Thread #153087199
Why Are You Still Here? Edition
Qott: Why are you still here anon?
Last Dream Bubble >>153067347
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>>153087199
Because I'm trying to look through my folder for a specific comic about Roxy and Dirk but in Hiveswap where Roxy calls Dirk for advice on taking care of Jude after he has a tantrum in public and his words are so callous she realises she's friends with the kinder version of him she knew in the past, EXCEPT I CAN'T FIND IT.
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>>153087199
>qott
Its social media I can’t doomscroll forever on
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>qott
find new fan comics mostly
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>>153087285
You make the thread then, All of that is always expected/a subject in these threads anyways
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>>153087199
Why the fuck are Jake and Jane looking at me like that
>Qott
It's easier to talk to people here than elsewhere and I've been hit with another Homestuck phase after years. And I will not ride it out alone.
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>>153087199
because I hate myself next question
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>>153087429
Pre-sratch them would've done the nasty so much
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>>153087199
To shill for prospitcest of course!!!
Good morning /HSG/ by the way
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>>153087540
One of the only few cuz I'm guessing other anons don't know how to make them or something? Myself, Moonrunes, and at least 2 other anons make them (You can tell who made it if you pay attention kek)
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>>153087840
Just seems like the negative favoritism (banning threads when there were still updates) became positive favoritism (allowing threads to keep going even with no new official material to discuss). This place is obviously petering out and it's like 5 people having the same 3 discussions.
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>>153087840
>2036
>Hussie died 3 years prior
>Vibri still the head of Homestuck with her lone child (Hussie's)
>Hiveswap Act 3 finally drops a new demo
>Beyond Canon is in it's 5th year of Hiatus
>Fan adventures are all abandoned
>hsg is all but 7 people now
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>>153087869
More like 50 but fair enough.
Also. Again fan content.
Prison bound and space days are basically fan comics made for the /HSG/ audience and that keeps discussion alive as well.
I don't wanna glaze this hell hole to much, but it's honestly in pretty good shape. The fact that it runs at all is astounding.
Also it's probobly the last bastion of Homestuck discussion that isn't rabid badgering on Homestuck Twitter.
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>>153087984
SAY IT WITH ME, IF COUCH IS ALLOWING US TO PLAY WE STILL IN THE GAME.
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>>153088010
I would not bother if this general died already. Only reason i keep comming here is to see porn and keep up with pbsd updates. But i would gladly let it die if it is to avoid the risky behaviour of the authors exposing, the rumors and the cult mentality already. And the jerks.
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>>153087199
whiteboard https://r8.whiteboardfox.com/87020214-5772-4417
https://r8.whiteboardfox.com/87020214-5772-4417
https://r8.whiteboardfox.com/87020214-5772-4417
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>>153088117
Sadly it is true. and also Desert too but in a diferent way. I keep sticking up because they are good artist and part of me still likes the stories. but I actually fear and get angry and pity at this behaviour. Its also mostly the type of people they enable and let around them in the server, and it sours everything around. Like a endless cycle. Im glad i had a friend to talk with me and got me some fresh perspective but Honestly I'm in a limbo right now. Coming here just for habit but just sour and disapointed. Fault is on me to keep comming back too.
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>>153087199
>QOTT: I'm here as an agent of the secret discord server that controls the general and hsg fanadventures
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>>153087199
>Qott: Why are you still here anon?
There was a light that used to shine
I breathed it all the time
But no I wait on the edge of mars
And it just don't show
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Swag
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>>153089598would let grub vriska gnaw my clit and nipples until they bleed desu
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>>153089543
Anons just want Moonrunes to be tard wranglers for people over the internet. Which makes people blame their actions on moonrunes.
They also moralfag for loli/shota art even though they ship characters and jerk off to canonically 13 years old in homestuck.
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i took a what kind of horsey you are test
take it if you appreciate dirk
umapoi.moe
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Its almost yet another 413, another god damn year passes. Yet another year homestuck ages, another year I randomly drop into homestuck threads to see whats new. Because no matter what you can never get away from homestuck of forget about it.
Also the fuck is HS2 even doing. Its nice that it pivoted to being a legit webcomic again with a story. Rather than wtv the fuck it turned into, but god damn the mollasses upd8's kills shit.
AT LEAST they going animations again even if its a simple page. Because fuck me you have the sprite sheets it takes fuck all time to add a little movement to a page. Its not like people were asking for new flashes every month with massive projects a few times a year.
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>>153090012
Since problem sleuth......
I am too fucking old for this shit, I feel so weird when ever I see random homestuckers cosplaying especially if there is no con happening. Just cant stop looking at them thinking how the fuck is homestuck still popular and with zoomzooms when when will homestuck die yes yes never its a cursed IP
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>>153090101
I seen that image with the 3 american meets this year.
Wonder how many people will show up to the NYC one
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>Tickets
what the fuck they're charging money for a meet up thats lame. God damn you cant do anything without spending 20-50$.
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>>153087199
>QOTT
I like to look at the cute, funny and/or sexy pictures of troll girls posted here.
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seconded
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>>153090470
>cute and funny troll girls
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>>153087199
uninvited ugly green skull monster POV
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>>153090835
do NOT be mean to her
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>>153090940
Hey don't actually. Those Vriskas are MINE you retard MINE.
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>>153090903
caliborn was being too gay so they told her to watch him and his yaois
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>>153089820
I got agnes digital, this impish looking girl
what's she like? would I get along with my moirail dirk?
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Sorry, this one is slightly better.
https://files.catbox.moe/njwtt5.png
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>>153089820>>153091372
What I got.
Btw Fenomeno is my wife, MY WIFE
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Me and who??
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>>153092264
thats why you think you're on 4chan right now, irl you're just talking to a turned off monitor anon
we're part of your subconcious
you gotta wake up anon
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art by me
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>>153087199
to make stupid edits and post fandom nostalgia i guess
BUCKLE UP HOMESTUCK https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rulElJITIVY
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>>153092706
damn bitch ok, im not taking your ass out of the matrix now
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You know I just cried reading this. My lil guy Kiki getting scared for their life was not something I was expecting to see.
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So uh no bay area anons got to go to the fan event at the cupsleeve event??
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>>153087199
I haven't read this since I was probably about 11 and didn't really get what was going on and dropped it at act 3
I remember thinking it was cool but also hearing that the ending was disappointing
is it worth reading from start to finish?
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>>153092951
HOLY SHIT WAS THAT A CRUMB OF BEST GIRL??????
IT'S HAPPENING
NELLIE DIALOGUE
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>>153093264
SHUT UP
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>>153093244
I'm saying it might replace it with something worse.
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>Reference to the motorbike fanfic(?)
>Reference to the "If Mallum would be an animal it would be a highlander cow" phase
>Ellith in the back enjoying a breeze in the motorbike with Mallum cosplaying as his cown fursona.
Hmmmmm.
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>>153093810
Moon and Tri done that long ago
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https://www.tumblr.com/tridesert
Some are here idk about the rest tho, unless some anons saved them
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Little gaelic-lookin' boy, so gaelic I can barely say it with a straight face, lookin' boy
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many thanks
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>tfw ye find out yer fookin gaelic
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I have no idea. Usually synthwave runs have cars mostly or just the neon lights street visuals. The motorbike being remanecest of a harley-davidson, typical of bikers, was what gave me the hint. I could be just seeing too much into it too lel.
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>do you like hurting other people?
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ok if he dons a hotline miami set of clothes not only will he restore his aura
it would fucking skyrocket
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I like Vriska's new Helltier outfit more than her Thief of Light outfit.
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>>153095715
I also think the red eye with two irises making a sideways 8 looks really cool.
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>>153095724
I still would have preferred if she had her face scarring and robot arm from the 8-ball blowing up though.
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i always thought hell tier looked extremely stupid, i dont know whyt, but something about her just being a silhouette with the eye just made me feel its lazy in the way it tries to farm aura, and i think the pony tail is lame.
But i also hate hell tier because i dont know what it is or why its any better than regular god tier. So frankly i wish they just made her an ultimate, and let her trick out her god tier costume, frankly i wish all characters who were god tier did that. Its a shame literally no one does that except dirk, and the way he does it is as weeby, trashy, and lame as possible.
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Sorta like this?
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>>153096040
I get it now.
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>>153096040
Honestly felt like she could use some more.
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goodnight hsg
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Waiter! Waiter! More horrifically scarred Vriska or trolls in general please!
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i know this got an announcement on the discord or something is this specstuck shit some industry plant goyslop or is it actually worth my time
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>>153096756
Haven't read it. I'm wary of anything that relies on what newfag fans think would happen before they finished Homestuck as the premise but it might be good.
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>>153095747I want to coat her face with my cum while she smiles like that at me.
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>anons are actually using the word aura
unforgivable.
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>>153097249
>erm, wtf are you doing NOT using 2009 slang only anon? are you that retarded?
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should be even closer
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hang and shoot hstwt already, the answers to this show how braindead they are
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Kiki Is so cool. Its the type of character that makes me smile wide everytime they do something funny or adorable.
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>>153098374
anon, im not transphobic. rose is actualy FTM!
as shown in the picrel, rose lalond tries to appear as a cishet female when around her mother, but when alone is show to "cosplay" as being a man. this really shows how rose grew in a tranphobic household because her mother was also afraid to transition at the time and lashed out at any transness. her incounters with june egbbert also displays this..
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omg someone just fucking said "I could go on a rant about the vapidness of "authorial intent" and how MSPAs are built on retroactively giving past details more context and meaning, but I don't have the energy to."
>but i dont have the energy to
oh my fucking god just shut the fuck up
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>>153091291
Same, the only problem with me and having kids though is I'm fucking gay
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>>but i dont have the energy to
>oh my fucking god just shut the fuck up
just shoot me
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On this fine Easter Sunday, I'd like to remind everyone of how we once used to be a real nation.
We used to have Daverezi.
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I think I enjoy sburb.exe and sburb (1996) way more than homestuck, at least in the way that is writed and for the social cultural references. I feel like homestuck is for a diferent generation and culture spectrum than mine, too hipster and ironic for my taste, and genuinally makes fun of stuff i enjoyed, where in these others mspfas it pays homage to what made homestuck so endearing, writes in a way that is more palatable and passionate for its characters and also are still able to encapsulate the little details and socialcultural storic events of a generation, the late 90s and the mid 2010s per say. At least I feel way more earger to read Sburb.exe and Sburb (1996) on its own in my phone or pc than I ever felt like in homestuck, where I needed to hear audio reading of this so I didnt felt like I was getting dragged to wait to something to happen in the next pages that would made me go "oh ok this is funny and reletable"
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>>153099189
Beta kid incest ships...my Roman empire...Maybe I shouldn't say that on Easter sorry Jesus.
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It's a lot harder than it seem plus I'm too poor rn, just look into the process and you'll see how much work it is, I even gave up smoking after I learned that it'll affect my ability to adopt, being gay and wanting kids is rough
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I know right? It's so surprising a homestuck fan is a fuck ass faggot
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I think I'll actually defend this "trans man" reading of mom Lalonde. Not because I think it was ever intended. But because I do think that there was some retroactive attention put into her femininity.
The little girl bedroom in the lab makes me think hussie had ideas to point out what kind of woman mom was. If what I'm not sure. With Roxy it becomes more clear because Roxy is pretty desperate to cling onto those sort of feminine ideas, finding a strong man, having kids. Ect
It doesn't have to be trans (even tho given a lot of the subtext hussie planted, it was probobly a blip of an idea in his mind) but it IS something interesting about gender and Homestuck brings things like that up quite frequently. See: John Egbert weird and unique brand of masculinity
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Good morning everyone! And yes...how the fandom has fallen. No longer do these ships see the light. But perhaps it is for the best. Grimdorks has some spotlight because it is an obvious early game ship, and gets shit in all the time for it.
I would never want my John jade to be shat on like that.
Anyhow my friends. I hope you are having a fantastic day, and if it isn't, well I hope it gets better!!!!
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>>153099344
Why do I love these images of Homestucks working at wagie cagie jobs?
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>>153099422
me is having a pretty awesum day prospitcest anon.
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>>153098539
What this amounts to then is just sections of the fanbase making shit up and trying to force their bad ideas on the team and unaffiliated fans. Then they become gay and/or trans because they’ve farmed out their view of the world to these social groups and can no longer function as a normal individual like Andrew Hussie in 2009
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https://dogtierjade.neocities.org/Home
not really jade themed, its like the person IS jade
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>>153099430
It capture a feeling of pain few things can
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why wouldn't I? I always dreamt of having kids and a large family, literally for as long as I remember I always thought it was wrong that there's people out there who didn't have a loving family and always wanted to help out with that, idk if it's cause my own family was horrible but I always wanted to adopt
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is that explanation good enough? I can always add onto it
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It’s seriously therapeutic to know the new fans that were so nasty to me include individuals literally trying to form a gay marriage and their enablers. I have a deep well of relief
(Btw, your demons are encouraging you to soil Easter)
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thats a good answer. yeah i also want to potentially provide a better live to something thats, almost like an younger version of myself. fix the errors and wrongdoings of my family. be supportive of their hobbies, watch tv with them, hug them and say they're doing good especially. i never got that much love as a kid, my father never gave me hugs even in my birthday. i want fix that for my child
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>>153099940
It's the requirement for being a JohnDirk shipper
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I bet half of these neohsg lgbtq weren't even identifying as such in 2020. They just acted like faggots to me and others and were transformed by doing so like in the Pinocchio donkey scene, leaving them my personal freakshow that God gifts me to know how much better of an adopted son I am
That's a better gift than if they accepted my story of team member ipgd guiding the direction of Homestuck in my direction. Happy Easter
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I know I could be the best damn parent if given the chance, I feel like the shit I went through made me a better person in a weird fucked up sorta way, it's hard to be worse than my dad
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this might honestly be easier than adoption, the main problem is I wouldn't want my partner to feel left out so if I do this then I would probably try and get them to get their own surrogate, even then I would still want to adopt afterwards, shit will be expensive either way
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>>153100704
What's there to recover from? He's genuinely curious, you just need to present a compelling enough case.
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>>153101000
theres only 2 types of dirkjohn fans
fujoshis with 0 thoughts in their heads other than "boys kissing"
and artists who analyze every thing in the story and realize the entire narrative may or may not have been purposefully or accidentally made to facilitate this doomed ship.
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>>153101352
dont make that anon post "hussie hates men" post.
>>153101351
john is sarcastic to dave because dave is an asshole. John is actually a lot more sarcastic, bratty, and sassy than you think. He is like that with rose, terezi, and Vriska as well. When he knows someone can take it he doesnt bother holding back his sassy remarks, and he is actually pretty bratty.
its very hot
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when hes bratty i want to put him in his place.
>He is like that with rose, terezi, and Vriska as well
and when hes with karkat he wants to do that.
which is even hotter.
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>>153100704
>the only other viable guy in our little social circle
Silly Dirk, there ARE other options, you just need to get a little bit more freaky
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hstwt eternally downplaying johns impetuous, bratty, and sarcastic personality and woobifying him into just a nerdy white person.
honestly hstwt fucking flattens him immensly.
I want the same john who is petty enough to stand in the bathtub for god knows how long to illustrate his point of disapproval.
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>and artists who analyze every thing in the story and realize the entire narrative may or may not have been purposefully or accidentally made to facilitate this doomed ship.
It doesn't make sense if you just read the comic. I only started shipping it after recently reading the Epilogues (which are just DirkJohn propaganda for those with eyes to see) and thinking about a crossover with another heavily metatextual piece of fiction and realizing that it makes too much sense. They shouldn't be together in the romantic sense but more like cosmically, they would hate domesticity but would stand together at the end of the universewhich they kind of have already.
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>>153101661
lol that kind of shipping was always interesting to me but also to0 high concept.
Thats like some shit i can hardly grasp or imagine. Only to be expressed through extremely artsy posts such as what you have posted now. Which, i can do and can draw, but still, a little hard to grasp lol.
The closest i can come to describing anything i feel simmilarly is like, spider8reath and how John basically represents Vriskas only salvation. Or something dumb like that.
Either way i will always respect anyone who has the guts to stand up for what they like and try to explain it. So even if its not my thing you go dirkjohn shipper.
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Dude I know gays love to violate the image of normal men, but you're just fucking up: my story is that Caliborn was directly inspired by myself and my best friend at the time guided Caliborn in this direction on the team. You're a brain rotted gooner who doesn't know anything and saying it with pride.
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Sharing the couch with lil Oxnard and inviting him to Play Castlevania Symphony of the Night and making him feel in awe and happy. Hell yes. Best Friend. I don't know how fateful it is for the story in the game but he Would love the voice over, the dialogue and the graphics, the whole aesthetic and characters.
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OH SO NOW YOU'RE TOO GOOD FOR SMOKING WEED IN A DIMLY LIT BASEMENT HUH?
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can someone spoonfeed me what homestuck exactly is and why it is so loved? i tried reading it when i was 14 and read to ascend i believe, if not a bit after meeting the trolls. but i didnt understand a single thing, i tried hard to like it because everyone else did but the plot and humour went over my head. genuinely was too low iq for it. whats it even about?
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Kids play a game that end the world, said kids have great and funny dynamics and the lore of the game is really cool. Later aliens are introduced who also played the game and they also have great and funny dynamics and we get fun alien world building and lore. Then after a pivotal moment it just devolves into nothing but gay drama that no sane person should ever give a shit about.
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charming webcomic about 4 kids playing a game called sburb that destroys the planet where the gamers are played and put them on a journey where they can make their own world and universe and they also can become gods. its liked because of the dialogue, the music, the artstyle, pop culture references and also the fans to fans interactions that brewed creativity and turned the experience to read the webcomic more fun. also the flash pages are cool as fuck. I don't like it hardcore because i lack the "you had to be there" experience but this explains much. the first 4 acts are solid good.
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but i understand how people cannot understand the timeline of events. since the whole time loops and alternate universe where happening and we didnt get much of a guide for it, besides the recaps. i had to rewatch/re read the comic at least 3 times to understand what happened for sure. its not a recommended way to tell a story and write at all.
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thanks. i got the general gist of the four friends playing a game bit but everything else i was a bit like oughh whats happening. i might try and reread it as an adult, even though i didnt really get it i have good memories of laughing at jokes based on it with my school friends.
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>>153103122
>be holy for once you degenerates
Indeed, on this special day we must celebrate the beautiful love between the troll Jesus and his dancestor, just as our Father who art in Heaven loves both us and his Only-begotten Son
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It’s Easter, so for Homestuck fans it becomes about my favorite form of Divine love: the incomprehensible weight of every sin, and how it merits the most perfectly-tailored kind of eternal punishment, and this requires a special genius who can manufacture everything required for these punishments (its dirty work, not His favorite kind) I hope a special boy can manage to develop this expertise before His day of wrath!
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either im bored or when im at social gatherings that i cant leave for social reasons (in this instance an easter party) i find myself coming here, im not sure why here specifically bc i havent read homestuck in nearly 7 years but these threads are sort of comforting, even though i constantly have to check over my shoulders due to all the softcore porn in here...
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i like this vibe, its slightly uncomfortable yet fun
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>>153103507
>claim that the author’s version doesn't exist and you can read it however you want
>actually want to force you to read it the way the mob reads it after you try to enjoy this “liberation” (what are you going to do, say your interpretation is sacred? You didn't believe the author’s was sacred so you'd be a hypocrite, better just give in)
Clever scam Millennials invented to spread their opinions to as many people as they can so they have the power to make demands
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Hello /HSG/ I am here to present to you the document with all 3 chapters of the prospitcest story i have been writing/drawing for the past couple months.
Note, the second chapter for returning readers has been totally remade, so i highly suggest giving that part a read, as it is why i am posting this fic here at all.
Please give feedback if you do read, and have a wonderful day. Thank you :)
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1jncIYRohJCgn3GeRHB5Ja-DLbFh39U83Vh VBVPhOANM/edit?usp=sharing
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Just started reading prisounebound
Mostly cause cause i tend to see the one shot of ren at the balcony, and want to find lewds of her, like this piece >>153088361
Funny thing, since ive known the name of the thing before, and i thought that ren was like the prisons warden, or something
I just reached oficus, but im gonna have to stop for now
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Except, for a certain character. You know who I'm talking about.
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Don't worry, it immensely triggers my 'tism but if it means my countless comments will mean your fic will be ready to be put out for the wider audiences, then my suffering will be worth itHonestly the real difficulty for me is page 8. Did John use periods even in these highly specific circumstances? I'd need to check the comic again but it's getting late where I am, fuck me.
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its hard to tell, typing quirks are weird because their subjective and depend on the character. I kinda go with my gut.
i feel like if john is saying one word in a line break to simulate him pausing and hesitating with his words its more optimal to use no punctuation, but thats just me.
also jade apparently does use comas, just infrequently, so ill have her use commas when shes in "serious mode"
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>>153105121
You can just keep the mspa wiki page on quirks open in another tab and occasionally double-check it after you write a page or two. After a while you should be able to properly internalize them and doing it "right" would get much easier.
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>Note, the second chapter for returning readers has been totally remade, so i highly suggest giving that part a read, as it is why i am posting this fic here at all.
Was it the part with crying? I don't recall it being there the last time I've read it,crying Jade is kinda cute.
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>>153105358
Yeah it wasn't there last time
That whole scenario with the talk on the couch is all new.
It was a totally different scene originally.
Also crying jade is definently cute. All jades are cute! I wanna see her be happy be sad be mad all of it!
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Interesting this was about Jade comforting John instead of the other way around like in the original chapter. I wonder what made you decide to change it? Will say however it is nice to explore John's recently acquired grief of Dad's death. The thick eyebrows are cute as well.
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>mallum likes bull-like furries
>tavros is friends with gamzee, the murderous crashout clown.
>mallum feels the need to protect ellith, which is, in his eyes an crybaby who cant protect themselfs. exactly like tavros.
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1. Jade is a more active person both in classpecting and in life generally. She has a go getter attitude. so i believe that when she wants something. I.E companionship and affection from john, she is the one to go get it. She wants john to lighten up, so she goes in to try to help him, and inadvertently opens herself up to the feelings train.
John is both far to passive, and too flighty and evasive to confront his own feelings head on (usually, i will highlight exceptions to this behavior when it pops up and it will.)
2. I wanted to highlight johns grief more. Jade has lived with it her whole life, she is a lot tougher in that regard than john is. And her help leads to a big development for my little story, jade living with john in his house.
I will have the lack of adults in their lives be a sort of theme of this whole thing.
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The problem with using death of the author to justify your retroactive interpretations of a story is that there are a billion interpretations just as valid as yours that are equally unsupported by the text.
Roxy is transmasc? John is transfem? Okay, there are interesting ways to look at the story from those lenses.
But you could just as easily interpret the story through the lense of Dave being a racist, John being a colonialist despot, or Karkat being a voyeuristic pervert.
If the authors intent doesn't matter then the number of ways the story can be interpreted is virtually infinite. And the only thing that makes one interpretation more "legitimate" is basically just group consensus, making analysis a glorified popularity contest.
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Well the whole point is that there is no legitimate interpretation. The whole point is that there is infinite interpretations. The point is that like an opinion everyone has one. Subjectivity and all of that. If you only find an interpretation to be valuable because its "right" or "because people agree with you" then thats fine, but thats a point where I disagree with you.
Death of the author is basically a means of saying "the only interpretation that should matter to you is your own". Which is something i agree too. Does that means some dude on twitter can say "yeah i think jade harley is a black autistic asexual", yeah it does, but thats fine. Its not a popularity context because no one wins. and if your thinking about winning when it comes to stories i dont think you should be.
The thing about all of this is, you can have whatever opinion you want, but if your gonna voice them you better be prepared for people to disagree and even confront you on those opinions. Thats the nature of (i cant believe im using this word) "discourse". I certainly dont think john is transfem (at least in the context of the original comic.) But i am more than interested in having a genuine discussion about it with someone who is willing to argue in its favor in a respectful manner.
TL;DR what you said is right and thats not a bad thing anon.
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Yeah I agree with basically everything you've said. Just that it also annoys me the way some people talk about their interpretations as if theyre the only correct ones to have. Its like if half the fandom called Dave "Davedolf Strideler" because the idea of him as a racist became so popular. But thats just the nature of the internet I guess, that sort of thing happens all the time online and you gotta learn to make peace with it
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>>153106465
nta but here the secret.
no one disagrees. no one disagrees about these things. you could go to a post saying the most out of character-thinkpan frying thing ever. and then everyone in the comments will agree.
and lets not act like most of the time its just projection
and for the first time you criticize these people, they get mad!
these people live in a vacuum of a story they and their folks have created.
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yeah thats what i think., And honestly, i think its fine, even cool, if someone comes up with a theory or a reading thats totally crazy and not really intended by the author. As long as they are fair, and polite in communicating that. Because A. its a creative outlet, and people can take something and run with it and it can be awesome sometimes. And B. Because i think hussie is retarded and i hate him. The problem is when people treat it like a popularity contest, where they have to beat down anyone and everyone who disagrees with it.
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>jade living with john in his house
Pretty cool idea regarding the three years.
>I will have the lack of adults in their lives be a sort of theme of this whole thing.
I feel like that is one of the things homestuck proper didn't fully realize besides for Rose. I imagined in the comic John is the only one to bottle his grief because he is the "leader" can't doesn't want the others let down by no longer being the whimsical boy, whereas the others personas are so obvious one they have time to rest they let out their feelings. Always thought John's life was the most tragic (and relatable) because while every one else were already used to their wacky lives, the normalcy in John's was stripped away from him.
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The way i see it, john is a resilient boy, he rolls with the punches very well, almost unnaturally well, but only when he is letting the wind guide him, when he surrenders himself somewhat and does whatever he feels is best. He saw his fathers corpse, but he also saw jack nior, and in that moment he knew what he had to do. With nowhere to go, and nothing to do, john is left to sit with himself, something he doesn't like doing at all. So he brings jade to try to reset normalcy of living with someone, but unfortunately that will only make their attraction more magnetic.,
He will also have to cope with the fact that everything he knows about manhood and being grown is basically from what small tidbits his father told/showed him, and movies, which will not be good for him in some occasions. I wanna see john exude some more negative traits, mostly because he doesn't know any better, more than just being "too nice".
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ALL THE LOVE
ALL THE HUGS
ALL THE QUADRANTS
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Just another loose plot thread. Somehow Hussie thought that Rose developing a drinking problem like her mom was more interesting than her grappling with being possessed by the personification of her deeply-repressed anger.
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These anons are right. It's a manifestation of her anger. But also her hubris and her arrogance.
One of Rose's biggest flaws is she is both arrogant but highly evasive of accountability. I would argue she is more unaccountable than Vriska is, but rose has also not done the truly terrible things she has so you know. Point is going grindark is both a declaration of her belief that she is strong and beyond consequences (remember she says that trying to kill Jack "doesn't matter" cause the scratch takes them all out anyway), but it is also a complete surrender of control to both her grief and base instincts, and also to the dark forces of the horror terrors.
The drinking represents guilt and doubt. When act 5 is all done and she's stuck on the meteor. She is forced to sit with her actions and all the knowledge she's gained. And she is also forced to find more. But as time goes on she doubts herself. More and more and more.
But you see doubt is what doomed her in the first place. She was never wrong to tear sburb apart for secrets and answers, she was never wrong to write off the experience as dumb and infantile and beneath her, because it was, and the way she was doing things was what was best for her and her team. Her mistake was her doubt, so deep and internal that she turned to untrustworthy forces, something she knew for a fact, and surrendered and compromised herself for the sake of her goal.
Drinking is the same as going grimdark, it is self blinding ritual, where you give up control of yourself to your base instinct. She drinks so she can stop feeling doubt and guilt, even tho it doesn't really work.
This is all an amazing character arc but unfortunately hussie does NOTHING with it. And then rose dies and she gets retconned to have never had this whole character arc because guess what Vriska slapped alcohol out of her hand so I guess she's better now.
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>Fuck Homestuck
more like fuck terezi for never grappling with the fact she did what she had to, that she ruined vriskas arc of being a better person, that she decided vriska was worth more than the lives of 5 of her fellow trolls that died
ik its all bcs hussie shat himself when making the retcon, jesus take into account what terezi sacrificed
did she do more bad than good by bringing her back? not really, seeing how vriska goes off to die again and leaves terezi to search for her for a really long time
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>she's a troll lesbian
clearly an awful one if vriska doubted so little in leaving to fight english
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>she started seeing Gamzee.
its even more disappointing when you know karkat still cares deeply for her and so did dave.
she had to of her closest friends who she connected to and decided to go with...
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>He could make her honk :0)
he could also honk really loud if he put one between his eyes
but he sadly didnt, he thought it was better to ruin the story itself
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I know people don't like to hear it, but no matter how you look at it, Terezi <3< Gamzee makes total sense. Put yourselves in her shoes: she's relatively classy, she's a lawyer, she's a detective, she's a woman of justice per excellence and someone born to maintain order as a public servant. How would she feel about Gamzee? Makara is filthy, he's a criminal and a junkie, even his inspiration is a subculture of trashy wiggers constantly getting in trouble with law. Everything about him was tailored to piss her off, and not just in a regular platonically hateful way, but as something that would easily develop into a fixation on that stupid piece of shit jester.
The main issue was the execution of this pairing, instead of getting consumed by her anger due to that stupid sexy trashy clown she wants to tie up and put in his place by riding his bulge like there's no tomorrow, Terezi instead regressed into being a useless crying damsel.
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>Terezi instead regressed into being a useless crying damsel.
i think she just, let herself be abused
like she needed an outlet (and somehow didnt think that having karkat as her moirail was worth it or talking to dave) for the rage she felt for killing vriska but decided to willingly let herself get abused by gamzee as some form of sick penance for what she considered a mistake
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all quadrants are a excuse to pail and fill buckets or stabilize a troll
pale and auspisomethingiforgotthename stabilize
flushed and kissmesis fill buckets
even flushed implies in some way, you will have to pail. which is quite different from a normal human relationship.
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>even flushed implies in some way, you will have to pail. which is quite different from a normal human relationship.
It's functionally the same, just because the climax of a sexual intercourse features jointly barfing into a shared bucket instead of the partners' genitals secreting weird fluids doesn't mean the romantic nature of a flushed troll relationship is any different from a regular human romance.
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very much so, quadrantship so toxic it made terezi get into an abusive kismessitude with gamzee, restore her eyesight, get stabbed...
all to tell john to revive vriska instead of all their allies in the meteor.
for.vriska.
and not even the developed (vriska) who went thru her own arc nonono, a shittier vriska who ultimately only cared about herself to the point she abandoned terezi to "die" in a blaze of glory with the big bad
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Very solid analysis, I'm of the opinion that the grimdarkness should have been something that followed Rose after act 5 until she actually worked through the issues it represents (it is in essence the Jungian shadow, ironic considering her predilection for Freudian psychology). It's never explicitly stated but it is implied that the grimdarkness is actually her doomed-timeline self possessing her (pic related: this is what it looks like when Rose's dream self is sleeping on Derse). It would be a really fascinating sub-plot to see her try to grapple with her literal dark side in order to better come to terms with her grief and guilt, and the dissociation of integrating the memories of another timeline into herself, but alas...
By the way, there's a great fanfic that explores this here: https://archiveofourown.gay/works/64660843/chapters/166106407
Warning: it's long and currently unfinished, but it's really really good.
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>Shows how pathetic they are as tutors and that the kids have everything figured out by their own doing and thinking.
This is what kids always think before fucking up big, like the OG group did many times in their session
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it feels like they're trying way too hard to rehash existing tropes like "oooo the mountain roleplays like nepeta and del'fi does drama with inanimate objects like terezi isn't that so quirky!!!" like get some new fucking material please
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This this this
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Which is insane because of how very deeply uninteresting this whole constructed conflict is.
Like. Oh wow everyone hates one guy and their gonna kill him. And hey their traveling on a ship for an extended period of time to get here.
WHERE HAVE I HEARD THAT BEFORE.
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help I'm falling in love with dirkjohn
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>>153116458
shhh, don't resist, just let it take over
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>>153116744
I hate Dirk so much I'm going to give him the love and affection that he feels he doesn't deserve because that will cause him so much more suffering than just straight up abusing him, which is what he actually wants.
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Is there any other way to enjoy DirkJohn?
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>>153116794
your hearts not in the right place, but I'll be damned if I stop you
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>>153117083
I mean, dirkjohn would have to be either black or pale (black-pale vacillating?) so it makes sense to me. They're both people who are fundamentally unsatisfied with mundane life (and maybe even the world in general), so I feel they would either find comfort with each other in that or push each other via kismesissitude to try and gain that feeling of relevance and importance they both crave.
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>>153116849
dirk john have sex that goes beyond any quadrants and have the best orgasm ever, ultimate orgasm if you will, and now they are both left in a state of shock.
Maybe this sex isnt just sex and is some sort of weird mind meld thing. Like how amuro and lalah sune do, and come to a complete and total understanding of each other, but feel cosmic sadness at the fact that one must now fall, or some dumb shit like that
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done an MRI, It was fuckin cool and LOUD
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lowkey
thinking about john and dirk through the lense of like gundam and the kind of relationship Amuro and Char have with each other (if you ever watched that show)
It makes everything make sense. I support dirk john now.
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>>153117799
Fug Yis!! Thank you anon
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>>153117895
living with ones own horrible actions is often times a punishment worse than death.
And for dirk, there is nothing he wishes more than to escape himself, even if in a self glorifying and egotistical manner
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can I have sex with you roxyanon
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>>153117895
I took it as more that rather then trying to remove john's hand, he's just instinctually gripping it. like he cannot even fathom being saved and doesn't know what to do with himself, or with john
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NO lolz
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Hussie continues to be a lying piece of shit.
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IM NOT A FUCKING CRYING CHUD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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not to be the idiot in the thread posting fanfiction but i think about this daily. i'm so glad people are finally spreading the dirkjohn agenda, this is what sold me on it. https://archiveofourown.gay/works/33136003
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>Dirk brings out a side of sadism John didn’t realise he had in him and John brings out sadomasochism that Dirk was well aware he had in him. It’s kind of romantic.
oh no. I'm going to accidentally like this, aren't I
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CUTE RUSTBLOOD BOY DETECTED
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>we haven't reached the end of the list of people we could pitch to!
Which actually means
>Everyone we pitched it to so far has passed
Lmao
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I swear it's every fucking week with this clown.
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Hussie you want money? Make a fucking official Eroge. Voiced as well, Get CottontailVA to voice Vriska once again and my life is Yours.
https://files.catbox.moe/sfnklf.mp4
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DOOMED TIMELINE AVERTED
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Wow Guys