 8 btw.
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Root beer used to be made from roots.

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