>>77045245
>did one beginner cycle of 500mg test for 3 months in 2023
>still have a soft quarter-size lump under my left nipple 3 years later
hate you nigs

>>77045262
>didn't use AI and SERM
Gottem.

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Nothing better than crushing some beers and a joint after a PR

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>>77045245
>Chemical analyses of 44 products sold via the internet as selective androgen receptor modulators revealed that only 52% contained selective androgen receptor modulators and another 39% contained another unapproved drug. In addition, 25% of products contained substances not listed on the label, 9% did not contain an active substance, and 59% contained substance amounts that differed from the label.

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2664459

>>77045282
don't scare me. I don't understand how these clearnet markets are operating freely with like... .com and .orgs? They cannot fucking be US based. And if they're based in Romania, then who the fuck knows what's in the shit they're selling you.

not a /fraud/ster yet but I need to be 100% certain that the shit im FUCKING INJECTING isn't vegtable oil or WORSE

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>>77045282
>pay for some faggy sarm
>chinks sends you dbol

thank you based chinaman

>>77045291
LOL

ok so i've been out the game a long time gents. any guides for standard protocols these days, or is test cyp + arom the tried n true classic still? i see the hair loss thing being recommended a lot more these days, that seems new, and beta blockers for the zoomers is new.

GIMME THE QRD!!!

>>77045290
pussy

>>77045298
>INJECTING RANDOM SUBSTANCE INTO BODY
retard

>Inject steroids into one muscle
>All muscles grow
I love roids so much bros

>>77045297
500 mg test C/E per week
AI if needed
Just read the fucking reddit wiki.
>>77045290
>>77045301
Pussy.

>>77045323
>reddit
damn you really are a retard

>>77045281
Beers no, but rippin the yart and playing WarThunder after a huge pump makes my dick swell.

GLPs fucking suck man. I feel like I am gonna puke when I eat protein but I could still snack on garbage all evening

Time to just take the perma bulk pill

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Bros.. I just pumped a FAT nut into some slut I met on tinder. I didn’t even tell her I was gonna do it either lmao. If she gets pregnant, I’ll make her get an abortion LOL. If she won’t get an abortion, I’ll just block her number and leave it up to that dumb whore to raise my bastard child herself hahahahahaha :)

I’m so BASED and ALPHA, women are such subhumans, am I right?

>>77045491
Based.

>>77045491
absqlvtely based and agreeably would

>>77045491
One time I was railing a tinder date, we started with a condom but I last a long time and condoms make me last even longer so part way through I asked her if she wanted me to take it off and she said yes. A while later she could tell I was getting close and she said "Don't cum in me" and I just replied "I'm gonna cum inside you" she said it again and repeated again, blew my load in her right then and she just moaned arched her back and said "Why are you so fucking hot."

Lmao.

>>77045523
You are too stupid to be allowed to have sex. It’s ironic that people like you are the ones who end up having kids, lmao

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>>77045595
>heh, I'm so smart I'm gonna end my genetic line

>>77045687
I’m going to have children in the next couple years because it’s important to ensure the economic security and emotional maturity required to be a good father. Pump and dumping some slut because you’re horny is totally different, and ultimately you’re going to make a child suffer because you are selfish and stupid.

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>>77045282
>39% contained another unapproved drug
I'm like DOUBLE-kekin' at this one cuz...
>UGLs know y'all got terminal GC-MS skill issues, can't even in2 melting point testing.
>UGLs got high enough tier molecule skills to substitute in other deranged China experimental shit
>t. took GC-MS'd LGD-4033 back before it technically troon'd into VK-5211

>>77045722
Greetings, Shlomo-kun

>>77045696
>packs of retards having 6 kids
>you have 1.5
Retards are undefeated.

>>77045282
SARMs are for fags anyway

I love test bros... no homo

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If you aren't retardmaxxing you don't know what you're doing with your life.

>>77045817
nah bro the trick is to become as educated on things that are important to you as possible and then act on instinct

funny how this is the fastest general on fit now
people have finally realized natty lifting is a joke

Got my second round of blood work today, first was 12.8 nmol/l, and second was 11.1 nmol/l

The referance range is around 8-30 where I live, but im pretty damn low for a 32 yearold i think.

Do i have good odds for trt from my doc, or should i just diy it (i was gonna do the odd blast here and there for fun anyways eventually)

>>77045491
Sarr all bharat worship

>>77045297
Are you blind or just low iq? Read the wiki

Where're jannies to ban these incel zoomers talking about woman and sex non stop here? This is about STEROIDS

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Im starting TRT this week with a total T of 400 and low free and bioavail. Clinic said 150 but that feels high for long term, is 100 a good start dose bros?

>>77046106
TRT is gay as hell and wildly overpriced.

>>77046106
>TRT
You are a stupid, old, gay man lol

>>77046110
Shits cheap as hell
>>77046112
Im 30 and feel like fucking shit but no prob with libido and muscles

>>77046117
>30
>TRT
Holy fucking genetic failures

>>77046117
>Im 30
You are a stupid, old, gay man lol

>>77046121
Youre so cool man
keep it up champ

>>77046125
I know bro. I fucking ROCK

>>77046106
You're probably fat and have no muscle mass. You don't need trt, femnigger

If you do roids before the age of 30 you are an retard.

>>77045595
>>77045696
You're not necessarily wrong, but you sound so pathetic and retarded that I can't event

Check out my cycle
I call it The Devil's Stallion
>600mg test E/week
>600mg EQ/week
>60mg tbol/day

The devil is because of three sixes and the stallion is because of eq, get it?

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Is it normal for ugl to have different amounts of oil in the vials? Just got my order and there are 4 vials of T and all of them have different amounts of oil
Wtf?
Fucking pajeets

>>77046397
lol yeah bro and I havent used gear in years. waste of time and dangerous as fuck. Do you have any clue where this shit is made? you'd honestly be better off getting a chemistry degree online from an accredited indian university and just do it yourself

>>77046397
>>77046408
I used to buy from one ugl on the clearnet. great stuff used it for years. the vials were never even. sometimes cloudy, sometimes crystallized. I've had batches I thought were going to kill me, i still kept pinning. not worth it. I quit in 2020 because I didnt trust any injections anymore. who would? fucking retards.

>>77046408
>>77046413
For some reason this poster has seen fit to post twice as if in conversation.

>>77046393
it's 2026 anon...there are easier and more direct ways of coming out of the closet than making a post like this

>>77046662
What are you talking about?

>>77046397
The inner thickness of vials varies. The amount in each vial is probably the same.

>>77046666
This REALLY does sound like a cope by the producer of this shit
Nice digits though!

>>77046393
Hey I posted the same cycle a few threads ago, I'll be running less tbol though.
Thinking of 30-40 mg, apparently it really fucks with some people's BP so I might increase it based on tolerance.
Keep me posted anon, let's see what gains this cycle can achieve.

>>77046397
Just check the lowest one by drawing everything into a 10 mL syringe. If they actually follow pharma standards, even that one should have slightly above 10 mL in content.

I was drawing up a box of 10 ampoules yesterday to put into a vial and I ended up with like 12 mL in the syringe and a full ampoule left over.

>>77046714
>I posted the same cycle a few threads ago
I memba
I replied to you then
>I'll be running less tbol though
My reasoning is that 50 can't be split evenly (taking it two times a day, 10mg tabs). So I decided to just take 60mg instead

SIRS please do not be drinking, very bad for pretty. Sex bitch.

>>77046718
>If they actually follow pharma standards
Yeah and these ugl jeets and chinks are pretty stingy. During my last cycle I had those 10ml vials that had EXACTLY 10ml of oil in each of them
Greedy fucks

>>77046666
No satan, the UGLs do not manufacture the glass vials themselves, and tubular vials, which are most often used for small volumes, such as roid and peptide vials, have minimal variation in wall thickness. Molded vials, used for large volumes, like 100 mL horse roids, do have some more noticeable variation. If you're buying molded vials (convex at the bottom instead of flat, has a faint vertical line somewhere), you're buying from the stingiest, greediest UGL fuckers out there.

Some UGLs will actually overfill a little, like they're supposed to if they're trying to meet pharma standards, or they'll be stingy bitches like the ones >>77046737 buys from and fill exactly or even underfill.

>>77046769
Where would i procure these 100ml vials of horse roids

>>77045245
Current blast just started on Sunday.
>250 test c /wk
>200 primo e /wk
>100 tren e / wk
>500iu hcg God
>3iu hgh ed
>50mg anavar PWO

Exemestane as needed.
Telmasartin & tadalafil for BP.

>>77046790
Actual horse roids have laughable concentration
Like, they have eq that's 50mg/ml
I don't think you want to inject 20ml of oil every time

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>>77046792
>>77046790
Yeah I live in a third world country so I can just order these online, but it's not worth the hassle wit the amount of volume you'd need to pin.
Pircrel is around $82 USD.

>>77046792
I'll hook up a syringe driver

>>77046794
LOOK AT THOSE FUCKING UDDERS. Should i buy this and pin it into my gf?

>>77046798
That's a bull anon.

>>77046800
IM GONNA MILK IT

>>77046800
He will never be a cow

>>77046801
Anon no :(

30% of an anavar dose is excreted unchanged in your urine. You can make your girl a varbie by making her drink your piss.

>>77046964
im unironically gonna do this. my wife gonna be chuggin piss for gains.

>>77046964
Grok is this true? Am I going to drink my own piss for gainsmaxxing?

>>77046982
Based.

>>77046110
>>77046112
>>77046202
Yeah... This board is completely useless now, look these comments... Is there someone over 18 here?

>>77045491
God I miss railing fat broads....so so much

>>77047017
>i-i'm a big boy roider with my 100mg test only for $150 a month!
Lol.

>>77046413
>> some vials cloudy
>> some crashed
>> some made me feel like i was going to die
>> great stuff

>>77047018
I need to unload into a soggy wet hole so bad.

okay, so.... hgh vs tren? which gives better gains? let's say.... 8iu ed hgh vs 500mg/week tren. some relatively high for most dosage, but not big boy numbers

>>77047025
You are poor fucking third worlder retard. 150 bucks a month is very worthwhile to not be committing felonies or have to worry about getting contaminated shit

>>77047126
I likely make more money than you. The money is more insult to injury. The real point is 100mg or whatever homo test dose you're doing is near pointless. Just actually roid or chill with your 450 ng/dl.

>>77047121
I like tren.

>>77047121
For gains, 100% tren. HGH isn't really for gains unless you're doing hgh and insulin.

>>77045245
hey frens is SARMS bad for your health? Shia got buff as shit doing them, is it worth it

>>77047179
>is SARMS bad for your health
Yes. As all anabolic compounds
>Shia got buff as shit doing them
Don't know who it is, but I doubt anyone can get "buff as shit" on just sarms. He probably forgot to say he was also injecting testosterone
>is it worth it
No. It's a waste of time. You suppress yourself and your balls stop working, but you don't get even half of what actual gear can give you

If you're young, avoid anabolic substances. Being just fit is enough

>>77047205
>If you're young, avoid anabolic substances. Being just fit is enough
>dude just wait until you're 35 to get jacked
Come on, anon. Frankly I'd say it's the opposite, being big matters less when you're older. You probably aren't going out as much, may be married with kids. And the stress of roids is harder on an older body anyway.

>>77047017
/fraud/ not /trt/ general
Why shut yourself down for less than 200mg per week
300mg test e 300mg EQ is a good trt+. A nice athletic trt
You do lift and have diet in check anon?

>>77045245
I genuinely hope that you all die young. It brings me joy every time I see a roidtranny ACK in their 40s kek

>>77047325
I hope I die sooner than 40 bro.

>>77047327
Me too, would bring me even more kekles

I'm doing dbol only and there's nothing you can do about it

>>77046801
Do not come

Do not come

>>77047347
Shit always raped my stomach
I used beligas too

>>77047126
weird, my insurance covers TRT 100%

>>77047138
i also like tren
>>77047145
see, i always roll slin in with big boy doses. like... if you're considering 16iu+, then you should be taking slin as well. would you opt for it at 8iu+ as well?

>>77047205
right? five bucks says this shia character has their own line of sarms, or some bullshit "natural testosterone booster pill"

>>77047327
i always thought i'd be dead by 29. am 40 :(

>>77047644
Depends on your goals with the hgh. If you're going for max gains then definitely use insulin. And you're ok with the risks insulin presents.

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>>77047651
>>77047205
I bet he means Shia LaBeouf. Even Steven.

>>77047667
>buff as shit

Is it retarded to start blasting and cruising at age 40 with already good levels, I already have kids and don’t need my nuts anymore, just wanna get big

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damn did they bite the dust finally?

>>77047657
i havent dipped my toe into hgh yet, but the fat burn is attractive. i have a lingering belly that i just cant seem to shake. i guess i could do t3+clen, but if i can get the same effect from something that also adds some mass, then i'd rather do that. tren sounds the best for short term, but sides get everyone. hgh the best for long term, with the added bonus of better healing, joint support for my old ass, and better sleep, but not nearly as good as a mass maker, and you gotta deal with water bloat if you decide to not spend 10x more for pharma. really i'm just being lazy with my diet... hah

>>77047688
nope. bunch of 40+ tards on here. and meso is like... boomer central

>>77047858
Eat less.

>>77047884
This is the solution to so many people's problems yet they still refuse to do it.
I don't get how someone who can't even lose weight properly thinks he has any business roiding, no wonder so many retards get fucked up.

>>77047884
>>77047961
yes, but have you considered.... no? i already gave myself an eating disorder once while chasing after grams on a scale. not really feelin goin back to 1000 calories a day when shortcuts exist

>>77048088
I don't even like eating a lot of food I just like feeling full. Cutting makes me want to kill myself.

>>77048088
>when shortcuts exist
No they don't. Even things DNP, all they do is mildly increase your calories burned per day, your metabolic rate. You could just not eat the calories in the first place.

The only ""fat loss"" drug worth a shit is GLP-1's. Because they significantly suppress appetite. Which just leads to the original point, eat less.

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>>77045245
are the websites on google legit? Is it really that easy to get test? I don't care about my balls getting smaller I just want to get bigger

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>chatgpt told me my years of white monsters on an empty stomach every morning is the reason my stomach can't handle steroids other than test (gives me uncontrollable diarrhea)

>>77046106
Charlie was the worst in Party Of Five. Claudia was better for him then he was for her.

>>77046106
high based on what?? vibes? dont be a moron.

>>77048514
No.

>>77047121
500mg tren is big boy number.

>>77048839
400mg is just right

>>77048867
idk, i ran 300mg once and it made my blood pressure and heart rate crazy. Didn't check cholesterol as I had no means of getting a statin anyway.

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>>77048915
>Didn't check cholesterol as I had no means of getting a statin anyway.
Implying statins are anywhere close to the only way to lower cholesterol, lmao.

>>77048514
It took me about 5 minutes to find a reputable source, check reviews, double check reivews, and then place an order for test. Also don't be a retard and abstain from bloodwork and AI

More opinions on this? >>77046397

>>77049166
Yes you fucking retard. You are buying illegal drugs from an UNDERGROUND LAB its not regulated by any governing body other than a bunch of juiced of criminals that may or may not be apart of a criminal federation. FUCKING RETARDED NIGGER FAGGOT.

What do you think? They got a chink in a lab coat doing QA on every vial getting shipped. out.
NIGGER RETARD

>>77049175
Good reply, thank you, we need more posters like you on this site

>>77049178
These little nigger faggots want to be coddled so hard.
> A-am I going to be ok, anon?

>>77049188
I'm the one who asked the question though

>>77048966
share with the class timmy

spiritual PERMADYEL general!

>>77048966
Well im taking omega 3 four times a day and doing cardio

can I have 1000lb deadlift?

>>77047314
>/fraud/ not /trt/ general
Yes but TRT is the first step frequently
>Why shut yourself down for less than 200mg per week
Sides? Idk. Who cares
>300mg test e 300mg EQ is a good trt+. A nice athletic trt
It's not trt, you could argue is a good start cycle though.
>You do lift and have diet in check anon?
Yes but not like you apparently

>>77049175
>most respectful fraud answerer

>>77049692
*Hymie

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>>77049692
Unlike you Indians, most white people don’t need to go on statins until middle age (if at all).

>>77047961
Because it’s the hardest thing to do. We live in a time of supernaturally palatable foods in abundant quantities. And you can never quit eating cold turkey like you could with drugs. Dieting has like a 95% long term failure rate because it’s basically impossible. And you reveal yourself to be a low appetite runt for not understanding this. No wonder you need roids lol nature designed you to be a slave.

>>77050082
Now THIS is that fatty cope we love to see.. There’s no way this isn’t bait.

>>77050086
It’s just reality. You have no understanding of how the brain works and you are a low appetite runt who needs steroids to build muscle. You are the textbook definition of a beta male

>>77050093
>is fat
>tries to assert that being fat means he is superior anybody
>implies that you are either scrawny or obese, can’t comprehend that people who weigh a normal amount eat a normal amount of food
>can’t conceive of the idea that people don’t have to fight the urge to gorge all day
You can’t be serious. Being fat is worse for your social status/standing than being poor.

>>77050080
Yeah, except most people aren't on tren lmao

Is daily telmisartan/sildenafil a must on 1) dbol 2) test doses above 500 mg a week?

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>>77045262
>>did one beginner cycle of 500mg test for 3 months in 2023
>>still have a soft quarter-size lump under my left nipple 3 years later
That's your own damn fault
1. Falling for the "500mg is the bare minimum to get results!" meme pushed by gear heads (Seriously, lurk /r/bodybuilding and compare it to /r/steroids, /r/bodybuilding is using far smaller doses and yet are far bigger)
2. Not knowing how to use an AI/SERM

>>77046106
Average human male produces 50-70mg of testosterone per week.
Test-Cypionate/Enanthate are 30% ester (100mg of Test-E = 70mg of testosterone)
150mg is high, 100mg is a replacement dose

>>77050140
No but you should be popping AI like candy to combat E2 bloat

>>77050140
Not really, my BP is high but even with daily dbol + 500mg test weekly it wasn't scarily high, I did it maybe 3 times a week but that is because it helps me coom a ton with the gf and sleep easier.

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>>77049692
Picrel, have some clanker sloppa bout plants. Now you're a little deeper down the physiology iceberg...

>>77050080
Listen here Saar Respected Doctor Bench-ode, do not be into the redeemings of boomer statin medicaments for the lanky-corpulent sub-continental physique; they even mog by the Bempedoic acid among many other newer pale face man molecules.
>t. uses a weird mystery steroid that IMPROVES lipid profiles

>>77050322
I just started using Benecol chews

>>77045245
Need help. Do you guys ever get horrific back pain from Cialis? Took 10mg, haven’t taken in while. Didn’t even take for working out just wanted to jack off like crazy because it makes it take forever for me to cum. Decided to shave beard maybe 20 minutes after taking. At end suddenly crippling back pain a bit lower than scapula. Feels like horribly pulled muscle or a tear. Made me wanna keel over couldn’t breath for a second due to the pain. Hobbled over collapsed in bed. Took 30 minutes of gentle stretching to be able to fight my way to stand. Feels better after some water. Hurts really bad though. HR normal o2 normal not a collapsed lung. Can tell it’s muscle. Looked it up apparently cialis causes this

>>77050419
Only side effect I’ve ever had was heart burn. I have heard kidney stones described similar to what you are saying but I have no idea.

>>77050467
I don’t think it’s kidney, Ivan get relief moving a certain way and in certain positions doing certain stretches. It’s feeling better. If it’s not the Cialis idk what happened then. Was just standing in my bathroom shaving my beard off, had a 2 inch beard shaved down to a 5 so was being pretty aggressive with my clippers. I can get up and move again at least. I need to get it together. Fucking Cialis just to beat my dick retard style.

>>77050506
I mean if you stood hunched over the sink in a weird way you could've put extra strain on your lower back, but I never got that. If it is an actual side effect some people experience then it makes sense.

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Will DHT gel nuke my hair?
I'm thinking about trying it for muscle and voice gains, but reports suggest it goes systematic fast. Will topical fin/dutasteride be enough to prevent the hairloss side effects? Does it only prevent the production of DHT rather than its effects?

Can you mix HGH, HCG and Reta in the same syringe so you don't have to inject 3 times?
I will do HGH daily, HCG twice a week and Reta once or twice a week so during some days I might need to inject all three.
They're all mixed in bac water and injected subq so I don't see why not but I thought I'd ask first.

>>77050322
Thanks anon, this is exactly what I was looking for.

>>77050419
Never had it on 2.5. Generally pain behind your scapula if it's on your left side means possible heart attack imminent. Could be a collapsing lung too. Those are the two worst cases, possibly worth getting checked out. Otherwise yeah it could just be a muscle cramp caused by cialis. I would dial back your dose in the future at the very least.

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>>77050570
>Does it only prevent the production of DHT rather than its effects?
Yup. You gotta look at other abstruse downstream targets like DKK1 and GSK3β instead.

>>77050781
GLP1s don't mix well with others, they sludge up in the syringe apparently.
HCG and HGH probably fine together though.

>>77048246
yeeeessssss!!! bulking sucks. cutting sucks. tirz is great, but has only got me so far. really, var could probably finish it. i dunno. just being indecisive
>>77048494
>> shortcuts dont exist
>> describes multiple shortcuts

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>>77045245
Tren unironically made me realize I was trans, so beware if you’re afraid of that kind of thing. I’m not joking. I’m literally on estrogen now.

>>77051059
Is that why I want to be a girl?

>>77051100
It’s probably not the tren, but it’s probably helping you stop repressing those feelings. Tren didn’t make me trans, but it did make me seriously think about how I’ve been repressing that weird desire to be a woman my entire life. And then I realized I already was one.

>>77048839
dude here runs 1.5g. another 1g. we can pump that 500 up!

>>77051059
Lmao Tren claims another victim

How long should I wait before hoping on? I just want to get big

>>77050140
no, but 5mg ed tadalafil is good for heart health

>>77050322
quick warning to anyone looking at sloppa. naringin is the stuff in grapefruit that is the reason just about every damn thing out there says not to eat grapefruit while taking

>>77051254
the best time to start roids is yesterday. the second best time is today
>>77051250
wait wait wait.... i thought it made us want to FUCK trannies, not be one! shit!

>>77051268
It's not like you should be banging them either m8

>>77051268
I just barely decided to start working out and have no progress I don't think I should hop on rn. If I wait wont they make more of an impact

>>77051059
jerry?

>>77051286
Iron out everything else first before gear, get it all perfect; diet, workout form, workout splits and rest days, mainly diet and form because splits I set up rest days on injection days (every 3 days) so I don't have to work those site muscles.

>>77050570
>Muscle gains
Anon DHT is basically rendered inactive in muscle cells. There's an enzyme that rapidly metabolizes it forget the name.

When do I get a deeper voice on Anavar I hate sounding like a woman!!!

>>77050890
Pain is in right side. It’s still there. I’m 99% sure it’s muscle with a 1% doubt from basic health anxiety
>dial back dose
I’ve taken up to 12 mg with only slight headache and sinus pressure, this has me concerned. I like to take it for sex (wild I know), it makes my dick go past its maximum size and I last as long as I want with it, almost no refresh period can fuck back to back. It vastly changes how women behave with me no pissy little tests because I’m fucking them that well. Like did this made the girl cum a dozen times and after the nap she went crazy terrified I was gonna leave her LOL. Sub 10% doesn’t do much for me maybe some slightly better pumps gym wise but nothing for my big ahh dih. It’s become a staple for the first handfuls of times with new women and a back pocket tool if there’s any relationship issues so I can remind her what got her hooked
My fear is not being able to do that anymore. I can’t even imagine how horrible it would be if I was about to fuck and then got this back pain and needed the bitch to like baby me and help me get into bed like I was an old man before she had to leave and probably go fuck someone else that night. Even worse is I would probably be too pent up to bow to the pain, fuck for the next 5 hours anyways, and then end up in more pain with an actual injury lmao

>>77051584
Holy fuck bro shut up you have deep insecurities we get it.

>>77051592
Uh oh ! Someone needs to up their AI ! lol throwin a bitch fit about a dude having some back pain from Cialis. This fags probably on ostarine and thinks he’s gonna be the next mr o

>>77050890
Drivel, intra scapular pain is suggestive of aortic dissection not heart attack but it is way, way more likely he's just pulled a muscle

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Am I lean enough to start?

This pic is no pump, no flex, and the lighting definitely doesn’t do my abs any favors,

Wanna start test C in 6 weeks time for a first 18-20 week cycle.

>>77051657
> has a literal bed side cuck cage

I've been out of the loop for a while, but why the fuck is Primobolan suddenly either sold out everywhere or suepr expensive?

>>77051938
You’ve really been under a rock. There was a big crackdown on raws production in China. Primo and mast are hard to come by, primo200 can be had for 150-200$ a vial

>>77051938
>big crackdown on raws production in China
omg, why do they suddenly care about this stuff?

>>77052035
Because the big Pharma companies who have the patents on semaglutide, tirzapeptide and retatrutide are mad because the Chinese are selling those glp-1’s into grey and black market sources for literal cents per mg, and those Pharma companies want to keep charging people $1000’s a month for the same products that the Chinese are selling for $10… so they’re using the U.S. government apparatus at the taxpayers expense to stop the Chinese hurting their profits

They can go get fucked as far as I care

>>77051657
You are leaner than 90% of this thread, go on

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>was about to start a cycle, everything is ready
>strained a muscle literally a day before and can't workout properly

>>77052223
It do be like that, I’m planning to start mid March, 6 weeks time, currently my knees hurt and I’ve got golfers elbow. Don’t know if I should spend 6 weeks blasting bpc and tb500 instead and nursing my injuries, there will seemingly never be the perfect time

>>77051529
Smoking is unironically the only true way to deepen the voice. Fucking Ronnie Coleman had a relatively high voice bro roids are not the answer.

>>77052223
>>77052227
Just. Take. Some. Hgh. For. Fucks. Sake

>>77052505
On 3iu ready to start my cycle in 6 weeks, wanted to get on that first

>>77051584
Fucking kek. Nevermind, I shouldn't have ever suggested you lower the dose. Now that it's the next day, you feeling better? When I had something similar once it was on the left side and onset was random. I wasn't taking anything either. That's what they checked for at the hospital. In the end they decided I was probably just being a pussy and gave me muscle relaxants and a $1000 bill. So maybe that's what you need idk.

>>77051629
Idk I'm not a doctor man they gave me an ecg first thing. From what I looked up at the time, that area is sometimes heart related. Anon's pain is on the other side though.

>>77052523
Start tren NOW. Do not delay.

>>77052302
Negro, my voice got deeper by blasting test. skill issues

>>77052709
This. Just pin in the sternomastoid for the local gains.

>>77045245
Serious question, why do you guys take steroids?

>>77052810
Because needles turn me on. I get a fucking nasty 6G pipe and jam it through scar tissue into a muscle or bone or nerve or whatever. Aspirate HARD making sure i suck up some blood vessels and shit then I just twirl that shit around and grind deeper. I blast 5mls of shit in in a one second push and hope I get a nasty cough and metal taste so i know i hit an artery somewhere. Usually i then just start jerking off with the needle still in. If it pops out i let blood drip all over the seat and floor like i do my cum and let my parents find it. I keep all my needles too under my bed and jerk off onto them.

>>77052810
I couldn't hit any PRs at the gym for years so I measured my test and I had 200ng/dl total test in my mid 20s.
Hopped on TRT first and once I got a taste for it I wanted more and more and more.
Just for the sake of progress and lifting heavier basically.
I don't see the point of lifting if you make no progress.

>>77052709
No it didn’t. You are delusional or underage

>>77052810
I used drugs to improve my mental health, so why not my physical?

>>77052996
>roiding for good health

Come on bro lol we are degenerate fraudsters abusing hormones for superhuman masculinity at the cost of years of life. It is what it is

>>77053025
Not really, you need to gameify life.

'Use tren' - 5 years
'Pound virgin straight boy ass' + 2 years old per event

Not hard to work out

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>>77053025
>he still doesn't know about the deranged China bug steroids
>(((2026)))

Does dbol really have calming properties through interaction with the GABA receptors or is that a meme?

When you're taking dbol are you then supposed to pop it in the evening before bed?

>>77052810
to intimidate and arouse my neighbor's daughter

>>77045491
nigger behavior, we should have picked our own cotton

>>77045722
>UGLs know y'all got terminal GC-MS skill issues, can't even in2 melting point testing.
What? You can't do it at home.

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>>77053136
this you?

>>77053253
No we should have defeated the cucks in the north who were willing to die for literal african slaves.

>>77053164
It seemed to calm me down, started doing half in morning half at night then started using it as preworkout an hour before the gym for pumps.

EU bros where do you buy bac water?

>>77053253
nah it's pretty based, literally entirely her fault and preventable by her. don't rob them of the chance to evolve into a creature that takes accountability. I know it's gotta happen sometime or another, evolution and shit. I agree with the latter half of your statement though.

>>77053305
this is why rfk jr needs to legalize steroids and make faggots blast a cycle at least once before they can vote democrat

Can you do little enough gear to get a meaningful enhancement but not be obviously roided? Is it even worth it or can you impress normies natty?
When I see guys who are 6+ inches taller than me it feels like I will never be worth anything if I'm not at least huge

>>77053551
At the European bac store

>>77053588
Yeah, no test. Just cruise 0.5g tren for a year to get some mass but avoiding that 'roidy' look test gives.

>>77053588
>When I see guys who are 6+ inches taller than me
ropemaxx and pray for tall genes in the next life

>>77052043
this is wrong, it was due china cracking down on fent production

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>>77046121
I was diagnosed low t at 24 but they said I was too young for treatment so that's how I ended up on roids

>>77051657
>people lift years for this pathetic natty look
on the first day ever on entering a gym, you should go up to the biggest roidbomber and ask him to hook you up. lifting without roids is so fucking pointless

>>77053758
this. 77ng/dl. a pound of raws was a fraction of the price of a single year of trt. i'm a token white suburban house dad who lives at costco. never gonna pass up a bulk deal. stupid fentanyl fucked that up. lookin at getting into chemistry now and making my own shit. i must have jew heritage. i'm that opposed to spending $1,000 a year for baby trt doses

>>77054151
ill pound you raw twink boy

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>>77052810
Journey Started with TRT, I had naturally disorder-level low Test.

One month on TRT and my life just got better. Before TRT I grinded the gym endlessly with minimal gains, I introduced TRT and gym progression was like I always pictured it in my mind. Seeing real results from the gym was actually addicting, I wanted more... so I threw in gear and higher doses of test and I'm living on top of the world, no negative side effects except for sudden aggression surges but I've yet to act out on any of them and just recognize them as a result from blasting test.

You naturally high test fuckers have no idea how good you have it, you have a literal cheat code in life.

A few questions if you will fellow gentlemen of /fraud/. After having lost 23kg and cooking my metabolism in the process, I am presently embarking on a new business venture into Retatrutide in order to help accelerate shedding the remaining 10kg in order to reach 15% to that life can finally begin.

I have done a single 1mg dose so far with minimal side effects (the feeling of never being hungry is real). My plan was to titrate up to 4mg by doubling the dosage every 2 weeks from 1mg > 2mg > 4mg and then cruising from there until the goal is reached. Do you think this is a good protocol or could I be more aggressive in my timeline?

I am also curious to how I should proceed diet wise. I used to eat 1500 calories before I stalled so after a few months I then increased it to 2500 in an attempt to reverse diet my way out of the stall but that didn't really change my weight at all so I decided to try Reta as well. My caloric expenditure is ~3000 per day for reference, I meticulously track everything and even did a DEXA to verify my BMR. Should I proceed as normal on this 2500 calorie diet or is it the case of simply using Reta to eat as little as possible? I still want to gym and so on without dying.

>>77054708
Are you butter dissolving your ret or just suspending in bac water?

>>77054743
Bac water.

>>77054758
Just affects the dose as you'll be getting about 30% inert product with water so need to factor that in.

>>77054708
Can’t help you with the kcals as I do many know enough about you… depends on height, age, thyroid, activity level, macros, training style, body fat %, lean mass etc… too many variables

However, on the Reta, don’t just increase the dose on an arbitrary timeline, up the dose when the dose you’re currently on isn’t working for you anymore. If 1mg is working for you, don’t change it. Yet.

Also consider splitting the dose for better stability, 0.5mg Monday and 0.5mg Thursday is better than 1mg once a week

>>77054761
I've used the peptide calculator to calculate the dosage based on BAC water. Idk what "butter dissolving" refers to.

>>77054763
I heard splitting the dose was a meme and actually doesn't matter but I might try it anyway.

Looking at "the science" 4mg appears to be the most efficacious dose in terms of weight loss, beyond that you don't get as much weight loss but significantly more sides. The timeline of the protocol simply titrates up to 4mg gradually over a month to minimize side effects. Is there any reason why I should just stick with 1mg with slower fat loss?

In regards to calories, I guess I'm just wondering what people actually do eating wise whilst on Reta. I understand its a triple agonist that enables a wide variety of fat burning effects beyond simply feeling full all the time to discourage NPC eating behavior. Just wondering if I should actually just eat my normal diet (which should still be in a caloric deficit anyway) or auchwtizmaxx. For reference I go gym 2 hours x 4 per week, 10k steps a day, 30 mins zone 2 stairmaster x 4 per week so pretty active and have a lot of lean mass.

>>77053302
Add a yarmulke

>>77052505
Technically speaking, steroids promote muscle recovery so I can theoretically just start pinning and, like, not working out while the muscle heals (supposedly faster)
But I ain't doing that

>>77054828
>Idk what "butter dissolving" refers to.

It's a troll

>>77052810
Body dysmorphia
And I'm, like, not joking

>>77054743
Why are you doing this?

Is it feasible to just do 1 beginner cycle solely for the purpose of lowering bf% without having to do a full-on cut?

>>77054743
jesus christ not this retard again.

>>77053715
Yep

>>77052219
I'd say 98%

>>77055554
Just use tirz or reta like everyone

>>77055554
Why would you want to put your endocrine system through the ringer of shutdown and PCT just to lose body fat?
Just cut, use tirzepatide if you have no willpower

>>77054593
I definitely resonate with this. No matter how hard I tried in highschool and university, most of my friends made much quicker progress than me. Then I got my test levels checked after university and they were low. Started enclo and haven't looked back. Constant gym progress, and I'm not even blasting, just on the upper end of natural. The idea that it's possible in the future to go even further by doing actual cycles is alluring.

>>77055554
Like others are saying, tirzepatide. I found 1mg microdose doesn't do much, 2.25mg is way more noticeable but on larger meals I can get acid reflux. I'd suggest you start on a low dose and work your way up to a dose that works for you. Nobody does just 1 cycle of steroids lol

>>77055996
I had 18 years between my first and second test cycle, know it's not just one but with the time period it may as well be. Only decided to do a second as I had time away from work and was basically bored.

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Just injected 1 ml of test and after injection I briefly tasted plastic in my mouth, has anyone experienced this? Should I be worried?

>>77056172
>TFW no fit Asian girl to blow her back out until she needs a chiropractor

>>77056172
That means you injected an artery, sorry you have 2 hours until you die of intracranial roids

After I mix Reta with BAC water does it go bad after a month in the fridge?
I got 30mg vials and if I start 2mg a week it would mean I have to throw some of it out...

>>77056275
? Just don't reconstitute all of the vials until you need them tardo

>>77056275
Oh I misread. Should have bought smaller vials.

>>77056284
What about the BAC water itself. Some say once you puncture it once the remaining water is only good for 30 days after that.
Some say to keep the remaining in the fridge, some say room temp.

>>77056275
> water suspending ret

>>77056294
Butterboy take your insanity elsewhere

>>77056275
You’re fine. They’ll be good until the vial runs out, worst case is they might lose a little potency. I’m still running some mt2 I reconstituted a year ago and it works fine

>>77056300
can I substitute lard if I have no butter?

>>77056357
Lard gives great total solution and good tissue uptake, problem is it's not as stable for long term storage. If you have a dairy allergy it's an obvious choice but I wouldn't reconsitute more than 2 weeks of ret at a time with it. Still WAY better than doing a water soak.

>>77045245
Is anything safe if I'm on bp meds for genetic hypertension or am I forced to be a lifetime natty?

>>77056580
I am on bp meds also and just don't care. If you have something to live for then maybe think twice? I expect to have a stroke within 10 years.

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My first brew was a success
Bout to start babbys first cycle 500mg test/ 5IU growth.
A few questions, would appreciate any input

Would you start a cycle on a deload?
Does RU58841 work? (my hairline genetics not good)
Any point taking a first dose bolus to reach steady state faster?

>>77056924
Yes, yes, no.

Injecting a lot at once will also spike your estrogen.

>>77056977
Thanks for the answers. I've heard about injecting a lot spiking estrogen, so I'll avoid the first dose bolus.

A couple more questions.
Will doing hill sprints fuck my heart, even if I take a beta blocker?

Will microneedling my scalp on cycle A) help from the increased growth factors etc. or B) make hair worse by bringing in more DHT somehow?

Do you guys take anything to keep SHBG HIGH?

>>77057003
Oh and one final corny but legit question.
Whats something you wish you did before your first cycle?
e.g. took before photos, measured nutsack, challenged someone to a fight in 1 months time etc.?

>>77057035
Photos for sure to track growth.

>>77057035
Dumped my ugly fat gf

>>77056172
You're probably dead already so my condolences to your family
Don't do drugs kids

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This was considered a superhuman physique in the early 2000s
But of course unrealistic beauty standards exist only for women nowadays

>>77045245
I'm on TRT, itr was from a private clinic, but now i'm in a new area and tryiong to go through the public system because money

my new doctor wants me off TestE, off arimadex, and off HCG. He wants me on testogel, 1%, two pumps twice a day. thoughts?

(public is 5% the cost of private clinics for TRT, been on TRT for 5 years)

>>77057390
lel

>>77057390
I’ve read way worse Redd*t posts. These NPCs think doctors are literal 9000 IQ unquestionable demigods. Guys getting female doctors who take them off TRT and refer them to psychiatrists instead lol

Scanned meso today. Click on any chink thread, some boomer is getting scammed on telegram.

>PSA
Please take Telegram away from your frauding father.

>>77057390
change your doctor.

>>77058742
If you want to order retareutide directly from chinks pretty sure they don’t have websites and you have to use that shit. I have been tempted but it’s too sketchy for me

>>77056289
bac water has alcohol in it to slow/prevent things from growing. if you don't see shit floating in it, you're fine
>>77056353
this. it just loses potency, and it loses it very slowly. plus you'll be increasing your dosage over time, so you'll end up going through 30mg sooner than the 15 weeks you're probably thinking it will take

>>77056580
>>77056717
i take bp meds because i blast... you're fine. might just increase your bp dose

>>77056924
oh nigga what? where'd you get raws?

>>77057003
excess test can convert to dht, so, B. why do you want shbg high? people take shit to drop it, to increase free test
>>77057035
photos, dexa scan, weight, and measurements (chest/biceps/quads/waist). measurements will be a better indicator of lean mass improvements. you'll probably see weight loss after the water retention levels out, and you'll be confused thinking you're losing muscle or something
>>77057390
>>77058744
so much this. that doctor is a fucking idiot

>>77058781
Don't ask for sources newfag

>>77058749
>chimes in on how to order from chinks
>has never ordered from chinks
Thanks?

>>77058776
The bac thing always annoyed me. Unless you are mainlining hgh or glp-1, or doing some mot-c thing, you won't get through a 30ml BAC

I've made peace with chucking the half full bottle. $9 in the trash

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>>77045343
>>77045281
It's a home rolled, whole leaf tobacco dart after leg day and some RE4 remake for me that makes life preddy good

>>77045491
>>77045523
Based, but you're supposed to do this on vacation. I may or may not have kids in Czech Republic, idk

>>77054151
>a pound of raws was a fraction of the price of a single year of trt
Did fent fuck that up too? God dammit, if I were to start blasting I would've gone down this route. I even have a HEPA filter from my shroom growing days

>>77058742
>>77058749
just use the well-known vendors and follow their sometimes frankly ridiculous requirements, wati just 2 weeks nad recieve your package

>>77056924
>first cycle
>brewing your own gear
>5iu gh on top
i see great things in your future

>>77058793
>>77058744
>>77057946
>>77057803

If it doesn't go well i'll go to a private clinic but it's $2000 a year compared to under $200 on the public system

There is nothing stopping me getting the testogel from the doctor, and then using testE and HCG i get from islamic extremist bodybuilders over the internet.

btw, he said that 12ml testicleless are normal, they are bigger on HCG than they were before starting trt.

>>77058886
haha! yeah, you're not wrong
>>77058906
yeah :( kg test c raws was under $400usd delivered. now over $1k, but good luck finding any

>>77059087
dang. i thought the clinic i use to have a scrip was expensive, and they're just under $1k/year

>>77059067
Massive infections forsure

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>>77059226
you see my issue, i am currently a full time student, $2000 is a lot of money to come up with lump sum.

so i will try the public option, and might even just go to a clinic and continue to get the public stuff as well. Testogel is good for traveling at least.

I have to have proper medical stuff because in a few years i'll be moving internationally

>>77056172
ok but seriously you might have to go to the ER

Ok but why is it not possible to make raws in the US why don't we have some insane cool home brew scene

>>77045245
I got a thing of sermorelin, it says to throw it away after 28 days, but I've gone through that and almost the whole bottle is left...? Why would they give me so much

>>77058900
Thanks for reminding me I have to hit my pen after arm day, I am so fucking excited to jerk off later I can't wait.

>>77059296
ahh yeah makes sense then. get what you can! god speed

>>77059602
most raws are made all scientificamagically, but you can literally grow testosterone at home. just won't be as pure, but still 90%'ish

>>77058793
>why do you want shbg high
Oh I thought it binds DHT and E2 as well and im taking test so my hairline should be safer with higher shbg?

>>77058781
>where'd you get raws
Chinaland. Literally don't bother at the moment though. People are even getting fake TNE. Wait a few months, things are very slowly improving

>>77059067
I live life in the fast lane

Does any other anon preemptively write a notepad file called IN CASE I DIE, explaining to everyone if i die from a heart attack from roids to hide my stuff and say I was natural and to lie about what caused my death?

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>>77059842
No, but good idea

>>77059842
My note says to put tren in the water supply at the funeral

>>77059668
Bacteriostatic water in theory only guarantees 28 days bacteria-free but desu some people say you can go up to 60 if you're not jabbing the vial with dirty needles and swabbing everything

>>77059842
Just get on a statin you retard.

>>77056275
Reconstituted reta is safe in the fridge for like 3-4 months but it heavily loses potency after two months.

>>77060064
Depends what it's reconstituted with

>>77060040
>Bacteriostatic water in theory only guarantees 28 days bacteria-free
There's a very retarded magical loophole everyone is aware about, but you aren't supposed to question it
Bac water is only good for 28 days after being punctured
Bac water solutions are good up to 40 or even 60 days
Why?
You literally won't find the answer to that
Adding hcg or tirzepatide to bac water makes it last longer for some reason
It's in the guidelines

>>77059792
oh, you might just want to take fina or duta then, right? or start minoxidil. and i getcha. i was thinking someone was selling raws already, and was surprised. also not expecting it until later this year. fingers crossed! down to my last 70g tren :/

>>77060107
buttertard go away

>>77059792
It does bind those, but E2 will usually occupy a smaller fraction of SHBG simply because it is present in much smaller quantities, and DHT is mostly produced locally in specific tissues so there's little point in increasing SHBG to bind whatever gets into circulation, since that would also reduce DHT clearance.

>>77058995
What kind of requirements

>>77060847
>format your message exactly like this or we won't respond
>only use this specific crypto on this specific network (in fact tracy updated "hers" accepted cryptos)
>the convoluted delivery costs on some vendors
it just requires more reading and quadruple checking when ordering through telegram unlike ordering through websites
or maybe it's just the chinks that are like this

>>77058995
to be honest I should've said ridiculously specific requirements

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Can anyone explain to me what Derek is on about when he says you shouldn't stack test with dbol because they're both the same kind of a steroid?

I thought test + dbol is like the bread and butter of cycles (as long as you use AI/nolva and are not an idiot)

>>77060880
Very true. It's very annoying

>>77060953
Test Dbol is legacy gear cycle, yeah it still works but I believe theres better stuff for your liver nowadays

>>77060953
Derek is a retarded faggot who even on gear achieved nothing other than bloat