>>77056420
any GH secretologues will make you hungrier & thereby give you more opportunity to consume, ideally, more protein

you still have to workout

if you remove the peptide injection vector, then the obvious answer is to eat way more protein and workout hard(er)

>>77056420
How old are you? Height/weight

>>77056441
23, 5'6, 245

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>>77056427
Is CJC + IPA unnecessary? can I just do IPA?
>>77056441
I am 23, 5'7, 156lbs
lean muscular build, started lifting 2 years ago more or less from 120lbs~ but only really seriously/consistently maybe last couple months due to sickness/other factors
>>77056443
not me but surprisingly close


highest weight i've managed to reach is 160-163~ roughly(pic rel) but this primarily done through fast-food, nowadays I'm cooking my own meals or eating out at quality places. Tried BPC-157 to help with rotator cuff injury I got in BJJ but it didn't really do much and was expensive - just prefer things focused on muscle growth primarily rn to get me to my ideal goal weight of 175-185

>>77056443
Use retatrutide to lose 20% of your weight while you lift and cardio every day for a year.

>>77056478
Bpc-157 + other blend like KLOW for any soft tissue repair.

>>77056443
If you HIIT at you age you'll have all the T you need but get your bloods done at ulta or qwest to include Total T, Free T, Hemacrit so you have a baseline. Dont do any sarms or TRT. Just too soon. No alcohol, watch carbs. Reta will help stop the food noise and get you to a sub 200 weight. That is #1 mission for next 12 months for you.

>>77056478
Getting big is diet and genetics and takes years. My buddy who is a body builder told me a few year ago when I had been lifting, he said you need to lose weight because it "wrecks the effect". He was right. A year later and 50 lbs less I look better and can barely see abs. I will never be "big" at 185 like a really big dude, but I will look muscular. So I am now 5'10 205 putting on as much bulk as I can then final cut in March to 190. Reta helps me dial that weight in and it makes me want to eat good things. Its driven by hormones 100%. I wish someone told me that at 23.

>>77056569
i was just memeing on op earlier and now I feel bad for it because people are being more or less genuine in their advice. I'm actually 22, 5'11, 250, though I suppose most of the same advice applies

>>77056581
Im 60 and take TRT, not to get big but to recover like im your age so I can train harder and more often. To get really big I'd have to add gear on top of the T and its not worth it.

>>77056443
>>77056590
bro cooked my thread

>>77056590
Ok you are exactly my size. 50lbs off using reta by October 2026. You'll have a 35 waist. Skipping rope will boost your T and bone density, it will feel like murder until 225. But you will lose a pound or so a week if you reta and train at same time. One mg per week for first 4 weeks, 2mg per week for weeks 5-8. 3 or 4mg per week after that as long as the weight keeps dropping.

>>77056626
looks like it's out of reach for me at the moment, maybe i can get on it in another year or so. hope it's soon because the food noise fucks me up

>>77056652
Out of reach?, nigga, get grey market shit. Its cheaper than the food you wont be eating. Show some agemcy. Get on fag ass red dit or discord and get a source and not these iggas selling it for a fortune. This is your life, not a rehersal.

>>77056420
>Wanting to look like this
No better than a tranny honestly

Who has a source for sr17018