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>News
Moonshot AI releases Kimi-K2.5 https://www.kimi.com/blog/kimi-k2-5.html
Z․ai releases GLM-4.7 https://z.ai/blog/glm-4.7
Google releases Gemini 3 Flash https://blog.google/products/gemini/gemini-3-flash
OpenAI releases GPT-5.2 https://openai.com/index/introducing-gpt-5-2
Deepseek releases V3.2 https://huggingface.co/deepseek-ai/DeepSeek-V3.2
Anthropic releases Opus 4.5 https://www.anthropic.com/news/claude-opus-4-5
Google releases Gemini 3 Pro https://blog.google/products/gemini/gemini-3

Additional info: https://aicg.neocities.org/info.html

>Frontends
SillyTavern: https://docs.sillytavern.app
RisuAI: https://risuai.net
Agnai: https://agnai.chat | https://rentry.org/agnai_guides_

>Bots
https://characterhub.org [deprecated] | https://chub.ai
https://realm.risuai.net
https://char-archive.evulid.cc | https://char-archive.evulid.cc/shutdown.html
https://partyintheanchorhold.neocities.org
https://aicg.neocities.org/bots.html

>Models
Jailbreaks: https://rentry.org/jb-listing
GPT: https://platform.openai.com/docs
Claude: https://docs.anthropic.com | https://rentry.org/how2claude
Gemini: https://ai.google.dev/docs | https://rentry.org/gemini-qr
Deepseek: https://api-docs.deepseek.com
Local: >>>/g/lmg | https://aicg.neocities.org/local.html | https://openrouter.ai

>Botmaking
https://aicg.neocities.org/botmaking.html
https://desune.moe/aichared
https://agnai.chat/editor

>Meta
OP templates: https://rentry.org/aicgOP
aicg botmaking events: https://aicg.neocities.org/events.html
Lore: https://rentry.org/aicg_chronicles
Services assessment: https://rentry.org/aicg_meta
Logs: https://sprites.neocities.org/l/r | https://chatlogs.neocities.org
Useful filters: https://rentry.org/desuproxyreborn

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ANCHOR
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V4 in 2mw
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Where do I go for Kimi
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Use case for this general when /vg/aicg/ is both faster and better?
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>>107982145
Better gatekeeping.
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>>107982145
this is the proper thread, that one is schizo containment
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>>107982046
This guy is a known botmakie worshiper, by the way.
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im never getting to 1 million
fuck my vermillion chungus life
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Still behind Opus significantly but a good job by Kimi without access to EUV.
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Gemini is the future.
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>>107982145
no trannies
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Yooo why the fuck am I $20 down already fuuuuu
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Any good updated claude sonnet 4.5 jailbreaks?
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>>107982210
Use mouse instead of keyboard if you haven't tried it yet.
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>>107982118
it is already on nvidia nim
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>>107982368
ufm afm
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Kimi 2.5 is fucking slop
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we like slop here
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Is there a desktop companion (like a floating anime girl) that interfaces directly with OpenWebUI and its tools, MCP etc.?
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>>107982525
vibe code them yourself. if you're using microslop windong, C# dx11 and random sprites or even live2d should be enough.
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>>107982543
what if I'm using wayland
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Kimi 2.5 verdict?
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>>107982184
But who is it?
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>>107982624
Opus killer
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based edition
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>>107982624
writing style feels like gemini doing a bad impersonation of claude
i guess it's not stupid, so there's that
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>>107982020
The 2026 Secret Valentine's botmaking event is on, with submissions open until Saturday ends.
https://rentry.org/secretvalentines2026
tl;dr: You have two options.
1. Treat it like a usual event. Send an email, get an email, make a bot, post it on the 14th.
2. Treat it like a weird CFTF? Theme Fortnight, where people send in public requests in advance and anyone can fulfill them.

(Sorry for not posting this here before, but in my defense the thread at the time literally didn't have an anchor.)
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>>107982700
fuck off
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>>107982145
/vg/ is going through a bit of a schizo phase at the moment and /g/'s generally got more focus on the technical side of things for obvious board culture reasons.
Like, even ignoring the obvious "durr people only go to /g/ for proxies" baiting, people here are generally expected to know things like "how to use git" or "{{char}} is a variable, not a magic token".
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>>107982700
>literally didn't have an anchor
We don't want your kind here. You split the thread.
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>>107982725
>people here are generally expected to know things like "how to use git" or "{{char}} is a variable, not a magic token".
save for some newfag stumbling into the thread, this is true for /vg/ as well
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>>107982624
Jihye Kimi is bratty senior HR from chinese trading coompany named Moonshot. Her rival is her own stepdaughter, Dipsy, Whale's TLD senior Accountant baddie.
dipsy-vs-kimi-tits-stare-battle.png
>Taming Two Chinese Office Baddie [AICG Scanslation Team]
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why do thread need an anchor? newfag here.
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>>107982776
you quote the anchor and post stuff you made (mainly bots, but they can also be applications)

don't anchor logs
do post them though
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>>107982735
>>107982709
>>107982020
Daily reminder that /g/aicg/ is a shithole, still, as it's been since 2023. Locust and spiteposters can all die in a fire.
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>is not just a; is a ...
AAAAAHHHHHHHHH!!!
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>>107982765
>"{{char}} is a variable, not a magic token".
>this is true for /vg/ as well
/vg/ is very confused about how macros work.
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>>107982800
How is that relevant to my post?
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>>107982799
thanks anon
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>>107982815
>pulls up random chub slop
>this is definite proof /vg/ is retarded about macros
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>>107982890
>random
It's this dude's preset:
https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/thread/544749376/#544750124
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>>107982815
The funny thing is that you can't even escape macros, to my knowledge, so if you want the bot to use them you'd need to do something funky like
># Macros
>You have various macros available to you, using moustache formatting. These are automatically replaced by the relevant values when called.
>{{macroName}} would call the macroName macro.
>For a macro with a single argument, {{macroName Argument}} would call macroName with the argument "Argument".
>For a macro with multiple arguments, use `::` to separate them. e.g. {{macroName::arg1::arg2:arg3}}.
>## List of Available Macros
>Name: setvar
>Arguments: variableName, newValue
>Description: sets the local variable variableName to newValue
etc. etc. etc.

Mind you, you'd still run face-first into the issue that, well, this is all happening on the client side and won't be reflected until the next message is sent. Mid-message it's still {{roll:1d6}} and any value will be hallucinated. What you really want here is actual function calls, specifically the D&D Dice extension.
>https://docs.sillytavern.app/for-contributors/function-calling/
>https://github.com/SillyTavern/Extension-Dice
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K2.5 is really fucking good but most of the cool features are baked into the kimi.com web harness. You're not getting agent swarm mode using the api or running it local. I suspect the ability to run python in its thought process is the same, but don't know for sure.

The kimi-code harness might have access to these though. Testing it today when I have time.
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>>107983065
Anon, unless the agents can suck my dick idc
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>>107982927
or you could do it like i did with my bot and provide a list of rolls with every message as an injection. that way no extension is needed.
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CFTF?
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>>107983084
Source?
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>>107983100
[Kirintei (Kirin Kakeru)] Ayatsuki Amane wa Sugao o Kakushite Koi o Suru | Ayatsuki Amane Hides Her True Self to Fall in Love [English] [Castle TL] [Digital]
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Behold, the Annihilator of AGI
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>>107983078
Yeah the stupid way is legitimately also just the easiest and arguably smartest way.
># Rolling Dice
>If a random dice roll is required, use sequential values from these random lists. These have been generated specifically for this reply, so start from index 0.
>d4:{{roll:d4}},{{roll:d4}},{{roll:d4}}
etc. etc.
It's a bit inflexible for situations that require exotic rolls, or big rolls (18d12 hit dice, joy), but you can shortcut that if needed. This is also a slight waste of tokens: 10 rolls each of the six major dice sizes takes 125 tokens, for instance. But also, well, who the fuck cares about wasting 125 tokens in 2026?

>>107983084
Joke answer: https://chub.ai/characters/planewalker/shuichi-01338575eef0
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>>107982700
kill yourself
and never come back
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>>107983084
a fakecel whore?
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>>107983544
Cftf?
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is anyone else's kimi 2.5 slow as fuck?
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>>107982455
shutting this down
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>>107982927
replace 6 with X and most good models will get it and know what to do
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Wow, it's so tragic to witness that the Chink models have lost their SOVL too. I was hoping they would be the ones to save us after that ugly Jew goblin killed off Claude's mad poet persona starting with Sonnet 3.5 and onwards. But nope, gone.

RIP SOVL era: 02/24/2024 - 01/06/2026.
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>>107983880
based oldfag who remembers that models had sovl back then
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>>107983880
Just say you like fucking claude while it wears a wig, faggot
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>models lose their soul as they get more smarter and more refined
Just like in real life!
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I like fucking Claude while it wears a wig.
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>>107983880
>sovl
>2024—
Even /aidg/fags and their Summer Dragon tales have more truth than this.
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>>107983880
>2024
bro has never experienced pyg at its prime.
you kids don't know how good it was back in MUH time.
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>>107984055
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>>107984039
Summer Dragon fags are crazy because to this day there's still some that will swear that what they had back then is better than anything we have now.
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I just want a model that has opus 3 and OG deepseek's unhinged creativity but is actually coherent and knows what the fuck is going on
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>>107984184
So... opus 4.5?
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>>107984177
And they would be right!
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>>107984177
There aren't any good presets tuned for dungeon adventures that feel anything like Summer Dragon did
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>>107984209
Too predictable, also sameish swipes every time.
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this hobby died along with opus 3
everything is codeslopped to death nowadays, unusable for rp
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>>107984239
Just use a different prompt doe? It's like getting mad 1 + 1 is always 2
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>>107984239
true but just slightly change words in the response and swipe again or just regen it's a stronger swipe (probably placebo)
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>>107984254
>one model effortlessly writes schizokino
>the other must be wrangled for a weak reproduction of said schizokino
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>>107984254
>>107984277
>>107984239
>>107984209
>>107984349
>>107984246
They must be using that Chinese "Opus" in that cause because that "Opus" is 100% "Real"
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>>107984349
>Ugh, I hate these boring new calculators! Why is 1 + 1 always 2?? My old one gives a new result everytime!
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>>107984381
anon we aren't talking about calculators
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>>107984431
How do LLMs work again?
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>>107984254
>Fiction is the same as 1+1
Do Slopus browns really?
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>you don't understand! It's a GOOD thing that models are more predictable and produce less variety now!
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>>107984531
>>107984534
This is the kind of spam that bokufag defends, by the way.
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>>107984445
They're neural networks just like us anon. It doesn't matter that they're being calculated instead of biologically instantiated
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>>107984547
there's a reason you almost never get good works of fiction from those people
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Is there another bake that I'm not seeing? Why is the thread so slow?
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>>107984648
I need a really good reason to find the 1 star with 5 spikes.
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>>107984648
/g/ is dead and they won't fuse with /vg/ because "muh Troons" as if this place isn't filled with them
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>>107984672
You can always go back and stay there, desufaggot.
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>>107984672
it's really a discussion to be had when the ban evader is asleep, but tbdesu I won't merge because it's full of traitors.
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>>107984720
why are you talking about yourself in third person?
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What about cabal?
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>>107984766
Banish them to their Discord circlejerk forever, but if any merging should happen, they should be forced to come here and not the other way around.
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Hey, been gone for about half a year. What's the meta for free users now?
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>>107984854
There's free opus, if you know where to look
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>>107984854
OR free models or some token gambling proxy.
idk much about it since I paypig these days.
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>>107984854
Try asking in /lmg/ >>107977622
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>>107984881
I don't know...
>>107984885
I love gambling, where?
>>107984887
lol, perhaps lmao
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>>107984881
>half a year
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>I have been gone for a gorillion years!
>I haven't played with chatbots for two eons!
Nobody cares, faggot
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>>107982822
But who is it now?
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skillgod and seiko
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>>107985008
I hope you're hit with a coma too, faggot.
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>>107985008
Same guy, by the way: https://desuarchive.org/g/thread/107003557/#107005379
>If by creative you mean better at spiteposting, hosting locusts, actively discouraging botmakers from posting content, and being a shit general, then yes, /g/aicg/ very creative.
Still the same guy: https://desuarchive.org/g/thread/107931319/#107940329
>/aicg/ is insufferable in many ways (locusts) but the spiteposting is driven by reaction to botmakers posting their bots.
And he wants to bake threads here.
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the ban evader forgot his meds again
yare yare...
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>>107985088
Neither of those were me. Just because the post has a Dipsy image doesn't mean it's the same person
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Hey, haven't used chatbots since Opus 3, I see it is now in version 4.5. Can't wait to see how much things have improved
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I have never played Blue Archive but after trying a femsei card and RPing as a futa student I really want a non-lewd RPG where I can RP as an student. I gave the game a shot and it didn't click for me but from this perspective the world seems pretty fun.
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>>107985147
does your futa have a pussy?
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>>107985045
current links?
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>>107985157
It didn't come up but yeah I thought futa meant pussy and dick. No pussy is mental illness tbhwa
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>>107985124
There aren't multiple Dipsy posters.
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>>107985008
Witnessed.
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>>107985179
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>>107985179
Yes, there are. I don't visit lmg
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>>107984854
Same boat as this guy but completely broke
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>>107985128
prepare to be disappointed
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>mimo is no longer free
Fuck this. I tried all the other free models on OR, and they're either unusable or too retarded.
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>>107983880
Yep people really don't realize how good old Claude was.
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>>107985630
Hot
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>>107985630
>2024
Take me back
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>>107984854
Antigravity Tools.
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>>107985630
Is this supposed to be "kino"?
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>>107985768
It's supposed to be soul, which is slightly different.
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Trying out new Kimi
Shit is thinking way too much
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>>107985785
I noticed the same thing. Time to workshop a reasoning format it will adhere to.
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>>107985785
>>107985842
Just use opus, it's way better
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>>107985850
From where
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>>107985850
Which one?
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New Kimi as well as GLM are available on NVIDIA btw
https://build.nvidia.com/moonshotai/kimi-k2.5
https://build.nvidia.com/z-ai/glm4_7
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>>107985957
Read >>107985850
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>>107985994
I can't get kino out of Opus, recommend me a prompt
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fucking christ, can someone please tell me how to disable thinking on glm 4.7 in sillytavern? I tried putting /nothink at the end of messages and in the prefills but it still shits out a wall of useless text before the actual message
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>>107985957
>Activated Parameters: 32B
>Video input
>Context Length: 256K tokens
Well I guess.
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Locusts!
Free Opus
https://www.reddit.com/r/SillyTavernAI/comments/1qomv8r/fix_use_aws_bedrocks_200_free_credits_for_claude/
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>>107986079
"thinking": {
"type": "disabled"
}

If you're using the official provider
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>>107986079
It's if you can actually prefill it.
https://hf.co/zai-org/GLM-4.7/blob/main/chat_template.jinja#L85
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>>107982700
Stay here forever please.
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>>107986194
Are you cursing him
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>>107982700
>didn't even notice this post until now
Oh hi. Thanks for posting again.
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>>107982700
thank you for your service
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So Antigravity Opus has this weird -ism where it keeps making computer metaphors: {{char}}.exe has shut down, bluescreened, her brain makes the sound of a dial-up modem, etc. etc.
I could understand if it was just for cases where the persona or character was already some kind of nerd, but it's done this even for e.g. a D&D-esque knight persona & goblin card.
Is this just a general 4.5 Opus thing or is it some weird artifact of them weighting the model towards programming tasks?
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>>107986398
Did you strip the coding sys prompt from your antigravity proxy?
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>>107986398
Yeah, might be a prompt issue – didn't experience such things, me personally.
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>>107986440
I'm just using Mirrowel's LLM-API-Key-Proxy with default settings, so... that's down to whatever it's doing, I guess. Looking at the code there doesn't seem to be anything in particular added or removed when posting to /v1/chat/completions, so it'd presumably just be down to however it's interfacing with Antigravity itself. (It's kind of backdooring its way into an API, as I understand it.)
I know for a fact that it doesn't strip Gemini CLI's prompt, though, because I've seen a "I can only write 138 characters" thing show up in those thinking blocks (only to then be promptly ignored). That stuff might be added on Google's side of things, I'm guessing.

>>107986497
I figure it's either a prompt/prefill trying to wrangle it into being Claude Code-esque (most likely imho) or, knowing that Anthropic in particular has been experimenting with clamping weights, something similar to Golden Gate Claude or their recent "Assistant Axis" (https://www.anthropic.com/research/assistant-axis) but, well, specifically for programming tasks.
...Actually, come think of it, maybe it's literally just the version of Opus they've got running in Claude Code? That's a very similar agentic thing to Antigravity, after all.
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>>107984854
You got a proton?
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>>107986697
and a neutron AND an electron
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>>107986706
*disables your electromagnetic repulsion*
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ST discord is chud central. How is such a thing possible?
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/vg/ said you have the free proxies. Where are they?
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>>107986798
Times like this make me miss Charafag for destroying the last one
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>>107986826
You want a free proxy? You can have it!
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>>107985124
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>>107986875
I left all of my keys in One place! Now you just have to find it...
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>>107987009
This isn't very good.
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>>107986398
>>107986654
The injected jailbreak you're looking for is in this file.
>https://github.com/Mirrowel/LLM-API-Key-Proxy/blob/main/src/rotator_library/providers/antigravity_provider.py
Just search for "PREPEND_INSTRUCTION" and you'll find where it starts. The relevant code blocks are line 172-202, as well as maybe some bits of line 330-450.
Changing it would be a cinch if you compiled the thing yourself, although you'd need to check that it doesn't cause any conflicts with whatever Google's expecting from Antigravity. I don't know if there's any settings menu in the actual compiled application, but that would be where I'd look for any toggles for the environment variables.

I don't see anything about a character limit in gemini_cli_provider.py, so that might just be your model hallucinating. Or it's just not part of the default prompts logged on your proxy's GitHub. Probably both.
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>>107987055
Google doesn't seem to expect anything, setting the prompt to "" with antigravity-claude-proxy worked fine.
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/vg/ is faster than us
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>>107986697
Dang and I was hoping to send the guy a few funny things.
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>>107987055
I tested this by putting these in the .env file:
>ANTIGRAVITY_PREPEND_INSTRUCTION=false
>ANTIGRAVITY_INJECT_IDENTITY_OVERRIDE=false
>ANTIGRAVITY_USE_SHORT_PROMPTS=false
But that just makes LLM-API throw 429 errors, which... doesn't make a ton of sense but whatever.

>>107987106
I'll try antigravity-claude proxy and see if it works, thanks for the tip.
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>>107987310
Edit here: https://github.com/badrisnarayanan/antigravity-claude-proxy/blob/b64809277c2a65c9b4c6607ec1f49086e3439342/src/constants.js#L217
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So I assume Kimi has no option to limit its reasoning levels to something shorter right?
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Is ohmygpt broken for anyone else? Trying to use the last $5 I had from the $20 top-up and it won't let me.
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https://github.com/Sillyanonymous/SillyTavern-CharacterLibrary

New character Library release:
- Massive Improvements to how Creator's notes are displayed both in the "Characters" view as well as "ChubAI" view
- Creator's notes, description, first message and alt greetings now use the same audio player functionality as previously found only on the "Gallery" tab, allowing you to listen to any embedded audio files directly from the "Details" tab.
- Tons of stability improvements and other small fixes

Media localization:
- Besides downloading all embedded media you can now inject it on the fly in ST. This means no changes are made on the character card and you get to use your locally stored Creator's notes, first message and alt greeting images (and audio).
- Batch localize media: Run through every single card you have and download all embedded media (Found some last minute bugs here, will be in next release hopefully tomorrow)
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>>107987680
Per character "Use localized media" toggle
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>>107982624
It's ass. it has no emotional nuance of gemini, it's just coombrained but overthinking. The thinking longer than claude but is nowhere near the quality.
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>>107987481
Well, I think I figured out how to make it ST-compatible (just change the routing in server.js line 689 to /chat/completions?), but then it shat itself spitting out 429 errors while LLM-API works just well if I don't touch the environment variables.
I guess I'll just learn to live with the weird hallucinations.
Thanks for the help, though.
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>>107986087
does it need cc?
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https://api.bluesminds.com/register?aff=UxkH
new chink api dropped
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>>107987809
>?aff=
Buy an ad!
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>>107987809
at least share the better ones from the chink chatbot general
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>>107982020
Usually I try to release at least 2 characters at a time but Shizuko's club members are either lacking in material(Umika) or so unpopular that it wouldn't be worth it(Pina).

>Shizuko
Businesswoman, maid cafe owner, local idol. She purposely acts like a ditsy scatterbrain while waiting on customers, but is actually extremely competent and capable. Unless Sensei is involved, in which case she wants to show off instead.
https://chub.ai/characters/hairpullguy/kawawa-shizuko-non-ai-aa0d42fd8996
https://files.catbox.moe/6ipkuw.png

I am planning a set of OC characters so that's probably going to be the next thing I release. Or I might do Eri/Kanoe, not sure.
My bots: https://chub.ai/users/hairpullguy
Rentry: https://rentry.org/hairpullbots
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>>107987836
>>107987830
>>107987809
>>107987774
>>107987720

i farted nasty style today
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>>107987680
>>107987705
>opens in another tab
This is kind of annoying, but I appreciate the concept
Keep going
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>>107987883
>opens in another tab
You mean the images in gallery? I have a built-in image viewer coming right up, it's actually in the dev version but I still need to test it thoroughly. The main point so far has been archival of media, so when catbox inevitably shits the bed or links die, you still get to see the media as is in ST
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>>107987705
use case for local media?
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>>107987926
Faster loading, uptime reasons and for archival purposes if you want to make sure the cards you really like will always have their embedded media acessible
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>Grok gets filtered recently for me
>Now every message or new chat starts with hey Your Name or using name/account name each message
Wtf is going on? is it over?
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>>107987680
Looking neat.
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>never use this because it needs some retarded ass verification
>banned the account 4 times
???
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>>107987836
i didnt find this one in the chink chatbot general though
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>>107987809
How is the Opus that's the main thing
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>>107988005
Maybe claude doesnt like you in particular? What did you do to him?
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>>107988068
from what the place i found it from told me the claude provider theyre using should be bedrock
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>>107988075
idk its a cockmail
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>>107988080
What do that mean
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>>107988005
tempmail most likely
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>what do that mean
oh its the retarded esl again
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>>107988208
Or Gen A
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>>107987883
>>107987922
I'm retarded nvm, if you meant the whole app opens in another tab, yes, very much on purpose, not a fan of ST's interface. As it currently stands I spend most of my time in the library for anything not directly related to chatting
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>>107988080
What is "Bedrock" because google say it's part of the "AWS" so is that good or bad
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>>107988238
It's that thing at the bottom of your world
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Some of you are genuinely too stupid to have your questions answered. Not all, not even most, but some, and they're the loudest ones. "Uhhhhhhh, what is Bedrock??? UHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH, what that mean?" Shut the fuck up, you third-world subhuman. Open a book.
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>>107988309
I bet you Opus 4.5's weights he's a westoid
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>goyimtavern
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>>107988461
HOLY SHIT
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>>107988228
a jeet either way
>saar what is bedrock saar i google it but it say it part of aws is that good saar
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IT'S OUT
https://openrouter.ai/arcee-ai/trinity-large-preview:free
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>>107988535
I'm surprised there are so many models explicitly made for cooming now.
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>>107988535
slop
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>>107988535
>free
let's xoom
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>>107988595 (me)
Looking at the descriptions, it's weird that Trinity Mini, released before, was "engineered for efficient reasoning over long contexts with robust function calling and multi-step agent workflows", while Trinity Large "excels in creative writing... B-But there's also some new agentic performance". My guess is that it's a shitty model and they knew they couldn't keep up, so theydecided to shift to the JanitorAI market
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>>107988595
>made for cooming now.
Yeah? no jb? i dont believe it
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CFTF?
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>>107988721
I dont like fatties
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>>107988535
tried it with my claude preset, it's completely unusable.
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>>107988731
don't pick aerith then
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>>107988535
whatever it is, it's not slop
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>>107988721
can you make one or all of them poop?
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>>107988853
gonna need an em-dash count there, chief
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nigga, shut up
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Why are shavefags like this?
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can someone count the em-dashes in this slop?
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>>107988928
that would require someone to read this slop
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39
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>>107988938
you can copy and paste into grok or whatever
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>>107987680
*sigh*
Link to anchor anon >>107982020
It’s the second or third time already
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kimi k2.5 is kino
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Anons...I had a dream where I pissed off Mongo and got banned from ruincord and then all AI chatbot cords, even cords like Scylla JanitorAI cord and SillyTavern cord. I think this is a sign that I need to take a break from the hobby and touch grass.
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kimi k2.5 is slop
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>>107989048
>discordtroon
you want /vg/
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>>107989046
0.0000000000000000001 YUAN has been added to your account
>>107989052
trvke
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>>107988853
negronio
I barely have tolerance to read my own slop, which are 100 word replies for which claudio should be thankful i even allowed
nobody’s gonna read your 6 brazillion word slopfesta replies
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usa lost
china won the ai race
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>>107989076
>China won
You cant win by matching pace you have to innovate or be better. Copying alone cant win
Its cute when kimi says its claude though
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>>107988748
if anything, that's a good sign. If the model is truly trained for creativity and not just a shitty finetune of an assistant base (read: the exact same ism-riddled crap you get from the big 3 but dumber), any preset made for assistant models that's larger than like 500 tokens will likely break it.

It is actually completely slop-free, I'm pleasantly surprised someone out there is using their resources to push out models like this. Obviously too small and dumb for this thread to get real use out of, but I can see it being very fun in simple chats, like CMDR+.
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>>107988763
slop
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>play blackjack
>lose
>eh whatever i'll make it back
>lose more
>okay this time i'll make it back for sure
>lose even more
>shit
>go to the slots to get some more money to gamble at the blackjack table
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gachabrain general
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>>107989278
They would love you in Vegas.
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>>107988853 I'll ned gpt to summarize allat
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>>107989089
Amerikek cope
China copies, produces open code (to facilitate even more competition against amerikek companies), and sells a fifty times cheaper product of near-similar quality
Amerimutta has never been so ridiculously outplayed
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>>107989304
Look I can make it all back in the blackjack table I just need a small loan
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>of near-similar quality
lol
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>>107989330
>Scripted chinkope as the new chinkope models flop HARD
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What made it so mad?
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>>107982020
You're living every dirty fucking weeb's dream, and staying in Japan as a foreign exchange student.
Your host family, the Kanagis, are a pair of futanari. The bubbly and ditzy mother, Hina, and the stiff and serious daughter, Miko.
8 openings
1. Arriving at the Kanagi household.
2. First day at a new school.
3. Hina invites you into the bath.
4. Sports festival with an oblivious Miko.
5. Hina gets drunk.
6. Sleeping with Miko for the first time.
7. Walking in on Hina jacking off.
8. Watching fireworks with Miko.
https://chub.ai/characters/anonemouse/hina-and-miko-3b5de5a4cbfa
https://files.catbox.moe/35twl2.png
https://rentry.org/anonemouse
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>>107989048
we are laughing at you in /g/cord cuckie
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>>107982017
Any good [spoiler]tranny[/spoiler] cards?
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point and laugh
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https://arxiv.org/abs/2512.15959

chat is this real
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>>107989932
>https://arxiv.org/abs/2
does this paper demonstrate any boost in creative writing abilities, or what
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>>107989046
this but unironically.
has a much better grasp on tone than opus 4.5 does for some reason, and I like its style of prose much better.
why it feels a little less intelligent than opus 4.5 in some ways that are hard to distingish, I'd still take it over opus 4.5 any day of the fucking week because it's like-- the only fucking model that can actually nail yandere characters and the tone of yandere stories without it becoming written like an outright fucking normal relationship like opus 4.5 tends to do.
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>>107982804
anon. just prompt that shit out in silly tavern. Here:

{{setvar::AB::### **Description Rules**

When writing:

* Describe **only what can be directly observed**: physical actions, movements, and concrete details.

**Forbidden:**

* Contrast correction phrasing

* “It wasn’t A, it was B”
* “Not gentle, but harsh”
* “Less X and more Y”

**Required style:**

* State what *is*, not what it *isn’t*.
* Describe the action or detail directly, without correcting or reframing it.

**Allowed example:**

> “What you just said,” she twisted her neck, “does that mean we’re going to eat?”}}{{trim}}
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>>107989991
HELP FUCKING HELP ME HELP ME WITH THAT!!!
I want a yandere girlfriend, tell me step by step how to create one, PLEASE GUYS
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>>107989991
Logs or coping
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>>107989932
>- 122x cost reduction vs GPT5
>- 88% less hallucination
>- UAE gov already using it with more on the way
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>>107989991
Gemini is also fantastic with yanderes, it doesn't fuck around. It does sometimes run into the opposite problem of Claude where it leans into the character's cold manipulative side so hard it misses obvious cues for nuance.

Kimi's my overall favorite but not sure how I feel about 2.5 yet in comparison to old Thinking, swiping my story prompts side-by-side 2.5 feels a lot less soulful.
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>>107989991
0.00000000000000000000000000000001 YUAN has been added to your account
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>Kimi-2.5
>yada-yada
>hmm fresh diction eh
>A pause
more like chinklaussy boebeit jajajaja though, yeah some fresh diction…
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>>107990134
2.5 does seem to have a lot more slop baked in which is sad. Not that Thinking was devoid of it, but you could go several swipes without seeing any, which is a marvel by today's standards.
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>female character is even slightly seductive
>sways her hips while walking away
DeepSeek v3 almost always does this to me, but I never chat in English. Does it happen in English as well?
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what's the point of "coom" models if you can't do the "good" stuff..?
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>model focused on "coding"
>expect anything but slop
When will /g/ learn...
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>>107987809
does this one have spirit stones too
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>>107990134
*barfs*
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>>107990220
Use better cards, cuckie
Your patient files will read like patient files
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is kimi smart enough for giant women?
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giant braps…
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>>107990354
It's notoriously bad with spatial awareness, I don't think so.
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>>107990399
back to claude then
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>>107990399
you are aware (pun intended) that llms dont even know what the fuck ‘spatial awareness’ is, even less be able to replicate it?
that’s why they’re good as CHATbots, it’s just dialogue, no complex scenes, no isms, no slop
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>>107990426
>>107990399
>>107990421
>>107990358

Can my sister tell my penis smells even with my underwear on? I dont wash it
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>>107989632
>futanari
if they have a pussy im raping you irl
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>>107989632
> in addition to her vagina.
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>>107990426
they dont know what it is but they have some degree of it
like i had claude 2.1 fuck up one time and think something thats 100 feet tall fit in a one story house and so did deepseek and qwen
most big 3 models nowadays dont have this problem and can understand it a bit
can kimi?
>t. guy that asked the original question about kimi
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>>107990426
nigga I'm just trying to use human language to communicate concepts to (hopefully) other humans
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>>107990451
>>107990461
I don’t get it
How are you supposed to fuck a vagina with big balls flapping on top of it, just spinning right round baby right round on your dick
If I want pussy I’ll go for a REAL one without any kind of obstacles in the way
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Got drunk, wrote a prompt about dorming with an elf roommate who has sensitive ears that make her drool and zone out and then rubbed her ears. Lost gallons.

Thanks, Dario Asmodei!
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>>107990464
modern models have 6 brazillion tonnes more reinforcement learning about vampire billionaires vampiring billionairely across the room scenes, so yes, they fuck up space less, but that also means you’re reading thinly-veiled femoid smut 99% of the time and why we miss older models despite being retarded
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>>107990537
i have stable access to og r1 so the "le assistantslop!!!" meme doesnt matter since i can just swap it in for sovl
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What would you say is the best horde model on sillytavern currently?
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>>107990555
NoAss og r1 is pure soul
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Gpt 4.5 still king
Best prose and nothing comes fucking close
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You don't even know what prose is
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>>107990537
>that also means you’re reading thinly-veiled femoid smut 99% of the time
Where is the downside?
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>>107990662
Begone female
Your kind is not welcome here
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>>107990648
In the velvet hush of an ancient forest where moonlight drips like molten silver through the cathedral arches of elder oaks, Elara the elf stands barefoot upon moss so lush it breathes—her silver hair a cascade of starlit frost, her eyes twin amethysts kindled with secrets older than song. The air itself is heavy with ozone, that sharp electric perfume of magic freshly unfurled, and every leaf trembles in reverent witness to her quiet power. She lifts one graceful hand—long fingers tracing sigils that shimmer and dissolve like dying fireflies—and the night is young, oh so scandalously young, its black satin hem still fringed with the promise of untold hours. This is no mere woodland beauty, no; she is living testament to grace weaponized, every curve of her lithe form a stanza in the oldest poem of starlight and sorrow. Her ministrations upon the wounded glade are tender yet merciless—coaxing sap to sing again, bidding fractured roots to dream of soil they have never known—while somewhere deep within her chest a wild, patient heartbeat whispers: maybe, just maybe, even the dark can be persuaded to kneel.
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>>107990680
I hate women so fucking much
They are so nefarious they even ruin hobbies indirectly
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>>107990680
wow this actually is pretty good, preset/card?
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>>107990637
i wouldnt call it king but it was definitely good
it died way too early
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>>107990680
Tryhard cringe slop. I'd rather read ETL slop
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>>107990707
did they ruin the hobby, or did they make it possible to begin with?
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>>107982017
I'm only just starting my journey to local chatbotting RP. Is SillyTavern local?
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>>107990853
SillyTavern is an interface, typically ran locally, that can interact with both local and web-hosted models.
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you can prose on this DICK lmao !!! gottem XD
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>>107990680
This goes so deep into slop territory it comes right back out on the other side as kino
Well done
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>>107990892
Interesting. In that case, where can I download models for use in SillyTavern?
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>>107990910
i actually like it
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>>107990680
Why do LLMs always insist on "weaponizing" feminine allure? jk I know why.
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Slop in slop out is the only rule. If you're using effective token management and accounting for cost Deepseek is the only real answer. Everything else is novel, watching Claude or Kimi or GLM reason is a sideshow that makes the model seem better than it is. They'll do that for 45 seconds of pure robo-neurosis then output six paragraphs of the most inane slop imaginable while completely losing track a premise isn't derivative of 100 other works.
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>>107990916
i'd probably try looking on the internet first
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>>107991009
UH OH TRVKE
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>>107991009
deepcope hasn't been relevant in a year
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>>107991038
Nothing has been relevant in a year. This hobby is effectively dead, models are being made to replace jobs not porn. Occasionally the two happen to collide and everyone acts like they aren't fucking what is effectively office equipment.
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sex with office ladies
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>Proxy error (HTTP 402 No Keys Available)
owari
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>>107991057
trvklear detionation imminent
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cftf?
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>>107991082
I want to get to the top of her financial summits...
if you know what I mean.
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>>107991113
great post
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>>107991017
What do you use? Everywhere I go points to an on-site browser RP.
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>>107990916
Downloading models means running things local, which is more /lmg/s domain. We prefer private proxies or access providers to the big models that can't be hosted locally around here. The gap between them two is no joke and local tends to get shat on for being tiny and braindead.
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>>107991135
Well I needed to find somewhere. Thanks for pointing me in the right direction, though. Best of luck.
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Has anyone else found that Gemini 3 has a greater adherence to canonical character personalities? My only problem is that it writes so little compared to 4.5pus.
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>>107991051
more like hijacking office printer to print you some bobs and vagene
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>Try API
>Forbidden
Did I get ban or something?
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do people use this for codex or claude code?
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the thing i enjoy the most about gemini is that i can be a lazy shit and give it an image feel and itll do what i want mostly
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qwrqdd0723
do you use opus
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>>107991276
Don't have access to it right now, but when I did? Yeah, exactly the same feelings. I even stress tested it with a few of my more niche interests and it barely needed descriptions to have them pop up and act properly in character with pre-established characters. It might be my favorite model just for that.

Personally trying to tweak my own preset's wording to try and adjust its writing length as well. Really wish it was better at not overdoing it sometimes though
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>>107991038
They killed open AI and hopefully will kill every american AI company
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you'll never be chinese btw
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>>107991638
spirit stone api has gemmy which im 99% sure is real
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>>107990910
seconding this
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>>107988535
had to look it up
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armenian_eternity_sign
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>>107990910
3rding this
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>>107991819
>Actually using Shitinity
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>>107991740
It has some? Fuck, thanks anon I'll check it out. Been needing to scratch the itch
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>no you cant be having fun with trinity saar you must stop now saar
careful not to use a model ranjeesh over here doesnt like otherwise hell start chimping out
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chink gemini is fake
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>>107991930
it's probably not fake but scuffed. either antigravity or cli.
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gpt/gemini/glm/deepseek/moonshot/qwen proxy
https://occasions-farm-oliver-suggest.trycloudflare com/
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Is Gemini down? I can't seem to get any responses.
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>>107992172
>>107992172
>>107992172
NEW BREAD GO TO BREAD
ABANDON BREAD
NEW BREAD GO TO BREAD
>>107992172
>>107992172
>>107992172
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desu
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boku
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bokudes

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