>>77058841
You will do lots of cardio that's no secret if I lived in a shithole city I'd do it everyday

>>77058844
That's for sure. I'm worried about groceries and being sweaty before work

>>77058848
get the radwagon and when you go to work just use the electric motor

>>77058841
People who bike to work generally have shorter distance commutes than most people. Try biking to your job on a day off to see how long it takes and how much exertion it takes. You can buy a cargo rack or baskets to go on your bike to carry groceries.

>>77058855
Ill look into it. Thanks bro

>>77058868
I checked Google maps, and it's apparently an hour 30. I don't know if that's normal for bikers lol

Any idea how I can carry a 28lbs bag of dog food?

>>77058875
You'd have to get a rack over your rear tire. 30lbs shouldn't really make that big of difference

Pros:
>cardio
Cons:
>stinky
>insufferable
>get hit by a car
>probably communist

>>77058890
>>get hit by a car
Can't I just stay on the sidewalk?

>>77058896
That's illegal in most places, whether it's enforced is a crapshoot

>>77058908
Cringe lawmakers

>>77058896
no, it's illegal

>>77058952
>>77058908
I think it's legal in Austin TX, where I live

>>77058841
Bike bro by force here
I fucking hate it, I gota pedal over 12 miles every day, and that’s just to work
Not to mention you get completely fucked if it rains, it’s hot out or you gotta carry a full bag of groceries

>>77058969
if it is, it's still extremely obnoxious for every pedestrian. I'm sure libtard austin has bike lanes.

>>77058969
>run into a pedestrian
>get shot
such is life in texas

>>77058983
Lmao I'll just weave left and right to avoid their shots
>>77058972
It does, but I don't feel like learning how to traverse the roadways. I'll just yield to some hobo on their motorized scooter

>>77058970
What's it like riding in the dark?

>>77058875
A three hour daily commute is kind of much, don't you think? Like, even an hour to and from work would be my cutoff unless you're training to be a cyclist or some shit.

In addition to cargo racks and baskets, make sure to also have a repair kit on your bike for when the chain breaks, or you develop a flat. Wear high-visibility clothing, a backpack, and a helmet. Get lights for riding in low light conditions. Get a bell to alert pedestrians if you're going to cruise the sidewalks. Get fenders to help keep water from splashing on you and anything you're carrying.

>>77058875
If you are in a city, your maps may not be accurate, you can take shortcuts, cut through alleyways etc, you don't have to stick to the road.

All cyclists will hang on the day of the rope, along with non-whites and the Anabaptists. These fuckers crawling along winding country roads with a 40+mph speed limit are a public hazard.

>>77058841
You sweat a lot in hot climate

>>77059080
I'm sure it's a lot, but I might not have much of a choice. I'll keep a note of what you wrote. Thanks bro
>>77059089
I'd have to experiment. It's 16 miles away from me, I know that much

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>>77058841
How far?
My commute isn't far, I don't sweat or anything and I don't even realize I'm moving my legs, I just kind of arrive at my destination.

don't they have a whole board for exactly this question?

>>77059097
sounds like they're doing a public service
get off your phone and pay attention while you drive

I would add to the cons getting grease stains on your clothes and needing to plan your commute with worst case scenario mechanical failures in mind. Bikes are probably in the x100 times more unreliable than cars per km range, perhaps x1000 or more. If it's a short commute it's a good alternative for good weather days though. Especially if you have a nice alternate path that goes through nature.

>>77058997
>I don't feel like learning how to traverse the roadways.
If you're biking 90 minutes or more every day, you're going to have to.

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>>77058841
about 6km. I would like to ride but I have to share the road with these cunts

>>77058841
My problem is that it's cold and snowy 6 months out of the year here.

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Used to ride or skateboard everywhere before I had a car

Pros
>improves quality of life
>It's fun

Cons
>Smell like shit everywhere you go, even if you pack a change of clothes
>Changing clothes or showering every time you arrive somewhere isn't practical
>Getting groceries is literally shit, you either have to do multiple short trips, or load so much shit it's tiring as fuck
>Hope you don't like frozen groceries because they'll melt before you get home
>Risk of your only method of transportation being stolen everyday unless you can keep it inside
>If you get a flat tire, hope you're not on your way to work
>Less time for literally every else

Honestly was fun at times and I don't know how I did it for so long, but I'd never want to do it again

>>77060057
Oh. And I didn't mention how fucking awful it is in winter.

Rain, freezing cold. Arriving home soaked and having zero energy. Waking up after a shit sleep and knowing I've got a 30-40 minute ride in the rain and fucking gale just to make it to my wagie job, just to do the same thing again in 6-8 hours when I'm tired as shit.

Hope you have other options.

>>77060057
I ride my bike to get groceries. You need panniers that bring the center of gravity low and make riding easy with the weight, but I'm also lucky that the way home isn't hilly.

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commuting on bikes sucks donkey balls you'll see
sometimes i ride to get groceries so i don't need to start/warm up my car for a short trip but biking is best recreationally

>>77059881
16 miles. Google maps claims it's an hour 30

>>77058841
>shopping
you will need a spacious backpack and order the items on the checkout conveyor so that the heavy items are at the bottom and stuff with aluminum platines that can damage and leak like quark have to be at the top. unfortunately you also have to go more often. approx. 2 times as often as if you'd haul your week's groceries by car for me personally.

>work
we have showers at work. I bring extra clothes or have them in my locker. my communte is 20 km and there is a 200 m hill in between, otherwise flat and it is quite easy. I used some online tools to find the best / fastest route with the least elevation and it ended up mostly alongside a river. route should also not be on roads outside the city where cars have no speed limits. cars are managable in the city but you should avoid roads where they drive with overland speed

rain sucks, you need fenders that cover at least 120° of the wheels, there is no way around it. I have detachable ones

dark is no problem, I have 2 times the same light set and one is always charged, just front and back

I'm using those clear eye protection goggles that you use in metal processing, they are great against mosquitos, rain, wind and cold while it's dark

>>77058896
No, you're more likely to get hit by a car while crossing the street than while riding in the street.

>>77058972
>if your town has bike lanes it’s a libtard city
>>77058890
>if you ride a bike you’re a communist
So awesome how now even riding a bicycle is politicized

>>77060272
Biking 3 hours every day in all weather. Yikes.

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>>77058841
Get a Giant Talon whatever you can afford. 1 is the most expensive, its what I have. Road bikes are a meme, 700cc tires that pop if you sneeze.

Any good mountain bike, with a rack and ortlieb panniers , can carry like 80lbs at a time without stressing the frame at all.

Look into some of the guys that do bike touring and bikepacking if you want ideas. Only downside is you have to often be on the same road as drug addicted retarded 75iq caroids sipping their goyjuice, puffing their goysticks, staring at screens while going 100km/hr.

But I live somewhere with rail trails everywhere so I dknt have to deal with that bullshit. Also touring bars/butterfly bars are way better than other bars. Your wrists will take a fucking beating still though, wear gloves

I only ride a bike becuase I don’t drive since I’m an autistic loser. I commute 3000-3500 miles a year. I’d say the biggest problem with biking is the extra time it takes, and then of course weather situations. And not to mention the drivers. But it is nice to get exercise while you actually get somewhere unlike a stationary bike

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>>77060798
Youre not an autistic loser because you refuse to pay 3000 a year in insurance, $1.50 a liter in fuel, 2k a year in maintenance to sit on your ass and go places you dont need to go.

Youre an autistic loser because you define yourself as one. Im an autistic winner. Chin the fuck up

>>77060809
Europe kek

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>>77060813
>sees dollar sign
>is American
>sees a metric unit
>sub 85iq
> assumes Europe
Truly an unbelievable understanding of the world you Americans have

>>77060365
Interesting. Could you elaborate on the flaws you've found and tell me if you still recommend it?

>>77060569
4chan

>>77060791
I've been looking at the mountain bikes at Walmart. Idk much about bikes, so I started there. They aren't that expensive. You think they're good for a 3 hour trek across concrete 5 days a week?

>>77060798
Considering the flaws, would you still recommend it? Even with the cars hunting you down?

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>>77060057
This is the experience you get if youre 30kg overweight driving a kids bike you bought off Tyrone for the price of a rock.
Get a real bike, stop being fat, get panniers, get captcha (exactly 2 stars with 5 spikes)

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>>77060937
Like Ozark trail ones, maybe. Get a hardtail. Giant is kind of like the Toyota of the bike world if you can find one used. Check second hand sites first, new buys are kind of a meme because so many fats buy a good bike, realize they're innately slovenly, then try to sell it.

Giant talon 3 will be like 700 canadian brand new, and it'll be put together right. I dont trust jimbo the pothead who peaked at 23 putting together walmart bikes for seven bucks an hour. Make sure whatever you get has spots in the back for a rack. You dont need fancy ortlieb panniers, rockbros or whatever amazon brand are fine enough, but ortlieb do have a lifetime warranty. You dont want to use a backpack is the main thing, it throws weight off , makes your back sweat.

>>77058999
get a good headlight and it'll be easier than driving, but scarier because drivers are shit at night

>>77058896
check your state and city laws. It's completely illegal in a lot of places, or sometimes conditionally legal. the ideal is if you can find a bike path separate from the roads but those are few and far between unless your city takes biking seriously.

cutting through parks and parking lots can be helpful

>>77059115
>16 miles one way
>an hour and half one way
you'll want to kill yourself being a "super commuter" whether you're going by car, bike or autogyro. Get an e-bike at least to cut the time down until you can move closer or get a car.

you should try asking in the cycling thread in >>>/sp/

>>77060954
Sounds good bro. Thanks for the insight

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>>77060937
Oh three hours, can you give it to me in km? Because chances are it'll be more. I average 27km/hr on a loaded hardtail over hilly terrain. 3hrs a day is ebike material. Make sure you spend enough time fitting the bike, and buy one that's proper sized. You will want to die riding even an ebike that's not properly adjusted that long.

Go talk to your local bike shop, they'll help you.

>>77060957
Thanks for the insight bro. I might look into getting an e bike. Hope they aren't expensive or... "American" looking...

I'll ask around in /sp/ after this. Might make a another post in /adv/ that goes into more detail regarding my situation

>>77060966
It's a 16 mile trek to work, which is apparently 25.7km. I'll have to figure out a place to give me a bicycle 101 course lol

>>77058841
I used to bike all the time but a black man stole mine so.

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>>77060962
Also cycling is kind of like a whole ordeal. Theres the bike itself, the gear, maintenance of both, cycling skills and awareness, fitness. You have a lot to consider when youre not just doing it for fun here and there.
Cheap little tool set, few months of paying attention, and a repair kit, and you can basically fix anything. I never go to my LBS for anything, bikes are the most user friendly piece of equipment to tweak and repair. You need a few specialized things for a few specialized jobs, but the rest of the time its literally like an Alan key set.
Hardest things to do are probably bleeding hydraulic brakes because its just a pain, or replacing a bottom bracket, but both are 15 minute jobs.
UCSB has a manual they use to train rich peoples kids to be bike mechanics in a week. Here https://bikeshop.as.ucsb.edu/files/2021/08/AS-BIKE-SHOP-WEB-MANUAL.pdf

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>>77060974
>>77060977
When I bike in the summers and average about that distance I need to eat close to 4000 calories to maintain my weight. 6'2 180. Dates are amazing.
But that would be 2hrs for me on my bike, and more like 1.5hrs on a proper road bike. I guess road bikes are 12lb or something, my hardtail unloaded is more like 30.

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I also live in a homogenous white area , so I only use picrel. But if you live somewhere richer in the cultures of this great big world, get a u lock in addition to a good chain lock.
Watch a video on how to properly lock your bike up.
If I wanted a new bike, I could steal three or four a week around here. And id never have to pay for rims or tires either lol.

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biggest pro is that i can drive completely fucked up on the bike on all kinds of substances. The legal alcohol limit is comically high in my country for bikes and on other drugs the police doesnt care either, if you manage to atleast hold youself somewhat upright on the bike and dont get in the opposite lane

>>77058841
>Anything I know before I start doing it?
If you drive like an asshole I will hit you with my car, and the local pd won't say shit about it.

>>77061010
I think if here you get caught drunk cycling you will also lose your car licence.

>>77058841
Pros:
Fun
Feels good
Excellent cardio
Makes fat cunts in cars seethe

Cons:
Sweat
Rainy weather (if you need to be dry otherwise cycling in the rain is kinda fun)
Nogs will steal your bike
Assholes in cars will literally try to murder you

>>77058969
Even if its legal to cycle on the sidewalk its obnoxious and you'll be slower than on the road where you belong. With a decent bike on the road you could probably cruise at like 20mph if you're not a bitch, so your 16 mile commute should only take 45 minutes or so. Throw in some all out sprints to save time and for extra fun.

>>77061183
I'll study bike traffic laws if I have to

>>77061193
In most places vehicles are banned on the sidewalk, and a bicycle is a vehicle therefore it belongs on the road and is subject to the same laws as other vehicles. Enforcement tends to be pretty lax though, motorized scooters are a fucking menace on the sidewalks... But the road is a better surface for riding on anyway. Also, go with the flow of traffic not against it like a nog... Unless it's a like a one way and it makes your commute shorter or more fun then fuck the traffic laws. Also acceptable to msotly ignore stop signs and traffic lights if there's no cross traffic, and also riding across sidewalks, grass, medians or whatever is acceptable if its fun or expedient. But in general stay on the road and more or less obey traffic laws when they're not too much of an annoyance (they do technically apply to you).

>>77060924
if I wouldn't priorize lifting at the moment I sure would recommend it. I don't do it at the moment because 40 km/day is too intense for my recovery demand.

the biggest flaw is time demand for shopping and organization with clothes and showering for work.
but generally, I recommend it if you already have a bike so you can do it at least a few times and see how it goes. the sense of achievement and claritiy you have in the morning is similar to lifting before work and you get to experience something new.

>>77060272
>>77060977
My commute is also 16mi each way, and I bought a bike to do it
So far I haven't actually commuted it yet though, it's cold and wet and shit here atm
I did cycle the route on a weekend just to check and it took me 1h20m or so, including one or two pauses for a sip of water. The cycle was okay, the route for me is a long cycle path through woods and fields
Oh actually I only went 14mi, I didn't go the last 2mi down to the office, so yeah I'd expect to take about 1h30m, and cut that down once I learned the route and get used to cycling (and it gets warm)

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>>77058841
It kinda sucks until you get enough fitness to climb hills. So about a year of constant conditioning.
Discard this post if you live on some flatlands.

>>77061169
but why, shouldnt they condone it when you opt for bike instant of car when you are drunk?

>>77058841
>cons
too many retards driving will kill you. I only ride on some streets for exercise (road miles), and on streets that are wide and have bike lanes, during off times. And numerous times old people or asians drive in the bike lane thinking its just antoher lane and almost hit me. I ride at the very edge of payment sometimes in the gutter to stay out of the road (road is connectors to other bike paths where cars are not allowed or to dirt trails). Cars run red lights, cars speed up and turn right in front of you hitting or almost hitting you because they cant judge speed or distance. Work trucks and trailors with shit hanging off the sides several feet.

>>77061572
Would you still recommend it?

>>77060569
>now
cyclists have always been insufferable anticar urbanist fags who support every far-left cause celebré but it's "making it political" to point that out lol okay

>>77061583
4chan

>>77060940
ok fag

I was not overweight (grossly) and I used sub $800 hard tail mtbs. They weren't shit.

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>>77059980
On narrower roads with no bike lanes, you end up having to slow to their speed (way under the speed limit) while waiting for an opportunity to pass as opposing traffic continues at normal speeds (over the speed limit, of course). And you have to plan way more time to pass due to the extremely low speed, so you have even less opportunities. And groups of bicyclists often bike in long lines, exacerbating this even further. Even worse, they seem to like to form a host of shorter lines with barely enough gap between each grouping for a car to be in, if it were even safe to pass a small group and squeeze in behind the next one and then pass again from there next chance. Instead you need an impossible amount of time before the next oncoming car, which you can't even judge because the corresponding distance you'd need to see is not visible around the curves. Traffic backs up behind them, whole thing is unsafe.

Obviously wider roads and especially dedicated bike lanes would help, but these places don't even bother with sidewalks in the actual towns. You can be the most liberal-minded cycle-pilled person and still hate the situation, especially when it's not like these people are commuting. It's like an impromptu parade, but instead of warning people and closing down roads you're expected to weave between them and oncoming cars.

>>77058896
Only niggers ride on the sidewalk

Besides being possibly illegal, the real danger is crossing roads because drivers aren't really expecting a bike to pop out of nowhere on a crosswalk

>>77062390
are the high heels optional?