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So Obviously, Bale was on some kind of PED's to get that much muscle in such a short amount of time. But how long would it take a serious lifter of his height working out 3x a week doing compound lifts to get his Physique? He must be around 85KG here
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>>77057831
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>>77057898
Never change /fit/
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>>77058179
one night of clubbing will suffice [spoiler] if you snort venezuelan marching powder on the toilet, get on the wrong side of a drug deal, and end up in the jungle for two years where you have to fight for survival [/spoiler]
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>>77058205
So? It's not like your muscles magically vanish when you eat less and don't lift, they can shrink in volume but unless you're literally starving yourself to death your body won't eat muscle, you can easily bounce back to full volume within a couple months of eating and training.
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>>77058234
>I guess to say it's not a small feat.
It's really not that hard, I had a medical issue and stopped lifting and eating properly for almost 2 years and dropped almost 40lbs, got back up to full weight after just 6 months of eating 3-4 times a day and lifting again, because muscle doesn't just disappear as long as you keep eating at a baseline where your body isn't in complete starvation.
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>>77058282
Yeah losing fat is probably the hardest part, cardio helps a lot, you just have to fill your entire day with activity to burn as much calories as possible, I was never really fat because for some reason my body just doesn't make a lot of fat and my job is 10+ hours of physical activity which is basically just free cardio, so most of the loss was just muscle volume, I was always a real skinny kid which is why I started lifting in the first place, it's pretty much the only way for me to be at a normal weight and the extra strength is just a bonus to help with other things in life. Good luck to you though, wagmi.
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does this look like eating at a baseline?
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>>77058305
The cool thing about your body is that if you do less you need less calories to sustain yourself, which means you can eat less, he probably took it easy to drop his TDEE to a minimum so he could eat very little just to not enter starvation mode.
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>>77058179
i wasn't joking. that physique in the OP should not take more than 6 months if you know your anatomy (muscle insertions and know how to put active ROM on them with constant tension), physiology (mainly nutrition and manipulating your insulin sensitivity), a proper training principle that is reflected in progressive overload, and proper rest. 4 years can get you an IFBB pro card and potential eligibility to enter mr. olympia like this picrel. if you go to his youtube and watch him train, you will understand. he was also randomly dope tested at olympic level to prove natty status. this is like studying or gaming. if you wanna be good at it, study like like u want to climb up in game rank or like ur studying to get into med school.
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>>77058531
So, how would you do it anon?>>77058531
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>>77057898
>>77058179
Assuming advanced or elite lifting iq and somewhat athletic, maybe inner chest and outer triceps would be difficult. This looks like less than or about half of bale's natty limit besides those in particular.
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Nta but even this steroid user here isn't as crazy as you think. Put like 5-15lbs of pure fat on him and it doesn't seem as ridiculous. Basically training less effectively will not only yield slower gains but also to a much lower cieling especially when it comes to nailing a workout, how often based on how advanced, and diet gets way more important later on. The only thing that gets easier is that by then you have more muscle maturity and tendon strength, so hypothetically late intermediate-mid advanced(to your actual "genetic max") can be a lot easier to breeze through whereas once nearing elite your progress will actually begin to noticeably slow down again assuming you're doing everything actually 100%.
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>>77059824
>wide grip heavy arched military press but push with chest
>narrow enough and narrow lower incline and flat
>hold the weight further out and/or down to hips depending on incline/flat
>squeeze shoulders and or elbows together
>brace by rotating in with wrists/elbows/shoulders to easily get upper chest on incline
Honestly my weak point because it takes little work to keep proportional. I'm working on inner chest and overall thickness. You should definitely get a sick pump trying these techniques and combining them or some shit I'm drinking trying to figure out how to get massive delts in my lifting lab.
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