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>bought a new RTX card
>green screen

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>bought an AMD card
>Things that didn't happen

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>>108044935
>The first thing every jeetforce buyer sees upon trying to start their new nvidia pc for the first time

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>Hospital, factory and office PCs from 2009 running Windows XP with barely any maintenance are still functioning today
>Something in my PC dies every 8 years
What gives?

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>Buy a Radeon card
>End up with crippling buyer's remorse
>Spend the best time of your life shitposting in /pcbg/, for well over a year.
>>108038410

>>108044961
5070 is already the #5 card on steam. 5060 is #8.
Wow. That's fucking wild.

>buy $1400 build after weeks of researching
>feel good about myself until..
>immediately find out you lost out on a deal that could get 20% more spec/performance for the same price

I fucking hate this hobby

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>>108045007
>built in November
>got good deals on everything (except ram reeee)
>still check my parts list to see what it would cost now
>feel relieved everything still costs $1000 more today than when I built

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>>108044979
i still remember MLID claiming for months that nvidia was going to release the super refresh on september/october/november because AMD unboxed said RDNA4 was outselling blackwell

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Concise CPU and GPU guide for newfags
>Intel + Nvidia = Faggot Normie Consoomer or Indian
>Ryzen + Nvidia = Reddit
>Intel + Arc = Brain Damage
>Ryzen + Arc = Schizo
>Intel + Radeon = Schizo
>Ryzen + Radeon = Real PC Enthusiast #Pewdiepie approved

>>108045007
Some PC components get cheaper, shocker.

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BLACKWELL UNDEFEATED

RADEON APPROACHING BANKUPTCY

>>108045046
that's not the point. you need to have precognition and omniscience to not get fucked over by pricing and shit. it's disgusting

The eternal waitfag...

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UHH UHH SO THE GOAL IS UHHH 40% MARKETSHARE AND UHH YEAH THAT'S WHY WE ONLY MADE TWO GPUS AND UHHH UM DEVS STILL AREN'T ANSWERING OUR CALLS AFTER WE PAID THEM TO NOT USE DLSS AND IT BACKFIRED MASSIVELY AND UHHH UHH UMMM HAVE YOU SEEN OUR APUS THOUGH THAT STEAM DECK WOW

>>108045060
No one can perfectly time the market.
SSDs were at all-time lows in 2023, and the better binned DDR5 kits were out after 2024.
You might as well never build a PC with that kind of poorfag mentality.

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so done with these fucking driver issues on my 5070 ti. i was in the middle of typing up a shitpost dunking on the AMDrones ITT when my screen went black and I had to turn my whole pc off. im rmaing and switching to 9070 xt fuck it idc anymore.

are all twitch streams for literal lobotomy patients?

>>108045091
>I'm sad because I bought 1 fruit when I could have gotten 2 for the same price
>UR JUST POOR JUST GAMBLE YOUR MONEY EACH TIME

masochist lol

>>108045114
You are a wise one. you can get your fake vagina nvidia tattoo removed at no cost thanks to Lisa Su's "switch on us" program.

>>108045114
Ok we get it bro

Nvidia bad

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GeForce xisters how do I respond without sounding mad when Nico-Poster tells me that we're still not capable of playing the only game worth getting a new pc for, Cyberpunk with RT Overdrive?
It's playable on the current gen midrange Radeon cards (9070 and 9070 XT) because of FSR4 (now natively supported), but we don't have that nor an upscaler stable enough to brute force a higher resolution.
How do I cope??? When I booted up DLSS 4.5 transformer for the first time on my 5070 and saw the grass shadows flickering like this I had a full on dysphoric breakdown and almost overdosed on my HRT pills and had to get my stomach pumped at the ER.

Do people really spend time and money building killer PCs just to come here and fight over brands on these threads that disappear in less than a day?
Count your blessings. You could've been stuck on integrated graphics.

>>108045133
You played yourself I got 5 fruits at launch and they are worth 50 fruits now

>>108045133
You're sad because you're obsessed with that 1 fruit.
You got a deal on some other PC components that have risen in price. You can't win them on. Life goes on.

>>108045160
Radeon Retards can't play games on their shitty cards and 10 year old 1440p 144Hz displays, the cards suck too much.

>>108045179
I still feel I was robbed

>>108045179
Why should he feel okay? He was totally jewed. He'll probably never get over it.

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>>108044928

>>108044902
>They're the same thing but better than Gsync
I find it hard to believe AMD has anything better than NVIDIA, especially software. Freesync was based because it was free, no other reason.

You are now aware that Radeon contains the word radio. You are now aware nvidia rtx contains the word raid.

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Hol up
New GPU just dropped
5090 AI BOX Edition

>>108045224
Thats targeted at idiots who buy mini PCs. This is /pcbg/, where systems have chest hair.

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>>108045160
>Do people really spend time and money building killer PCs just to come here and fight over brands on these threads that disappear in less than a day?
Yes pic related. I must keep these inturds and nvidiots seething and in their place at all times for Lisa and in honor of our Aryan Micro Devices pcs.

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>>108045207
Did you sleep under a rock with your Intel CPU and Speccy? Nvidia has worse software than AMD now.

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It's February 2026.
The 5070 TI is the most expensive it has ever been in its lifetime

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any recommendations for a compact matx case thats got a full side window

i have one of these things, a zzew c2p, or whatever fake name they call it
and the thumbscrews stripped instantly because theyre just tapped straight into the softest aluminum chassis anyones ever made

but i want a case like this that isnt built like dogshit

>>108045248
If you cleaned up those cables it might actually pass

>unlike (you)

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>>108045248
48 hours remain

>>108045204
>He was totally jewed
Only if that deal was available at the time he bought all the PC components.

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>>108044928
how come that nigga didn't buy this B580 colour variant?

>>108045248
one of the ugliest builds you'll ever see typical AMDrone shit

friendly reminder that if your case has a side panel, lgbt lights and or is on your desk that you will never be a woman.

>>108045280
It was.

>>108045258
>$1300 to be worse than a 9070xt
kek

>>108045248
This build gave me eye cancer

>>108045305
*glass

AMD, Nvidia, and Intel are in deep doodoo

They made cards for certain vram chip counts.

You can't just retrofit them for other configuratoins.

The pain comes :^)

I thought tandem oled would be the one but it's looking like qd-oled is just better

i will have to wait for the new qd-oled tech for better blacks

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Updated my fan curve

Does this look good for general use and gaming?

>>108045326
fangs don't need to come on before 50C

>>108045325
if you been to a mega store that has panels out for preview you will notice the QD has much better viewing angles. the picture is perfect when you walk down the aisle, WOLED and LCD turns to crap. that is enough to sway normies to QD.

>>108045350
I mean fans, not fangs. I am not a vampire.
I am NOT a vampire.

>>108045308
Then that's your fault. You wrote as if the better deal was available a few weeks after you finished building the PC.

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>>108045364
Vampires? In this low income neighborhood? Ridiculous.

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>>108045007
Sry to hear it, I know the feeling. Alas, the tech market is rly volatile. Sometimes it works in your favor, sometimes it kicks you in the balls.

>>108045396
Again I don't have omniscience to know every possible price in every possible store

>>108045407
Next time I'm going to just buy cheap shit that works instead of soi "optimizing" because getting invested this much is reddit faggotry

>>108045430
You live in the easiest time for deal searching.
Maybe you live in a shithole where PCPP couldn't give a fuck about your region.

>>108045249
Dude If I buy you a 5070ti will you fuck off. Will that break the curse you put on yourself?

>>108045458
Whatever. You can't even acknowledge an obvious fact of building

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>>108045482
that gpu cant even run pic related without crashing

>>108045517
Is this gay porn?

>>108045482
No, he'd rather earn it by blowing you 50 times first.

>>108045527
Gross. I'd rather buy him a 5090 not to.

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>Buy 9060XT
>by default the fans don't run without load so it idles at 55 C
>download adrenaline software to disable that so fans always run and proportional to load

>if my PC crashes, the settings I applied weeks ago get reverted and the program even tells me this
>"ur pc crashed and AMD adr has been reset to default settings"
>have to redo it every time

This is some buillshit.

>>108045717
>by default the fans don't run without load so it idles at 55 C

So whats wrong with that? It's well within spec. All you are doing is using more power running the fans, the GPU is still dissipating the same amount of energy.

>Maybe you like the noise?

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>>108044928
Be blunt you cocksuckers...Is the rtx 5080/4090/5090' the only future proof cards and everything else is becoming obsolete by this year?

>>108045046
except in latam where 8gb cards are sold at fucking +$500(5050). Those dudes are still selling like the crypto boom is still relevant.

>>108045717
Flash your own bios if you're this autistic?

What do you think Death Stranding 2 requirements are going to be with Kojimaslop ?

>>108045776
nvidia has history of longer driver support for their hardware.

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I built and have been gaming on this nonstop for the past month or so. The build is inaudible when gaming even without headphones. Couldn't be happier with it.

AMA about it if anons are curious about building anything similar.

>>108045824
What made you choose an 870 board?

>>108045776
4090 and 5090, yes
5080? Probably not

>>108045776
Yes. 5080 will last well, but it really depends on the next gen. NVIDIA my not even make anything less than a 6080.

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Reposting here cause it died off at the very end of the thread.
>>108043039
>>108044474

>>108043319
I think you totally missed the point. I don't need to jump the PSU, it powers on just fine, the system powers on just fine. I just need a kind of connector that the PSU doesn't have I think.

>>108043190
>de pin the connector make a Y cable out of two pcie

When you say de-pin what do you mean? Like cut material away from an existing 8 pin connector until it fits? And yeah a Y cable is basically what I had in mind.

Pic related is more specifically what I am planning. I'll get an actual 8-pin CPU cable, cut off one end, do the same with a pair of 6-pin connectors, and then solder/splice them together according to pic related. The green vs blue lines are just to make it easier to follow what goes where. Of course I'll heat-shrink the joints so there's no possibility of creating a short.

someone get their mom to hold up their pc so I can see how big they are. She doesn't have to get dressed up for me.

>>108045776
not with those linux & windows drivers

>>108045906
>Nvidia driver problems
>Artifacting in games, fixable by rolling back to older drivers
>New drivers generally work fine apart from game specific issues

>AMD driver problems
>Desktop rendering issues, Adrenaline crashes, browser crashes, black screens and bsods
>Updating to new drivers are a risk to system stability
You were saying?

>>108045789
I don't think its autistic to want my GPU program to save its settings and remember them.

>>108045838
Features of the board matched what I wanted. No compromises on speed in lanes, button to remove gpu, other QoL features etc. Plan is to keep this build for 6-8 years and replace my GPU with a 6080 o 7080 in the future as well as potentially replace the CPU if necessary.

>>108045929
curse vishnu

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me and the bros when we take a bath together

>>108045929
Nvidia can't even manage Linux PACMAN
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SKx9TewMaMw

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>>108045950
Ah, yes, Linux, the 4% of desktop users with whatever subset of that is layered on top or Arch. No one actually gives a shit about them. Nvidiot cards work fine for real science and datacenter stuff where it actually matters for Linux.

>Oh, it's 4.02%. My apologies for the errata.

>>108045983
Why yes, I'll have one unknown operating system please.

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>>108045983
>unknown
>that high up
Wh-what's all these unknown OSes running out there?

>>108045996
millions upon millions of tiny things connected to a global telecom network.

>meanwhile the moles have invaded my yard

>>108045996
>>108046011
Better call the X-files and an exterminator.

>>108045996
FreeBSD. Aka the Playstation OS.

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>they didnt buy the $60 samsung 990 pro deal that was posted a while ago

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>>108044961
>>108044979
>>108045048
I COMMAND THEE KNEEL

>>108044961
*cough* amdbros.... *cough*

>>108046046
Youtubers seethed at him, mocked him, called him a liar and as usual, a year later, everyone boughted nvidia. The bestselling card of the 50 series. The best priced card of the 50 series. The fastest selling XX70 card EVER. AMDrones in shambles.

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>>108044961
>its not even a specific amd card, its every amd card combined that made it to rank 15
LEMEOWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW

>>108045938
Wanting to disable idle fan off is pretty autistic in my book.

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>>108045824
>x3d are unavailable because of paranoid incel losers buying these out of stock, thank you modern women for gatekeeping pussy and creating hordes of incel losers that have to resort to expensive PC gaming to give purpose to their lives
>RTX 5080 jesus christ, 16 GB VRAM for $1500 now
Maybe you got these before the Ram Chaos, still, fuck you for being such a braggart and a nigger faggot

Help me improve my budget build please.

motherboard: MSI PRO B660M-A CEC WIFI $85
cpu: I5 124100 $75
gpu: rtx 3070 $200
ram: 32gb 3600ghz $110
hd: 1tb wd_black 5150 $90
psu: EVGA 850W GQ 80+ GOLD $60

total: $620

>>108045938
>autistic

>>108046082
Diagnosis confirmed. Autist likes the whooshing noise.

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>>108046096
looks pretty good poorbro, maybe if you have 20 more dollars you can budget for a after market cpu cooler https://www.amazon.com/Thermalright-Knight-Cooler-1500RPM-Desktop/dp/B0DCNY3D3R

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>>108046086
>x3d are unavailable

>>108046086
How is posting my build in the pc building general bragging? Do we not want to post our builds and discuss them here?

>>108046117
Thanks mate. will do.

>>108046133
No because not everyone defecates $$$ to have "expendable income" and throw money at whatever current slop that will effectively and indirectly increase prices of everything, not to mention about the AI bubble

>>108045996
It's all templeOS
>>108046032
>https://wccftech.com/user-scammed-with-fake-samsung-990-pro-ssd-that-runs-like-usb-2-0-sticks/
Uh oh, another good reason to avoid scamsung

Let's see those mommies holding pcs, women in tech!

>>108046128
I'm not a fan of the x3d package. Do you worry about failure?

>>108046180
>not everyone defecates $$$
whiny poorfag contributes no meaningful content.

Just >>108046128

>>108046278
>worry
No. If it dies, I will come here and bitch about it while I wait for my replacement parts and RMA goods.

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005007573235248.html

>32GB DDR4 for $300

what's the catch?

>>108046304
rma is communism. I hope trump puts you in prison.

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>buy SSD from B&H
>also buy a motherboard
>motherboard ships the next day, SSD does not
>check the tracking, they both left a warehouse at the same time but the SSD never left the truck
>winter storm happens, it's been 8 days without an update at all
>get in touch with customer support solely asking them to reach out to the carrier and ensure shipment since there hasn't been any tracking done on the package in over a week
>they "open a shipping claim" but simultaneously OPEN A REFUND
>this SSD has gone up in price THREE HUNDRED FUCKING DOLLARS since my original purchase
>they refuse to cancel the refund, state that it's just there to catch the drive in case it gets returned to them as the product is just "delayed" and not lost
>ok but I want the drive??????? Just reship it if it ends up in your warehouse?????
>Best they can do is offer a guaranteed price match if the product comes back in stock (somehow)

I feel as if I'm talking in circles. There's no way out of this hell, is there? I HATE FEDEX

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>>108046278
Listen man. I've had AMD CPUs since the Athlon dual and Phenom 2 quad. These things never die. If you're replacing them it's because its too slow or it lacks newer instruction sets. Even Bulldozer wont die on you, the motherboard will die first.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8zTzpYjQ2MM

>>108046305
The catch is that it was $150 3 months ago.

>>108046335
I want mine to last 100 years tho. That's why I'm basically am4, but idk maybe threadripper is good, maybe I'll get something used.

>>108046333
>I HATE FEDEX
kek, FedEx shipped the external I bought a couple weeks ago and it was delayed too. But know how the prices on all drives were, I didn't dare contact them and decided to be patient. Especially because Corsair tried to quickly canceled orders and then raise the price. They were obviously caught and just went "oh it was an accident and they weren't meant to be that price ;)", but they eventually gave discounts to those people to get the same prices or something like that. I wasn't buying from them but still.
Let this be a lesson learned when shit like this happens. When prices are rocky, never try to contact about what was ordered, just be patient. I wouldn't doubt they purposely try to get things delayed in hoping people contact support and supports goes "oopsie we issued a refund ;) no refunds on the refunds btw ;^)". Also know FedEx gets a bad reputation for a reason.

>>108046382
the only solace I have is that they're at least allowing me to price match if it's in stock. But it's not on pre-order or special order, just notification. So I have to fucking contact them first. Will likely be scalped before I can do shit.

Likely it'll be shipped by the end of the week but fuck this shit.

>>108044594
AMD cards function on Linux with like a 10-15% hit to performance.
NVidia cards function on Linux with like a 30-75% hit to performance.

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>>108046208
eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeerm works for me

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Nobody cares what graphics card you have. Just buy it, use it and enjoy it.

>>108046418
why is there no transfer mode listed? Should be pcie gen 4 x 4

also you should probably avoid posting your serial numbers.

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>>108046423
>Just buy it, use it and enjoy it.
That but without the glowie.

>>108046379
A CPU is either dead the day you put it in or it lasts forever.

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>>108046430
eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeerm

A high-end pretty bling bling system would not benefit me at all, but, why do I want it still?

>>108046423
You need underglow.

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Corsair RM1000x PSU is on Amazon flash sale for $140.

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>Rtx 3080 12gb that only has a waterblock, no air cooler. The hdmi port does not work, but can be fixed by someone who knows how to micro solder. It still has 4 display ports.
>The card also has some minor stability issues which in my experience does not lead to crashing, only minor annoyances like incorrect resolution on boot-up which can be solved by re-inserting display cable.
>Will sell with hdmi to dp adaptor in case your display only has hdmi inputs.
>$400, OBO
thoughts? $400 Canadian shekels

AAAAH IM GONNA ROG (STRIX) OUT

IM ASUUUUUUUUUSING

>>108046545
It's a half-busted 3080 Ventus.

>>108046545
>$400 on a soon to be sold as-is card

>>108046545
worth maybe 250. That shit needs a full RMA

>>108046545
>thoughts
Don't.

>>108046180
So you're mad because I built a PC and tried to discuss my build in the pc building general because prices are expensive right now which is outside of my control? I'm one guy. I build a new PC every 6-8 years, I'm not the one making parts expensive.

>>108046539
I keep seeing that thing go on sale. Are Corsair PSUs any good? I still need one.

>>108046647
https://www.cybenetics.com/evaluations/psus/2396/
https://hwbusters.com/psus/corsair-rm1000x-atx-v3-1-psu-review/11/

>>108044961
Why is the 5070 that popular? Steve from Hardware Unboxed, Steve from Gamer’s Nexus, Jay, and Sebastian from Linus have all said that the card was crap and was a waste of sand, so what gives?

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>>108046666
Maybe don't listen to retards?

>>108046666
>Why is the 5070 that popular
Price point.

Kids falling for bigger number better on models handicapped by 8GB/12GB vram

>>108046666
It's the best GPU for 99% of people

>>108046666
see>>108046046
Also all it needed to be the GOAT was 256bit/16GB or 192bit with 18 or 24GB, but Jensen decided to cuck us and the sales has shown that gamers want to be cucked just like the game market.

Show me your most favorite/most visually interesting PC chassis.

>>108046666
The faggot reviewers focused on attacking everything else but the hardware itself which is okay, saying "fuck NVIDIA you should just buy the 4070 Super/Ti instead" but those cards were no longer available new or for affordable prices either. They reviewed these cards purely on ragebait and scalped pricing at launch. The 5070 Ti for example is an actually good card today at MSRP, and could be bought for that price for several months until recently, but the reviews didn't update to reflect that.

What's a good price for a used 3060 12GB?

>>108046654
>have that hwbusters site up
>look back at it
>best 1000w psus
>the corsair isn't on the list
>look at some of the reviews
>all but one have more cons and not recommended
>only other one with the same amount of pros and cons was a super flower psu
Weird. Maybe those were all just PSUs released this year though. Now to decide if I wanna save $20 by buying the Corsair PSU or spend the extra $20 by buying the Super Flower one.
And for whatever reason, the Super Flower logo reminds me of NERV.

>>108046545
This is like buying someone's riced up Honda or Subaru. Basically don't unless you got that much disposable income and/or you don't mind having to fix issues like with the soldering.

>>108045526
>feet
yes

We survived the crypto boom only to get raped harder now

>>108046768
>the corsair isn't on the list
He's guaranteed to be paid for shilling certain models, you have to search them yourself.
I'm considering the Super Flower VII XP PRO 1200W because supposedly it's good and it's still on the $200 range while Corsair HX1200i starts at $300 (RM1200x Shift is $200 but it lacks things like fan control and is rated lower on effeciency). Corsair is overpriced but they have some of the best quality IMO so I don't have to worry about that, and some of the best fans altogether, and stuff like fan failure protection that none of the others do. If you only need 1000W I'd go with that Corsair RM1000x at that price, it's very hard to beat. The other brand I can recommend is Seasonic but they are even more overpriced than Corsair.

>>108046666
CUZ WE ARE GETTING RAPED BY AI CENTERS BUYING EVERYTHING SO BETTER GET FUCKED BY THIS SMALL DILDO INSTEAD OF THE MEATIER, SPIKED ONE THE NEXT ONE

>>108046842
I'm sorry but you are not "getting raped" because of RAM price increases.

Oh boo hoo something that cost $100 last year now costs $500.

Do you know what getting fucked up the ass is? When you need a $30,000 deposit on a home.

Enjoy finding $30,000 any time soon.

>>108046718
>gamers want to be cucked just like the game market
not really, many waitfags were hoping for the supers

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>>108046645
But people like you are driving the prices up for the sake of "consooming"
Let me tell you something... if you are so empty inside that you need to fill it with material copes why don't chuds like you gang yourselves and overthrow this feminist system that wants you to stay like this, virgin, without kissing a foid because foids are the gatekeeper of their pussies in this foid-jewish centric world?

But no, you are all fags sucking Jensen's tits for fake overpriced shit that will give you a false sense of accomplishment in your sorry lives

>>108046827
I'm pretty sure even 850w is overkill, but at that current price it's cheaper than their 850w. Or close because apparently there's a random $14 coupon for the 850w. But at that point might as well get the extra wattage just in case.
I might just go with it. Just hope Corsair doesn't randomly go under. Thanks for the info.

>>108046666
Most people that buy GPUs buy them to use them. And not to run a billion weird stat-checking and comparative simulations and scenarios that are irrelevant to 99% of consumers

>>108046666
This is bait but to the clueless anons wandering in, the 5060 is currently being scalped and the 5070 is significantly more powerful. The 4gb of extra vram means nothing to 99% of consumers. At current prices I can only recommend it if you want to dip your toes into slop generation and want something faster than a 3090.

>>108046666
because cattle will be forever cattle
its the new 1060 (3gb version of course)

>>108046878
then explain >>108044961

>opt out
>receive shekels
>shitpost on /g/
you niggers are dumb as brick, no wonder this retard is in control of the threads narrative

>>108047043
well it's very easy there's no supers and instead we got supply issues and price hikes so waitfags bought because their hair are turning gray

>>108046666
>Hm, I think I shall upgrade my computer.
>Do I want a GPU that I have disable half the modern settings to play at a good FPS?
>Or do I want a GPU that will just run everything?
>I think I shall opt for the GPU that will run everything.

https://www.abacashi.com/vaquinha/me-ajude-a-montar-a-melhor-workstation-para-edicao-de-videos-do-brasil

>>108045060
What a terrible lack of foresight. What if the prices rise 50% more the next month? Will you come to /pcbg/ and make amend for today's brooding? Of course not. Will you reflect on everyone's times and yours that you wasted then? Neither . Admit that you're nothing special, a feather on the waves of rising and crashing hardware price. You don't have control. But it's okay because no one has and that's who you are: no one.You can not optimize this decision, you have no reason to languish over what you have no control, apart for being a fool.

Now will you continue to be a fool or take some time to reflect and admit your deal wasn't better than some; but also better than some of us got here and you having the audacity to complain is extremely goofy to them?

>>108045060
>>108047459
If you can buy the hardware tou want today them buy it. If you can't buy the hardware then you should probably consider not buying any hardware even if the price goes back down to msrp.

If you could afford the hardware before the price increases and you can't afford it now that says something about your ability to spend any amount of money on the tech to begin with.

This shit is expensive for a reason. Most people are willing to buy these cards because they have the ability to make that money back just using the hardware they buy. You have to remember who exactly your competing with in the "consumer" space when buying a top end gpu. Even a 16gb 5060 ti is marketed as professional hardware now.

>>108045248
>Hey PC Builder I really want an AMD card but I've heard that sometimes it works well but sometimes the new driver is fucked up and nothing works at all.
>Oh. What about a traffic light ARGB scheme then?
Kek. Why did you think it was a good idea? He was taking the piss of you. You should have told him to fuck off mate.

>>108045776
Are you okay nigga? Top 3 GPU of the very last Steam survey are XX60 cards. There's more 3060 in the wilds than 5060 and this one comes with even more fakeframes at better quality so it will survive the test of time even better. Devs know it's going to be a stalemate until 2028. NOTHING will be "obsolete" by this year. You'd really have to corner yourself in a specific way of mind to argue so.

>>108047914
Honestly I wish they would keep things a stalemate until technology actually improves in a meaningful way.
Devs are just getting so lazy with optimization and shit, and abusing hardware as an excuse not to. And the games don't even look good enough to justify the hardware spike. Games in 2015 like TW3 looked 100x better than half the slop today.

There's no reason devs can't make shit that good looking with more modern hardware. Or just revert to using lower hardware requirements if its going to look like shit anyways.

I miss the days when hardware increases were actually big. PS1 to PS2. PS2 to PS3. Slowed down with PS3 to PS4. And after that it just kind of stopped looking better but the hardware and price kept rising.

>>108045717

Save the profile maybe? It takes one sec to reapply it.

Where does /pcbg/ buy used parts from? Ebay is nothing but accounts with no reviews.

>>108047990
That's exactly why all these anons agreeing something like a 5070 Ti would be irrelevant by this year is a turbomongoloid take. It's not true and if it was for what game? Star Wars Outlaws? Wukong? Who fucking cares.

/pcbg/ get real.

Is 12GB of VRAM the new 4C/4T or 4C/8T of GPUs? I hate the feeling of being reduced to a VRAMlet when I had 16GB and 124GB literally within my grasp ages ago.

>>108045892
very interesting

Why is the idle wattage on AIB 5070's higher than on the reference model but somehow lower under peak load?

>>108048215
16gb is the new 4c/8t.

How's the RTX 5050 for gaming?

>>108048249
48gb/96gb = just buy a server room already
24gb/32gb = point of diminishing returns
16gb/20gb = optimal amount of vram capacity
10gb/12gb = barely enough vram, will be obsolete within a year or two
8gb/6gb = king of vramlets
4gb/3gb/2gb = consider suicide tier

>>108048278
1080 Ti kind of with less VRAM if you're thinking about raster
in Blender cycles open data it performs around the same or slightly slower than a 3060 Ti

>>108045263
CH160 Plus or Jonsbo C6 Max or Jonsbo Z20

I'm eyeing that last one but its hard to find in brazil

5070 ti is going to be bottlenecked really hard with 12400 right? And the only option is ditch cpu AND motherboard for amd since 13 14 series cpus are literally broken ootb. I hate intel.

>>108048299
Thanks, that's more than good enough for me.

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>>108048286
>2028 q4
>6080 launches
>16gb vram

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>>108045149

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>>108048371
>40% of 6090

>>108048516
1080ti is missing ;_;

>>108048540
the 1080ti is also a pos. can't even do dlss or raytracing. also no support so you might as well buy an amd gpu.

>>108048540
1080ti was the flagship. Titan Xp was a halo product, perhaps less so than 5090 kek.

>>108048569
i think of the 5090 as an upsold 5080ti

>>108048516
I hate how everyone forgot that the 5070 is effectively a xx50/xx60 card

>>108048569
The Titan was always a stupid retarded upsell intended to drive up prices starting with Kepler
GK104 "680" lmao
If AMD didn't jump the gun they would have never thought they could get away with that

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>>108048516
thats just ragebait the reason the cudacore space got lower its because it got replaced for dedicated tensor core and dedicated rt cores, same goes with die size they are just look at the overall dimensions rather than space x density which overall has remain equal as litography advances

>>108048679
>the reason the cudacore space got lower its because it got replaced for dedicated tensor core and dedicated rt cores
the graph compares within the same generation so the ratio of cuda to tensor to rt units are constant per generation
>same goes with die size they are just look at the overall dimensions
that's the problem, all dies below the halo one keeps getting smaller

>>108048689
It's pure ragebait, because they dont realize that overall dimension is a useless metric compared to Transistor density (MTr/mm2) and SRAM bit-cell size (μm2), modern litography is not about building faster chips on biggger dies but stacking transistors on top of each other to archive faster compute on a smaller die area, you are still paying for 5070s level of density/top tier transistor on your chips just a lot more power efficient and enjoying lower latency as smaller area means more eficiency

>>108048701
>getting less relative performance to the flagship is actually a good thing

>>108048713
Anon the 5090 already has a 600W power limit with transient spikes to1200, requiring a custom connector, anything more powerful with bigger dies just catches fire, just ask AMD why they have nothing above the 9070 XT

>>108046112
Do any GPUs even make noise with idle fan speeds?

>>108048679
>>108048516
Then perhaps we could compare transistor count relative to the flagship

5070 for instance has 31 billion to the 5090's 92 billion or 33.6956522%

3070 had 17.4 billion to the 3090 ti's 28.3 billion or 61.4840989%

>>108048743
I'm talking about the relative weakness of the non-flagship 50 series. 5080 would be called 5070 if compared to 30 series or prior by the core count. 5070 compares well to a 950 ($159 in 2015), and GM200 was 600mm^2 too, not a small chip.

Reminder that the xx80 Ti, Titan monikers only exist as upsells to segment and dilute the product lineup, the flagship used to always be the xx80 while xx90 was for dual-GPU boards

>>108048775
They can of you increase the voltage high enough, but thays not the kind of noise I think you're talking about. They also make a different smell when you overvolt them, and not the kind of smell that comes from one of those yeston waifu cards I hear you're so fond of either.

if we were to use the old naming scheme here's how it would look for ampere ignoring the duplicate cut down variants and assuming they released the full chips right away instead of leaving them as refreshes

RTX 3090 Ti = GTX 1280
RTX 3080 Ti = GTX 1270
RTX 3070 Ti = GTX 1260
RTX 3060 Ti = GTS 1250
RTX 3060 = GTS 1240
RTX 3050 = GT 1230

https://videocardz.com/newz/five-ryzen-9000-cpus-reportedly-died-on-asrock-boards-in-a-single-day

AYYMDEAD DEFECTIVE BY DESIGN CPUS & GPUS

>>108048836
Manufacturing issue. The solder balls between the cpu socket and motherboard are cracking which leads to increased resistance.

What's the best GPU I can go for if my goal is a strong GPU without going full retard on the price? 5070?

Is $180 for a new 5700X worth it if you're on a 3700X

>>108048872
If you must buy now I would get the 5070 while it is at MSRP (if it is still at 550 that is) if you can given the 5060 ti is barely cheaper wherever I look, unless you absolutely need the extra VRAM for prompting anime boobies in stable diffusion
I'd suggest the zotac solid or the anus dual out of msrp models

>>108048874
sounds expensive. how much is a tray/oem version from a questionable source?

>>108048904
...that is the price for a tray/oem version here from retails

>>108048804
>>108048799
Anon those metrics are useless i already explained to you how litgrophy works, you use both Transistor density (MTr/mm2) and SRAM bit-cell size (μm2), in terms of density the metrics are around the same as previous generation, is just rage bait withotu degrees saying dumb shit

>>108046666
I max everything out at 1440p DLSSQ with the 5070.
However, I do not play games past 2024 anymore, just no point.
Also paid ~490 euro for it.

>>108046077
Pretty sure those are integrated gpus and x3d cpus

>>108048906
it's $170 here when ordering online and $183 from retail
I guess $180 is ok after all.

>>108048880
>while it is at MSRP
is this expected to change soon?

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>>108048974
yep

sybau

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Ugh... Hi!
T-this is my first post on /g/, I need a QHD monitor. I was always a poor fag using cheap full HD monitors, but now I actually can afford something good, altho I have no idea what "good" means in terms of monitors...
All I know is that the image gets better with resolution, there is IPS, there is OLED, and there is refresh rate (Hz).
OLED looks good, but requires some schizo rituals to make sure it doesn't die in 1 year after purchase.
IPS looks like shit, but you can just plug it in and forget about it for the next few years.
Budget is 650-1k USD.

Best computer for a professional underwear salesman (japan av club, no underage!)

>>108046447
no

>>108049115
either get a cheapo 180Hz IPS for $150 or a fancy expensive oled. The middle ground is a waste of time.

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>>108041589
>>108040284
went ahead and did it, so far on just desktop and web browsing no difference in temps from what i see. fans are currently oriented like the figure in the middle from when it was still horizontal; which of the three do u recommend though now that it's upright

>>108045996
IOT devices. Though to be honest if it were the case i'd think it would be much higher.

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>>108046418
Someone around me is selling these for $180 on craiglist.
I have half a mind to offer $300 for two despite having zero need for more storage atm.
Were these the ones with the dodgy firmware that would go read only?

>>108049352
Why would you enrich the thieving races?

>>108049363
I need at least one to image some drives on some devices I intend to fuck around with. it's a bit of a drive, but two 2tb's for 150 each isn't bad if I can convince the guy and it would be somewhat worth my time to drive out there.

>>108049373
Typical boomer/zoomer who doesn't care about his own flesh and blood. *spit*

>>108049383
what are you on about, retard? Did the pcbg spammer return?

>>108048872
Anyone giving you advice on this premise is retarded because your question is retarded. State your use cases, cpu, resolution and refresh rate limit if you want an accurate answer.

>>108046666
It is a perfect product for its price point and was actually available at MSRP for its whole lifespan. Nobody paid $500 for a 5070 and felt they got ripped off. Even people that seethed about muh 12GB VRAM found out its totally fine in all games and is way faster than a 5060TI 16GB. AMD like retards tried to attack the 5070TI when the 5070 was the real competition. 9070 XT should have been $500. But they got greedy and sold it for like $800 for most of last year. Turned out they didn't care about market share after all just amount generated per sale.

>>108048996
NTA, but everything is going to rise in price (more than it already has). You have been warned.

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>>108044928
5090 astral + rm1000i anon here who switched to a seasonic atx3.1 focus gx 1000w psu for current balance reasons.
I just put the new psu in and the current balance is pretty close to perfect. Its a night and day difference between the old atx2.4 corsair psu which often had two or more cables pulling 6A or less while the highest would be doing 9.5A at only 600W. Can recommend sticking to atx3.1 for your 400W+ gpus

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>>108046766
I paid $170 in 2023 for one fully boxed but things are retarded now so it might be even more today

yeah it looks more retarded now

>>108048331
>13 14 series cpus are literally broken ootb.
fake news they are fine now

>>108048810
3090 was the 1st XX90 and was clearly the flagship gaming GPU.

And stop being retarded the 1080TI was the clear flagship, shitloads of people even sold their 1080s to get a 1080TI the second it launched.

>>108049302
>Picture 1
6 intakes, 1 exhaust. Lot of positive pressure so the air is kind of trapped here giving it plenty of time to rise in temperatures.

>Picture 2
Right Middle fan being an exhaust sucks half the fresh air from at least Bottom Right and Right Bottom before they even reach the CPU cooler and have a chance to do their job.

>Picture 3
Perfect. Let us know how many of the intake fans are reversed because a reverse fan is always lower CFM and Pressure than a regular fan, so it should help to mitigate the 4:1 intake to exhaust ratio and achieve a slightly positive pressure.

>>108049481
Isn't Nvidia restarting 3060 production because Samsung has some 8nm fab to spare?

>>108048836
>Five Ryzen 9000 CPUs reportedly died on ASRock boards in a single day

Dead CPU/Mobo is my biggest fear of building. Every other part I likely got spares off or can use other shit. A dead CPU basically fucks you unless you just so happen to have another CPU for that exact board.

>>108049352
$300 for two they'll probably accept
>Zero need for storage
yeah that's what we all say

>>108049302
>>108049506
Also keep in mind this is theory and in your case (jej) you might end up with Picture 2 being better than Picture 3. Anyway glad your GPU could take the upward position. Forgot to ask you which model your case is? For personal interest.

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>>108049535
>in your case (jej)
kek thx. it's the ch260 from deepcool. they sell the ch270 which is the exact same case but upright and with a dedicated stand, here i just unscrewed the rubber feet and slapped it on the front where the intake fans are. none of the fans i have here are reverse though

This collusion in the monitor market is insane. MSI had deals all last month knocking off hundreds of dollars of their QD-OLED displays. That stopped end of January and the prices are back up. NOW LG have several monitors and TV on discount knocking off hundreds of dollars. I bet it'll be Samsung's turn next month. Or Asus. Or Gigabyte. This is some fucked up obvious collusion and agreements between them. I'M NOOTICING THINGS AND IT'S DRVING ME INSANE.

https://www.softbank.jp/en/corp/news/press/sbkk/2026/20260203_01/

INTEL SAVING EVERYONE FROM THE WORST COREA MEMORY CARTEL

>>108049598
>trusting intel
They were the ones selling $999 hexa-core for like a decade while AMD were adding moar cores to their bulldozers.
If anything they'd join the cartel for a piece of that pie.

>>108049619
their hexa cores were only $500 for the longest time and they even released the $400 5820k for nooticers

>>108049619
STFU faggot, AYYMDEAD is stagnant POODNA 3.5 until 2029 and 8 cores garbage for years now while Intel is outinnovating and delivering 52 cores Nova Lake next year CES

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Just wow.

>Samsung, SK Hynix, and Micron team up to block memory hoarding — prices might rise faster, but it could help encourage increased supply long term

https://www.tomshardware.com/tech-industry/artificial-intelligence/samsung-sk-hynix-and-micron-team-up-to-block-memory-hoarding-prices-might-rise-faster-but-it-could-help-encourage-increased-supply-long-term

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-pi4jySS10
didnt this grifter used to work for ayymd

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>>108049636
Do you not see the sarcasm, I wasn't praising AMD for adding moar cores to their slow as shit bulldozers.

>>108049673
why don't they just produce more ram ._.

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>>108049673
>mfw sam altman can't get the cash for his order and crashes the market

>>108049689
they busy overclocking profit margins per kit

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>>108049506
aight set it to picture 3 and idle temps seem to have dropped by 1deg on both cpu and gpu, very nice. think i'll keep it this way, much easier to access the i/o since it's underneath my desk

>>108049499
>1080TI was the clear flagship, shitloads of people even sold their 1080s to get a 1080TI the second it launched.
Of they launched it after the 1080 then by definition it wasn't a flagship. It was a refresh... halo product even... just like the titan and titanxp

>>108049895
believe it or not, nvidia used to provide such good gains in the day that their next-gen 2nd largest chip outperformed the current-gen largest chip by 10-30% and cost half as much so they naturally kept the largest next-gen chip for a mid-gen upgrade 9 months after next-gen cards launched
the titan XP launched alongisde the 1080 but nobody bought that

>>108049115
I would go 4k and upsample it. That requires you to have dlss (rtx 2000 series or later) or fsr4 (rx 9000 series ) for good quality.

You probably want flicker free because you value yourself. Also you probably want an environment light sensor for image clarity and easy visibility.

Personally that made me consider benq mobiuz EX2710U for 27 inch or EX3210U for 32 inch diagonal. If you want to go full schizo brightness 1000+ nits with local dimming then I recommend EX321UX.

Is PTM 7950 cost-effective for Ryzen CPUs over just depleting my 45g tube of MX-4 that I bought for the same price once in a year or a few?

>>108049951
They also launched new cards all the goddamned time rather than once every three years.

https://www.phoronix.com/review/intel-core-ultra-x7-358h-linux

INTEL WON

>>108050293
The year of the Linux desktop is here!

Well boy it is written.

>Order a "restocking" PNY 5060 Ti Overclocked 16Gb Dual Fan at MSRP.
>Restock date and status switch to "Unavailble" so I cancel the order.
>On the look-out for two weeks.
>Order an "in stock" Asus Dual 5060 Ti OC 16Gb for MSRP.
>Call the online retailer after 48h of no shipment.
>It's not in stock so we cancel the order.

It is not meant to be. I'm at peace with it. It was a FOMO move to secure 16Gb VRAM since I already have a 4060 so it's not all grim and dark. I'll be on the look out for an used 4060 Ti 16Gb instead since it's closer to my actual need, budget and worries.

>>108049689
Cool it with the antisemitism

>>108050316
you woulda had better luck just visiting stores near you

>>108050032
PTM7950 is not cost effective, you use it because its the best and its way more of a pain in the ass to repaste a GPU
also you don't need to replace paste nearly that often

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>>108050293
>Welcome back to The Screensavers on TechTV and we have another question of the day from a viewer and it reads...

RADEON VS GEFORCE!

>>108044928
>buy rtx card
>get great score on cinemark

>>108050316
Can’t you just buy one from newegg?

How long does anon usually stick with a specific chipset? I need a new CPU, which means a new motherboard, but I need some reliability.

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>>108044474
>When you say de-pin what do you mean?
remove the wire of your donor cables and insert them in a donor 8 pin plug
soldering is botch, all you need to do is push the retainer wings inside with something round of the proper diameter.

>>108050516
buy a used 13th gen intel system. they are the peak of reliability.

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new hardware unboxed
>tags: wardrobe_malfunction, torn_clothes

>>108050539
lol xd

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is acer in the epstein files?

>>108050637
the altman files, you mean

>>108050316
5070 is a way better card anyway

>>108050696
He wants 16gb vram, 5070ti isnt the biggest leap in price imo

got myself a 5 pack of arctic pro
the pwm hum is the worst on any fan i own, thanks again for the retarded buying advice
>just as good as premium fans

>>108050696
I will seek to confirm that if and when my 5070 arrives as far as how worth it it was to upgrade from a 3060 Ti after 4 years seeing as I got cucked out a 4080, 4070 Ti Super, and 5070 Ti purchase 1-2-3 and settled for this vramlet POS

>>108050741
At this point I don't even feel like plugging in my P14 Pro and just going straight to reselling it for the same price as I bought it based on what I hear in this thread

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I am financially irresponsible

>>108050741
I bought the arctic 5 pack coincidentally, not based on anon’s advice, and I’m not bothered by the sound despite an additional five 120mm fans, two of which came with the case, along with the cpu and gpu fans. Hm.

>>108050768
Would you rather have and not need, or need and not have?

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>>108050768
>ROG Strix
How. Much?

>>108045892
>>108050536
How do I pull the wire out without detaching it from the pin/breaking it?

And what do you mean soldering is "botch"? Like its easy to botch? it's more complicated than it needs to be? It can't carry current for some reason? etc.


on an unrelated note, I'm getting real damn tired of selecting the picture with exactly 2 stars with 5 points. The other challenges are fine. I hate the stars for some reason.

>>108050741
>arctic pro
the normal p14s are good enough.

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>>108050772
after playing a bit with a tone generator i can say without doubt that its the PWM signal amplified by the motor.
>How do I pull the wire out without detaching it from the pin/breaking it?
you have to compress the retainer clips, this is done with a pipe like tool or smal scewdrivers.

>>108050862
Pro's supposedly rectify the reported motor noise issues with the original fans...

>>108050877
well the normal ones are not pwm, so they cant suffer from this problem

What's the best M.2 to SATA adapter? I need to build my parents a proper desktop computer but I have over four 2.5" hard drives, but no SATA drives to spare. I got a 256GB SX8200 Pro to spare though.

>>108050741
they are still shit after so many years? I replaced mine with the cheapest thermalright and had 0 regrets

>>108050884
Can't you just run the 4-pin version in DC mode and avoid this problem too?

>>108050910
you see the noise is only noticable in low speeds, above 900 the wind noise picks up.
and by reducing the voltage you cant reach super low speeds

Thoughts on the Pure Wings 2 and 3 fans in the current year? Is buying be quiet! fans used a bad idea?

>>108050939
Can't comment on buying used since who knows what you'll get but my build is all be quiet and they live up to their name

>>108050779
have and not need

when people want things its for a reason, generally harmless, not to use the same argument but i'm not harming anybody by wanting a graphics card.

>>108050939
imo among the best 92mm you can buy. bigger sizes have strong competition. nf-p12 redux perform much better for a slightly higher price
>used
i would not pay more than 2$ per fan. worse case its a smoker unit or he killed the bearing

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why shouldn't i get one of those? it's only 165€.

do people really need more than 120hz?

>>108051045
I'm a sick fuck I would, but PCIE 2.0x8 will fuck you

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what is meant to be the upgrade here? what am I missing? reflections look like they got worse

>>108051045
vrm?

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>>108051050
do people really need more than 1hz?

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Lmao looks like a PSU tied to a AIO

>>108051070
Oh man I can’t wait to stare at my (almost) perfect spot of light!

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>>108051070
there might be something wrong with your eyes anon

Am I missing something?
is the 9600x just really fucking efficient?

>>108051105
its about as efficient as any zen 5 chip, just depends on how much juice you give it

>>108051070
lights looks more correct instead of astigmatism

I just want some nice fans that are basically silent and don't cost $100 for 5 of them.