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Why does the /fit/ness community have so many conflicting advice?
Like if I want to build a PC, there's a standard to which parts to get.
If I want to cook, here's a recipe. There may be regional differences and personal touches, but they're all delicious.
Fitness is full of Schizos
>fitbro gives his ab excercise tier list
>mr calisthenics reacts. "no uh, that's wrong and you'll injure yourself"
>muscle gnome reacts. "no uh, according to science, you have to do it in a perfect 87.36 degree angle instead
>roid_freak reacts. "no uh, stop working your abs."
>dr sportsman tries to sell me his plan
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>>77052038
once you realize that fitness has been solved and they need to stir stuff up and make new content out of old ideas or just bait for engagement you will understand that it's all just wasted breathe in an attempt to garner your attention.
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>>77052038
Most fitness advice does not consider the big picture. More sets gives better stimulus with diminishing returns while recovery time increases essentially linearly. If you do 2 sets 3 times a week it will absolutely give better results than 6 sets once a week.
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>>77052038
It's somewhat because the juicers get results from basically anything. Then they overestimate the effect of their training and underestimate how much of it was the juice. All those fake natties think, it's ok because I had to put in all that work, what I did works and a natty would just need to work a teensy bit harder - bullshit, it was all the juice. They don't even know how to workout and get results without the chemical assistance.
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>>77052038
>Like if I want to build a PC, there's a standard to which parts to get.
>If I want to cook, here's a recipe. There may be regional differences and personal touches, but they're all delicious.
This is not true. Go to any PC building community and you'll see conflicting advise about brands, buses, ports, power wattage, and even a ton of zealotry surrounding OSes. Same with food and health.
These fitness influencers give conflicting advice because it brings them money and attention. Fitness has been resolved, we know what works and how. Sure some things could still change a tiny bit, but nothing is going to significantly flip. Bodybuilders are not gonna suddenly start doing 2 sets and the whole scene will forever change.
Fitness like photography are limited technical fields, which means that you stop having things to talk about soon, and then it becomes either about ongoing processes or gimmicks, in the case of fitness, how many reps. And in the case of photography, what new lens is best for portraits
Spoiler alert. Whatever people have been doing and using and getting results with for the past 100 years is fine.
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>>77052038
>Im natty (trt counts right?) and took a photo under perfect lighting post pump and day long fasting
>Im a real hard ass bro
>anyway that's why you should listen to my new hot take as I scrape the bottom of the barrel for a topic that was exhausted about a decade ago
>also subscribe and buy my gay useless supplements, which in combination with my revolutionary training methodology is why I look like this
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>>77052038
1) if you're trying to make money from fitness advice, you need a niche that you say is better than every else's. and the people who learn that method will repeat the assertion as they have no idea if it's actually true.
2) biology is highly variable so you can only make generalizations, what's best for one person might not work as well for someone else
3) steroids make it so that natural biology and training methods don't really matter much
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>2 sets is king
These people are all fucking retarded bro. Its a grift to appeal to DYELs who don't want to lift. Its the same thing as telling women they can just pole dance or jump on trampolines to get in shape.
Even the legit jacked people and bodybuilders who will tell you they only do 2 sets are basically lying. Because they do "warm up sets" at a high enough intensity that any non-autist would call it a working set.
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>>77052038
The youtube content farm incentivizes people to keep churning out more content even when they've run out of content. So they have to keep making up new FOMO stuff. "Top 5 MISTAKES" "ARE TOMATOES KILLING YOUR GAINS" and so on
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>>77052038
Because lifting is very simple and grifters have to make up new and novel ways to convince newbies that they have a secret hack to gains that you can acquire for less effort, less time, or to greater effect if you pay them.
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>>77052421
>ARE TOMATOES KILLING YOUR GAINS
Well? Are they?
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>>77052390
>3) steroids make it so that natural biology and training methods don't really matter much
Not really true. You can roid all you want for less than average results if everything else is not in line.
>ACTN3 (15-20% of people don't even produce the protein and won't get big) and other protein related genes
>Androgen receptor count
>Myocite count and density
>Skeletal dimensions
>Training intensity (not enough intensity = no growth)
>training timing (too much or too little = no growth)
>etc.
You can find people who get jacked on shit you've never heard of who've never taken roids. At the same time you'll find people who have no problem getting jacked on nothing at all. Won't be as big as Mr. Olympias, but they'll get as big as some of the biggest guys before the 1940's without taking anything. If they roid and diet they'll be Mr. Olympia material.
Roids and other drugs do not make the natural biology not matter. They simply exaggerate good genetic potential and barely make up for bad genetic potential. You have to consider the reality of how many people roid and do all this shit just to look average.
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You have to divide it into two camps
>normal lifters
take notes, compare, try their different approaches and see what works for you
>roidtranny
ignore 100%
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>>77053069
I think what he's getting at is
What will get a natty jacked will also get a roider jacked
But what can get a roider jacked won't necessarily work for a natty (dumbass shit like 50 sets per week per bodypart falls into this category)
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>>77053069
Yeah but roiders can get away with not really learning these principles because of the roids.
Pretty simple. You stress your muscles and you provide them with rest and enough protein and carbs and you get bigger muscles. Repeat. Everything else is details
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>>77052169
I have an HP elitebook with an AMD CPU and yeah, it's probably one of the most efficient little laptops I have ever.
Also has 32gb of ram but I have no idea why it would need that much. Cost me 432$ refurbished once on eBay lol.
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>>77052038
back in highschool i watched One Punch Man and it started my fitness journey
i unironically did the 100 push-ups, 100 sit-ups, 100 squats, and a 10km run meme
everyday i would do two sets working up to the 100 rep range
of course push ups was the hardest but i was able to do 2 sets of 50 in about 3 months of 2 sets to failure each night
anons will cope but just doing the sets just werks tm
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>>77052149
PC users will disagree on brands and software but the idea there's different ports or busses in 2026 is silly. You have HDMI and USB-C externally, and PCIe internally. NVME is just PCIe. SATA still exists if you have an old drive. Your motherboard either has an Intel socket or an AMD socket, but that's about it.
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>>77052038
The human body is a complex system
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>>77052038
It's not really contradictory, it's just much simpler than people make it out to be, and many approaches are legitimate and work. Then people get overwhelmed by the fact that they have too many options and ask, “So what is the BEST approach?” (and the grifters respond and present theirs) even though the difference between most approaches is minimal and what is best for one person is individual.
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>>77052038
because it's a scam.
all you need to do is take some heavy weight, pick it up and put it back down, and occasionally increase the weight.
anything beyond that is irrelevant unless you are trying to be a professional athelete.
how would you made a career outside of that advice?
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>>77053672
I said it because a year ago when I was trying to build a computer I got a lot of conflicting information about getting DDR4 vs DDR5 ram. Then once I made a decision there was a ton of conflicting information on ram speed to price ratio.
And then when I thought I had made a decision I found push back to a similar build to mine because of potential RAM to CPU to GPU bottlenecks. But I was trying to build a video editing pc. So I guess it was based on my personal needs. Ended up just getting a pretty powerful laptop because I have to travel anyway.
Point is. It is not cut and dry and people are opinionated and the wrong decision can fuck your build.
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>>77055220
The only 3 answers that matter.
It's all a grift.
Bodybuilding grifters can only make money selling 2 things, supplements and advice.
Both the supplements they sell and everything they spew from their mouths do absolutley nothing to help you.
Bodybuilding IS NOT complicated, it isnt rocket science, the biggest retards on the planet figured this shit out already a long time ago, if you lift heavy weights consistently you will gain muscle, it's that simple.
These "make more gains by doing less!!!" is just the latest grift that appeals to retards and normies who spend more time scrolling youtube shorts instead of actually lifting weights
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>>77052040
Fitness has been solved in a way that people make 80% of their life time gains by just going to gym for the first year without using any diet or program, given that they don't skip training or get injured. Your starting point and what you get during the first year are genetically set.
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>>77053668
>what's the answer then
lift weights and eat food
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>>77052038
>Why does the /fit/ness community have so many conflicting advice?
Because most people don't take the time to learn what is actually required for growth. The fitness space is filled with drug users who have a "throw everything at the problem" mentality and they only cause more confusion.
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>>77052038
Because everything more or less works there's a simple formula, most popularly articulated by Mike Mentzer, that is muscle grows from sufficient stress placed upon it to trigger a stimulas, then, after sufficient recovery from sleep and food, the muscle will then begin to grow. Notice how open ended that is? We don't know the amount of stimulus necessary to trigger growth (Mike said it was best to err on the side of caution and fully deplete the muscle to absolutely muscular failure) but clearly less often works for people atleast up to a point. Fitness grifters exploit this and recommend all kinds of whacky shit that all more or less does work (to a point)
You have to stop looking at this problem mechanistically like some materialist retard, and see the programs are completely irrelevant the only thing that matters is the philosophy of fitness and what school of thought you subscribe to. If you don't have one of those, you'll be confused about fitness for all your life and you will forever be a fucking retard
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>>77052038
Because there is no objectively correct way to do fitness. Science very clearly shows that there is many MANY different ways to achieve the same results. That’s why the best fitness advice you can get is: do what works for YOU.