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>>152374110
So alecto is Norman's ex wife right

>>152374115
I know from the solicits Norman Gobby isn't coming back. But I really want Gobby to come back. God I don't like any of this.

>>152374132
Seeing Miles swear is weird. That's not just me right? I know he has a loosely defined personality but swearing doesn't really fit that

>>152374130
Anon wait for 1000. There's no way it won't be the big hook for issue 1000

>>152374145
If they're not gonna bring back the marriage this is the only big thing they can do. God this is so lame. I'm gonna go see what's happening in one of the DC story times. Thanks OP.

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>>152374136
>ZAP MUTHAFUCKA

>>152374147
>>152374183
One conversation and she's Norman's best friend now?

>>152374180
Called it

>>152374187
I wonder if an older guys that stopped reading comics years ago see this stuff and think what the fuck is going on.

So 15 more issues till 1k huh? That should be fun

>>152374228
I posted it like a week ago so "called it" is a stretch

So are Ned, Phil, and Kafka dead or just badly beaten?

>>152374291
Where

>>152374313
Outside of Ned does it really matter anymore?

>>152374313
They well make "Gobloks" out of them later.

>the ultimate sacrifice was just Miles tiring himself out
At least I can still cling to my last, tiny sliver of hope that Ben will eventually be fixed.

>>152374361
Honestly it may be for the best that he does just leave after this.

>>152374180
>Norman loved Emily
>losing her is repeatedly stated to have made him worse
>it is literally shown through him falling in love again
>she faked her death for reasons, abandoning her son to a lonely Norman
>Harry died thinking she was dead
but we’re supposed to think she’s in the right? Completely retarded

>>152374387
Yeah can't ruin him if he never shows up. It's what Miguel learned. He got back in time to his fiancee and kid and has probably gotten a few more kids by now

>>152374149
What the hell is this house? In all the Red Goblin / Misery stuff they lived in a high-rise, right? Why would the CEO of a massive company live in a place like that?

>>152374106
God, Junior's art is a mess, you can tell Miller had a bad influence on him and that Jr is the Goro Miyazaki of the company.

Was marvel really that ass hurt over usm doing better than asm that they destroyed the whole universe out of spit

It was just kinda whatever. Not the big finale to Norman's run as the Resolute Spider-Man that I'd like, but I dunno how much of my disappointment is tied to the art. The whole sequence of Norman back on his glider and then fighting Kingsley just looks and feels so goofy. It really should've been a lot more dynamic, something about seeing Norman's mouth really throws off the whole picture of things.

>>152374630
Is it a finale? He's gotta train the spider teens along with Jessica

What has Norman taught us?
That we must be better men

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>>152374115
This renewed focus on Norman's dad is just making me wonder about his mom, who we only ever saw once and know nothing about, not even her name.

>>152374711
The solicit for the first issue refers to him as the former Resolute Spider-Man, so while this isn't the end of good Norman, it's the end of Spider-Norman.

that was it??? man this shit is so ass

I'm glad Norman's still trying to actually be a good person. It's a better changing of the status quo than MJ and Peter not being together thanks to Paul's existence.

>>152374145
Nah. ASM will probably be more Symbiote shit.

Or more likely, another OC villain who will “totally be Peter’s most scary threat yet! Totes!”

>>152374115
I wonder if Kingsley didn't bother with Lily because she's in a coma or if he still has a soft spot for her from AXIS: Hobgoblin.

>>152374187
I get heated rivalry vibes from this & I don't like it

>>152374183
I like how Peter's boss is never going to question how/why he's with Norman when she's been trying to reach him all week

>>152374126
Why are they all dressed as the Pied Piper?

>>152374437
Ehhh, I disagree. He can still do the occasional pin-up if he actually has time for it. He's done interviews where he's explained that things get worse when he rushes, but that's part of having these deadlines (really old interview, basically explaining individual sections of books, not ENTIRE books). That said, he's deep into his 70s and clearly can't keep up with the workload. His stuff these days is terrible, and to get something on the level of even his early 00's work, let alone mid-90s work would probably take three times as long, if not longer.

I fucking hate modern Miller work; it looks like shit. I understand it on an art theory level, I see what he's getting at, but that doesn't mean I give a shit. JRJR doesn't have that reasoning behind his work - it's just falling apart.

>>152374144
To be fair, it is directed toward Norman. I still get what you mean.

>>152374136
Miles should just drop the spider gimmick and turn into a thunder themed hero

>>152376329
great another black guy with electric powers

>>152374265
They do, I'm in a FB group that's specifically Marvel 1962 - 1989, and every once in a while pages like that get shared and the old-timer's lose their minds.

>>152374819
How is Norman wearing a spider-man costume as a kid, before Spider-Man was made by Peter?

>>152374187
The only Marvel book I'm still pulling is Spider-Man & Wolverine, which started weak but slowly started getting better at the end of the first arc, but now it's getting canceled so there's no Marvel books for me now. It literally feels like Marvel is making books for literally no one right now.

>>152374187
Who let the fujos in control over in the Spider Office?

>>152376513
One of Harry's weird inventions was some mind probe thing that placed people in other people's memories, so that Peter in Norman's place.

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I’m all psyched up for Norman’s training session now.
And hey, Captain Kinsugi survived too.
Norman has his entourage now.

>>152376669
Between his living wife and Peter’s boss, Norman is in a love triangle. So he won’t be hitting on Gwen or Jessica Drew.

>>152374120
Why in the actual fuck does Spider Poochy have a beam sword

>>152375888
Why do they all look EXACTLY the same.

>>152374106
This company has been creatively bankrupt for a long time. Miles is a fucking stupid character. Spider gwen is a stupid character. Everything is designed to keep peter from progressing. COMICS DO NOT HAVE TO BE WHAT THEY ARE NOW!

>>152375041
>Guy who's only ever read Heated Rivalry before voice:

>>152374180
>>152374187
21 issues in and Kelly’s run is better than Zeb’s, but it’s still utterly trite. It feels too much like Kelly’s just checking boxes off a list. I still feel Norman’s redemption arc is too half-assed and I’m not anymore endeared to him now than I was with Wells.

>>152376849
No shit it’s half assed HES LITERALLY ONLY GOOD NOW BECAUSE HE WAS SHOT IN THE FACE
THERE WAS NO ACTUAL REDEMPTION
HE DIDNT ONCE CHOOSE TO BE GOOD
THIS SHIT IS STUPID

i like norman as a good guy and i hope it stays around. norman deserves a redemption arc more than otto.
also
>norman saying he made his own web fluid
imagine the green goblin pulling out his own web shooters from his bag of tricks vs spider-man.

Finally tackling what happened to Norman’s wife.

>>152376761
His current writer is a weeb

>>152376761
Read his series to find out, you dumbass

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>>152377056
>bag

>>152374115
They should've made this into a double-page spread to include the various other Goblins and Norman's other two kids. What happened to Phil is just evil.

>>152377255
This is an intervention for your own sake, anon. Don't post Slotto's jokes.

>>152377278
hit the gym fatty

>>152376597
Not to be that person but that was actually mentioned to be one of Normans inventions.

>>152374136
THE LEGENDARY SUPA SUPAIDA MAN

>>152374187
Shit like this is genuinely awful.

>>152374265
>norman in a Spider-Man costume
>pete in some nanotec autism shit
>they’re hugging

Frankly, on its face, it’s too absurd to even begin explaining too. Shit like this is why you step back and ask how we ever got here.

Bizarre how some folks act like a couple of guys hugging is some wild event, when it’s normal human behavior

>>152374187
Wait, is that that famous Spider-man x Cap gay hug panel?

>>152377646
LMAO

>>152377616
Not for hetero men

>>152377694
Across every era and culture, straight men have thrown an arm around each other. A hug between two dudes is nothing more than a hug and nothing to fuss over.

>>152377783
GAAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYY

>>152377244
It got canceled tho

>>152377173
Emily and Kingsley hanging out and hating each other is a funny concept.

>>152376816
Those two are great characters.
They’re not the ones holding Peter back.

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>>152374180

>>152374319
It's in the archive. I didn't leak actual pages but I got the book at some random shop like 5 days before release.

Ok Kelly, more of Ziglar, Miles and Gwen humiliation rituals and less of whatever else you were trying to do and this run might just become good.

>>152374187
I have 2000-2026 writing fatigue
bring back chuck austen and IMAGE founders from 1992.

Can i anyone give me a QRD?
>why is norman pretending to be spider-man?
>what happened to Peter?
>where's MJ in all of this?

>>152379726
norman is a bro
finished fucking space bitches and came back home
doing cool shit with venom sex with whitney

>>152374147
so is peter's boss gonna be norman's love interest now

>>152379726
>>why is norman pretending to be spider-man?
Spidey got beat up by some Space Spartan and thrown on a planet. He hung out with Rocket and a bunch of randoms for a bit until coming back. Norman's going threw his whole "morality complex" shit after getitng his "sins" ripped from him. Long, shiitty story so I won't elaborate.

>>what happened to Peter?
See above. He's back on Earth because's he's "stronger" now. (training arc + new living technosuit he'll abandon within 2 issues)

>where's MJ in all of this?
She's Venom now whereas Eddie is Carnage. I will not elaborate on this either.

>>152379726
>why is norman pretending to be spider-man?
He got mephisto shotgunned and his "sins" were removed (and later became a demon entity), Peter naturally didn't have any of it and chewed him out until the next run where they became best pals, except Peter was only pretending in order to keep an eye on him, only not really and he actually did like Norman as a father figure since the old times (???). Since then, Norman is a vaguely violent and unhinged but well-meaning hero and no one really cares about his track record despite the stories trying to establish otherwise in narration. Norman decided to cosplay after his disappearance, 'keep his dream alive'.
>what happened to Peter?
Got slapped and abducted to space by a low quality Morlun expy in order to pull a low quality GOTG mini down to Rocket Racoon tagging along.
>where's MJ in all of this?
Molecularly bound to and kept alive by the symbiote and vice-versa. Went to tell Peter the news only to get told off by Ben pretending to be Peter for... no in-universe reason whatsoever, just Kelly throwing readers a bone. Hasn't showed up since.

>>152379804
I'd hope not, but apparently office policy states that as redheads the Osborns are to be assigned to unlikeable black girls. Poor Normie.

>>152376669
Did they really shade Norman in as dark as possible and give him giant lips to trick Friendly Neighborhood Spider-Man viewers into buying this?

>>152374120
Spin and his ICONIC Spider-sword

>>152380154
What FNSM viewers?

>>152374187
Don't cry because it's over, smile because it happened

>>152377257
I wonder of Norman is even aware of Demogoblin.

>>152374136
>using explosive wave in a DBZ game
>>152374139
Norman TANKED that

So what happened to all the Goblins Kingsley kidnapped?

Are they just dead? Is Kelly admitting that nobody gives a shit?

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>>152374106
just three variant covers
The Amazing Spider-Man #21 David Nakayama Color Block Red Variant
The Amazing Spider-Man #21 Lee Bermejo Amazing Visions Variant
The Amazing Spider-Man #21 Steve Rude Variant
The Amazing Spider-Man #21 1:50 David Nakayama Color Block Red Virgin Variant
The Amazing Spider-Man #21 1:100 Lee Bermejo Amazing Visions Virgin Variant

>>152381330
this cover is a summation of modern ASM
0 effort went into it and someone was paid regardless
I'd swear it was AI

>>152381304
>>152381316
>>152381330
>>152381403
fuck off with the covers nobody givves a shit about the book.

>>152379147
The fact that Miles, Gwen and the other will need training under Osborn after years of being heroes will probably be their biggest humiliation

>>152381533
NOBODY GIVES A SHIT NOW PISS OFF

>>152381547
Silence

>>152381533
>The fact that Miles, Gwen and the other will need training under Osborn after years of being heroes will probably be their biggest humiliation
this shit has gone long enough thread about what kind of shithead Joe Kelly really is is. That guy needs to be fired.

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>>152381547
¿Por qué vigilan lo que la gente publica?

>>152381578
No.

>>152380796

>>152378615
>Those two are great characters.
Lmao

I feel like if it wasn't for this Norman bullshit and extra spiders we would have resolved this arc months ago. I had this split narrative shit. If you're gonna do garbage like this make it a satellite book.

>>152381217
Likely a dropped subplot because of rewrites and having to wrap things up quicker than expected for the Death Spiral crossover.

>>152381547
you're not funny nigga, kill yourself

>>152381771
Padding is the reason the split arc exists, lol. “Get stronger. By… promoting Symbie, now live-streaming on Disney Junior!” Completely shameless advertising

>>152377694
Normal dudes who aren't insecure about their sexuality hug all the time. I hug it out with my buddies when we show up at the bar, no problems.

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>>152374187
same aura

>>152382589
I never finished this show, why are they hugging?

>>152374187
Aimless Norman sucks ass

>>152376997
He choose to be good right here. He could have beaten Kingsley to death but he choose to be a better man

>>152382870
Climax

>>152374187
KINOOOOOOO! I demand the adventures of Norman and Peter now, every other spider but my heroes can fuck right off

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>>152379256
>bring back chuck austen

>>152383024
I'd use the next page to show that Peter found the 4th wall out in space and is about to break through it with Norman so they can tear Lowe a new one in a badly composed set of photo pages.

Norman should make a clone using his and Peter DNA, he will be Marvel Superboy

>>152383625
Both Spiders and Goblins are overpopulated. Don't do it.

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>>152381594
>>152381609
your shitty thread, fag

>>152374187
3 inches away from rubbing dicks.

>>152376824
comics is mad homo this week

>>152374145
They're so creatively bankrupt that the only possible thing they can do for ASM # 1000 is: "Peter Parker is Spider-Man!"

When will Disney just lay off everyone at Marvel? This is the worst the company has ever been and that's really saying something.

>>152374265
I would but I know how bad the writers are so I can't ever say I'm surprised or confused. I just know it's going to be terrible and don't read it. Instead, I'm re-reading Spider-Man from the beginning, skipping the Clone Saga, then stopping before I get to Civil War unless it gets really stupid then I'll just stop when it gets too stupid and say: "Well, that was it for Spider-Man!"

One nice thing about growing up in the 90's-00's is you're used to your stories like this not really getting a definitive ending. It just had a bunch of cool episodes and then they stopped making more.

>>152374520
It's because they're still planning to kill Peter off or have him retire by issue 1,000 so Miles can be Spider-Man. White Genocide takes a precedence over everything else

>>152376597
That sentence feels like having a stroke

>>152376669
Why am I supposed to care about any of these characters?
>>152376761
Because nobody likes him so they have to keep adding more stuff to try to make him palatable.

>>152378615
Can you articulate what you think is great about them?

>>152381533
I think the worst thing is no one cares enough about the characters to know they've been around our realize how dumb that is

>>152384241
Maybe 6 months passed in the last decade of comics.

>>152384241
They've achieved nothing of importance or had any serious fights under their belts or were shown to help Peter deal with crime at all even before this story.

>>152384195
Obsessed

Miles and Norman should execute Peter.

Has anyone storytimed the gwen comic yet?
The schizo will lose his shit
Mysterio is after Gwen and tauntin her with her death

>>152385291
No one actually cares about Spider-Gwen.

>>152384471
Ok retard lmao

>>152384513
Schizo

>>152385291
Sorry I only hate-storytime Miles's comic when something retarded happens

>>152380154
That artist used to draw him like that before the series was a thing. A friend of mine joked his GG looked like Him from Power Puff Girls.

>>152374106
Im sorry but this is as bad as wells run. Kelly doesn't have the MJ baggage so you think its better.

>>152374106
Is there no eccentric billionaire who wants to make spider man great again, and can buy out disney

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Reminder that Ben is the real winner here for leaving this fuckass book with his hot girlfriend.

>>152374393
Dude managed to live to 2099 and inspire the new iteration of himself

>>152386065
Until he gets his memories back he hasn't won shit

>>152385638
Go back and reread that shit. It's been long enough that you're getting nostalgia filters.

>>152374187
Imagining how pre-shotgun Norman would respond to what his sinless self is doing is really funny.

>>152385638
I don't know if I'd say that. It doesn't make me mad but I am, as ever, still disappointed

>>152385638
no

>>152385638
The MJ and Paul drama wasn't the only problem with Wells's run. It would be too generous for me to call Kelly's run good so far, but it's definitely a step up.

>>152374187
sex with Norman

>>152387032
It really isn't, he just doesn't have paul so its not as obvious. Every thing is half baked.

I liked the conversation between Jonah and Norman a few issues ago more than anything in Wells's entire run. I liked the first two issues of Beyond more than that but I don't think that counts

>>152387056
No

>>152387056
Peter stop.

>>152387056
Maira Osmani-Milton stop.

>>152387056
Gwen stop.