I drink instant coffee.

>>21862668
I’m sorry. It doesn’t have to be this way.

>>21862666
wait until you realize kicking horse is only on the upper-end of the shitty coffee spectrum and that dark roasts are ass
there's a beautiful world ahead of you

>>21862671
I’ve had civet coffee and it doesn’t taste any different from a light roast.

>>21862666
>Why do Americans drink such shit coffee compared to the rest of the world?
it's not just the coffee that's tailored to their palate

>>21862677
even mentioning civet shows you have a lot left to understand
brand notoriety and novelty is not quality
i'm more referring to fresh local roasts or self-roasting from well sourced green

>>21862666
Coffee for your dad who watches all Taylor Sheridan TV shows and has spent his life living between small cities and large suburbs but went on a vacation to the Grand Canyon once.

>>21862666
The coffee is measured in Freedom Units before Homosexuals and certified by the RFK Jr. Department of Organics as organic. It's from Canada which until a little over a year ago was considered America Jr.

They have an emotional attachment to the the percolator which has prevented them from fully embracing the far superior espresso.

>>21862699
Can you give me a link where I can buy whatever the best is please

>>21862718
folgers.com

>>21862699
Blue mountain is not worth double the price of kicking horse. I would not pay $50 for coffee.

>>21862718
not unless you give me an approximate area that you live in, no
i can give some links to purchase raw coffee but strongly advise against that when first getting into it, not to mention the cost of buying a roasting setup

if you give me a city/general area or a means of contact i will spend a little time researching local roasters you can purchase from directly. probably can't make any phone calls given its sunday but will still look around and make a reccomendation or two

>>21862718
nta but if your palate is accustomed to kicking horse you may not like what coffee snobs call "the best", the acidity will be a shock to your palate and that's all you'll be able to taste. also the optimal brew methods are too different. if you want to go down the rabbit hole I'm not going to try to talk you out of it, just know that it literally is an acquired taste and once you acquire it all you can show for it is that you now have to spend $30 a pound or you'll be unsatisfied

>>21862723
I am in Vancouver
Email: tism2002@proton.me

>>21862721
blue mountain is in the same tier of brand/novelty as civet. you are correct, it is not worth the money
if only there were more than one place to source coffee
>>21862727
without exaggeration you're in one of the best places in the world for coffee, will reach out shortlyish

>>21862724
What makes it better from the enthusiasts perspective ? Thanks for the advice bro

>>21862730
Thank you!

>>21862724
Dark roast can still be good if it's fresh roasted. The darker the coffee the faster it oxidizes, so it's easier to appreciate the difference between freshly roasted dark roast and supermarket dark roast.

>>21862731
I can't speak for everyone but for me it's just a hobby to get the perfect cup, most of mine are far from perfect but when I nail it, it's unbelievably good, layers of vivid flavors with every sip, all those silly words like milk chocolate and earl grey and citrus fruits are real but you have to do it right to bring those out. A botched cup is just a confusion of flavors and acid.

>>21862731
Buy freshly roasted whole beans. The bag should have a roast date. Ideally, roasted 2 weeks (or less) before you bought it.

>>21862743
hunting for dates gets so tiresome I just buy all my coffee online from roast-to-order joints now

>>21862666
This shit is literal stake charcoal trash. Go to a locally owned cafe and buy something that didn’t sit on a shelf for half a year. There’s a metric fuck ton of great roasters in Canada and most of them have free delivery of you spend enough for 2-3 bags ($50)

Coffee is disgusting slop anyway. Knowers drink tea.

>>21862700
Kek

>>21862748
>from roast-to-order
That works too.

>>21862666
I live where they make this trash and nobody drinks it. straight dookie

>>21862666
Just go to local roaster. Their prices should be somewhere in the general range as kicking horsie. The critical thing is freshness. Anything roasted in the last couple days is going to beat a mass market brand.

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>>21862807
I am not a fan. This is what I drink. Super Crema is finally back down to a reasonable price.

>>21862853
I haven't tried kickinghorse, but if people prefer Lavazza over kh it must be extremely shit.

>>21862666
>coffee is expensive
>over-roast the beans, destroying flavour complexity and replacing sweet notes with charcoal
>destroy caffeine so you can drink it at 10pm and not interfere with your sleep
>for the fags and foids, a tablespoon of coffee and a pint of sugar syrups, whipped cream, chocolate topping, pumpkin spice etc
There’s a good reason watering down actual coffee to unpalatability is called an ‘Americano’.
I think it likely goes back to the Great Depression, people probably got used to padding out coffee with burnt wheat and over-roasting coffee to get a ‘stronger’ flavour from the same amount of beans.
I was gifted a few bags of Starbucks coffee beans back in the 90’s before Starbucks tried opening in my country, and they just all tasted like horrible burnt shit.

>>21862666
>americans
Starbucks is global, dipshit.

>>21862666
>Roasted in Canada
lmao

>>21863090
Isn't Starbucks the biggest restaurant business in the world?

>>21865054
uhhh why would it be Starbucks and not McDonalds?

>>21865046
Kicking horse is trash but Canada has many great roasters. Two of the global top 50 are in Calgary - monogram and rosso brothers

>>21865079
>Canada has many great
gonna stop you there, bub.

>>21865088
Clapistan couldn’t even break top 3 btw and only 2 reps in top 10 kek

>>21865054
‘Successful’ doesn’t often correlate with ‘good’. And the biggest chain in the world is Mixue Bingcheng, a Chinese chain.