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READ THE (temp)WIKI! & help by contributing:
https://igwiki.lyci.de/wiki/Home_server
/hsg/ is about learning and expanding your horizons. Know all about NAS? Learn virtualization. Spun up some VMs? Learn about networking by standing up a OPNsense/PFsense box and configuring some VLANs. There's always more to learn and chances to grow. Think you’re god-tier already? Setup OpenStack and report back.
>What software should I run?
Install Gentoo. Or whatever flavor of *nix is best for the job or most comfy for you. Jellyfin/Emby/Plex to replace Netflix, Nextcloud to replace Googlel, Ampache/Navidrome to replace Spotify, the list goes on. Look at the awesome self-hosted list and ask.
>Why should I have a home server?
De-botnet your life. Learn something new. Serving applications to yourself, your family, and your frens feels good. Put your tech skills to good use for yourself and those close to you. Store their data with proper availability redundancy and backups and serve it back to them with a /comfy/ easy to use interface.
>Links & resources
Cool stuff to host: https://github.com/awesome-selfhosted/awesome-selfhosted
https://reddit.com/r/datahoarder
https://www.reddit.com/r/homelab/wiki/index
https://wiki.debian.org/FreedomBox/Features
ARM-based SBCs: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1PGaVu0sPBEy5GgLM8N-CvHB2FESdlf BOdQKqLziJLhQ
Low-power x86 systems: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1LHvT2fRp7I6Hf18LcSzsNnjp10VI-o dvwZpQZKv_NCI
SFF cases https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1AddRvGWJ_f4B6UC7_IftDiVudVc8CJ 8sxLUqlxVsCz4/
Cheap disks: https://shucks.top/ https://diskprices.com/
PCIE info: https://files.catbox.moe/id6o0n.pdf
>i226-V NICs are bad for servers
>For more SATA ports, use PCIe SAS HBAs in IT mode
WiFi fixing: pastebin.com/raw/vXJ2PZxn
Cockpit is nice for remote administration
Remember:
RAID protects you from DOWNTIME
BACKUPS protect you from DATA LOSS
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I'm anon who bought a mikrotik router last thread. What's the deal with transcievers? If I just buy cisco ones what's the ods that it wont work? Also I can have different ones on each end of a cable for my router and say, an intel nic?
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You guys know about internets and stuff, pls halp.
Tor browser has started acting up big time for me, nearly ununsable. Was working fine on this ISP before, but last month it changed. Basically, the Tor address keeps changing. Like around every 5 seconds, though there is some variabililty, sometimes it can be 10-20 seconds, sometimes like 1-2 seconds. But all three addresses (the guard node, middle node, and outer node) all change together every few seconds. Now using it for some websites impossible.
To make sure it wasn't a computer specific or installation specific problem, I tried a different computer. Same problem. Then on one of them I even used a VPN first (the server I connected to was in a different country than my home country) and then ran Tor browser on top of the VPN connection. Same problem.
Both instances I tried were on Windows (inb4 the obvious, I know). What could be going on?
Windows (or the Tor build for Windows) problem? Maybe, but no one else seems to be having this problem, if it was a problem with that then the issue would be widespread.
ISP fuckery? Possibly, but like I said it was fine before last month. Plus shouldn't the VPN have prevented any deliberate ISP or nation-wide fuckery?
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Should I buy a fan for this thing? I was told HBAs have a tendency to run hot.
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>>108014720
I've heard that copper runs hot. I picked up a couple of just the modules so that I can get it integrated with my current network, but it's under my bed, so I'll probably want to be prerty conscientious about that.
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>>108014731
My HBA and NIC are both covered by a bracket mounted fan that's -supposed- to be used as auxiliary airflow for a GPU. You can get them for like 10 dollars on amazon if you don't want to have anything physically interacting with your cards and your case is compatible, like most of the Fractal Define and Meshify ones. Some motherboards and GPUs also come with support brackets that you can screw a 120mm fan to.
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I have an app on a docker container listening on port 8133.
I configured an apache reverse proxy so I could access it outside my network through my domain with TLS. However I keep getting a 502 trying to access it on an external network.
I did some fiddling around and only when I opened TCP port 8133 did the error go away. I'm retarded so please excuse me if I misunderstand this but I thought setting up the reverse proxy was so you don't have to expose your ports outside?
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>>108014552
just don't buy that yurotrash garbo. There are a 1000 better options
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>>108018323
nevermind what /hsg/ thinks of it. I learned early on that you don't force these things to users who don't want it.
Make it work. Show it off to them. And only if they ask, "oh anon that's cool, how do I join?" do you let them in
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>>108017826
Interesting, but for the moment at least, I'll need to stick with the adapter modules. When I get arround to getting the new nics for my server and pc, one will need to go through a keystone and the other will need to go all of the way arround a room. I'm planning to use one of those lc fiber keystones for fun, even though I could just use a cat 8 and run copper.
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Currently I have the telus nh20 router with one of their ap's. I'm worried that if I put the router in bridge mode and start using my new router it'll fuck up the connections of all of the iot devices. I think they should be fine, as they're all connected to the ap and will just have to get new ip's from the new router, but I really don't want to deal with troubleshooting all of them. Especially if I can't just go back to using the isp router. If anyone has experience with telus stuff that would be great. Thanks.
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my boss sent me a pic of her last halloween outfit as a goth baddie with her cleavage popping out then smoke started to come out of my Cisco Catalyst 1200-8P-E-2G and now i'm waiting for a rma.
thank you for reading my blog and god bless.
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damn
is there really no "in-place" method of applying compression recursively through a zpool
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What's the best filesystem for cold storage?
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The one I got is something that claims to be "Same as 9300-8I" and has a Broadcom 3008.
I need to flash it to IT mode as it's replacing an existing HBA (a Dell PERC H310 flashed to IT mode - it's being replaced because it only runs at half the capable bandwidth of the attached hard drives and I keep getting I/O errors when I try to do stuff with the array, which either could be the HBA itself or the cabling and the cables I'm using are incompatible with the new one anyway so I also replace those in the process).
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>>108013436
sorry for asking here, but what's a good cheapish router?
my actual router is like 12 years old
it still works properly but when there are over 20 devices connected to wifi I feel it chokes lol
I was looking at the ASUS RT-AX52, I'd rather keep 2.4ghz support because the house I live in is huge and I rather not use wifi extenders anymore. I'll just use it for normalfag activities like lightly torrenting, gaming, streaming.
How's the bandwidth control/mac filtering on these?
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>>108022927
Whichever works. If the Asus one is cheap for you, then get it.
Although I would suggest to hard wire them instead of using wifi.
I use the Amazon Eero since it came free with my ISP. I have 15 devices that uses wifi and it does well enough. But I live in a small house so your mileage may vary.
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Another question about networking.
I inherited a farm recently. It's 23 hectares big, which is huge. While I plan to work on the field in the summer I want to be able to connect to my home network. What's the best way to connect to it? I can use my phone but I would rather not use my phone's data.
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>>108017927
Without seeing your setup it's hard to say, but it sounds like either your reverse proxy can't talk to the container (different docker networks?) or this is a configuration issue. You are understanding correctly, though you still need to expose a port for the proxy itself.
>>108020835
I like urbackup. It's saved me plenty of times. Restoring from image over the network is also super easy. Get the restore iso, put it on a ventoy or something.
Caveat being I haven't used other backup solutions, so maybe something works better. But urbackup seems to work just fine.
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how come every nas distro cant replicate synology web UI? that shit is snappy as fuck full of features and just works. are they really the apple of nas boxes where everyone else tries to compete with their UI but fails miserably
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HBA (>>108014731) flashed to IT mode and it picks up the first four drives I connected to it.
So it seems to be working. Didn't need to tape-mod it either. Need to hook up the next four drives now (but I need to go fetch some 3.5" adapter rails for the final HDD in the other chain to fit it in my case).
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>>108017927
>I thought setting up the reverse proxy was so you don't have to expose your ports outside
Yes, that is what it's supposed to do.
Sounds like you have something misconfigured. What app is it that you're running? What does your apache config look like?
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Is this a "real" price or should I look at another JBOD/DAS? I have 15 (14tb) HDDs.
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wendell here
i'm fat as shit
here's a bunch of hardware you can't afford
come to my forum to talk about AI for some reason. we're totally not a bunch of assholes.
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>>108025743
him and linus has done a lot of harm in the home server community.
i stopped watching their shit years ago when they were sponsored by server resellers and they try to push the idea that you need expensive shit to start a home server.
fuck them
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>>108025936
i agree but the opposite is also true lately with subreddits and forums flooded with
>my homeserver is a desktop motherboard with a sandybridge i3 duct taped to a wooden crate and my ping is very high, how do i fix this server my fellow server owners?
or the classic
>please help me buy a bunch of pc parts and also give me ideas what server stuff i should do with them
both just as worse.
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>>108025687
It's 24x. Pop 12-15 HDDs in. Pop in a SAS HBA into my server, connect the HBA and JBOD using QSFP SFF-8088 SAS cable.
My server is a R730 with only 8 front bays that are SFF 2.5" drives, so I have to use a DAS/JBOD.
Unless there's an alternative?
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>>108026001
Muscle mommies should be next
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>>108026118
when i was 8 years old my godfather squashed a lightningbug into my hand and told me that niggerpussy tastes like chocolate. To this day im curious if there is any truth to that but the closest ive came to this understanding was smashing a half-black femboy
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Make sure to try to get one with Delta psus, way quieter and use a LOT less power. I wouldn't put mine in my bedroom but it's maybe as loud as a normal conversation and it only uses about 40 watts for itself (250 total with 24 sas drives) vs the ~100 with powerone psus. Ask the sellers to check and verify. 500 bucks is a bit much too (that seller is pretty overpriced in general imo), you can probably get it for like $300-350 with the shelf and trays separate, even less if you live near a seller and do local pickup to save on shipping and/or have a 3d printer and print your own trays. Alternative is something like an emc ktn-stl3 which tend to be cheaper and hold exactly 15 drives so there is no wasted capacity but also can't add anymore without getting another one obviously. Also idk about their power use and noise and such so can't comment there. Another option if you really want to spend $500 is a supermicro cse847, 36 trays and also has quiet psus available, has a 2u size atx computer compartment or you can put in a "powerboard" to have it function as a pure jbod without another computer. Main downside of the 847 vs 846 is the 2u size computer area vs 4u due to the extra 12 drive backplane on the rear, however 846s cost literally double or more than an 847 (likely due to 2u vs 4u computer area) so personally I would get an 847 and just deal with needing low pro cards and such.
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>>108026509
kiki vhyce is real
you must be more of an emma hartley fella
there are plenty of mommy waifus for both of us
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I'm benchmarking a 10 HDD raidz2 with fio and getting strange results. single job, 16 iodepth 4M reads (direct=1, sync=0) can be close to 1600 MiB/s or be under 200 MiB/s. When it gets stuck at 200 MiB/s I need to test a write and then the read test jumps back up to 1600 MiB/s. wtf is going on?
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What would i use if I want to catalogue my media in a database? So I know if I already have something or what variants I have found/have. Along with tagging artist. And if it's digital media, maybe a link to where it is on my network.
Not looking for a full ass player like Jellyfin or a music player, since those can't keep track of what I don't have yet.
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should i get a new drive
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i just ordered some old thinkcentre mini pc to start experimenting with a home server for the first time. i want to host ebooks and manga on the server and be able to download/browse them with a boox ereader using koreader. ive seen booklore seems to be pretty good, does anyone know if its good enough for manga or if i should use a seperate program for manga and regular ebooks?
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>>108035020
>booklore
>manga
How (and how often) are you going to update your library? Do you only ever read official rips that are available on torrents?
Sure it works as a browser for a fixed collection but if you follow ongoing manga check Suwayomi instead.
It's a Mihon-compatible manga manager with client-server design and native OPDS support for ereaders.
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I'm not sure if it's a docker network issue but then again, I'm retarded. My apache is not on a docker container, only the app is.
>>108023711
It's solidtime, just a personal time tracker I use. Here is the compose yaml with the relevant bitsservices:
app:
image: "solidtime/solidtime:${SOLIDTIME_IMAGE_TAG:-latest}"
ports:
- '${FORWARD_APP_PORT:-8000}:8000'
networks:
- internal
FORWARD_APP_PORT in the .env is set to 8133.
The apache config is in an include file located in /etc/apache2/conf.d/userdata/ssl/2_4/user/subdomain.domian.com/include .conf ProxyPreserveHost On
ProxyPass / http://127.0.0.1:8133/ connectiontimeout=5 timeout=300 retry=0
ProxyPassReverse / http://127.0.0.1:8123/
RequestHeader set X-Forwarded-Proto "https"
Protocols http/1.1
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>>108017927
Yes you have to open the port on your firewall, unless you have a VPN tunnel to the container, like if you're using another reverse proxy like cloud flare(created a VPN tunnel from cloudflares servers to yours).
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>>108025743
>Envious poor people shit on success
Many such cases. Wendall is actually cool and useful, nothing like Linus
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>>108029973
That's expected behavior. I went through this exact same thing on my 8hdd zpool in unraid. I thought I was crazy but no the hdds just reach an equilibrium under heavy long read or write. It's actually normal to have those speeds
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what a bad year for buying any computer component. 1.5 year ago I bought some refurbished 2TB HDDs with one year warranty for 38.5€ each and a mini pc with n100/8gb ram/512nvme for 100€. The same shop now sells the 2TB HDDs for 69€ and mini PCs like that go for 150€ - 200€. I wanted to transfer all my HDDs in a nice small case (Jonsbo N1) and create a proper setup instead of plugging in all the HDDs on the mini pc with external USB adapters like an Indian, but the price of everything is just too high. Grim.
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>>108035278
thanks, going to check it out.
>>108035749
minimum 8+ ports, noise doesn't matter and it shouldn't use too much power. Heat shouldnt be a problem, the rack is in the basement.
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>>108037246
But shouldn't the only open ports be 80 and 443 for apache? Not the port that the docker container is listening to?
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it's funny to see the sheer self-incriminating soi-projection on reddit whenever someone wants to host stuff on their rack for their friends
>really? you wanna host files for your friends to easily access? get ready for FBI raids buddy!
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>>108036670
Ok, a couple things looking at this.
Unless you have a pretty unusual setup, you probably want both proxypass and proxypassreverse to both be the same http://127.0.0.1:8133/
Make sure your apache is actually running and actually including the correct config.
ODouble check that you can actually hit your service from the host. On the hose, do a curl http://127.0.0.1:8133/ and make sure that it resolves. You might have something fucked up that's preventing it from being reachable from loopback.
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>>108037391
one of the many examples: a presentation linked in a random top comment for someone asking about such hosting
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>>108037467
He's right though. You should also never ever let your friends into your house or your car because what if they plant 5 bricks of cocaine under the floor while your back is turned and then get you arrested
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>>108037685
if you actually look at the fucking reddit post, it's reddit making fun of the slides.
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>>108037463
>you probably want both proxypass and proxypassreverse to both be the same http://127.0.0.1:8133/
please see >>108036674
>Make sure your apache is actually running and actually including the correct config.
if by running, you mean it's serving pages, yes it does serve other pages (not docker apps). The only way I know the include works is because the reverse proxy is not working without it, as in nothing is being served at subdomain.domain.com
>ODouble check that you can actually hit your service from the host. On the hose, do a curl http://127.0.0.1:8133/ and make sure that it resolves. You might have something fucked up that's preventing it from being reachable from loopback.
curling http://127.0.0.1:8133/ does resolve but... you know what I just had an idea. I'll go try it later and update.
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>108022927
cisco 2800 series but you will get hacked probably unless you set it up right
>108023180
>I inherited a farm recently. It's 23 hectares big, which is huge.
kek no, tiny
>108020835
use another PC o the lan and peer torrent the compressed image, each machine on the lan should seed it's own image
>108020899
get an old dell MD1200
Anyone else here have a dell m1000e chassis?
I enjoy mine
>>108026977
I have to wear earmuffs if I stand behind my m1000e when I power it on, it sounds like a jet engine getting ready for takeoff
>>108029728
>You don't need dozens of terabytes of storage. It's possible to keep your accounts on private trackers active by cross-seeding 1-2 TB of data altogether.
yes
all my shit is offlined
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I thought the issue was I needed to explicitly state the port in the compose file to be 127.0.0.1:8133 instead of just 8133 which defaults to 0.0.0.0:8133 but that didn't work either so I still don't know why I had to forward port 8133 in csf for the apache reverse proxy to work
FYI curling gives me this when the port is closedcurl http://127.0.0.1:8133
curl: (56) Recv failure: Connection reset by peer
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Openwrt on my TP-Link wifi + Ethernet router needs to be physically power cycled once a month. It throws my services offline, and I'm always skeptical when I leave my house for more than a few days it will shit itself again and cry for papa.
I'm considering just using the stock tp link software it came with. I don't know if that'll solve it, but it's worth a shot. I could imagine it being more stable.
Besides the Chinese backdoor TP-Link software, I heard pfsense is good. But it requires a computer, not a router, to run?
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What SW do anons on here use for remote file management?
Currently I use rsync/sftp and it's a pain. I'd prefer an interactive web-application like Google Drive/Dropbox, but obviously FOSS and self-hosted.
I looked into NextCloud but it seems feature-bloated, which would not be so bad by itself but it is all written in PHP which is just unacceptable.
There's Seafile is Chinese.
So far I've got my eyes on Syncthing, anyone got experience with it?
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>>108039982
I use the free 1TB of onedrive. I kinda hate to have it all unencrypted there but it pretty critical thing and really convenient. All alternatives seems shit. I still use rclone to copy to local NAS and some stuff to s3 buckets in case I get nucked off microsoft
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I used both, still do. Navidrome for music, and Jellyfin for films.
I'd say Navidrome is an upgrade from Jellyfin when it comes to music. Less buggy/clunky, snappier, light-weight, better music organisation (like jellyfin does not know how to handle compilation albums). The only con is that Navidrome does not have in-built metadata editor.
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Forgot to add Navidrome uses Subsonic as backend, so it's possible to have it in jukebox mode. If you connect your server to some speakers you can control playback from your phone or PC application. Not from web-app though sadly.
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I've only been using Syncthing lately. Found it to be the least annoying option that allows usage of any file manager across devices, without slow FUSE mounts and added network latency and VPNs. The things I need synced fit on phones and laptops and I break them up in separate directories regardless (some are push-pull, some are push-only, some are untrusted).
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>>108035590
So far I've only read official rips from nyaa on the ereader and I have no experience on how this works best for ongoing manga. Weekly releases I usually just read on my phone using an app like Mihon. Is there a convenient way to automatically get newest manga chapters similar to *arr services for other media? Also do you recommend using Mihon for reading manga on an ereader too? Ive only had a kobo reader before which was very annoying to deal with metadata wise and I dont even wanna know how this wouldve went when getting single chapters instead of whole volumes.
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>>108018400
This. I've tried many times hosting stuff for my friends and family, but they almost never cared about it. Build something for yourself first, and to someone you know for sure is interested, then let others show interest. You can show them what you've built, but don't expect them to care immediatly.
This is how I got people into linux. I stopped yapping about it on any chance I got, and just started silently using it, and mentioning it off-hand during conversations where it would be relevant, such as talking about how much Windows 11 sucks ass. People would see me using it on my laptop and sometimes when I was streaming my desktop and ask me about it. Weeks and months passed, we would keep talking about other stuff and I would only bring up linux when it was relevant, and this is how I got a lot of people to give it a try, many more than I expected.
We don't change our behaviour just because someone wants us to, we must think it is our choice to change first. Show them what you like about it, but don't be overwhelming nor make it your "mission" to get them on board. We can feel when someone is forcing us, and naturally reject what they want even if we'd otherwise accept it on our own.
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>>108041322
Suwayomi is a mihon-like library for your server.
Same extensions, same scheduled downloads for ongoing titles, but with webui and tools to sync to your other devices.
Though I set it up not on a server but on a laptop and always carry my backlog for offline reading.
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Hi /hsg/, normie here
Just got into servers with an m720q tiny which runs all my VM's and containers, but it only supports 1 sata drive so I need some basic file serving.
Should I just get some ancient synology 212, get a newer nas, or scrap the whole thing and build a server inside a jonsbo case?
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>>108041992
Yes.
It supports local files but those are exactly as inconvenioent as on mobile mihon, requiring custom metadata description files.
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>>108042130
They don't scrape fan scanlation readers, but anything that's on torrents gets uploaded there immediately, conveniently sorted by title with tags and descriptions instead of retarded "weekly sitename dump" packs.
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I set up navidrome and it seems to work better than jellyfin so far. It seems putting the data folder inside the music dir corrupts the db when scanning so don't do that
Any favorite clients? I have Amperfy and Arpeggi for mac and ios. They seem fine, I just hope they don't corrupt and wipe the download cache cause I'n not proxying navidrome
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On desktop I run via the web-app mostly but I did try Feishin, it works with jukebox mode which I use at home.
On phone I currently am trying out Ultrasonic but it is unintuitive to use at best, and some features do not work as expected, for example "Shuffle" plays random song from a list non-exhaustively, so same song can play more than once before others in that list ever play, which is dumb.
Consensus online is that Symphonium is the best phone application by far, I haven't tried it myself since it is proprietary software.
However if you are fine with running non-free, give it a try, it has a free trial and is pay-once if you like it. Not sure if it is available for iOS
Another good app I heard about, but exclusively for iOS, is called play:Sub, maybe you can look into it and report back.
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>>108014526
Still having this problem? Try the /sqt/ thread, this general isn't really for help with this kind of problem.
Here's the current /sqt/ as of right now. Good luck man, hope you can fix the issue.
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Source?
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Hello friends,
I have learned I am retarded with networking and could use some help, I was trying to think of a networking solution that works for me, specifically, I just have a truenas server and my flint 3 router
I am trying to make it so that I don't need to type IPs for local docker containers, but I also have tailscale running on my router, so the idea was when I am remote, I could type in some addresses that would automatically redirect on the network to specific ports on the truenas server
I know there's nginx reverse proxy manager, and adguard home on my router allows dns redirects, but I can't specify a port on that, do I need another separate device to function as a reverse proxy here or am I retarded
TLDR: locally route specific ports to generic domains like "home.videos" strictly internally when I have just my router and truenas server, but have this also work when connected to something like tailscale
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I'm trying to move away from the Red Hat corporate LLM globohomo. I'm running mostly Alpine Linux but on my offsite VPS I run services baremetal, and at home I'm experimenting with Docker, which is admittedly convenient but abstracts too much shit away.
Should I move everything everything to Docker or should I go full luddite and do FreeBSD Jails?
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>>108043720
Your proxy needs to let you create virtual IP addresses. It then needs to alias each vIP to whatever IP:port your services are running on. Then you get your DNS server to point your domains to each vIP. Once all this works locally, it should just work through wireguard/tailscale, so long as you're not overriding the network's default DNS.
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>>108039696
i never used wrt because wifi just sucks with it
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Me while I wait for everyone to go to sleep so that I can rape the isp router into bridge mode and hook up the new one. Also my isp not having hairpin nat is gay and retarded.
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>>108041913
I built a regular PC with a 5700G and a m-ATX motherboard. Draws 20 watts without disks. I think building a big machine and putting Proxmox inside is a good option if you have money. Secondhand parts are cheap. You can still use your mini pc as a router. I have a mini pc with Proxmox and have OpenWrt virtualized.
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>>108037318
yeah there's no way you're pushing actual 25g traffic if you're worried about power usage and only need 8 ports. it was a trick question.
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>>108047022
man you fucking retards DO NOT KNOW networking for shit with this hairpin NAT requirement and using fucking proxies everywhere internally on your network. you guys need to read some networking literature instead of bandaiding the shit out of your environment.
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>>108048833
Depends. I really overshot with 5700G because I just wanted a beefy CPU that'll last me for years. Some low power intel CPU may be better for your workflow. Depending on the country finding stuff like NAS cases or Synology devices can be hard or more expensive than a regular office PC which was the case for me.
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>>108048833
>That's quite a lot. Should be below 10 without disks
first of all i wouldnt get amd either
second, you would be surprised to see how many watts an equivalent 6bay or 8bay synology is pulling when idle (spoiler: way more)
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i can't figure this shit out with jellyfin. log message says something like this while uploading a (somewhat large) subtitle file. i can't seem to find an option to increase this limit in the web client or in the config files. is it even possible to change this?
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