My t14 gen 2 still hasn't shipped. Not even a label print on the tracker. Fuck this snow. Expected delivery was supposed to be 26th-29th.

>>107968833
A delayed shipment is better than not having power.

>>107968894
It's not coming from the south, they're in michigan. The ram I ordered the next day already shipped.

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I'm really considering this one. i7-13800H + 32gb + 4060 + 1TB nvme + 1440p

>>107969154
It seems like a pretty great deal. Just be safe, FB Marketplace can be weird.

>>107969154
That's a great deal if true

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I was replacing the thermal paste on my T520 and I have no idea what this piece is lol

>>107969692
you could watch a teardown on YT and hope it shows up

from the shape maybe something touchpad / trackpad related? but I have no idea.

>>107969720
Maybe. I don't think whatever it is seems all that critical. I thought it might be something to do with the speaker

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Brand new (shitty) glob applied though and this old gal is ready to become a server laptop.

>>107969692
Maybe it's a Card reader slot cover?

thinkpad t14 gen 3 for $200 a good deal? i5-1235U, 16GB ddr4 w/ open slot, t1tb ssd.

>>107970280
Yes, very good as long as it isn't beat to shit and cracked

>>107970296
alright that makes sense
right now I'm trying to get the p16 gen 6 listed here >>107969154 on fb marketplace but I'm guessing someone else will probably be quicker than me to get a response and buy it and if I can't get that one I'm going to try to get the t14 gen 3 and just remote into my home desktop instead of worrying about a graphics card and save my money

>>107970304
You really don't want a graphics card on your laptop desu. Unless you can plug it in and you need to take it to and from work it just hogs up space. I have a huge msi laptop with a 3060 that just isn't good as a laptop and I only take with me on long trips. The intel xe will be fine and you'll still be able to run plenty of games, just buy another 16gb of ddr4 for it to run in dual channel. If you were wanting it for 3d modeling or game design though it won't be great to not have a gpu.

>>107970350
honestly I don't even want to play games. As long as I can open the editor for unreal/unity and godot, and do basic 3d modeling in maya/blender/houdini, that's fine by me.
>If you were wanting it for 3d modeling or game design though it won't be great to not have a gpu.
that's exactly what I need it for. Nothing crazy, I'm not going to set it down and start a 16k render and then get up and come back later, but like basic stuff in the editor etc.

>>107970477
Consider a p series with a quatro if you don't get the 4060

>>107970485
in that case the best I see is either p14s gen 2 1165G7 48gb for $450 or Gen2 1135G7 2.4Ghz 16GB for $275, both with a T500

>>107970485
Oh I forgot they renamed them to things like RTX A2000/4000/5000 and just RTX 2000/3000/4000 etc. But look into those ones, they're the quadro but newer after they dropped that naming convention. They're made for modeling not gaming

>>107970505
I see one with a 1185G7 & 16gb at $300 too, which seems pretty good.

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>>107970505
I misled you with the old name for the workstation gpus

>>107970531
oh, yeah I've used those before. my current one is a library p14s gen 5 with an rtx 400 ada, but I have to turn it in every 60 days and replace it for a new one which is a pain, plus there's so much endpoint software on it monitoring me that I can't fuck around with. I like the small 35Watt graphics cards they put in laptops that only really cover low level stuff. I've done some work on planes and long flights or on holiday away from my PC a number of times.

>>107970516
>>107970505
>T500
Also check the cards specs, the a2000 supports dx12 and vulcan and the t500 is only dx12. Memory bandwidth is much higher on the a2000 too

>>107970544
Oh gotcha, see what you can min max then for $600 or less especially between ram and the gpus features.

T480 is the best Thinkpad of all time

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>>107970641
uhhh that's the t420

>>107970692
x230

>>107970641
I like my T480 more than my T520 or X220T. I honestly find it easier to repair too. Trying to get those old thinkpads apart is like pulling fucking teeth in my opinion.

>>107967139
I just remap PrtSc to Menu (and Alt+Menu to PrtSc). It's really the only key I miss from the classic keyboard.

>>107970641
Too weakly built for that title t bh. Posting this from my T480 with all but one of the front clips broken from opening it just three times. My T14G1 flexes more but doesn't have little bits of plastic dropping out whenever you open it.

Where the fuck are the Panther Lake carbons?

>>107955288
Reposting my post about my temps.

>>107968769
>>Oldest that won't choke on the modern web
>Light use: x60
>YouTube, Gmail etc: xx00(s)
lol lmao
maybe if you close everything else and use only a single tab

>>107975240
YouTube at 720p is perfectly fine on my T500 even with a dozen other tabs open.

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when will all Thinkpad look like this

>>107976267
AHHHHH WHERE IS THE CLIT I HATE THE ANTICHRIST

>>107976267
I don't even like the clit but that's absolutely soulless. and I'm still glad the clit exists because I use the mouse buttons that come with it (with the trackpad though)

>>107968833
They got it in the mail, will be here Thursday, God willing. 16 more Gb ram will be here Wednesday, already have the 1tb pcie4.0 nvme. I will be installing fedora xfce, reaper, vlc, photoshop cs6 via wine

got my hands on a gen 1 ethernet adapter

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Are there any guides to installing Libreboot/Canoeboot on an X200 Tablet? Every guide I look at only covers the regular X200 and the BIOS chip is in a different location on the tablet.

Only mention I've seen of the X200T is from a dead Reddit post and someone saying Leah Rowe knew how to do it but there's no fucking archive.

Might be a long shot does anyone know if is there any mobo of the X270 that accepts both NFC and smart card reader.

Or I might be dumb and didn't see it in the mobo, but the HMM also don't specify where is the NFC port in the mobo.

>>107978790
It's the same mobo as the X200s.

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I failed to get the last 4 used thinkpads I reached out to get and just discovered my university has thinkpads at the surplus auction. praise the lord. I can actually get one.

Should I wait for Panther Lake Thinkpad or buy Lunar Lake if it drops in price?

>>107980472
>Buying any stinkpad straight from Lenovo after the RAM price hike

>>107980168
Do you have any guide/diagram for th X200s? IIRC the board doesn’t use SOIC8 and the chip is usually on the other side near the RAM slots.

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What's the best way to find replacement parts without trying to rip your hair out due to search results being filled with shit quality chinkium? I'm trying to get a replacement battery (if possible) for a T420s along with a keyboard replacement in Japanese. How do I find em /tpg/ ?

>>107981146
Buy a brand spanking new unit with the parts you want and take them out.
The xx20 are so old there's no one making parts for them but the chinks. For batteries it's even worse since originals are likely to have degraded in all that time.

>>107980783
https://libreboot.org/docs/install/spi.html#wson8

>>107980783
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=QJ_OxJPuxrk

>>107970834
W520 and T420 are easy to take apart
T540p, X220 are hard to

>>107982125
>T540p
Honestly feels like they designed it to spite people who don't read the HMM

>>107968769
What is the oldest Thinkpad that would still be good for daily browsing like banking and shopping?

>>107987006
T60

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>TFW using the iGPU in the T14 Gen 2
Man. I never thought I'd live to see the day where an intel iGPU was actually decent for any sort of 3D gaming. Or literally anything. Does my heart good.

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>nu-shitpads

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Do gaming laptops have more travel in their keys than thinkpads now?

>>107987735
Perhaps, but then it gets brutally mogged by AMD

I have an X13 Gen2 and I am fucking SICK of Windows 11 and MS general bullshit. I have never owned any Apply products but I am really tempted to buy a Macbook Air. Maybe I would just be satisfied with the same laptop with a different OS?

What Linux distribution should I install? I have Debian w/ LXQT on my desktop and I'm happy with it there. All my important files are in a single veracrypt container so it's easy to move between systems/installs.

>>107990800
>What Linux distribution should I install? I have Debian w/ LXQT on my desktop and I'm happy with it there.
Why change then? Debian w/LXQT would be great on your X13G2. If you want to get adventurous, try a different DE. KDE or Gnome would run fine, assuming you're not stuck with 8gb RAM (both would run, but it'd be tight). Or try a really light, minimal keyboard-centric tiling WM. Go with testing or Sid repos if you want newer packages. Only do Arch if you hate yourself and/or want to relearn a bunch of shit.

Possible first time user here. Should I pull the trigger on a refurbished T490 with i5 8365U, 500gb ssd and 16gb RAM? 339 Eurobucks in "good" condition (tech flawless, outside some slight traces of being pre-owned)

I don't do much computer work, just browsing, watching, writing - usual stuff and no gaming.

>>107993494
>T490
no
>339 Eurobucks
NOOOOO
look for an amd t14 gen 1 or 2. Shouldn't be hard to find an intel one at that price but the amd ones are better/more efficient (and usually slightly more expensive)

>>107993494
LMAO, no it's a terrible deal.
Most "refurbished" stuff is just a brown person in a grimy cellar turning it on once and maybe giving it an additional wipedown.
At this price point you should be looking for a T14 G2/G3.
Read the reviews on the seller and ask him about the battery health.

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>>107993872

>>107991003
True. I'll make the swap to Debian a project for this weekend.

i have an x230 sitting on a shelf gathering dust, do people still want these? can i just throw it on ebay and get like $100?

also, why don't new laptops come with big batteries? why do all the 12" and 14" have these piddly 50Wh batteries? Isn't battery life a big selling point for laptops? Why not stick 90Wh's in them again? Do any manufacturers stick big batteries in their 12-14" laptops?

>>107994457
I'm using one right now, but don't let anon hear that or he might raise the price on his.
>batteries
Notebook selling points are so very weird and retarded. For some reason normalfags don't give a toss about it, it seems. Maybe it has to do with weight. They have such retarded requirements for notebooks and get caught up on bullshit all the time.

https://www.bestbuy.com/product/nimo-15-6-light-gaming-laptop-8-cores-amd-ryzen-7-pro-6850u-32gb-lpddr5-ram-1tb-ssd-black/JJGHQYTGXQ
is this a decent brand? never heard of them before. I'm looking for an aluminum non-Mac laptop with good APU.
I'm expecting Panther Lake to be too expensive on release even though it's supposed to be competitive. or if there's something else interesting on the horizon I should look out for.

>>107994953
>>>/csg/
This thread of stinkpads and other business class memorabilia.

>>107993943
>>107993872
Für the same price range I could get a T480 and an Intel T14 G2 (16gb RAM, 265 SSD) Which one would be a better choice?

>>107968769
I hate rubberized coatings, and enjoy aluminum constructed laptops like the Elitebook/Probook series.

However, it seems that when you hand giganigger gorilla users an aluminum chassis in enterprise they just skateboard with it and bend all corners/scrape all the paint off.

I've got a $150 budget, looking for an 8th gen or better cpu with a decent screen, will mostly be using it for car diagnostic stuff and occasional light gaming in bed

Should I just get a T480 and sand it if it gets sticky on me?

>>107995881
T14G2, make sure the battery is ok.

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>>107968769
Hi all, I currently have a W530 that used to daily drive windows 7, got a bit bored of that and I want to give it the linux treatment, what distro would you recommend for it? it's a pretty old machine and I'm not sure if any fancy distro would work. also any tips on making it look nicer would be appreciated, i really struggle making linux look nice which is really annoying. Thanks so much!

Any recommendations for a good rugged snap-on case for a T14G1? A friend of mine dropped his fagbook yesterday and since I take my T14 to work and back and generally carry it around I guess some protection wouldn't be the worst idea.

>>108001048
Infocase FM-SNP-T14S2N1G1

Do I buy a maxed out Z13 Gen 1 for 1k?
I hate the IO but the rest seems so nice

uhm uhm if i buy a 30 bucks battery will it explode

>>108000165
Start with Mint and some lightweight environment like... xfce, I think?

>>108001513
A bit pricey for a G1, maybe 800?
You should also consider X13G4.

>>107968769
What's the most you'd pay for a P15 Gen1 or 2?
Are the batteries still good?
Also what spec should I go for? I plan to replace my T540p.

>>108000165
>I'm not sure if any fancy distro would work
Any fancy distro will work.
>making it look nice
Just get a desktop environment you like the look of and stick to it (maybe change themes if you really want to). Anon already mentioned xfce but you can also try MATE and cinnamon. All look sort of like windows, one version of the other. Closest to win 7 would be cinnamon.

>>108001673
I've bought eight over the years and none of them has exploded. Three of them died within two years (one of them swelling) and the rest are more or less fine.

>>108002072
Thank you for sharing your experience! This is very reassuring.

>>108001726
im not a linux beginner haha, i used to daily drive arch and cachyos. just not too knowledgeable on all the distros
>>108001916
didn't know that thanks! ended up using arch with KDE but i feel like im missing out on the proper arch experience, too bad hyprland feels too cluttered on my tiny screen

>>108002417
Well I'll be! Ha-ha!

>>108002508
i'm currently thinking that maybe debian might be the best bet for the thinkpad. but I'm not too sure...

would you happen to know anywhere where i can go to learn some basic ricing tips, or even a beginners guide?

I found Lenovo t14 gen 4 16gb/512 for 340euros but it has bios code, is that a good deal?

>>108002647
>Lenovo t14 gen 4
i5 btw

>>108002525
Nah, not me, I don't rice.

>>108003535
thats annoying, i'll have to figure it out myself then...

>>108002664
That's not so bad, intel is just kinda worse--
>13th gen
Oh. Yeah, definitely avoid it.

>>108002417
>hyprland feels too cluttered on my tiny screen
You mean your 15.6'' screen? You must be doing something wrong cause I use hyprland on my x230 with its 12.5'' screen and it's great. In fact I think tiling window managers are even more useful for smaller screens because of how they optimize screen size.
Were you trying to do everything on a single workspace? That does work better on a larger screen but you can just use more workspaces and jump back and fourth, granted that's not a hyprland or twm exclusive thing but still, perfectly usable on smaller screens and I'd say they're better for that than floating window managers.

>>107976284
WE FOUND HIM BOYS
COME OUT
WITH YOUR HANDS
UP

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>>107987735
Wait 'til you read up about AMD, Gramps...

I am looking for an affordable 200$ school computer that can ideally last me through the lecture - ideally, the best battery life I can get for that price. My tasks will be writing documents, web browsing, and programming. An anon recommended me a T480 in another thread. Right now, my school computer is an E7440, however, the battery is fucked and won't hold a charge, and it doesn't make sense to buy a new battery for a 12 year old machine. I don't want to use a chink battery, so I am looking for a laptop where new batteries are easily attainable. I am aware that the new Thinkpads are far more locked down compared to what they used to be. How do newer Dell Latitudes compare in that respect? Did Dell Latitudes become cucked in the same way? What are the pros of newer Dell Latitudes compared to their Thinkpad counterparts? What would a T480 Dell Latitude equivalent look like?

>>108005412
i just had 2 windows open, still felt cluttered, ended up moving to bwm and it feels sooo much nicer, i can easily work with like 7 windows opened on one workspace

>>108008138
Get a T14 any gen if you want a Lenovo. Unless you have a line on a real cheap T480, T14 is what you seek. Most of the T14's I see are the same price or slightly cheaper than the T480's I see out there and they are newer. Autists are putting some kind of e waste collectors premium on T480's, but they are good laptops.

There are a lot of 7420 and 5420 Latitudes surplus out there now. They are good too. No clit mouse but they are solid.

All the above mentioned are easy to change out the battery. Literally 6 or 8 small screws, and popping the baseplate off, unhooking and unscrewing the old battery, and screwing the new battery in. New batteries can be had for $20-$30. They may be generic brand but so far all the ones I've tried have been perfect.

which T14 has better battery life than my T470?

>>108008138
Something from the X series, like an X280.

>>108010316
T14 gen 6 with V series CPU

E14 gen 3 worth it for £150? Seems to be around £200+ everywhere else I check but I only had a quick search

>>108011103
Meh. Every E model I've used has been disappointing in some way or other.

>>108008493
I still don't get it. Where you using gigantic borders for each tile? How can one feel cluttered and not the other?

>>107968769
does X390 have the shitty nipple?

>>108014224
You have to leave.

>>108014224
it's Elantech

>>108015282
thats the bad one?

>>108015351
Is it? I can't tell. Trackpad sucks though.

>>108015384
yeah i think it is, my x13 has one and it's either dogshit or broken

>>108015480
Can't you just replace the it? It's like 5 cents.

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36 thinkpads all listed at the uni surplus store. should I get them? I was aiming for the Elitebook 860 G10 for $150 they had but now... I don't know.... maybe it's time for a thinkpad

>>108010730
Wouldn't recommend.

I was looking forward to a coreboot/libreboot port to the X280, but it has soldered RAM. Rather not take any chances; I'll upgrade to a T480 instead.

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you bastards tricked me into buying a 420 nearly a decade ago.
i spent an extra $200 on basic upgrades and accessories before i ever powered it on and realized its shitty screen, and shit resolution of 1600x900.
then the mobo went bad. I got a replacement to swap, then it went bad for another reason, i had that returned and i never put the replacement board in.
i was going through my shit and found this pos.

what do?
its got an ssd, max ram, highest spec i7 i could find.

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fuck you starrrrforrrrceeeeeee
you fucking cunnnnnnnnnt
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>108017616
>wangblows
found the issue

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>>108017671
even worse
its vista
i fuckin love vista
i hate how fragile it is

>>108011103
Yes. Go for it.
>>108013266
I do industrial automation and use one e14 Gen 2 when I have to go to industrial environments. It's been the best companion I've had. It's light, tough and cheap enough for the task.

>>108017280
Doesn't give any info on models or specs for most of these. For those that do have the serial, you can go look them up on Lenovo's site.

https://pcsupport.lenovo.com/us/en/products/laptops-and-netbooks/thinkpad-l-series-laptops/thinkpad-l15-type-20u3-20u4/20u3/20u30022us/pf2ptc1x?linkTrack=Homepage%3ABody_Search%20Products&searchType=6&keyWordSearch=Pf-2ptc1x

>>108018367
>Doesn't give any info on models or specs for most of these. For those that do have the serial, you can go look them up on Lenovo's site.
true, but also I can go in person and ask to see them. they'll put them out in front of me and let me boot them up if i want. I'm 99% sure it's a fleet of L15 thinkpads

>>108018371
That seems likely. Those will have upgradable RAM, fwiw. The one I sent the link for is a FHD IPS screen. Don't get boned and get one with the shitty TN panel. If there are any touchscreen models they'll have better brightness.

https://psref.lenovo.com/syspool/Sys/PDF/ThinkPad/ThinkPad_L15_Gen_1_Intel/ThinkPad_L15_Gen_1_Intel_Spec.pdf

>>108018371
Something else about the L's to know - chassis flex can cause the ram chips to slightly disconnect, especially when moving them/grabbing by the corner. Put some little rubber pads at the top corners under the ram chips and reseat them. Make sure they latch down but they should be TIGHT. It's a fairly well known issue/fix.

Just saying - if you get one that acts fucky you might be able to jew them down on the price and fix it for basically free. Or get a 2nd or 3rd unit for yourself and have good spare parts or sell it on yourself for more than you paid for it.

>>108014224
>>108015351
It doesn't take the old caps and drifts a little more often but other than that it's as comfy as the old Synaptics ones and much better than old ALPS. You'll probably have to tinker with the settings if you're switching from another model.

>>108017086
not just the little red cap of the nip i meant the actual hardware
>>108019233
i guess mine is broken then because it moves like dogshit, maybe i should replace the whole keyboard as it is in the wrong layout for me too

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>>107978790
You need these types of clips to attach to the chip because its a surface mounted chip unlike the regular x200 with hinges so a regular soic clip wont have a way to "grab" the feet of the chip. Then everything else is just the same.

T14G1Ryzen 5
8gb soldered, another 8gb in the slot
Will replacing it with 16gb for a total of 24 lead to to any headaches because it's 8 & 16 instead of 8 & 8?

Has anyone ever tried 8 & 32?

>>108020883
not since like 2002

>>108020883
I have 8 + 32 in mine with no problems

>>108020883
All it means is the first 16gb will run in dual channel while the remainder runs in single channel.

>>108022516
>>108022473
Thanks guys. So I guess I'm gonna spend some (too much) money on RAM.

All your fault. YOU made me get a Thinkpad. Only have it for a few days now and I'm already more in love than I've been with any other piece of tech in my life. I always thought it was a meme. Guess I was wrong.

>>108022860
I also got fucked by 8gb soldered on my gen 2. Keep in mind that iris xe is **supposed** to only benefit from the dual channel memory so the first 16gb. I have a spare 16gb ddr4 sodimm I was going to put in my other (gayming) laptop while replacing the fans because a bearing is shot. But I'll try it with 8gb + 16gb and see how it does today. I'm running xubuntu and normal steam+proton for testing the igpu

>>108023264
Oh I didn't see you're using ryzen, my bad. Still will test it out

What's the opinion on Dell Plus 16?

>>108023649
>1 year warranty
consumerslop
The only Dells worth something are the Latitude, Precision, Pro Max, and Pro Premium

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Bros, recomend me a laptop with trackpoint, slim and light, with good battery life. I'll have to begin taking weekly overnight bus rides to another city and I don't want to die of boredom

>>108023849
The most recent precisions are infinitely cheaper too.

>>108023269
Thanks man, appreciate it.

I saw the T14 Gen5 AMDs are on clearance on the lenovo website. Could get a Ryzen 7 and 32GB RAM for like 800 swiss cheesebux. This is mostly for use as a workstation at the desk and gaming when I am supposed to working. Think it's a good purchase? The RAM from them direct is cheaper than elsewhere. This will replace a T15 G1 with an MX330.

Other option would be a Macbook or even a mac mini m4 but I intend to be using Linux and playing some pre-2022 games.

>>108023882
>slim and light
T480s, slim and light like current models, lasts ~8h of light use
>light with good battery life
X270 with maxed out batteries, thick but not heavy, ~14h of light use

Or if you're rich, get a Lunar Lake X1 Carbon which meets all three

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What do you think of the Yoga variants?

On my x270 (Mint) at least one of my CPU cores will go down to 400 MHz, on battery or plugged. The battery is OEM and I have tried various tricks and scripts to turn off BD-PROCHOT, BIOS is up to date.
Anybody has an idea ?

>>108028961
If you wanna use Linux then why is a Mac even in question? Get that T14 and be happy

>P15s Gen2
>I7-1165G7, 32GB ram, 1TB sdd
>450€
Is this a good deal bros? It's in decently good condition

>>108029843
Private dealer or professional? If the latter, refurbished and with warranty?
Which Eurocountry?

>>108029868
Actual store, 1 month warranty. No idea if it's been refurbished.
Spain

>>108029886
1 month? That's no warranty, that's the required EU money back timespan.

Ask if it's been refurbished and about the battery life. Doesn't sound like a bad deal since 32gb/1tb but it's still some money so....

Usually you should be able to return it no questions asked within 30 days so in general you could pull the trigger. Depends on how safe you wanna play it.
>just order and test everything and then decide if you keep it
>ask the questions first, then order and possibly see someone else buy it before you can.
Make sure to pay via PayPal for buyer's protection (NOT friends & family)

>>108029904
I forgot: If you get it install Lenovo Vantage for updates and battery tests

>>108029904
>>108029919
Awesome thanks!!

>>108029920
No problem hombre. Make sure to post pics if you get it. Good luck so you don't buy a lemon

What's exactly wrong with the P52S? It's either faded or otherwise dismissed in most Thinkpad discussions. I just got one and it works a treat. What am I missing?

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Just like this guy >>108028961 is considering, I bought a t14 gen 5 with the intel 125u and 64gb ram for under 900 euros. it replaces my good old x220. and you know what, this laptop is really great. good screen, using linux and just browsing the web the fan is at 0 rpm, and finally the battery and ram is completely replaceable again.

what I don't like is the keyboard, it feels "hard" to type on, like you're tapping against a wall. also the wifi card is soldered, and the power connector (usb-c) is soldered.

about the power connector, I don't know how I feel about it, because I just replaced the power connector of my x220 a few weeks ago, because the original one didn't work anymore. so I ordered a new one on amazon, and replaced it, and everything was working, until a few days ago, when my laptop stopped charging and the charging port smelled burnt. opened the laptop and when I inserted the power cable, there was a flash at the power connector. so I was able to replace it, nice, but I don't really trust these things anymore... at least I can still charge it via a docking station, because it uses a port at the bottom.

anyway, I don't want to go back to an old thinkpad. yes, the keyboard is worse, but everything else is just so much better.

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Is the Z13 any good thinkbros?

>>108031237
Can you tolerate the single free USB port and butchered keyboard layout?

>>108031528
why would you ever need more.
and layout is the same as its been for 15 years.

>>108031538
>up and down arrows squeezed thin
>no PgUp and PgDn
>no natural place to map a Menu key

>>108031974
again, they've been thin for 15 years.

Which was the last ThinkPad available with CD/DVD drive?

>>108032860
P71 probably

ok I think the internal battery on my t480 finally crapped out, what now?

>>108033860
buy a new one on ebay

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>>108031998
Wrong, X400 and X410 latitudes had normal arrow keys and released in 2019. Shame the screen is 300cd :(

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>CXMT ram found on new Thinkpad
I guess RAM crisis is a nothingburger after all.

>>108035363
inb4 cxmt banned from US market

found a mint t14 gen1 with a 4750u/16gb/512gb config for $350 usdingdongs, overpriced?

>>108037731
professional dealer or private seller? Has it been refurbished or what? How's the battery?
350 can be an okay-ish price for those stats if someone checked that thing and possibly replaced parts. But it's not a good price in general.
But on the other hand: I don't really mind 50 bucks or or less if I get one that gives me a good gut feeling.

>>108037764
dealer, marked "refurbished" but probably more accurate to just say inspected
battery only stated to be in working condition, but i could ask what percent it's at; let me do so

i'm ultimately of the same thinking, this is essentially 300 bucks for what appears to be a decent one

>>108037731
>Ryzen 7 - best CPU for Gen 1
>16gb RAM - okay in general but only "good" when those 16 are soldered in. If it's 8+8 then it's meh
>512gb SSD - good

Since it has the 4750u and is "mint" I consider 350 not too high. But if I were you I'd check the following things:
1) RAM: Are we talking about 16gb soldered so you still got a free slot or is it 8gb soldered and the slot already filled with 8g? The former is obviously better
2) What kind of seller are we talking about? Keep in mind that professionals usually demand a higher price but if it's a pro with a good reputation I'd rather buy from him than from some private dude

>>108037802
Inspected is much better than nothing. No dealer wants a bad reputation or a very visible 1-star rating because today there's just too many alternatives. So he checks the stuff and you get something that at least won't shit the bed 14 days later.

>this is essentially 300 bucks for what appears to be a decent one
Exactly. If it was a private seller 350 would be too much but here you get an inspected Gen 1 and the dealer wants to make some money too, which is absolutely okay by me.

If you ask him about the battery you might as well ask him what anon here said: >>108038378
>Are we talking about 16gb soldered so you still got a free slot or is it 8gb soldered and the slot already filled with 8g
I mean if push came to shove you could just put a 32GB RAM unit into the slot and call it a day...

>>108033860
>what now?
Buy a new one and since you'll already open it up you might as well combine your battery shopping with RAM shopping and a good internal cleaning.
Make sure to put on some good music, put the computer on a towel (no more hunting for lost screws on the floor) and prepare a refreshing beverage.
And POST PICTURES of the job. Not just for the sake of this General but for other Anons who might need to do it too

>cmos battery dead
>it's ok, I wanted to upgrade some parts and do some cleaning anyway!
>go to open thinkpad up
>screws stripped
>spend over a week trying to get them off. injured myself. severe cosmetic damage everywhere. now unresellable
>somehow stab 1 ram stick in the process
>1 keyboard key hinge snaps
>superglue exploded in my hands. had to visit ER
>eventually replace LCD to new one
>doesn't work
>put old LCD back in
>doesn't work
good morning

>>108039253
A stripped screw has come close to ruining my life. Were you trying to remove the superglue with a lighter or something? You're supposed to use acetone...

>>108039296
>>108039253
Here's the basic rules Anons:
1) NEVER use power tools to remove the tiny little screws of electronic devices
2) Get a high quality set of smol form factor screwdrivers or bits. Be aware that asian companies don't always use PH/PZ heads but may use JIS - looks the same, is something different
3) Always make sure to fit the right screwdriver. Don't just grab one that seemingly fits.
4) No superglue. Thanks to a physical phenomenon called capillary effect the glue will get between the screw and the rest and will make your problems even worse.

Here's some solutions:
1) put a piece of rubber band between screw and screwdriver
2) Put maximum linear pressure onto the screwdriver and screw but twist as gentle as possible
3) Use a minimal larger screwdriver or a flathead and slightly(!!!) hammer it into the stripped head.
4) Make capillary effect your bitch by applying a tiny(!!!!!!!!) droplet of penetrating oil and let it sit for a day. Then repeat.
5) If everything else fails get a 1.5 0r 2.0mm drill and drill out the head. Use a very good tiny wrech to grab the rest of the screw after you've removed all other screws and the floor plate.

>>108039253
Fucking Zoomers everybody. Even too dumb to remove the tiniest screws from a fucking notebook without injuring themselves and destroying their equipment.
How did you survive puberty? How do you cook without setting yourself on fire?

>>108039253
I accidentally got the screws swapped and drilled through the palmrest on my T440p once, beat myself up about it for a week but Christ almighty you sound like a looney toons character. You good anon?

>>108039790
I always use a piece of simple masking tape sticky side up with a scribble of the thing I'm repairing (e.g. the underside of a laptop). So I put the screws in the right positions on the tape. I think this saved my ass several times.
Oh and I always remove screws with a cotton towel underneath. That way screws and other microscopic parts don't roll away and get lost

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>>108039296
"exploded" might have been the wrong word, my bad. It's more like the tube was under pressure and the cap was tight, so when I opened it, it squirted and burst everywhere

>>108039436
>NEVER use power tools to remove the tiny little screws of electronic devices
uh oh
>no superglue
uh oh
Learned the hard way, I guess
>rubber band
That's usually my go-to, but it really didn't work this time. they were really fucked. no idea what the hell the last owner did to them. Unfortunately the power tool with a metal precision drill was the only thing that worked in the end. The problem was that the screws were on the bottom shell (x230) and they're all really deep set.
Your tips are really helpful though, you were really detailed... damn, anon, many thanks

>>108039790
I'm all good, it was rage-inducing and I feel a little self-conscious for fucking up, but it could be worse. And in hindsight it's pretty fucking funny to me. "looney tunes character" sounds about right

>>108039465
damn, you ok? I'd say it's the opposite, I'm old and my brain has turned into some fried dumb outdated CPU (but to be fair I was already fucked with tard genes anyway)

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Hi, I bought a 2004 R50e IBM thinkpad with no charger so I'm looking to get one for cheap. Says it needs 72W so I'm not sure if these cheap chinese ones any good (do they even have the adapter I need?)
https://a.aliexpress.com/_mtMYlbL
thank you for your help

>>107988987
To witness /tpg/ chuddies on the suicide watch

>>108017616
Nice bedsheet.

>>108040177
>Your tips are really helpful though, you were really detailed... damn, anon, many thanks
That's because I'm a 41yo /k/, /o/ and /diy/ crossposting motherfucker. Diesel mechanic by trade, /g/tard by choice. I've seen it all, I've made all the mistakes, but I refuse to not learn. Put a new SSD into a T440 on a nasty, greasy work bench in a garage, installed Lubuntu on a road trip while others changed a tire. Hope you can fix your shit mayne.Never give up.

>>108038378
>>108038411
'preciate it gents, went ahead and pulled on it even though i'm waiting on response regarding whether it's 16gb or 8gb soldered; the replaceability of the free slot is safe enough imo
it's inspected and confirmed fully functional with a 12mo warranty thru the seller, ebay but 13000+ sales/99.4% positive, think this was a safe pull

>>108042618
Haha I know that feel. Still waiting for an answer but already pulling the trigger because you can't wait. Thanks for replying. Post pics when you got it.

>>108042668
i didnt want it to get sniped since it's on ebay, even as-is i'll get good mileage out of it and i can worry about storage and memory when it's needed
will follow thru when it comes

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>>108017280
Update: I went in person in advanced to see what's going to be sold. It's TWENTY SEVEN thinkpad t14s gen 1, one p15 gen 2, and one p15s gen 2. There's also an L13 Yoga that slipped through with an i7, along with like 10 E15 gen 1 and L15 gen 2
Bidding starts at $50 at 8:00 am in the morning, the hard drive has been removed, the charger is not included, and there is no windows liscence along with it.
I only need one (for school work) but I know for a fact that scalpers show up every day to get what they can.

I have like 1 week to prepare a strategy to get one. I want one so bad but I know scalpers are going to fight for it becaust they fought for the server and bid it up from $50 to $210.

>>108042761
100% understand ya. Would've done exactly the same.

>>108028977
>Or if you're rich, get a Lunar Lake X1 Carbon which meets all three
I want nothing less, but I am also not filthy rich. How many years until these flood the second-hand market?

>>108042839
Neat, I was hoping you'd post an update.

Are they doing them one at a time as a live auction or are they doing the silent auction thing or what?

Which one(s) are you trying to go for?

The windows license thing is nbd (go visit /fwt/ and read the sticky re: massgrave). Or use Linux.

Charger thing is nbd, they're all going to use usb-c and surely you have one already. You don't need an """official""" charger.

The SSD thing kinda sucks. Prices on those are elevated these days. Assuming you don't have a spare lying around, budget another $$ for that.

Factor all this into your total cost of ownership.

Can anyone recommend a ThinkPad that’s good for Unity game development?

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>>107968769
my business partner we split i made him buy ROG zephyr (2) for the company I was pretty happy once I installed steam he took both laptops in our final agreement. I am happy in my new project but I needed a laptop for my new POS my phone is ok I guess but I brought the old X1 to life I still need a battery I found on Ali

Run in to a Fedora workstation on linux magazine and i saw Cosmic on youtube wanted to try.

couldn't make it run on my wife's both left behind X1 gen 8 and X1 gen 9 mine is gen 7
i am very satisfied with Cosmic.

I have a W541. Is there a way to replace the keyboard with something similar to the older X series keyboards?

>>108045871
>ketamine: the post

Is getting from Amazon Renewed a mistake? I have a gift voucher

>>108047158
Well in Germany you get 1 year warranty on Amazon Renewed stuff so this is a no-brainer. Check your local warranty, if it's also good, why not?!

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what's the best 12.5 / 13inch thinkpad to get rn.

need it to not overheat, i dont ever (if possible) want to see a crash because of overheating

ThinkPad X280 looks good price range, 200$, but does it overheat a bunch?

>>107968769
any x60 bros in here? just ordered one and wondering what im getting into

>>108037731
>>108042618
Screen? Battery health?
350$ for a gen1 with R7 isn't great desu.

Have any Anons itt used eGPUs with their chinkpads?

How was the Power delivery, was it truly a 1 cable solution?

>>108047366
Shit doesn't usually overheat and crash for no reason.
Were you gaming/pushing your laptop or did the dust simply clog your cooling system and you didn't bother to clean it?
Just get the newest X13 with an IPS panel or the x280 in a decent configuration, maybe you can sell it at scalper prices after they roll out Libreboot for it.

>>108047385
Hope you got a 64-bit variant.

>>108048578
Oh shut the fuck up man. I'm all against overpaying but you penny pinchers are as bad as the "I know what I got" boomers.
350 is an okay price for a professional seller, a refurbished or at least checked ThinkPad and the overall stats.
Yeah, go on Marketplace or eBay and you might get the same one for 300 or 320. Enjoy dealing with private sellers and their bullshit then if you think that's worth 30 or 50 bucks. I sure don't.

Bamp!

>>108050061
Took me under a minute to find.
T14s, 240 Yurobucks.
Guy's account is over a decade old.
IPS, battery 's about 80%.

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>>108051112

>>108051124
Link?

>>108045492
it's going to be 27 sequential english auctions. I'm planning on colluding with the other bidders and letting them know I only want 3 and then i'll go home and stop bidding. two for me and one for a friend.

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>>107968769
>>107978790
Anybody have experience with the wacom pen not working on the x201 under linux?
I verified that it was working under windows, so it doesn't seem borked on the hardware level.
Im running XFCE+Artix for reference.

>>108047385
Having your balls cooked unless you flash the BIOS and add another wifi card in. Also, >>108049184

Word to the wise, if you decide to Libreboot it, make sure you have an SPI programmer on hand (CH341A is fine, pomono clips are retarded). It's fairly straightforward to flash it (even with their retarded documentation), but there's always the risk of bricking it. Furthermore, you may change your mind and want to go back to the stock BIOS. Flash the BIOS to the latest version to update the EC too.

>>108053138
What's the actual value of a t14s gen 1 with no ssd and no OS? I'm curious at what point I would profit from just bidding on and attempting to resell them myself.

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>company i work out starts trashing old tech
>keep 3 thinkpad t460s
>take them home
>install linux
>every one of them shuts itself off if you close it
uhhhhhhhh bros? i thought these things were supposed to be workhorses?

>>108056193
Give them back, Jamal.

>>108056325
mald more

>>107981146
i actually found some success getting one of those kingsener batteries from aliexpress. I got a 72Wh one for my T480 a few months ago, and it hasn't died on me yet and seems to be actually rated for 72Wh (also quite fat).

>>107981146
I can attest to >>108056390. I bought one for my X230 back in 2023, and it's still working just fine. Just make sure to flash the EC so that it actually charges, and make sure to read the instructions it comes with. I vaguely remember having to leave it charging for a long time for the EC to calibrate or something like that. Otherwise, I think it can mess with the longevity of the battery.

Hope you aren't American lol, or else you'll have to pay out the ass for them. God bless Israel.

/dev/nvme0n1p2 2.0G 111M 1.7G 7% /boot
/dev/nvme0n1p1 1.1G 6.2M 1.1G 1% /boot/efi

What is taking so much space it's just a bootloader right?

>>108058627
your 300 kernel images

>>108058661
This is a pretty new install. Two weeks old.

Any recommended docks to use with the t480s?
Also how stable is coreboot on the t480s? I have corebooted an x220 in the past but it suffered from that decade old bug where it would randomly freeze and require a full power cycle.

>>107969578
Any anons here with a T1g Gen 8?
Thinking of buying one to be my laptop for the next 8 years.
If you've got one can you check what the IOMMU groups look like, I'm planning to passthrough the dGPU to a Windows VM.

>>108058723
111M isn't much for two kernels and their initramfs images. On my machine the two latest kernel and initramfs pairs take 150M.

>>108059228
>docks
The proprietary 40AJ dock is dirt cheap and works well for me. Don't need anything pricier unless you plan to use post-2021 'pads (which lose the docking port) or Thunderbolt devices (the dock occupies the port and doesn't have its own).

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hey /tpg/ I saw a thinkpad E570 with 16 GB ddr4 ram and 256 gb SSD for $100

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ThinkPad_E_series
https://www.lenovo.com/us/en/p/laptops/thinkpad/thinkpade/thinkpad-e570/22tp2tee570

wanted to get your opinion on if this is something to grab (I'm pretty new to laptops, especially thinkpads)

I want something that can do coding, web browsing, light gaming, and light home labbing like hosting a static website

I have two old T500 thinkpads in pretty bad shape and I know nothing about hardware so I'm thinking about toying around with them a bit to learn
I'm thinking about upgrading them to 8gb ram, buying an ssd and maybe a battery for one them
I'll install a lightweight distro, probably lubuntu, on one and win 10 on the other
should I change anything else? any general tips n tricks?

So, what happened to the anon who repaired notebooks? He totally ignored my question about rebuilding thinkpad batteries.