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There's a crazy debate going on in social medias right now. People are saying it is literally impossible to cook because recipes have errors in them.
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>>21866530
Only if you have a paranoid nonna who needs to hide her family recipe
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>>21866530
Cooking is extremely forgiving of mistakes, you can just eyeball everything, not measure anything, turn off the heat when things look or smell good enough, it's not at all like baking where it's a sustained chemical reaction and if you don't measure everything right you wasted the ingredients
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>>21866530
This is why you don't learn recipes, you learn techniques. Quantities, temperatures, times, etc can all be variable on a number of factors, but if you know these factors and how they can affect the end result you're trying for, you know how to adjust your recipe to get said result.
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>>21866564
aye - learning cooking takes trial and error. learn from recipes, and then make enough to eventually gauge for yourself where you want to take your meals. it's a good skill to have, and pretty forgiving once you know the levers to pull; time, temperature, moisture, acidity, salinity, flavor.
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Recipes are simply suggestions to inspire my innate culinary genius.
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>>21866530
He's right. Online recipes are all dogshit. They're only salvageable by looking at a half dozen recipes for the same dish to get the general shape and then transforming it from there into something actually good
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>>21866530
Not only do they have errors, but by the time you buy all the ingredients you're already paying more than DoorDash would cost.
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>>21866530
The problem is that cooking is largely a vibes-based skill. You have to rely more on feeling and intuition than logic and precision. Of course, it is necessary to apply a certain amount of logic/precision, but recipe writers can't control for all of the variables that differ between cooks, of which there are many - different appliances operate differently and apply heat differently, differences in ingredient availability and quality, differences in climate, etc. Now, you can control for most of these variables if you write your own recipes tailored to your local cooking environment, as a professional kitchen might do to get consistent results, but that doesn't help somebody who is learning to cook. You need to already have experience cooking to do that.
Anyway, this messes with the heads of autists and autist-adjacent people who primarily think with logic and not feeling. You can't tell somebody like this to "turn the heat to medium, season to taste, and cook until browned", they need to know *which* setting on their stove is medium, *precisely* how much seasoning to use, and *exactly* how long it should cook. But that's not a good mindset for learning how to cook. You need to develop your intuition for things like that and react to sensory stimulus in real time.
It's the same reason why autists often have "safe" diets of bland, predictable foods. Factory manufactured chicken nuggets are basically all identical, within a small margin or variance. But two eggplants will be different shapes and sizes, have different firmness, different colours, different tastes and textures. They're not predictable, and some people can't deal with that.
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>>21866731
The more often you cook, and the more diverse your range, the more times you’ll just have ingredients like sesame oil
lol
lmao even
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>>21866738
>*which* setting on their stove is medium
Old school propane/fire ranges have Low - Med - High, but all the electrical based ones are 0 - 10 based. It is kinda weird how most people have electric but recipes have fire based heat control markings. Obviously I know fire based ranges are superior in the kitchen, I've used em all, but it's odd these cookbook writers use the better, not more "accessible" method. Because NPCs clearly cannot translate Med to 5 and so forth, and to be fair it's actually not "5" on electric because the three types all heat vastly different. Poor autists definitely wig out about this kind of shit.
>season to taste
I've seen the autists HERE freak the fuck out at season to taste or add salt to taste. They really don't get it.
Fortunately there are videos out there for these autists that show step by step every bit of the process, including all the knife skills and other unmentioned "common sense" things that go into cooking something that NPCs lack.
People don't even know recipes are just the key details for making a specific item, it's not all the steps or details. Time, Temp, and Ingredients, and prep order if that matters for baking.
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>>21866738
>season to taste
This honestly pisses me off. I don't know how much "to taste" is until I've tried cooking the recipe. It would be extremely helpful if recipes that do this add some ballpark estimate (e.g. 1 tsp salt, or more if needed).
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They're still genuine recipes, they have no errors
What you assume are errors are how people genuinely prepare a dish (aka IT'S FUCKING WRONG)
Several sites that do user-submitted recipes now have test kitchens that actually try to make them just to see if it's edible as a basic form of verification
The other topic (AIslop recipes) is easy, you have to look at the domain name. A lot of the SEO spam they're doing is leaning pretty hard on how much search engines weight domain names related to your search
You may actually need to go two or three pages down before you get genuine search results
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>>21866910
I'll give the autists a point for sperging about 'season to taste'. When you're cooking something new, or if you're new to cooking in general, you won't really know what taste you're going for, so that advice is kinda dogshit in general.
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>>21866530
AI slop not getting caught because bugmen always eat out anyway. You don't actually even need recipes to cook >>21866557
This.
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How can COOKINGE be reale if our RYES aren't reale?
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>>21867078
Consarnit that was supposed to be EYES
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>>21866530
if I want to cook something I've never tried before I look up a bunch of recipes and then do what I think would come out the best whether that means following one of them or making my own alterations for an entirely new recipe
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>>21866530
It is true. Good recipes are not shared openly you need to go to cookery college to learn them.
If you are just trying to cook using public information and tools you might, with a lot of effort, manage to feed yourself but you will never be as good as professional educated chefs.
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>>21866557
Generally, yes.
The problem is that understanding assumes two things:
1. They have enough experience to actually judge those things. Things aren’t always as intuitive as you think.
2. They’re not absolutely retarded. If someone has a sub-90 IQ, they’re just fucked unless they get some direct instruction.
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>>21867029
it's seasoning to YOUR taste. you just have to taste it and see if you like it. this will often involve trial and error until you figure out what kind of seasonings you like, and at what levels. for this, you have to accept that it's going to take time to figure out and your food isn't going to be perfect the first time you cook it. but people are impatient, they don't want to spend the time it actually takes to learn. recipes are a good guideline, they will get you decent food right out of the gate if you follow the instructions, but if you want to be a good cook it takes time, and failure. you have to embrace that or settle for mediocrity.
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>>21867702
NTA but it doesn't hurt to have a baseline. Sure, I might prefer double of X seasoning than what the recipe puts, but a true novice is better off being able to read "1 tsp" instead of having to guess if they should be breaking out a tablespoon measure.
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>>21866530
>social medias
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>>21867951
and most online recipes DO give baselines like that. if I'm just writing out a quick outline of something on /ck/ though, I'm not going to do that, partly because I never measure stuff myself so I don't even know what the baseline is. but the point is, it's just an example of an approximate instruction that cooks will use to communicate to eachother that throws autists for a loop. if you're just learning, then yeah sure, follow the recipe baseline as a guide for now, but eventually you should get comfortable with seasoning to taste and not throw a fit if somebody tells you to do so. especially when it comes to salt & pepper, which is what the term normally applies to. more complex seasonings might require more precise ratios, but salt for example is highly variable to people's individual taste. anyway that's just one example of a bigger issue with people not trusting intuition that I was trying to outline though.
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>>21867987
oh and btw nothing against actual autistic people, not using it as an insult. I just think it's detrimental to cooking which is why so many autists end up having very safe, bland diets. I actually struggled a lot with this hyper-specific mode of thinking when I first started cooking which is why I know it gets in the way. I had to really push myself to trust my gut and feelings more in the kitchen, and my skill and enjoyment of cooking really improved when I did.
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>>21868003
>I just think it's detrimental to cooking which is why so many autists end up having very safe, bland diets.
I once heard of someone who made curries while measuring all the spices with milligram-accurate chemical scales. True autism knows no bounds!
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>>21867333
there's so many things wrong with this simplification
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ChatGPT will give critically wrong ratios in recipes which you will have to correct.
But then the "real" recipes are often too complicated for the average person to bother with.
Even the "simple" chicken soup recipe has too many ingredients and steps.
It should be chicken, celery, carrot, onion, rice, salt and pepper. Cut it all up and simmer for an hour.
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>>21867970
except for my mother, every women i've known who tries baking doesn't follow any recipe and makes the most disgusting slop imagineable. like "i made banana bread, but i didn't add any sugar or butter so now it's healthy! try it anon!!!"
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>>21866564
This. People around me thinks I'm a cooking and baking savant. But I don't see myself as one. I always follow recipes to a tee because I will never learn techniques. It's like being tone deaf and attempt to play an instrument.
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>>21866530
This guy sounds like a Less Wrong faggot who thinks he wins by saying you can't prove anything.
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he's being dramatic. there is definitely a case where a recipe will mischaracterize something and be likely to lead the reader astray but that tends to apply to more complex, intermediate level recipes where you should be primed going in for difficulties. for easier recipes there really isn't much that will go wrong short of a handful of problem ingredients people are sensitive to(smoked paprika, thyme).
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>>21866910
>Old school propane/fire ranges have Low - Med - High
>NPCs clearly cannot translate Med to 5 and so forth
Yeah no, "medium" is a temp of around 350F. Each stove is alittle different - hell, every burner on each stove is a little different, and almost never is medium temp actually exactly halfway up the dial.
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>>21869236
Damn that's crazy.