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Why does the /fit/ness community have so many conflicting advice?

Like if I want to build a PC, there's a standard to which parts to get.
If I want to cook, here's a recipe. There may be regional differences and personal touches, but they're all delicious.

Fitness is full of Schizos
>fitbro gives his ab excercise tier list
>mr calisthenics reacts. "no uh, that's wrong and you'll injure yourself"
>muscle gnome reacts. "no uh, according to science, you have to do it in a perfect 87.36 degree angle instead
>roid_freak reacts. "no uh, stop working your abs."
>dr sportsman tries to sell me his plan
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>>77052038
once you realize that fitness has been solved and they need to stir stuff up and make new content out of old ideas or just bait for engagement you will understand that it's all just wasted breathe in an attempt to garner your attention.
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>>77052038
Just rotate shit until you find what works for you then stick to it, once in a while slowly implement something new. It's not complicated
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>>77052038
Most fitness advice does not consider the big picture. More sets gives better stimulus with diminishing returns while recovery time increases essentially linearly. If you do 2 sets 3 times a week it will absolutely give better results than 6 sets once a week.
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>>77052038
It's somewhat because the juicers get results from basically anything. Then they overestimate the effect of their training and underestimate how much of it was the juice. All those fake natties think, it's ok because I had to put in all that work, what I did works and a natty would just need to work a teensy bit harder - bullshit, it was all the juice. They don't even know how to workout and get results without the chemical assistance.
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>>77052038
>Like if I want to build a PC, there's a standard to which parts to get.
>If I want to cook, here's a recipe. There may be regional differences and personal touches, but they're all delicious.

This is not true. Go to any PC building community and you'll see conflicting advise about brands, buses, ports, power wattage, and even a ton of zealotry surrounding OSes. Same with food and health.

These fitness influencers give conflicting advice because it brings them money and attention. Fitness has been resolved, we know what works and how. Sure some things could still change a tiny bit, but nothing is going to significantly flip. Bodybuilders are not gonna suddenly start doing 2 sets and the whole scene will forever change.

Fitness like photography are limited technical fields, which means that you stop having things to talk about soon, and then it becomes either about ongoing processes or gimmicks, in the case of fitness, how many reps. And in the case of photography, what new lens is best for portraits

Spoiler alert. Whatever people have been doing and using and getting results with for the past 100 years is fine.
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>>77052038
>Why does the /fit/ness community have so many conflicting advice?
Because 'fitness experts' want to sell you their products.
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>>77052038
>Im natty (trt counts right?) and took a photo under perfect lighting post pump and day long fasting
>Im a real hard ass bro
>anyway that's why you should listen to my new hot take as I scrape the bottom of the barrel for a topic that was exhausted about a decade ago
>also subscribe and buy my gay useless supplements, which in combination with my revolutionary training methodology is why I look like this
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>>77052149
AMD for CPU every time, fight me motherfuckers.
>Nvidia for GPU, though. Let's not be foolish.
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>>77052038

1) if you're trying to make money from fitness advice, you need a niche that you say is better than every else's. and the people who learn that method will repeat the assertion as they have no idea if it's actually true.

2) biology is highly variable so you can only make generalizations, what's best for one person might not work as well for someone else

3) steroids make it so that natural biology and training methods don't really matter much
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>2 sets is king

These people are all fucking retarded bro. Its a grift to appeal to DYELs who don't want to lift. Its the same thing as telling women they can just pole dance or jump on trampolines to get in shape.

Even the legit jacked people and bodybuilders who will tell you they only do 2 sets are basically lying. Because they do "warm up sets" at a high enough intensity that any non-autist would call it a working set.
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>>77052038
The youtube content farm incentivizes people to keep churning out more content even when they've run out of content. So they have to keep making up new FOMO stuff. "Top 5 MISTAKES" "ARE TOMATOES KILLING YOUR GAINS" and so on
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>>77052038
Because lifting is very simple and grifters have to make up new and novel ways to convince newbies that they have a secret hack to gains that you can acquire for less effort, less time, or to greater effect if you pay them.
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>>77052169
>>Nvidia for GPU
If you can even get one anymore for a reasonable price. If you'll even be able to get one at all anymore.
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>>77052421
You are now aware that every TV show suffers the same "gotta produce something even though we have nothing" curse. TV is garbage, as is YouTube.
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>>77052421
>ARE TOMATOES KILLING YOUR GAINS
Well? Are they?
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>>77052433
What did the JACKED lifter who doesn't eat tomatoes say to the incel DYEL who enjoys tomatoes?

Ketchup.
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>>77052390
>3) steroids make it so that natural biology and training methods don't really matter much
Not really true. You can roid all you want for less than average results if everything else is not in line.
>ACTN3 (15-20% of people don't even produce the protein and won't get big) and other protein related genes
>Androgen receptor count
>Myocite count and density
>Skeletal dimensions
>Training intensity (not enough intensity = no growth)
>training timing (too much or too little = no growth)
>etc.
You can find people who get jacked on shit you've never heard of who've never taken roids. At the same time you'll find people who have no problem getting jacked on nothing at all. Won't be as big as Mr. Olympias, but they'll get as big as some of the biggest guys before the 1940's without taking anything. If they roid and diet they'll be Mr. Olympia material.

Roids and other drugs do not make the natural biology not matter. They simply exaggerate good genetic potential and barely make up for bad genetic potential. You have to consider the reality of how many people roid and do all this shit just to look average.
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>>77052038
I'm glad I'm not a gym bro, looking at all these homo erotic video/photo here, I don't understand how you can watch video like that for hours and still think you're hetero
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>>77052430
Yeah, I bought a 5060ti a few months back. Wish I had sucked it up and swung for the 5090.
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>>77052038

there is no right or wrong in this game. at least have balls to develop your own training philosophy rather than having someone to decide your life.
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You have to divide it into two camps

>normal lifters
take notes, compare, try their different approaches and see what works for you

>roidtranny
ignore 100%
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>>77053031
This is actually really retarded. The principles of building muscle don't really change whether you roid or not.
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>>77052437
this sent my obliques into orbits
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>>77053069
Roids push hypertrophy, strength and recovery into unnatural levels. This is like taking financial advice from lottery winners.
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>>77053069
I think what he's getting at is

What will get a natty jacked will also get a roider jacked

But what can get a roider jacked won't necessarily work for a natty (dumbass shit like 50 sets per week per bodypart falls into this category)
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>>77053069
>The principles of building muscle don't really change whether you roid or not.
Natty advice works both ways and is best for maximizing gains, because we can't get away with as much.
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>>77053069
Yeah but roiders can get away with not really learning these principles because of the roids.

Pretty simple. You stress your muscles and you provide them with rest and enough protein and carbs and you get bigger muscles. Repeat. Everything else is details
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>>77052433
found the guy who actually clicks
i hovered over it once and felt bad
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>>77052169
I have an HP elitebook with an AMD CPU and yeah, it's probably one of the most efficient little laptops I have ever.
Also has 32gb of ram but I have no idea why it would need that much. Cost me 432$ refurbished once on eBay lol.
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>>77053069
Honestly, they do. What works for natties vs enhanced is wildly different and the effects definitely change with added drugs. Homeostasis is pathetic.
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>>77052038
back in highschool i watched One Punch Man and it started my fitness journey
i unironically did the 100 push-ups, 100 sit-ups, 100 squats, and a 10km run meme
everyday i would do two sets working up to the 100 rep range
of course push ups was the hardest but i was able to do 2 sets of 50 in about 3 months of 2 sets to failure each night
anons will cope but just doing the sets just werks tm
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>>77052040
>fitness has been solved
what's the answer then
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>>77052149
PC users will disagree on brands and software but the idea there's different ports or busses in 2026 is silly. You have HDMI and USB-C externally, and PCIe internally. NVME is just PCIe. SATA still exists if you have an old drive. Your motherboard either has an Intel socket or an AMD socket, but that's about it.
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>>77053069
>the principles of driving a car don't really change if you pin the throttle open
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>>77053665
>back in highschool
Try it now.
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>>77053668
do ss then hlm retard

oh you wont because you are a nigger zoomer
stay small then
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>>77053718
>doing legs as a man
ok will "take any length" trannyson
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>>77052040
fpbp
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>>77052169
amd is always worse lmao
it's intel + nvidia
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>>77052038
The human body is a complex system
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>>77052038
It's not really contradictory, it's just much simpler than people make it out to be, and many approaches are legitimate and work. Then people get overwhelmed by the fact that they have too many options and ask, “So what is the BEST approach?” (and the grifters respond and present theirs) even though the difference between most approaches is minimal and what is best for one person is individual.
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>>77055169
I go AMD for socket lifespan. Intel sockets seem to come and go much faster, whereas the same AMD socket is usually good for 5 years or so.

Gotta have that NVIDIA GPU because of AI now, though.
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>>77052038
because it's a scam.
all you need to do is take some heavy weight, pick it up and put it back down, and occasionally increase the weight.
anything beyond that is irrelevant unless you are trying to be a professional athelete.
how would you made a career outside of that advice?
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>>77053672
I said it because a year ago when I was trying to build a computer I got a lot of conflicting information about getting DDR4 vs DDR5 ram. Then once I made a decision there was a ton of conflicting information on ram speed to price ratio.

And then when I thought I had made a decision I found push back to a similar build to mine because of potential RAM to CPU to GPU bottlenecks. But I was trying to build a video editing pc. So I guess it was based on my personal needs. Ended up just getting a pretty powerful laptop because I have to travel anyway.

Point is. It is not cut and dry and people are opinionated and the wrong decision can fuck your build.
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>>77052412
>>77052426
>>77055220
The only 3 answers that matter.

It's all a grift.

Bodybuilding grifters can only make money selling 2 things, supplements and advice.

Both the supplements they sell and everything they spew from their mouths do absolutley nothing to help you.

Bodybuilding IS NOT complicated, it isnt rocket science, the biggest retards on the planet figured this shit out already a long time ago, if you lift heavy weights consistently you will gain muscle, it's that simple.

These "make more gains by doing less!!!" is just the latest grift that appeals to retards and normies who spend more time scrolling youtube shorts instead of actually lifting weights
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>>77052040
Fitness has been solved in a way that people make 80% of their life time gains by just going to gym for the first year without using any diet or program, given that they don't skip training or get injured. Your starting point and what you get during the first year are genetically set.
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>>77055169
It's not 2015 anymore grandpa
AMD has mogged ever since the 5800x3d
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>>77053668
>what's the answer then
lift weights and eat food
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>>77052038
>Why does the /fit/ness community have so many conflicting advice?
Because most people don't take the time to learn what is actually required for growth. The fitness space is filled with drug users who have a "throw everything at the problem" mentality and they only cause more confusion.
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>>77052038
Because everything more or less works there's a simple formula, most popularly articulated by Mike Mentzer, that is muscle grows from sufficient stress placed upon it to trigger a stimulas, then, after sufficient recovery from sleep and food, the muscle will then begin to grow. Notice how open ended that is? We don't know the amount of stimulus necessary to trigger growth (Mike said it was best to err on the side of caution and fully deplete the muscle to absolutely muscular failure) but clearly less often works for people atleast up to a point. Fitness grifters exploit this and recommend all kinds of whacky shit that all more or less does work (to a point)

You have to stop looking at this problem mechanistically like some materialist retard, and see the programs are completely irrelevant the only thing that matters is the philosophy of fitness and what school of thought you subscribe to. If you don't have one of those, you'll be confused about fitness for all your life and you will forever be a fucking retard
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>>77052038
Because there is no objectively correct way to do fitness. Science very clearly shows that there is many MANY different ways to achieve the same results. That’s why the best fitness advice you can get is: do what works for YOU.
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>>77052063
you mean work out

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