Hello, fatass retard here. I'm starting reta soon, tried tirz but It just made me really sick and I didn't lose more than 5 or 10 pounds on it. Anything I should know or supplement i should take while on it.

what's your stack, age, and retardation level?
me:
>400mg test, 200mg deca
>19
>100%
I am pro-trump

OH YEAAAHHHHHH
BROTHER
RUNNIN

HCG COMES FROM FEMALE PISS

>>77199293
If you were sick how did you not lose more weight from not eating? Reta start with a lower dose, 1mg, to adjust. And maybe a different source. Worst side for me on reta are diarrhea and insomnia. Tirz was constipation and fatigue. Supplement with metamucil and extra protein, everything else is a wash.

>>77199437
yeah its like semaglutide where its 1mg for 4 weeks 2mg 4 weeks etc
at which dosage did you start getting those side effects? how long did you stay on?

>>77199583
I got up to 10mg, was on for a few months. When I got off I grabbed the wrong peptide bottle at one point and gave myself like 2.5mg and it made me unbelievably sick. Side effects were near immediate for me.

>>77199736
>I grabbed the wrong peptide bottle at one point
kek I pretty much did the same thing once. taking hcg and bpc-157 and I pinned the hcg twice (500IU). made me a grouchy bitch and sleep like shit for the following 2 days.

>>77199306
>400mg Test, 200mg Tren, 12.5mg Dbol, AI, 2mg Reta
>30
>75%

So was injecting yourself with anabolics worth it bros?

Would you go back?

If you’re taking GLPs remember to take fiber supplements and maybe eat a fucking vegetable

>>77200848
I wish I started in earlier desu.
>>77200863
Usually 2lbs of veggies to bulk up meals in size. I dunno how normies never eat vegetables.

>>77200863
Fiber, protein powder, multivitamin.
Still haven't figured out how to stop the hair shedding while on reta. It's not even in AGA zones but everywhere across my head and I'm already on fin.

>>77199306
1g test, 600mg EQ, 300mg deca, 50mg var, ancillaries: 8iu hgh, 5mg cialis, 500iu hcg eod
45
two undergrad degrees in hard majors and lots of technical jobs but still at least 51% retard

>>77199293
>>77199583
Let me put it this way. Whatever dose of tirz you were on made you sick. There is a dose of reta that is the same GLP and GIP as the tirz you were taking that will also make you sick.

Don't just blast reta, you should titrate up. Start with 1mg/week for 2 weeks, then go up to 2mg for another 2. If you're still hungry go up to 4 but at that point you should wait 4-5 weeks before increasing your dose. It takes that long for the effects to accumulate due to the half life.

Also if the dose is close to what you were taking for tirz then be extra careful. For example if you were only on 2mg tirz for 2 weeks then you should do 4 weeks at 1mg then another 4 weeks at 2mg if tolerated etc.

Personally for me, I started to notice effects at around 2.5mg and I'm in a good spot at only 3.5mg. It's a mixed bag because I don't really find joy or excitement in food anymore and don't look forward to meals. Cravings and hunger are rare.

>>77200892
Lower your dose, that's how.

I always wonder about the people who get sick off of GLPs. Like are you actually reading the syringe right? Are you actually sick or just nauseous?

I did 4 weeks 2.5, 7 weeks of 5mg, 2 weeks of 6 and now I’m on my second 7.5.

I did get nausea on my 1st week of 7.5 but that’s it. If anything the Anhedonia is what sucks

>>77201132
My theory is that it's mostly goyslop withdrawal. Think about it, the obesest people literally can't help but inhale every morsel of sugar that is within a 30 second waddling distance of them. Their digestive system is reliant on that level of slop being constantly forced down their gullets. GLP sends a signal their whole body is the antithesis of and GIP puts the brakes on their gastric emptying which fucks with everything on top of them eating way less food. There is likely a mental aspect too, their brains have been programmed to seek out and get dopamine from food and now that stimuli has been massively reduced. Exactly like withdrawal.

The craziest thing is you don't even need 5mg to get solid weight loss if you actually have the will power to diet and be a little hungry sometimes.

> 250 test
> 125 primo
> 3iu gh
> 2.5mg tirz
> 6 days a week gym
> 240g protein 160g carb 40g fat

This is going so well. holy fuck

>>77199282
How do I become a tren twin and bang Sara Safari?

>>77201157
You might be on to something. I don’t eat sugar, I don’t eat fast food, I eat actual food not frozen goyslop

They just might be going through a withdrawal.

>>77201232
Not only that, but radically changing the fuel that your gut biome gets will also mess shit up. The delayed gastric emptying plays an effect too. People like us who use it on top of a diet rather than slapping their diet on top of the drug are going to have a radically different experience while taking it and after taking it.

What's a good dose of Enclomiphene for PCT?

>>77201258
25mg is the highest dose that will meaningfully affect LH, anything more is a waste. 12.5mg is a standard dose. Note that a higher dose won't necessarily get you higher test but for PCT specifically you want to get LH as high up as possible.

>>77201264
Thanks.

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Thanks Claude

>>77201286
@grok is this true?

>>77201187
shes a disgusting pajeeta sand monkey, have some self respect

So will Cialis actually make my dick more
Veiny and larger when flaccid?

I heard it’s good for pumps but i don’t need a sensitive dick

Finally found a source last night. I’ll meet you there big dawgs.

>>77201347
Yes? I wouldn't say it's larger when flacid, but I definitely notice its more girthy (not by a lot but enough to notice it when I know what it looks like without Cialis) and veiny yes slightly. More blood flow to it so you are semi-chubbed up constantly and super easy to get rock hard just by being even remotely aroused. Dick not more sensitive that I have noticed I still cum as normal time versus not on Cialis.

Lads me nips have grown a little bit. I’m 1 week into my first cycle (300mg Test C) it’s not like they’re sensitive or anything, they’re just kinda a bit fuller. Is this normal?

okay what the fuck. 600 tren first few weeks was all horned up. other day it just like... fucked off. sleep went to trash. no energy during the day. i'm takin asin. did my e2 go too high? more asin?

>>77201395
only thing happening in week one is you're retaining more water

>>77201401

Yeah nothing I’ve read points to any big issues early on. My nips are normally a bit flat if anything so they kinda look better ngl

>>77201423
careful half the guys here are gonna want your phone number

>>77201463
lol phone# what year is it unc? want my email too?
tittyanon please add me on discord

>>77201399
How much Aromasin are you taking per week dosage schedule? Purely Tren no test base or other compounds?

So I have a hank hill ass. Makes me nervous I’m going to fucking hit something

>>77201399
600 tren? No sleep is normal. Even microdoing that shit at 50mg fucks sleep.

Also tren doesn’t convert into estrogen. If that’s all you’re taking you probably crashed your estrogen with the aromasin

>>77201504
Hit RDL’s more, I started incorporating them into my leg days and noticed an improvement of my buttocks.

>>77201513
Flat ass runs in the family. Grows slow as fuck. I’m could probably use an insulin needle and pin the muscle. Not a long dick needle

>>77201516
Then just pin elsewhere lol? I havent used my butt cheek ever.

>>77201399
Just tren? You crashed your e2. Get ready for hell

I've been on trt for a while, slowly gaining. Pretty happy with everything. I've done dbol many years ago, and it seems now the consensus is its only as good as you're on it and possibly the most hepatoxic. I'm reading through a lot of profiles on orals. Any recommendations in terms of safety profile? Obviously they all have risk. But it's not that important to me to really over jeopardize health.

My main goals are strength and some size. The strength goals are mainly just to add to size. I use ralox like 2 to 3 times a week just because I'm a high estrogen converter so the e2 conversion isn't a huge issue. But just wondering from the older frauders if they have any advice.

>>77201527
Orals specifically you are limited but Dbol is loads better than most for strength and size, Anavar is super cool too but look more into it see if it matches your check boxes. If you can manage E2 with Dbol then you can pretty much do any orals.

Easiest way to get wegovy in europe?

>>77199306
For me
>750 test, 400 deca
>21
>69%

>>77200901
Nice stack, damn. A gram of test is wild.

Just finished a 16 week cycle of 1200mg test, 600mg primo, 600mg eq + 50mg anavar, 40mg tbol, 25mg proviron daily. Really underwhelming considering the amount of shit I was on. Only thing that really felt like I was ‘on’ was the vascularity from the var and the only sides I got were a bit of shedding and my cardio suffered a bit. Think it’s time for tren next cycle boys.

>>77201903
>boys
its just you. destroying your endocrine system.

>>77201919
Currently or in the future when I try tren? My bloods are fine.

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>>77199282
WHERE IS ALL THE MASTERON?!!!!
IS THERE SOME KIND OF SHORTAGE?

>>77199583
I had both sides on reta starting within 72 hours. Tirz the constipation within 72 hours, fatigue didn't kick in until 9 months or son when I hit the 10mg dise. The gastro sides are easy to control with fiber or magnesium. The fatigue and insomnia are more debilitating

>>77201501
cruise dose test c. asin is who knows. i dump 2 or 3 6mg spoonfuls into my mouth twice a week and call it a day

>>77201524
i have some hcg. that'll bring e2 back up, right?

>>77202309
well wise has mast but he just shut down again because of a second crackdown this year

>>77199282
>6 months into taking gear and I already have developed homosexual urges
>make a grindr account because I want to fuck a qt twink
>almost everyone on the app is one or more of the following: old, ugly, black, fat
>forget about it for like a week
>20 yo male cousin who I have met maybe 3 times messages me on facebook saying he saw my profile
>after initial hesitation I confess that yeah its me and we joke about how 90% of people on there are gross
>tells me that I am "using the app wrong" and that he will give me some pro tips if I can give him a ride home from his work later that day
>trying to ask about app on car ride home but he keeps changing subject
>gets me to come into his apartment, immediately offers me alcohol
>next thing I know I am unzipping my jeans and he is blowing me
>sucks me off for 30 minutes, feels great but I can't cum because I am drunk
>make plans to meet up again next weekend
not trying to blame the gear but I 100% would not have done this if I hadn't started using
I got a boner just typing this shit out
you have been warned

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>>77199293
>Too retard for tirzepatide
>changing to the meme reddit influencer tiktok master drug: Retatrutide
Many such cases

>>77201264
For how long? Is 12.5mg EOD for 4 weeks still the standard?

>>77201527
Oxandrolone is the less harmful. The worst oral is probably Superdrol.

>>77202496
Yes. Or dbol. Or TNE...

>>77202494
I need numbers retard, your "cruise dose" isn't the same as Ronnie Redditor's cruise dose of 75mg a week. Don't play with doses of Aromasin you will crash your shit easily. If you are only running 100mg of Test + 600mg Tren and 12-18mg of Aromasin twice every week you probably crashed your E2.

>>77200848
Microdosing is, if you actually think about it and realize you are going to taper off at some point due lifestyle changes. But it will lack the gainz.
Actually doing it is worth it until you taper off, and then its a very Catholic kind of suffering.

>>77201399
>>77202494
>18mg aromasin weekly
>for a low test cycle
The Eternal Zoomer cycle (utterly retarded doses and no clue what you're doing)

>>77202331
Dose is too high, try dieting and not being a fatass instead of pushing more of the drug. It's really that simple.

>>77202524
Until recovered really. I crashed myself and recovered fully after 1 week 25mg 2 weeks 12.5mg my LH was 8.3

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Seriously how do I avoid getting my face fucking annihilated by roids?

This guy is like 35 years old and he used to be normal looking

Fuck it I've been cruising for too long
Was gonna start 500 test/500 EQ at the beginning of May, but bloodwork's already fine so I'll jump straight to 500 test tomorrow and start the EQ a week later, might front load a bit since my test should already be quite high (currently on 250 mg)
Gonna run this shit as long as bloodwork is acceptable
Was planning on running some tbol at the end and at the beginning, can anyone think of other good additions to this cycle? Was thinking maybe some peptides to keep my joints going, or perhaps some MK677 (don't wanna fuck with GH yet) but combined with EQ the hunger might be too much

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>>77202710
Roid with ecdy instead of AAS and do serious skincare. I'm around the same age and don't have even the slightest hint of cheek labias, still get carded on the regular buying bougie fruit wines despite frame-mogging around half the dudes in WWE.

>>77202710
Stay away from primo, mast,Tren,Deca,Dbol,Ment,anavar,anadrol,winstrol,halo everything

Just do TRT doses. Actual TRT not 200mg a week. If you’re getting sides it’s because your body is too stressed. 150mg a week is plenty. Do labs and adjust as needed if test is too high.

Get on finasteride,Minoxidil or duta and pray. Buy Korean skin care, sunscreen, and collagen.

>>77202710
>average millenial who thinks he looks 17

>>77202710
dont do steroids

>>77201286
>28% strength gains on a cycle that weak

lmao

>>77202530
i do want to try dbol.... buuuut i dont want to order anything right now. gonna spend enough on legal paperwork, and getting the kid's summer stuff going. need to chill on spending for a bit :/ thanks for the recommendations

>>77202555
160mg, but sounds like i should halve the asin. ty
>>77202583
i'm 40, and retarded. prl was high, so i hopped on asin hoping to bring it down. p5p only brought me down a slight bit, and i think the prami i have is bunk

>>77202806
deca for joints if you're blasting anyway. and that sounds like too much eq for that much test

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>>77202951
I just picked up some Asin to use the rest of my Dbol I have stocked up, can't fucking wait to blast again fuck this cruise bs I NEED MORE TREN

>77202828
why is this indian retard shitting up fraud now

>>77201286
How do you measure your cum strength? I can measure the volume but when it shoots idk how strongly

>>77202959
Nah that ratio works fine for me, E2 slightly above upper limit and I like it there
Might look into adding a small amount of deca, what would you say is a good dose? 100-200 mg/week?

>>77202834
Under TRT test with high deca makes my skin beautiful though
No fin needed for this either, I just run telmisartan to prevent heart issues

>>77202997
200 test 100 deca? Something like that?

I think it will still accelerate your nasolabial fold development a little bit but nothing drastic like that fag who was a real bodybuilder probably on horrific doses of tren and shit

>>77202710
Is it possible this is from his sleep apnea mask? lol seriously

there should be /fraud/ for women called /ozempic/

>>77202999
Checked, you really have no idea wtf you’re talking about lol. GH hormone is whats fucking people over in that department, i had water in my fingers for the first time in my life when I ran it. Terrible.
>>77203022
Fr, its even worse on the girl side cus non of em have any semblance of nutrition

Is anyone else's stuff stuck in customs?

>>77199282
To anyone who is going to ask about "Where do i get it"

I am finally going to give you the real fucking answer.

Go make an instagram account and follow + like as many obvious fucking roiders as possible. Within a day or two you'll start getting ads from online services you could order from.

I am not fucking joking at all. God bless & good luck.

>>77203034
>gh hormone

you are probably right though. The massive water retention and some people have also speculated that it literally grows the skin which contributes to wrinkles. Im sure the back of his head is also all wrinkly and weird

>>77202999
No, 50 mg test and 450 mg deca
No hair shedding, perfect skin and hair, even had less beard and body hair growth so I had to shave less often

If you properly managed E2, used several supplements like antioxidants, fish oil, magnesium, etc, kept your diet in check, did proper cardio regularly, and maybe even added some other prophylactic measures like telmisartan/nebivolol, how long could you theoretically run 500 mg test wihout encountering any major issues/accumulating considerable cardiovascular damage?

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>>77202978
Cum into one of these

>>77203086
Lot of guys do it for years even without mitigating the risk. If you don't have bad genetics you could probably do it for decades. If you think about it, obesity is way worse for your cardiovascular system and severely obese people can live well into their 60s. Sometimes even into their 80s.

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>>77203126
Ferroptosis is the main mechanism for androgen-excess-related heart diseases, especially the steroid-related variant of hypertrophic cardiomyopathy. Picrel.
>protip: lots of weird supplements pump the brakes on that shit

>>77203086
Running 500 year round is retarded and only dead people ran that. Some influencers go 5-6 months then drop down to TRT levels. But even they get fucked up.

I ask think you people overestimate the actual effectiveness of vitamins

I’d argue that 150mg for an entire year is better then 1-2 cycles a year

>>77202994
100 is the cruise for joint health dosage i routinely read

>>77203059
lots from what i've read. bunch of ugl's are having to change shippers

>>77202966
make trenny proud!

>>77203133
>I’d argue that 150mg for an entire year is better then 1-2 cycles a year

150 is a standard TRT dose lil bro of course it’s more healthy than doing heavy cycles wtf are you talking about

>>77203163
RAISING MY KIDS RIGHT

>>77203161
Its over jfc

>>77203275
it's always something. just stick to domestics. the spice will always flow

Why are you people buying overseas? Is your $15 test worth the headache?

Just use a domestic shipper

I'm on 200 test and 200 tren (200mg p5p no caber). Sex drive is okay, nothing crazy but was hoping it would be stronger. What should I do? More tren?

>>77203832
I’ve never seen someone run test and tren 1:1.
Usually 2:1 or 3:2

Your test might be too low

>>77203832
How long so far into your cycle? I was a horn dog on 200 Tren with but with 500 Test though, I am always a horn dog even cruising but yeah I think that your test dose is pretty low.

>>77200848
Yeah, being natty fucking sucks. why would you stay natty wtf

>>77203849
>>77203907
Really? I have read guys say low test is best with tren to prevent sides.

>>77202710
High doses of HGH, look at his overgrown vagina skin folds and of course tren.

Does masteron at TRT dosages sound retarded to you? I have always had a puffy baby face my whole life, even with 200mg of test c TRT. I look 5 years younger than my age at 25 and I don't want to look like a little bitch anymore.

Thinking of doing 100mg test c with 100mg of mast e instead of just 200mg test c. Proviron has 0 effect on me.

>>77203956
Well you have a side effect from it now, called "being a low T pussy with no lust for breeding a slam pig"
I am sorry but it is fatal, and the only cure is upping your Test dose to at least 400mg/wk. I have never heard of anyone with a good rep or history of bodybuilding advocating for low T w/ Tren for side mitigation.

>>77203956
You know the whole going gay grindr and fucking land whales is a meme for a reason right?

If you want to avoid the majority of sides you take test and micro dose tren. Example there’s an influencer who does 150 test, and 50 tren a week

I want to dabble with this shit but I don't want my dick and balls to suffer or be fucked if I ever stop taking.

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Can 500mg of test cause your temperature to spike to 101f?

>>77204007
Should I just double both? Really like the look I get with tren.
>>77204041
I wasn't expecting to lose my mind but I expected to want sex more than twice a day. I feel much hornier blasting test and dbol.

>>77201157
>if you actually have the will power to diet and be a little hungry sometimes.
If you're still feeling hungry on GLP1 you're doing it wrong.

>>77201716
Legal route: prescription from your cheapest online doctor

>>77204073
Ball shrinkage can be negated, sperm count is a meme by jews to stop you from getting big (depending on your age and area in life you could always freeze your sperm at a clinic or do fertilization therapy if you have a stable wife and want to have kids soon) Your dick will be fine if anything better, unless you take fuck shit compounds like high dose Deca.
>>77204082
I never checked my actual temperature but I know your body heat rises for sure I was cooking like a lobster all winter didn’t need any pajamas or clothes to be cozy when it was -2F.
>>77204089
Depends on if this is your first Tren cycle and how long and blood work. 200mg is magic sweet spot for a ton of people anything around 300+ the sides get wicked and the risk aint worth the reward. More isn’t always better and I know you probably aren’t doing blood work but watch your sodium intake, manage cholesterol, check blood pressure.
A lot of it depends on your experience and side effects, height weight BF% cycle length etc, but anon was right a 2:1 ratio is kino, 400mg Test 200mg Tren + ancillaries like AI.

>>77204094
No. It's fine to have some hunger so you don't go the whole day without eating and lose all your muscle. Unfortunately easy access to this drug has made people spew complete insanity all over the internet. Influencers just blasting 5-10mg are fucking morons who don't know what they're doing. See the multiple people ITT saying they're getting really bad side effects with the drug and somehow don't know the solution is to take less. A little hunger is far preferable to fucking up your sleep or ability to recover. You don't want to lose weight at too high of a rate from blasting this shit because some of that weight will be muscle which sets you up for failure in the long run. Fattiest become dependent on this drug because they don't know how to manage hunger or diet at all. If you're enhanced you can get away with more and make gains but you still need to eat to get big.

>>77204094
Depends. On tirz you can be starving and won’t feel shit.

Reta doesn’t suppress food noise as well just allows you to eat smaller meals.

Which is why bodybuilders take Reta so they don’t lose as much muscle. Obese people should be on tirz

>>77204094
Im always hungry on ozempic (from a doctor not chinese telegram shit). I am just less hungry. I can brush it aside and keep working instead of being overwhelmed by it

>>77204082
nigga... no. refilter your oils

>>77203978
I too am cursed with a baby face and would like to know a way to get rid of it that is not growing a beard or going super low bf and looking emaciated

>>77204361
this is some monkey paw shit if I ever read it. Do not fucking age your face bro. Get lean, try going super low carb and no sugar. Chew gum all day for jaw maxxing. Make sure you aren't low test.

If all that really doesn't work then maybe consider the masteron thing or CAREFUL deployment of diuretics

>>77204361
And I doubt you would exchange your baby face for leathery, wrinkled skin caused by steroid and 19NOR abuse

Just age gracefully. Stay lean and protect your hairline. Steroids are not going to grow your jaw and cheek bones

>>77204370
>Just age gracefully
Nah I'd rather look like an intimidating roided up goblin than keep looking like an old 13 yo

40 year old, lean, natty here
(Except 3iu hgh, which puts my igf1 in the high 300’s)

Normal natty test levels (500-700 total)

Don’t want to do the conventional 500mg blast, I want to take 250mg a week (with every day injections), year round, through bulks and cuts etc, stability in the low supraphysiological range….

Anyone see a problem with this? All my 70 blood markers on a comprehensive test are currently in range, naturally low blood pressure, impeccable lipids… what will be the first markers to fail me? Hct?

Ideally I want this dose to put me at like 1500, with 300+ free, 400+ igf1… and I don’t wanna have to adjust it or blast and cruise

>>77204399
I have been on 200mg a week for years with no real problems. I have to take telmisartan and I take a quarter of an anastrazole a week. I think it accelerated my receeding hairline a little but I am jacked and feel good otherwise.

>>77204412
What was your blood pressure change? And what t levels does tha put you at ?

My starting blood pressure is 105/55

>>77204429
My blood pressure was high before starting. I dont trust fags with low blood pressure I think you are a natural beta and therefore need even more roids than me

>>77204429
How little do you weigh? Thats a skinny runners type bp

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>>77204436
I’m on the top of the current body thread as well… the OP post

I’m 6’4 188 at the bottom of this cut, I’m about 210 bulked up

I’m 40 years old and definitely no runner, I had a background as a long distance cyclist, because I was good at it not because I tried hard, my BP is perma low and HR is 50-60

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>>77204433
Betas don’t look like me at age 40

>>77204444
checked digits

you really have nothing to worry about then. Run that 250 test. Get bloodwork after 3 months or so. Then just yearly

>>77204452
Gonna try it, starting in the next few weeks I think, I’ll report back how it affects my upcoming bulk

Thanks anon

>>77204399
Probably best to start at 150 or 200 a week (with daily injections) and then work your way up to 250 (if needed) getting bloods done as you go. I say this because 150 a week puts some people above 1000.

Also, for your strategy, I'd recommend finding a dose that you can use without needing to use an aromatase inhibitor, you don't really want to have to take an ai for the rest of your life if you can help it. Some people need to use an ai on quite low doses and some don't need to use an ai even on high doses, there's a lot of individual variation, so find what works for you.

>>77204399
Yay another "confirm my biases and tell me i don't have to do the basic newbie cycle because some fitness influencer is trying to sell high trt doses from their men's health clinic"
It's sort of in the in between area of a blast and cruise, which is not great 2bh
Your individual response would probably dictate whether the negative sides outweigh the benefits and which markers go high first and how much
Maybe you respond well, maybe it's a slightly higher cruise dose but your bloods are garbage and you don't feel any enhancement, there's no telling
You potentially could need AI at this dose, which you don't know how much of it you need because you haven't done a legitimate cycle to figure AI dosing which is also somewhat individual
It's just all a big fucking maybe and string of questions that are hard to find out at 250
Very good chance you shutdown yourself for a big waste of time at bad blood pressure and cholesterol for minimal actual gains
Basically it's a bad idea for all the reasons ppl recommend 500mg a week noob cycle
TLDR yeah it's a bad but not catastrophic so do what you like, you'll figure it out eventually

>>77204444
>6’4 188
Nice you look much larger than 188. You're just on test? What do you cut with?

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>>77204468
It looks big because I’m lean, and I have a good frame. And good lighting. I’m not on test (yet) and my natural levels aren’t even great. I am on 3iu hgh tho, because it helps me sleep and it helps you burn fat in a cut. Most people who are much heavier than me are simply much fatter. I have attached a pic of me at 210 for reference, you wouldn’t call me fat in this pic? However I lost 20lbs of fat from this

>>77204456
Thanks for that advice, I have thought that myself… but I do want the dose to be worthwhile, and I do hope it puts me at 1500 ish, doubling my natty levels. IF I got a crazy response from it, I’d probably finish out a 24 week run on it, and then drop the dose, if that makes sense. I’ll be getting plenty of bloodwork to dial all that in, I’m kinda just hoping I’m good with e2, based on being lean.
>>77204461
My blood pressure can only get better from here, my lipids are perfect, so I’m at a good starting point. At my age, I have no interest in blasting and pushing so hard on the food and the gym that I get injured, I just want enhanced natural recovery. The ability to bulk and cut and have perma high test. I will defy the faggots on Reddit just because I hate them

>>77204461
I mean it’s all possible. But in my case, where I feel like I have the training dialled in, the food dialled in, the sleep dialled in… I don’t see how adding 250 test is going to result in no gains, I mean, I’m already making gains, the gains will presumably come a little faster with some test. I’m very patient

>>77204483
Your shoulders say you've taken something at some point. Especially at 40.

>>77204494
Thanks, but aside from 3 months of hgh, I have not.

My natural test comes in from 500-750 depending on if I’m cutting or bulking or shitty sleep or whatever, so it’s not doing me any favors really

I’ve had 7 vials of test c sitting on the shelf looking at me for months, and I just ordered some pins the other day - which is one step closer! But I’m a cautious motherfucker. I’ve had 3 sets of ‘pre cycle bloodwork’ done at $200 a pop and still haven’t taken the plunge

>>77204502
I hope you have your AI and PCT on hand and read the above wiki and gone to the forums

You’re going to shut yourself down regardless what you take.

No one knows what your test will be. Some people take 150 and end up in the same 1000s, some people take 150 to end up at 500

>>77204510
I have everything ready and I’ve done a lot of research,

Maybe I’ve been too influenced by Todd Lee recently, but his ideas make sense to me

If you can make progress on 250 and 3iu then why overload yourself with more and fight with e2 and dht the whole time

Anyway, the forums do not agree with the Reddit model of ‘500 and shut the fuck up’

If I do 250, I can always do 500 another day

I understand I’m getting shut down, I’m not planning to pct, that’s why it such a big decision for me

Its a sublingual dbol only cycle again...

>>77204773
I CANT FUCKING WAIT TO GET SOME DBOL PUMPS IN ONCE MY AI GETS HERE AHHHHHHHHHHH

Hey lads quick question. I just started 300mg of test E two weeks ago. Is it normal to experience between 5-10 pounds of water weight right out of the gate? And how long does it usually take for the body to taper this water weight back down. I’m a bit frustrated because I was sitting at around 12% body fat before the cycle and know I look noticeable softer even though I’ve continued to eat at a deficit.

I have 5g of Test E and 200 tabs of Dbol for a cycle (along with AI and pct)

Heard contradictory things about when the dbol should be taken or if they should even be taken together at all.

I was thinking:

2 weeks 50mg dbol
2 weeks 50mg dbol 500mg test
8 weeks 500mg test

Any advice about taking or mixing these?

>>77205247
There is no better or worse danger in mixing them versus running them by themselves offset. Half the dose in morning half the dose at night to stay steady blood levels, or use all of it as preworkout.

>>77205247
>12wk cycle
lol lmao

>>77205015
>it normal to experience between 5-10 pounds of water weight
Yeah
>look noticeable softer
Your e2 is probably too high. You're gonna hold more water blasting but if you're visibly bloated it's an e2 issue.

I know you can't take Fin with Deca but can you take it with Tren?
I know it won't do anything to Tren induced hair loss but I figured it is better for the hair if you do test + tren + fin as opposed to just test + tren.

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Are peptides basically just growth hormone because I’m seeing overlapping effects

>>77205509
no.

So if I move away from my 3 day pin schedule IM, and start doing daily with slin pins should i just do SubQ or continue doing IM with the 5/8 tip and push deeper to hit muscle versus the 1” syringes i have been using?
I want to consolidate my needles from 3cc 25g 1” for gear and some Reta/BPC as well into… 31g 5/8th slins?
Maybe the captcha will fucking load eventually

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>>77205517
Stop doing roids faggot holy shit
Injecting yourself and taking slin lmao
Not even getting paid to do it

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>>77205517
Stop taking roids faggot
>Injecting yourself and taking insulin
>doesn’t even get paid to be a roided freak with enlarged heart
>instead of injecting every three days he wants to inject daily lmao
>thinking this will get you attention but it won’t
Enjoy your shortened life span faggot

>77205525
>77205523
I’m not taking insulin you natty DYEL coper lol you get no (You)s chud

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>>77205517
>>77205525
>>77205540
Just sounds like some roid selection skill issues to not get the opposite effects, picrel.
>t. does those new-fangled trans-insect pills

not reading that AI slop

>>77205557
Fine, go look it up on some /sci/ paper database, or don't and just keep pinning boomer gear until ur heart in2 'splode.

>>77200892
>Still haven't figured out how to stop the hair shedding while on reta. It's not even in AGA zones but everywhere across my head and I'm already on fin.
telogen effluvium from not eating enough. probably unavoidable if you drop your calories low enough.

Tell me

Was it worth it? Sterilizing yourself and becoming drug addicts? The sides?

>>77205774
yes
>t. 2 kids

>>77205774
Most roid or ex roid bros are infertile or at least severely sub fertile. As they usually are insufferably proud and stupid, they brag about having children and being the exception to that rule, never once questioning if they are the father. Most of them are cucked and the child is not theirs.

>>77205774
Most roid or ex roid bros are infertile or at least severely sub fertile. As they usually are insufferably proud and stupid, they brag about having children and being the exception to that rule, never once questioning if they are the father. Most of them are cucked and the child is not theirs.

how do I stop jerking off so much cruising I am so bored and just need to CUM

How long can I run tren for

>>77206256
Realistically: up to 20wks
Normally: 16?
Personally: 30wks
I would run 200mg forever if I had better organ support, or you could microdose indefinitely. Dose dependent, sides dependent, body organ dependent.

>>77205855
probably unpopular opinion here but if you have the downtime available nothing wrong with blowing loads.
As long as you don't have some stupid cum related guilt complex it wont slow you down in the long run either.

>>77206280
In my opinion if you have a wife or GF and you are fucking her CONSTANTLY it just tends to make them extra loyal and devoted to you. They can handle it. Be sure to use lube though even if it feels like she has no problem getting wet or whatever.

>>77206280
it’s more interpersonal reasons than wanting to stop or feeling guilty. i LOVE long passionate fuck sessions but the woman taps out too quick so i want to not last too long from jerking off that day earlier. (our schedules don’t line up often so its hard to gauge when i will get to coom in her)
ideally just getting that sensitivity back i was gonna do it once every 2 days and edge a bit on off-days.

>>77205855
Stop watching porn.

Now source talk is illegal but where do i go to research finding a good cheap source got a couple things i need tadalafil and test

Should I take t3 fasted in the morning?
I know it is important for t4 but I've heard mixed things about food messing with t3 or not

>>77206610
Just type in anabolic forum or steroid forum and go to their sources. Simple

>>77199282
He was a BIG motherfucker. I mean, BIG. 24 inch arms. I have nice arms at 15 and change.
24!?
FUCK.

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/zNJ4j4L3N1U

Hulk was a BIG motherfucker. 24 inch arms!

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/Anmo_msArJ8

>>77206357
I will but I see so much lewd sexy stuff on insta/4chan and IRL that I internalize it until goon time, so I think I will just do cardio or core when I get the urge to beat my shit like it owes me money.

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I look fucking crazy on tren bros. I don't even take my shirt off at the pool anymore because the moms stare at me.

>>77206871
I startup Tren again next week I AM SO FUCKING EXCITED LIKE A KID ON CHRISTMAS MORNING BRO

>>77205517
31g is probably too small for IM and for most oils.
29g is slow but doable with MCT oil which I think is one of the thinnest oils, and 29g is pretty painless. Handles peptides ezpz.
13mm is a good length

>>77207279
think 29g 0.5” slins would work for both SubQ peps and IM mct? I already heat it up but thinking I should just SubQ everything and do daily injections.

>>77207823
yep this is what I use and it works for both

>>77207823
drawing with 29g slins is a pain in the ass. you'd need to heat the mct forsure in my experience.

>>77207828
>>77207834
appreciate it, will have to grab some then I am kind of tired of my current gauge and depth setup.

Sorry I need to lurk more, it's my first time ITT. I have a recent hip injury and it's making it every hard to do my job and play sports.
I'm going to try BPC 157 and TB-500 but I simply have no idea how to find a reliable online source. I keep seeing all these website but can't tell if it's legit or Chinese bootleg shit.
How do you know who to trust?

>>77207944
Literally just ask ChatGPT

>>77207823
yes it works but
>>77207834
yes its slow as fuck and a pain in the ass
also you need to have a lean muscle site to use them for IM because they are only half an inch long
the best part about using them for IM is way less PIP and way less scar tissue build up
>>77207944
sounds like you need some sort of website that acts as a community powered source discussion
you will find it e-ventually

>>77207834
no you don't I do it every day with grapeseed

I'm gonna fucking do it. I'm gonna hop on.
How is 500mg test and anavar as a cycle?
I'm fucking fat at the moment but I have decent amount of muscle. Should I cut or just maintain and recomp? Honestly I'm probably verging on 30%bf.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IQ9-P0ncR1A

I watched this last night. I think it's actually a very good video people should watch. He goes over the science of how tren, and other roids work. Bruh...

He says one of the interactions w\ the molecules is basically that it gives you "girl brain". And shuts off your testosterone. So you may be stuck taking this shit for life if you do get on. I think he did a very good job of explaining that though, and referencing how it makes people hyper sexual, and that many people have reported "changing"...

You may hop on tren to get ripped, and then next year you're gay.

>>77208065
You don't need anavar.

Do you like Mast Primo or EQ better paired with Test?
What ratios worked best for you?

>>77208079
It's true. I'm gay now because of tren.

>>77208107
me? im a deca chad. Reasoning being it kind of blunts the androgenicity by occupying 5ar and androgen receptors with its weak metabolite. Practically speaking it just makes my joints feel good and gives me that full, classic bodybuilder look. 2 to 1 test to deca

>>77208065
>Should I cut or just maintain and recomp?
Considering you are fat as fuck you should cut.

>>77208065
Buy tirzepatide not steroids. Not Reta. Tirz eliminates food noise better then Reta

You’re going to give yourself gyno and high estrogen with your fat. Read that wiki above. Do steroids at 10-13% body fat

Either cut or bulk. The majority of people who attempt body recomp either get fat or stay the same. You’re not going to build shit with a daily -1k calorie deficit.

>>77208065
>Should I cut?
no lean person ever had to ask that.
You are morbidly obese, however.
I recommend further harming your health with steroids that will create additional stress for your cardiovascular system.
Be sure to post pics.

>>77208107
Primo > Mast > EQ
Never tried EQ but heard plenty of stories about bad sides. Not sure why anyone would use EQ in 2026 unless you want to thicken your blood or nightmaremaxx.
Had a better experience using Primo 100 compared to Primo 200. Obviously had to pin the 100 twice as often.
Mast felt like a less chill version of Primo.

>>77208440
EQ is a true performance enhancer. It cranks endurance like nothing else. For performance Mast can't compete. For pure aestetics I found EQ was way better for vascularity but Mast was better at drying me out. Never tried Primo.

The ultimate 'superman stack that I loved was moderate test, moderate/high EQ, low NPP. Strong, endurance through the roof, joints feel good and lean gains.9

I look amazing but am still a retarded incel. What do?

>>77208065
bro you do NOT want to take Anavar if you are fat because it will make your hunger insatiable
get your bloodowork done and go from there
you can do test at 25-30% bodyfat and have success but you are going to be aromatizing hardcore so instead of var get adex or some shit
rationally if you thought that YOU taking anavar was a legitimate good idea you probably need to do more homework before (You) take anything

>>77208452
well thank you for sharing your experience
for reference I am honestly too scared to try EQ, Tren and a couple other things folks on here talk about so casually

>>77207980
I seen people use delts, I might do that I am around 15% BF with good definition of the deltoids. Or calves if I am feeling adventurous. I think 25g is slow when I started with 23g lol I think of it as therapeutic when I am slowly slowly watching the plunger go down as I increase pressure with my thumb.

>>77208495
using 29s you gotta push equal parts air into the vial
then when drawing you have to tilt the vial diagonally downward; grasping the vial in your non dominant palm while grabbing the top of the shaft of the syringe tube with your non dominant finger tips for stabilization AND THEN pulling back on the plunger with your dominant hand using your pointer or middle finger on the "wings" to keep it from sucking back down (or up I guess in this position)
its a bitch first few times but turns to a normal tedious once you get the hang of it
100% worth doing if you are BnC because 23g 1 inchers gave me so much damn scar tissue in comparison

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>>77201179
thats pretty kino but why run when tirz thats best for appetite suppression? Id think either reta or no GLPs at all with that goated stack. Maybe to overcome gh hunger but I've never ran it

6'4 200lbs, 300mg test 150mg primo here

>>77208576
Now that I think about it, I do a lot of outdoors stuff where I am gone for 3-5 days at a time in the middle of the woods, so maybe I do daily but then a fat pin the day before I am out of the house? I forgot about my hobbies during spring/summer/fall...
>>77208609
Primo as hyped as I hear? It sounds super good on paper but I haven't had first hand experience yet.

>>77201179
I'm gonna run this Test Primo GH stack but the guys on Meso have me worried that it's going to crush my E2

>>77208576
When I draw with a 29g, I just stick the needle in the vial, invert, pull the plunger all the way back, hold it with my teeth and put a peg on the plunger, then carefully set everything down, angling the vial so that the air doesnt get into the needle.

Then I just walk away and do other stuff for a few minutes while the syringe fills up.

>>77208734
You could just get a 22g draw needle and be done in seconds...

>>77208462
Have sex. Just post a shirtless pic on dating apps. You'll get something.

peptidebros... everything paused

>>77208612
It makes me very dry and it's great for E2 control, but that's mostly it, which works for me.

My hair is finally starting to recede for the first time in my life (31 now) and I've been on this stack for like 8 months straight, so I have a sneaking suspicion that primo isn't helping, so I may drop it to see.

>>77201179
how do you eat so much protein on trizepitide. 240 is huge. Are you drinking 3 shakes a day?