Gonna quit drinking for a couple of months.

>>21926322
pussy

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>>21926322
Fuck I should too. But I won't.
Having some Chenin now

>>21926322
went to a rioja tasting, huh?

More Chardonnay.

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Give it to me straight. Is the Burgundy/Bordeaux glass difference for light/full body a meme?

>>21927259
I've been wondering this myself, I need to A/B some wines with glasses of equivalent quality.

>>21927259
height of a bordeaux glass is helpful for wines with aggressive alcohol
otherwise the opening size of a glass can be beneficial in letting wine breathe. Getting further into the autism besides 2, maybe 3 types is not worth the headache.

>>21927084
holy kek

>>21927259
Yes
Just get a universal and be done with it

>>21927259
Yes, it has more to do with the nose and tannin perception than body

I feel like body is the biggest fucking meme on evaluating a wine. Like ok perceived acidity or sweetness, red/black fruit (or stonefruit/citrus), tannin grip, nose approach and finish, secondary/tertiaries, etc. are all important, but what the fuck is the “body” supposed to contribute? Oh it feels THICK in texture. What is that even supposed to fucking mean. Especially if tannin content is being considered a separate phenomena. So what does that leave, viscosity? Outside of ultra thick dessert wines most wines have the consistency of, you know, wine- which is close to water. While writing I thought of a good extreme example of a mango puree or smoothie. That would have a thick mouthfeel compared to water, but I haven’t exactly encountered a wine skewing in that direction. Even if I did, how would that impact my enjoyment of the taste? I will end this rant with a conciliatory notion that I’ve had my share of gross outs when gulping an unexpected large clump of bottle dregs from either beer or wine

>>21928181
Trvke

>>21928181
Body is real but it is grossly overvalued, i perceive body as the weight of the wine, like literally how heavy it is for my tongue to lift the wine around my palate. Like I find the weight of Viognier to be absolutely revolting.

>>21928181
>>21928290

>>21928181
just because your palate isn't good enough to evaluate body doesn't mean it's a 'meme', plebe

>>21928290
>how heavy it is
idk man it all seems to have basically the same density to me and I bet if you float a hydrometer you’re looking at variances in a few percent. Good to bring up viognier though because that refreshed my memory of perceiving it as “oily”. So maybe the presence lipophilic substances can add to this texture phenomenon. Some googling also mentioned the difference of skim milk vs. whole milk or cream which I think is illustrative enough. Still it seems like such a minor, minor constituent in your perception idk why it’s mentioned in like every fucking evaluation. Reminds me of picky eaters with things like mushrooms of “oh it’s not the taste that bothers me, it’s the TEXTURE”. Which I guess I can understand in extreme examples like slimy eggwhites or my previous one of bottle dregs, but I couldn’t imagine drinking a wine and going “oh well the acidity, fruit profile, etc. all good but NOPE the mouthfeel (disregarding tannins) is too THIN” then hurling the glass to the floor and shattering it

>>21926245
I drink 3 figure wine every day
>the 3 figures are 4.99

>>21928323
just because you replied to my post without addressing any of the points and asserting aloof superiority doesn’t make you correct, faggot

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does /vin/ like Line 39? I tried it on Amtrak once and really liked it

idk shit about wine so if this is actually bad tell me, perhaps i grew to like it because i was on vacation

>>21928290
>Filtered by the oily sensation of Viognier
Yikes

>>21928471
You like drinking a slug? I like oily Italian whites no problem, I like marsanne Rosanne too, Viognier is a minor blending grape at best.

>>21927536
No I like to have different glasses to spice it up. I have 4 pairs mainly (white, sparkling/champaign, burg, bord glasses) and some generics for the plebs

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>>21928754
these wines are good but they've gotten too expensive for what they are
and I say that as someone who will spend a lot if the quality's there

What the hell is "leather flavor"?

Alcoholic here. Usually I spend every weekend getting buzzed with Gin or Vodka. (Not shitfaced mind you, I just ride a buzz for 4-6 hours)
Should I switch to wine? Is it healthier or is that just a meme? I figured you guys would know.

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>>21929241
I think it can be healthier, I find when I cook for myself and have a wine with dinner I often slow down a bit, enjoy things more and overall consume slightly less than when I used to binge brown and beer and get junk food delivered and wake up feeling destroyed.
>>21928970
I think some of Tablas “entry” level single varietals or whenever they put out a new single vineyard (not their Pinot) is where the best value is for that producer. Like the Marsanne in the background was my favorite white when I visited and it was one of the cheapest.

>>21929241
I used to be a big rum and rum cocktail guy but recently I've switched over to red wine and I've found that I sleep better and I haven't had a proper hangover in a while, it's still very bad for my blood pressure though. ymmv

idk shit about red wine btw but I've taken a liking to malbecs and cabarnet sauvignons and things on the drier side, I have absolutely no idea how to describe their tastes in any depth beyond "hmm, that's red and dry"

>>21929234
brunello with serious age on it

>>21929241
Wine is a poor alcohol for vast consumption IMO

>healthier
I guess technically but it's still shit for you

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>>21929241
>>21929964
Adding onto this though if you just get buzzed on the weekends you're not an alcoholic. If you do insist on drinking lots of wine for cheap try to hit a minimum price of about $15 dollars, anything less and you risk added sugars which will send you to headache city

Palomino time

Bosconia time

>>21929969
>$15 dollars, anything less and you risk added sugars which will send you to headache city
Even if the wine is dry and has no sweet taste at all?
I used to buy cheap wine from supermarkets and it didn't taste like it had sugar at all. (Though it did taste bad but whatever.) Don't they have to write on the label if they have added sugars?

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damn who knew Grolleau could actually taste good when the guy making it isnt bad

>>21931271
Looks like some Natty shit.
I never trust labels like this lol.

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>>21931662
Its actually good natty shit. Better than Babass’ Grolleau. Camille Saillant is the winemaker. He does amazing Chenin and Sauvignon Blanc as well.

>>21931678
>Chenin
Whats with Natty producers always trying to ruin this based grape?

>>21931736
You do know that most top Chenin are natural right?
Nicolas Joly is borderline natural.

Clos Selene allocation arrived :)

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I'm not actively participating in this thread out of pique. I cannot afford three figure pinot noir and I feel that the topic is an attack on my socioeconomic class. I shall participate in the next, more inclusive thread. Eat the rich.

Just got my 2024 Pinots from Sandler Wine Co yesterday. Popped a 23 I had in my cellar and can’t get over how much I like their Pinot. I usually avoid California PN like the plague but it’s the perfect blend of tart and sweet with a pleasing body and mouthfeel. Good stuff!

>>21931926
you want value?
drink cotes de gascogne, drink timorasso, drink carmenere, drink aussie grenache, drink colombia valley merlot.

>>21931956
I am a value hunter. Though it would appear my tastes differ from yours. Anyway see you in a week or two.

>>21931926
There's plenty of decent Pinot Noir that isn't burgundy (though it'll never scratch the itch of a good burg). Especially if you're in NY.

>>21932013
Low key I think on the west coast, for the value, Oregon is competitive.

>>21932019
Oregon does some good ones
South Africa does too.
For any Leafs out there some stuff rom Niagara is good too.

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>>21926245
Got one of these, but 2023. The malbec version is way more famous, so I'm curious if this one is not as good.

>>21931271
I like this label

>>21932239
Ive never enjoyed Catena’s stuff. Way too extracted and no complexity or mouthfeel texture, its just jammy water. That goes double for El Enemigo.
Ive had some good experiences with Alpamanta but Argentina as a wine area feels very underdeveloped for serious low intervention, high quality wine. Even though i give Cali shit at least they have Jolie Laide and Sandhi.

What should I get drunk on during my upcoming flight?
>Champagne:
Laurent-Perrier Grand Siecle, N.V
>White:
2022 Domaine de Baronarques Blanc, AC Limoux, France
2023 Motzenbäcker Krug'scher Hof Riesling, Rheinhessen, Germany
>Red:
2018 Chateau Smith Haut Lafitte 'Les Hauts de Smith', AC Pessac-Leognan, France
2021 Levantine Hill Estate Syrah, Yarra Valley, Australia

If it wasn't for islam, North Africa and the Middle East would have a prominent winemaking industry comparable to that in Europe.

>>21932568
Champagne and Bordeaux

>>21932742
Not really. Given how bad climate change is getting they dont really have much available land that would produce quality wines that wouldnt have insane problems with heat waves. Even Andalusia is starting to become unviable so Morocco would definitely not be making anything good anytime soon.

>>21932568
The Bordeaux and Champagne.
Hopefully this isn't an expensive flight...

>>21932763
>>21933024
Got it, thanks anons
All flights are more expensive thanks to current events sadly so it's not my usual airline

Valpolicella time

Frappato for me.

>>21932742
we wuz vintners n shiet

>>21934196
Kek

>>21932522
IDK, so many people seems to love Catena and Argentinian wines. Perhaps you are more into fruitier and sweeter wines? Unfortunately these you names aren't readily available here, the one Jolie Laide I found is 4 times more expensive than Catena where I live.

I have a massive crush on the wine bar owner guys. I need to constantly remind myself that bartenders/baristas/sommeliers are not your gf. Or are they? She's giving me mixed signals. If I go for it and take an L I have to change bars. Last time I went there she clearly had space to pass by, yet she put her hand on my shoulder and brushed herself against me a little. She had no reason to do that.

Shit pisses me off.

>>21934245
I'm not into sweeter wines but I'm also not a big fan of too much oak. I either want glouglou or earthy/floral.
>>21934982
I'm gonna go out on a whim and say it was just the owner trying to get by and being comfortable with being handsy to pass someone, especially because women have no boundaries regarding touching men. If you like her I guess just be more subtly assertive and if its received well then continue from there until you get a blatant sign that she's interested like being overtly flirty and eyes locking onto you.
Honestly the last girl I tried to get into a relationship with who was a service girl was flakey as fuck and I couldn't deal with it.

>>21934982
Does she give you free shit? If she’s not giving you free shit she’s not into you.

>>21935083
She gives me free snacks yeah and she's let me try her personal wine once.
>>21935074
I'm not saying a single word to her and it's on her to come and whisper in my ear how she wants to sit on my face. Either she does that or I don't engage and she has to settle for less.

>>21930614
Yes

No

>>21935083
I worked at a wine bar and frequented many and the girls working there always gave me free shit when they knew I'm in the business or to any guy who was somewhat interested in wine. It happens more often than you think.
Also they're usually married or engaged unless they're super young.

>>21935111
>I'm not saying a single word to her and it's on her to come and whisper in my ear how she wants to sit on my face
Okay well no girl will do that unless you're twinkmaxxing and not giving off gay vibes. It may be 2026 but women still expect the guy to make the first move.

valpolicella ripasso classico superiore, it needs a lot of air

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>not even in the proper latitude range considered the ideal area for making wine
>mogs the shit out of 99% of Spanish and 80% of European white wine
Get on the Canary Islands train before prices become even more stupid than they already are

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>can't drink until after my doctor's appointment on Sunday
drink on my behalf bros...

>>21935404
Having some 23 white burg on your behalf

>>21935401
oh ya huh, i'm mostly sipping on palomino from andalucia, i'll check this out

>>21935404
what's your favorite wine?

>>21935401
enjoy your unstable nattyslop, I'll keep drinking sherry

>>21935452
cheap malbecs

>>21935695
Ive never had an unstable wine from Tenerife, you dont know what you’re talking about.

>>21936094
I've had several from the exact producer you posted lol

drinking a carignan blend

>>21936931
Gross

>>21928181
I had a wine the other day that I could describe as oily and I did not enjoy it at all

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>>21936916
So have I. That doesn't disprove my point.
Envinate aren't even my favourite Canary Islands producer and I've never gotten mouse or absurd VA on any of them.

Isoclastic Santa Barbara Pinot Noir

>>21938192
>Filtered by Viognier

>>21938347
some of us don't like drinking slugs

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>>21938496
>He doesn't enjoy French bistro slop

>>21938546
those are snails, sir.

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Wine of the day
Very tasty, probably gonna order the 2010 aswell

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Guys I found out a good way to cut back on the drinking, just buy cheaper wine. I've been drinking too much lately so I got this yesterday. Managed to get through one (1) glass and I was done for the night.

You're ruining your health buying that fancy stuff, stop being rich.

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>>21939058
Idk, there is good cheap wine, bought pic related for 13 bucks and its quite nice.
Why even drink if it isnt up to taste.

>>21939098
Where is that $13? That bottle sells for almost $20 here, and that's at a shop that is considered fairly inexpensive by local standards

>>21939102
South Germany

>>21939106
Christ, why would you even bother with rioja when you're surrounded by some of the best wine growing in the world. I'm not even the guy who is always shitting on rioja, I like rioja, but I'd be bathing in baden spatburgunder every day if I were you

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>>21939119
I like Variation, i often have them.
Pic related should be good, cant wait to open it

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>>21939132
>capitalising "Variation"
Yep, anon is a real german alright. If I was german I'd drive around the autobahn day in an W116, with a reidel glass of spatburgunder in one hand, and dry firing my korth 44 magnum with the other hand. The car would have less than 100k kilometers on the odometer, which is basically nothing because it's a W116. Every time it would hit 100k I'd throw it in the rhine and buy a new one

The wheel would be held steady by one foot (no shoes but I would have an albert kreuz sock on it to avoid getting footprints on the pristine, museum-grade steering wheel. A handsome short haired blonde woman with a hearty man jaw, clad in nothing but latex and an SS hat (no swastika because that's illegal and I do NOT support that ideology) would be writhing in the passenger seat, a bluetooth vibrator stuck in her ass

God I wish I was german

>>21939152
Based

>>21939152
Based.
I'm having the Mullineux Chenin now.

Poulsard currently

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>God I wish I was german

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just signed up for wset 2 classes

>>21939152
>>21939829

>>21939863
Have fun anon

Clare Valley Riesling on this hot day

>>21938810
snail you later, dyke

Nero d'Avola for me :)

>>21941389
Can never go wrong

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oz5EkYVJbBc

Wine anime soon.

>>21942330
Kek
>DRC sponsored anime
What a timeline

>>21942330
my valuation of burgundy just plummeted

>>21942362
DRC?

>>21926245
You paid how much for a bottle of grape juice?

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>>21942507
For the Spring 2026 Saxum allocation? $150 each

>>21942330
>>21942405
this will cause a great disturbance in the wine world. get ready for many new WSET takers.

>>21942676
is everyone here underage? wine anime is older than you are. they even made more than one live action version.

>>21942687
well now there's a new one.

>>21942695
You should watch the french one where they did a gender swap on the main character, because it's more fun to watch a cute girl doing a thing on screen plus the same old shit gets tiresome after the first few times with a male kanzaki. Actually for the next one they should forcefem amab kanzaki as a condition for the tests, because they're running out of ideas. I'd watch that.

2014 Vasse Felix Margaret Rriver Cab Sauv

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>>21942676
the price of Jura will climb even higher

>>21942676
WSET?

>>21942492
China.
They fucking love wine (they have basically no taxes on still wine) so they enjoy any media that is focused on wine.

>>21943710
Damn I had no idea about that at all. Is there good ch*nese wine? I know they have good coffee for sure for example.

>>21942884
Does Drops of God (the manga) even talk about Jura?
Also im pretty sure Savoie is becoming the new Jura right now, pray the Millenials dont latch on.

>>21943714
No idea, their wine industry is quite new and the only examples i see in my market are overpriced shit like Ao Yun (owned by the same company that makes Hennessy and D’Yqueum) but ive heard theyve been doing more natty shit lately mirroring trends in Japan.

>>21943721
I thought the consensus is that natty is ass. Unless it's Japanese I suppose, because we all know that thing Japan = better.

>>21942492
Romanee Conti
Literally shoes up a few times in this video

>>21943737
Have you ever drank wine from a shoe?

>>21943739
Ya I've drank Cali reds many times

>>21943729
Thats the consensus for boomer retards who only drink Napaslop.

>>21943750
Woah damn I'm cooked now. Last time I posted about a natty bottle that I couldn't tell if it was spoiled or if that's just how it's supposed to taste, and anon's said natty wine is a meme. I have had one other good natural wine bottle though so I don't even know anymore.

>>21943767
It is and isn’t a meme. The risk of bottle variation and flaws is higher and only a fraction of producers advertising themselves as natty can ackshually pull it off. Most of the best natty producers don’t even advertise it or bother getting their shit certified.

>>21943905
You need a certification to advertise your wine as natty? Need to check, but I feel like that doesn't apply to my country. The first natty wine I had was great. Next week I tried another, and as I had said earlier, I asked the dude if it's ok for the bottle to be from 2018, considering it's 26 now, and google says natty wines don't last as long. He sad idk I just work here. Color looked ok, but the smell and taste were way off and I had to return it.

>>21943930
Depends on how the producer is making the wine, there are some producers in bordeaux and piedmont that add no sulfur, only ferment naturally with indigenous yeast, biodynamic, bioorganic, sustainable farming, etcetera, and suggest drinking windows 20 to 50 years after the vintage listed on the label. Most of those kinds of producers don't bother getting their wines certified or bother advertising their wines as "natural", the clout of their label kind of just sells itself.

>>21943767
I was too lazy to reply at the time but was going to say that while every criticism the anons lambasted toward natty wines held a kernel of truth, I still like em. Yes they can be bad but they don’t have to be. Luv me acetic

Bandol Blanc

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bought this piece of shit to gift my gf
did I fuck up? I expect a least a sloppa in return

Frog's Leap Can Sauv 18
>>21945469
Looks interesting but I've never heard of it

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>>21942520
man some of this stuff is good but they're always like 16.3% abv
it just feelsl like hipster SQN but somehow even less QPR

>>21945469
Sounds pretty dope from the description. Ive never had Savoie Gamay but Ive had a Gamay from Aosta that was really good.

>>21945573
The alcohol is balanced, I’ve yet to have a Saxum that was too boozy. Even the 16.8% Grenache drank like 14-14.5%

>>21945573
>16.3%
Lol

Tasting more Oregon today :)

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>Oh, I only drink ____ bodied wines

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>>21948126
Same!

>>21928970
Tablas is one of the few Paso producers who make legitimately good wine who *haven't* ballooned in price. I've been drinking them for the past 15 years or so, and they are consistently good (and on rare occasion great, generally the panoplies), and are really a touchstone for what central-coast (and even Santa Barbara county) rhones can and should be. While I enjoy many other Paso producers more, I don't think anyone is offering the same value that Tablas is.

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>>21942520
Hello fellow Saxum friend.

Heading to Total Wine tonight and you can’t stop me.

>>21948835
Why would we want to stop you? Have fun anon! Hope you find something good there.

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>>21948798
https://youtu.be/Xp2ROiFUZ6w

>>21948769
Would you consider Tablas to be the benchmark for American expressions of Rhone varietals and blends?

Alcohol is fucking poison. I started drinking last April for the first time in my life and within that year I gained like 30 pounds. Quit about a month ago and I feel noticeably better and my sleep is considerably improved. I loved wine but that shit is not worth it, never again

>>21949339
NTA, Terre Rouge is better and more affordable imo. I get why people like Tablas, but the wines have always felt pretty fat to me
best of the best, you could ask thousands of people and never get a consensus. A lot of people think Cayuse, best high-end that's not superlatively priced I'd probably say Pax

>>21949339
I'd say Tablas is good *baseline* as opposed to a benchmark. Their wines are always competent/good and varietally correct, though they are only rarely really outstanding. But their nursery program has also been instrumental in the growth of Rhone varietals stateside, and they have always represented a decent QPR.

FWIW, I would say that Acquiesce up in Lodi is the benchmark for white Rhone varietals in the US, and at a remarkably fair/low price; Sue does amazing work and really should be more widely recognized. On the red side it really is up to taste; standouts for me (for different reasons) are Jaffurs and Tercero in Santa Barbara, Saxum (and before they closed, Terry Hoage) in Paso, and Bonny Dune in Santa Cruz.

>>21939152
Post of the Year. Thanks anon.

>>21949414
The Jaffurs Chardonnay I tasted was delicious, I have one of their petite syrah in my collection I've been eying but passing on as it was gifted to me. This post has given me the motivation to pull it before April, thanks :)

>>21949354
are you going to blame us for your lack of self control? go see a therapist.

>>21949486
You're welcome, anon. Cheers!

>>21949354
Salem aleku

>>21950444
chegged

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2023 St. Supery Dollarhide Estate Sauvignon Blanc, Rutherford, Napa.

old vine paso robles zin tonight

>>21928754
Dude the mix wines are always the trashiest.

>>21948769
You freaking yanks should shut up about wine forever.

>>21929241
extra dry wine

>>21931956
>colombia valley merlot
What are you people even talking about?

>>21932239
>Pinot noir twice right next to each other
Is the producer a retard?

>>21932568
Germany manages to fuck up wines.

>>21952839
Conterno's Gattinara is a mixed wine. So is the overwhelming majority of Champagne. How to tell people you know nothing about wine, without telling them you know nothing about wine.

>>21952852
Never drink mixed wine, BOOM, that's it.
And never drink American wines, only wines made in France or Italy.
Most Germans fuck them up with their industrial process, the Spanish as well make commercial slop mostly, yanks are clueless and the rest of the world makes it worse.

French or Italian or it's probably trashy.

>>21952841
A Brit telling a Californian to shut up about wine is honestly hilarious.

Thinking about Opening nice shit tonight

>>21952856
I agree with you as a rule of thumb but I hesitate to even say so because plenty of dogshit wines cone out of feancw and italy and there is interesting stuff coming out of other regions. It’s a very intermediate mentality to have. But yeah by and large fuck CA even if I have to put an asterisk after that statement

21 Ch. Haut Bergey

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>>21953434

>>21953465
Nice. How was the Saxum drinking?

>>21954005
Very soft, very ripe, i think any less acidity and it’d come across unbalanced. I don’t see how it’d benefit from any further aging but it is the oldest Saxum I’ve tasted so far. I’m going to open one of the new releases, I think I might prefer drinking these young in general when they’re still hedonistic. the Herman story showed the best last night

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favorite niche varietals?

>>21954165
Schioppetino

>>21954165
Timorasso, not sure how niche it is anymore but it is one of if not my favorite white

>>21948313
>Natty wines
>>21954165
Zweigelt (if that's niche enough)

>>21954719
It's not. Say Chasselas next time.

>>21954764
Never had that before.
I guess Sagrantino also (inb4 not niche enough).

Sokol Blosser Willamette Valley Pinot Noir

>>21954165
Furmint, particularly in tokaji which often puts Sauternes to shame.

>>21952843
Elaborate on that.

>>21955762
it's not very dry at all.

>>21955218
Based

if dubs i buy boxed wine

>>21956448
Whatve happened if you got trips there...

>>21956492
huge jug of carlo rossi

>>21956495
Ah to be young

Nebbiolo d'Alba

>>21954165
MERLOT

>>21955800
quite wet too

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>>21956583
based

fino sherry

What about Easter wines?

>>21957615
Sagrantino
It's what Jesus would've given as blood.

>>21957641
ooh good call

>>21957641
Not Lacrima di Morro d'Alba?

>>21957676
Never heard of it but sounds tasty

>>21957687
would def recommend

>>21957687
do you like roses and violets
and I mean do you REALLY REALLY REALLY like roses and violets?

Bouchaine Dijon clone from Carneros

Margarret River Charodnnay

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Leftover Pinot Noir from 2 days ago

I live in Southern California. Anyone have any Riesling recommendations

>>21959376
Anything from Germany.
You can prob get Dr Loosen who is well distributed.

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I opened another RIOJA, its very tasty, the best i had this year.

>>21959376
Jj prum

>>21960073
rioja drinkers don't even use stems

Gewurtzaminer from Sonoma coast

Alto Adige Pinot Grigio

hey /vin/os, question for ya. i bought a botte each of kirkland cabernet sauvignon and pino grigio for the purposes of cook with at my monthly costco trip today. tips on optimum time period to open and cook with as well as drink some that isnt "immediately"? i like to recork after use, having had a glass with the dinner it was used as an ingredient, and know i have to fridge the white
but since i dont mind the taste if slightky turned wine in cooking (vinegar is good) whats my timeframe looking like at the absolute extreme?

>>21960885
unless it's unstable natural wine or something with a shit ton of age on it where the wine has a left expectancy of <24 hours after opening, I'd say they can last up to a week or two if you don't mind the oxidized taste of it.

>>21957615
Sangiovese, obviously.

how do you reduce the water content of wine without reducing the alcohol content?

>>21961830
distillation

mosel riesling

>>21962331
Doesn't get better than there for that grape

>>21960381
clueless boomer wine

Thinking picpoul

I've just drunk 5 expensive bottles of wine and I wanna kms

>>21963253
Too drunk to appreciate them? Iktf

>>21963260
that too

>>21963253
How was Richebourg?

I am drinking some primitivo and threw some thyme in there and mixed it with water and it's nice to sip

Can’t decide on a white

>>21963347
David Beckham

>>21963347
Chenin.

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>>21963356
>>21963391
went with bandol blanc :P now I can't decide on a red....

So how much do you guys usually drink in a day? A glass? A bottle? I tend to do 2-3 glasses usually.

>>21964296
At one point I became a 3 bottle man like a Georgian era aristocrat but now I’m under a bottle per day, thing is I’ll go 2 or 3 days without drinking and on a Friday I can polish off an entire bottle of white burg and a Nebbiolo after all by myself if the wine is good enough

>>21964296
2 glasses a day, usually about 2/3 bottles a week

>>21964296
Zero or a bottle, but I've also limited my drinking to 2 times a month now. Can't be slamming bottles every other day.

Opening the old Brunello tonight

>>21964523
jk, opening the nice rhone instead

>>21964741
Pathetic.
Anyways I'm having a red 22' Maranges. Delicious

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>pop open an old-ish abbatucci faustine blanco
>corsican vermentinu
>it's like vigonier with a lot of zazz
>oily and peachy but zapping my tongue with edgy minerality
>mfw
this is some real wine nerd shit
>>21959376
keller g-max
>>21960885
you can freeze wine to use for cooking. make cubes, chuck em in baggies. lasts a few months. works ok with some wines, doesn't for others. don't drink it tho, it'll taste fucked up by itself. but idk how you don't blow through a 750 in a day if you're drinking and cooking with it

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These are gonna be opened today

>>21965736
will the white hiding on the left be opened as well?

>>21965736
Probably, it was a present, they want to get me into Scotch, but im not so sure about it

>>21965740
>>21965748
Im retarded

>>21965736
>17.5%
lol
lmao even

>>21965783
problem?

>>21965783
Just opened it, damn its good, licorice waxy taste

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2024 Tormaresca Calafuria

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>>21965736
>17.5

>>21939863
have fun, but it's kind of a cake walk if you have basic memory skills
Just know if you think about going level 3 the difficulty curve is almost vertical

>>21966041
i've heard that 3 -> diploma and diploma -> MW are even bigger quantum leaps. wonder how many people are even going to do that anymore with the industry in freefall

Trousseau tonight

>>21966146
i think most employed wine nerds I meet today would rather get wset 5, 6 and so on than go the MW route

>>21965805
Ya and enjoy the your mega purple pham.

>>21966255
seeing as it's puglia, that's probably a natty wine

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Goddamn i fucking love good Chenin

>>21966266
It's a top 3 white grape ofc.

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>>21966301
chenin wouldn't even be a top 3 white grape in italy #justsayin

>add some random 5 euro red wine to my bolognese
>try quick sup of wine, tastes bad
>bolognese tastes meh as well
Where does this meme come from that cooking wine doesn't have to be good? I understand for small dashes, but anything more and the rancid taste of cheap swill seems to ruin it.

>>21966867
You’re supposed to vino bianco in bolognese, you cretin.

>>21966867
dunno. cook with wine you like drinking is what I was taught

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Recommend me some exotic red stuff. I like trying out new things, and I've been drinking the same types for years now. I like it dry and with tannins.

Wine is such a scam bro.

>>21966867
>Where does this meme come from that cooking wine doesn't have to be good?
that's the exact opposite of what everyone recommends, you shouldn't cook with anything you wouldn't drink by itself

>>21967213
Saperavi
Sagratino
Xinomavro
Etna Rosso

are the wagner wines any good? got gifted an elouan pinot noir

>>21967248
>Xinomavro

This is exotic to you?

>>21967510
they are legitimately sweet, like 12-15g/L sugar in each bottle
people love them but if you have a developed palate you'll probably find it big and liqueury

>>21967512
If you ask 100 people at random if they've ever had Xinomavro, 99 of them would say no

>>21967517
Not in my country. Are you American (not hating)?

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>>21967510
>>21967513
OH GOD, IT'S SLOP. IT TASTES LIKE BLACKBERRY SYRUP. the color is a pretty deep purple too.

>>21967213
Perricone

>>21967213
merlot

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>opens kitchen cabinet (not temperature not moisture regulated)
>takes the first white at the top of the pile
YUP that's a good Canadian white Burg

>>21967537
it's ackshually not THAT bad, it's just a pinot noir for zin drinkers

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having outstanding bardolino

I like Bordeaux and Loire Valley reds, dry wines. Trader Joes is hit or miss but the French selection can be pretty good value

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>>21967829
I rate TJ wines

>>21967213
>exotic
>dry and with tannins
Pineau D'Aunis from Loire
Bonarda from Emilia-Romagna (particularly anything made by La Stoppa)
Sumoll from Catalunya

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>>21968086
>Pineau D'Aunis
ehehhe

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Sniped this gem at the Eastern European market

Aglianico from Central Coast

Thinking Pecorino

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>>21968643
Yo bro I'm wasted after drinking this Xinomavro and then a bunch of cocktails and shots in Eastern Yurop, but you got an Easter Yurop market? Do you have lutenitsa in there? Also, why are you drinking scam white wine, and why does Georgian wine have Greek letters on it? Unless I literlaly ca't read.

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>>21970179
I also found this little cat in a little forest on my way home, so I took her home. Gonna name her Mavro.

>>21970179
Fuck that photo looks tasty

>>21970187
Mbro you don't even understand the wine privileges we have in dirtyass yurop. The market is so oversaturated, you get super duper goodass wine for free almost. This bottle cost less than 20 bucks I don't even remember I'm so drunk. This wine bar I go to is really comfy and get have a decent selection. They're always chill too. Today I got disrespected by the owner and I lost all my aura and I'm sad as shit, but it is what it is. Can't win every time. Xinomavro is pretty good. It's a bit sweet, but also on the dry side. The owner had it as a personal bottle this one time and let me try it, and I've been bugging them to stock up on it ever since. Now it's my safe bet. Before that it used to be either some Australian feminist whatever the fuck it was, or this one Spanish Rioja they always have on deck. I've seen anon make fun of Rioja before though.

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>rioja

What's the deal with Rioja bros? Is it /vin/ disapproved? I'm going to bed but I want to read your truths tomorrow.

>>21970216
>>21970219
Rioja is only good from select producers.

>>21970219
You're basically just drinking oak outside of a handful of producers. I like white rioja tho.

>>21970224
I was gonna say my producer is good but at the same time I stopped drinking it immediately after I found other bottles I liked and I've never ordered it again.

>>21970227
>white

Trash and gay and reddit and cringe. I only drink red. Fight me irl if you must.

>>21970229
I'll bite your face off, cunt

>>21970246
I've noticed that only cucks drink white wine.

>>21971012
i worked in a liquor store for 6 months, bourbon drinkers are BY FAR the biggest cuckolds, unironically. these guys want you to fuck your wife before you sell them a bottle of pappy's

>>21971058
*to fuck THEIR wife before

>>21971058
Understandable, but with wine specifically, red is the chad wine, white and everything else is the redditcuck wine. Sorry I don't make the rules.

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>>21971349
sparkling rose is the chad wine

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Left over fleurie
Ya I'm thinking I'm gonna have a great night

Timorasso

>>21971951
based i had one tonight, bugey-cerdon
>>21971959
based I’m having fleurie tomorrow
fucking hivemind

>>21970219
I had a crianza Rioja the other day and I thought it was great.
A lot more earthy notes than fruit.
Oak, vanilla, tobacco, spice, leather.
Good tannins, good acidity.
It’s not concentrated like a Nebbiolo so it’s very easy drinking.
They are also cheap for the quality that can be had. I am going to try a reserva next and see how that goes. Definitely try a rioja, worst case you burn $20.
>>21971349
>doesn’t drink white wine
Just say you’re lactose intolerant aka a nigger

>>21972772
Brown boy is telling me to try rioja like it wasn't my frist wine. And no I'm white so I don't drink white wine.

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Today I tried pic related. The guy who makes the wine was giving out samples in my local wine store.
For this price it was very good, also i was happy to find some good non pfalz wine.
Back in the day, Rheingau and Bergstraße did make awesome wines, but I stopped getting them since I noticed a drop in quality.

>>21973436
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>>21973436
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