>>108078321
Tranny disinfo OP

Ignore anything about AM5 (except ASrock) and about NVIDIA prices unless you want regret like OP

Ignore above. Shill trying to convince people paying over 1000 USD after tax for a midrange 5070 ti is a good idea

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Found a 9800x3d for 200$
Odds of this being a scam?

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>>108078604
Says "like new". But it looks scuffed up.

>>108078632
It's just thermal paste. The dude doesn't have rubbing alcohol to clean it up ut seems.

>>108078632
wouldnt risk it
like the dude has 500$ cpu but he doesnt clean the thermal paste with alcohol properly before taking a picture, theres something wrong with him
obviously they're not upgrading it to something better, so why sell it. Drug money?

>>108078632
That’s not scuffed that’s thermal paste and it’s a scam. Counterfeit CPUs are really a common thing. You must be young. If it is too good to be true then it is ALWAYS a scam. There will be absolutely nothing beneath that IHS except a few blips of epoxy to hold it on.

>>108078583
Stop thinking you're some arbiter of truth you insufferable unemployed Canadian nicojeet

>>108078669
>You must be young
Just new to buying PC parts.

>>108078677
>Just new to buying PC parts

Doesn’t matter. Nobody sells a hot commodity for that cheap unless it’s a scam. That is universal.

alright 9070xt schizo. which 9070xt model should should i pick? i got a meshify c and two 8 pin connectors on my psu. max lenght is 315mm and without the front fan it's 335mm. is the pulse good? is the hellhound good? what about the quicksilver? ideally i would also like a version that i can deshroud to make it even quieter.

>>108078604
>>108078632
>>108078669
I should have just looked closer for myself.
It's a Ryzen 7 for sale. But the plastic casing in the picture is for a Ryzen 9.

>>108078673
why is he wrong

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Okay, found a more real deal.
Open box, but around 100 cheaper than retail.

>>108078665
>dude
read the context clues

>>108078728
That would make sense if they just upgraded

>>108078774
do note the tray cpus may not have the traditional amd warranty a boxed cpu has, but the failure rates are sub 1% so it usually doesnt matter

>>108078774
looks real to me
if the peace of mind of having a warranty and the certainty that some retard didn't try to xoc with it or run the thing without thermal paste run it on dog shit asrock day 0 bios o algo isn't worth the extra $100 it may be worth.

used cpus have GENERALLY been fine historically but idk it feels like ryzens are a bit more frail and susceptible to abuse.

>>108078790
At worst I go steal a box from best buy.

good morning fellow amd brahmins

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>the only thing keeping people on Windows is the shit driver support from companies like NVidia

how hard is it to get a ASUS B850M-AYW Gaming OC WIFI7 W ?

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>>108078693
If you want to keep your front fan you'll need to go with the asus prime. Power Color Reaper would have even more clearance but from what I remember from reviews it has the worst temps of any model and is noisy being only a dual slot card.

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Okay, I bought the stupid AMD CPU, happy?

Now tell me what good motherboard goes with this.

>>108078907
>Now tell me what good motherboard goes with this.
kneepads

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>>108078904
i would be more than fine with that. picrel is a 5070ti tuf (329mm). i just want a good one that is under 335mm and doesn't need the new connector or 3 x 8pin.

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>>108078925
Not seeing anything.

>>108078942
They are used for something else anon....

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>>108078937
I did look and you could also fit an asrock steel legend without losing the fan. Probably just get whatever is cheapest. All 9070 XTs use ptm7950 for the core so those temps will be reasonable on all of them. The real difference is in noise and the vram temperature. I have the prime oc and overclocked at 350 watts in my lancool 217 the memory sits anywhere from 88 to 92 degrees with gpu and cade fans at like 60 percent, it's a bit loud right next to me on my small desk but I don't hear it at all playing with headphones on. If you undervolt instead you can run things much quieter.

>Asus Prime 5070Ti
>MSI 5070Ti GAMING TRIO
>Gigabyte 5070Ti WINDFORCE SFF
>PNY 5070Ti ARGB Epic-x
>Zotac 5070Ti SOLID CORE
Do any of these words even mean anything?
Aren't they all the same card?

>>108078907
MSI MAG B850 TOMAHAWK MAX WiFi

>>108078975
amada kokoro's huge throbbing dripping futa cock......

>>108078995
that is exactly what i thought

>>108078976
Each brand has its unique naming scheme for "quality" brackets. Asus for example uses Prime for cheap model, Tuf for medium and ROG Strix for expensive model, even if they have the same GPU. Difference can be $200 or more for a bigger quieter cooler and more LGBT leds.

>>108079010
and if the model is white it might have cheap components but still cost 200 extra

>>108079010
>Asus Prime 5070Ti
I've read the Asus Tuf 5070 is literally exactly the same as the Aus Prime 5070, but has a slightly better fan.

>>108079010
ASUS is funny. Their naming scheme lets you know they're never giving it their all when it comes to a product.

I am tired of looking at computer components prices
the prices change literally every single day

>>108079018
>Global gaming-monitor shipments climbed sharply in 2024 as professional leagues standardized 240 Hz to 480 Hz refresh rates, prompting vendors to launch OLED panels with ultra-low latency[1]. Hardware once confined to enthusiasts now permeates content-creator studios and financial-trading floors, widening the addressable base for premium displays.

lmao stock trading floors full of oled monitors for the fast refresh rate to get the updates the fastest

>>108078830
Bullshit. Normies like Windows because it gives them access to software that just /works/ for them. None of the normies listen to techs - they look at me like I've sprouted three extra eyeballs when I tell them to use it. They have no idea about all of the gear in the background running their digital world on Linux, they just don't care as long as their slopfeed /works/.

Not one person I've built a system for in the past couple of years has asked for a Linux build until recently and it was an old geezer whose shitty thrift-store Dell got ruined in a flood. Linux has what, 4.x percent desktop market share and it's highly fragmented amongst various distros. Amongst my friends I think there is a lot of Ubuntu users, a couple of Mint, and I have Mint and Zorin installed - but I also have W10 and W11 on different machines and my shitposting station is a Windows box because I am trapped by my specific use case (muh money making productivity softwares do not work in Wine). And just I don't care. It's a machine. I'd use a Mac if needed (have Macs in my house too, we're a tech-oriented family).

Don't get me wrong, Windows is a clusterfuck, but it's actually pretty good as a desktop OS for the majority of humans. What Linux needs is some huge globohomo corp to adopt it, make it work seamlessly and securely for the normies, support some solid productivity apps with real development money, and promote the shit out of it.

>I should go check my levels now

>>108079029
>>108079034
At least so far their Prime cards have adequate cooling and low noise, unlike MSI Ventus.

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>>108079085
>Valve announces products that may popularize Linux and hurt Microsoft's hold on the market
>same week everything goes to shit and hardware prices skyrocket

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>>108079110

>be on sm4
>buy a new cooler and case
>for the same money a new cpu would cost
what is this strategy called

>>108079110
RAMaggeddon got them by the short hairs.

>>108079126
a future investment. bills friend is a big fan of this type of stuff >>108079114

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>the perfect gpu shroud design

>>108079156
why not just AIO the GPU so its 1 slot
CPU AIO on top
GPU AIO on front
cooling problem solved
gpu and cpu cooler problemsolved

>>108079171
>putting water inside of your pc
might as well skip the cpus ihs as well and direct die it with liquid metal

>bought a pre built 3070 PC for like $1,000 2 years ago
>noticed prices were going to start going up
>figured I'd just get new 64g DDR5 Ram and
>figured might as well get a new GPU while prices are low, got a 5070ti
Easy simple upgrade.

>realize my motherboard can't support DDR5
>realize my cpu is wildly out of date
>get a Ryzen 7 9800X3D
>get a MSI MAG B850 TOMAHAWK MAX
Good right?

>realize my current PC case doesn't fit the new mother board
>realize my 650W PSU won't power the the 5070ti I have
>buy a new be quiet! 800W PSU
Is that fucking it? Do I have everything? I basically just built a new PC from scratch when I just wanted to update my RAM.

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>>108079171
>adding more problems to fix a small inconvenience

>>108079200
Make sure to buy a fractal meshify 3 case
this way it has good airflow and your pc will produce less noise while getting higher fps
tomahawk mobo supports pcie 5 nvme so you could buy one of those for completeness sake

>>108079200
Is your monitor still good? Are you protected with a UPS?

>>108079205
>Take all you heat and directly dump it outside your case.
>600w components are child's play.
I hope they normalize 1000w gpu. My system wont care.

>>108079226
With all the aquarium cases I wonder why consoomer immersion cooling with inert fluid has not taken off.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Myq3JCfXLgI

>>108079183
>>108079205
pump failure, evaporarion, and gunk will kill ur water cooling long before it leaks somegow

>>108079245
Immersion cooling is not efficient. If you run an open loop, aquarium cases work just as good as any. I don't know why water cooling hasn't been more prevalent with today's crazy power draws.

>>108079265
air is just more reliable.

>>108079274
>110c hot spot is reliable

>>108079212
>Make sure to buy a fractal meshify 3 case
Fine. Those are cheap.

>pcie 5 nvme
If I can find a 2TB drive for like $150 I will.

>>108079285
unfortunately jews made ssd expensive so you may have to settle for slow pcie 4's

>>108079279
don't have a shintel cpu sorry.

>>108079225
It's some budget OLD.
I'll get a better one next Black Friday.

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>>108071311
>>108072599
I considered 32", but it might be way too big for my current tiny desk space
The OLED TV sounds like an interesting option for a second, media-oriented monitor, but it is going to take quite a long while before I can afford both the TV and more room
Well, I guess I will just grab the 27" AOC Q24G4F for now then, there's a sale that's ending soon
Thank you

>>108079289
Water cooling doesn't care what brand you have or your power draw. Have no hot spot temp in your 600w gpu? No problem for water, and all that at a whisper quiet operation.

>>108079319
not a fan of water cooling. i just build my pc's and use them. the only failure i ever had was case fan dying. not a fan of maintenance for loops. not a big fan of buying water blocks, cutting and connecting tubes and filling everything up. checking for leaks etc.

>>108079337
aio are great. An S tier aio will outperform the most expensive noctua.

>>108079367
they can still evaporate and can have their pumps die. most are also kinda garbo.

>>108079263
First gen Corsair AIOs are magic
Mine is still running after 11 years
A goddamn miracle

>>108079378
Maybe that's a problem at high altitude or something?

>>108079413
See >>108079412
I'm at high altitude
They just built shit better at the beginning
The saying "they don't build em like they used to"

Can't comment on modern AIOs because I don't wanna do it again bc of the vibration to case but at least it's still running knock on wood

5070 is now cheaper than the 5060ti on walmart for any burgerstanis that are interested

>>108079412
>First gen Corsair AIOs are magic
Let me guess, H100 or whatever it was? I remember seeing this one Corsair AIO on every old build for some reason.

>>108079427
My arctic freezer 2 is still going, I haven't babied it.

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>look up all the "budget" 9070xt's
>compare their weights
>swift is ~ 170g above all of them
i guess i am going to buy the swift then

Anyone know whether the Pure Base 501 Airflow or Lancool 207 are better at the same price or if the 501 is cheaper?

What do I need to know about cpu coolers?
I have a B850 TOMAHAWK MAX.
So how do I know what cpu coolers work with it?

I assume anything from be quiet! is a good choice.

>>108079442
I had one of those. Lasted me a decade, worked great, only cost $60 new.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UvHsK9wJ-Mc
amd gpus age like wine thanks to mesa drivers

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How do the fans that come with the silent loop 3 sound? Thinking about putting a 420mm aio on my 9950x3d but if the stock fans are ass then I need to buy more noctua g2s.(not terrible)

>>108079464
XFX killed in this gen, all the best cards on every price point is theirs, they made huge heatsinks on all of them
the mercury OC card heatsink is brutal
I got a steel legend by asrock because it was much cheaper than everything else and I'm poor but I would have gotten the swift if I could, the mercury OC doesn't fit my case sadly.

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8 heatpipes + vapor chamber + biggest card + 3 8-pin power connectors
pcbg would've shilled this card hard if it wasn't consumed with brandwarring and brandfagging all day

>>108079634
You can thank niconigger for that.

>>108079634
better cooler than MSI 5090 ventus kek

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>>108079634
>put the chip in the middle of the cooler
>double cooling perf since the heat spreads more evenly to fins

why not

>>108079668
Shorter PCB.

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>>108079617
yeah sapphire gambled on the goy connector for the nitro and did the bare minium for the pulse this time, right now i would rate
>xfx>powercolor>>sapphire
how are the assrocks btw, im still searching for one gpu and the price difference is hueg
is the challenger asus prime tier or better at least

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2026 will be the first year since GeForce began in 1999 that NVIDIA will not release a gaming graphics card.

Not a refresh not a revision, nothing.

Wow.

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>>108079617
xfx also killed it with the rx 480 gtr and got killed with the thicc

>>108079721
AMD gave up on the flagship, intel spent all their effort just to beat 5050 by 2%, so why bother.

>>108079712
taichi > steel legend > challenger iirc
it all depends on which memory chips you get, I got samsung memory chips and they run at like 15 celsius lower than hynix so the card never reaches 70c on core or memory, it's a good card, they added this anti-sag bracket so the card is very solid, like a brick
this guy on reddit has hynix chips, changed the thermal pads and talks about the card daily for the last 6 months
https://old.reddit.com/user/Adventurous-Bus8660

>>108079760
oh yes i know their tiers, i just wanted to know how good or how bad is the challenger compared to other base models
with a pulse or a swift youre more than ok but what about a challenger
oh yeah i read about the gook chips they are godtier, they almost make any card a tier above the hynx one

>>108079653
Stop bullying my ventus it was the only 5090 I could find

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>5090FE from BestBuy was supposed to be ready for pickup today
>just got an email that it's been delayed with no indication of when it'll be ready
I celebrated too soon, bros. It's not looking good.

>>108078321
>*Exercice caution with 12VHPWR on high end nvidia cards with high power draw.
>*5070 ti and 5060 ti 16gb production is paused. Don't buy at current insane prices.

Stop using this template made by that retard
RECOGNIZE his pattern

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>>108079721
Really fucking glad i bought 5070ti on new year.

I wonder how many rtx 5090's I should buy, after I win the lotto.

>>108079935
ive been enjoyin' my 5080 for a full year now
buychads won

>>108079974
I'd buy PRO 6000s.

>>108080018
Yep. All those idiots that waited.

so GDDR7 was one big meme? its barely faster than GDDR6 in games yet it uses more power and costs way more. reminds me of early DDR5 almost no gains over DDR4.

>>108080049
it's early into the development, second gen was supposedly faster and had more capacity on the chips but it all went to shit now
ideally you would always want to upgrade at the last gen of each cycle and you'll be getting the cream of the crop of efficiency and capacity

>>108080049
The biggest meme is GDDR4 and it's still unsurpassed on how pointless it was.

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>>108080049
it's like 30% more efficient and 60% faster but yeah basically gddr6 did nothing great post thanks

What are safe 5070ti temps?

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Is this a good deal?

>The AMD Radeon RX 9070 XT uses GDDR6 memory.

absolute state.

>>108080118
having a pc with those specs going into the ai winter is worth anything just buy don't even look at the price free your soul.

>>108080049
It's not a meme for enterprise AI shit. Blackwell rapes Ada massively despite being the same node.

For gaming a bit better but not much

>>108080118
>ASUS motherboard
Wouldn't risk it. Maybe you can resell it and get a better one.

gddr7 is 32gbps speed but it'll go all the way to 48gbps as it gets better
gddr6 is like 24gbps max overclocked, in game doesn't make an insane difference

>>108079711
Who cares,, you got tons of videogames to play, and most professional software works well with current tech
>B-but muh AI
Then get a 6000 Blackwell you dipshit

>>108080159
with ai memory speed is super important.

>>108080164
The race is on for Intel to offer a 5090 competitor. Apparently nvidia will just quit for 2 years so they can catch up. Rather kind of them.

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>5200CL40 at 1.1 volts
Given how low the voltage is, are these just trash sticks/chips that couldn't safely run any higher or is there a chance these could hit 6000CL30(ish) relatively easily? Samsung chips for what it's worth.

>>108080181
Forget about it. They need to fuck up in a spectacular way to lose to AMD or Intel, and they have way more capital. Bear in mind that NVIDIA procured the most memory chips out of the three before the AI boom and still they will postpone the 60 series launch. Intel got scraps compared to them

>>108080157
Is is ASUS that bad?

>>108080206
Rough past couple years and now there are recent reports of killing CPUs like Asrock. I can't gamble so I'd avoid it.

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>decide to check on that 3060
>$448
Damn, the vram inflation is NO joke. Can't wait for the 2060 to be priced as a 5070!

>>108080232
Arc is alright, what is your issue with it? Too cheap, cant feel superior buying overpriced trash?

>>108080257
B580 is only as fast as a 4060 which is dogshit performance in 2026

>>108079464
What case is this?

>>108080270
>Cheaper than a 4060
>Similar performance
>Higher VRAM capacity
I fail to see the issue

>>108080296
9060 xt / 5060 ti is the bare minimum for 1080p in 2026, anything else is cope, that simple.

>>108080309
those cards do 1440p 60

>Buying all of my parts via Amazon resale and eBay second hand

This things going to go up in smoke when I turn it on isn't it

Okay, /g/. I guy finished ordering everything for my first from-scratch PC build.

GPU - ASUS Prime 5070Ti OC 16BG - $750 (Best Buy)
CPU - Ryzen 7 9850X3D - 370$ (eBay)
RAM - Kingston FURY Beast 32GB (2x16GB) 6000MT/s DDR5 CL36 - $60 x 2 (Walmart)
SSD - Samsung SSD 9100 PRO 2TB - $150 (Amazon)
MoB - MSI MAG B850 Tomahawk MAX - $180 (eBay)
PSU - be quiet! Pure Power 13 M 850W - $90 (Amazon)
CPU fan - SK700 AM5 Air Cooler - $60 (Amazon)
Case - Fractal Design Meshify 3 Black Solid - 1$00 (Walmart)

Total - $1,820 USD

How'd I do? Good build? Did I get scammed? I fell a little ill after adding it all up.
If I didn't by that RAM and SSD 7 months ago I'm sure I wouldn't have gotten it at all.

Make me feel better about my choices.

>>108080309
Does the B580 work well with pre 2025 games? Because that's a lot of games you could be playing on 2k resolution even.
We are talking about giving the people who still use older cards the chance to upgrade for cheap or buy their first card altogether. There are lots of people gaming on integrated graphics on desktop prebuilts you know. Or people with 3050s. Or 1660s

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>>108080324
>ASUS Prime 5070Ti OC 16BG - $750 (Best Buy)
how'd you find that

>>108080351
By buying it about 50 days ago when it was on sale at my local Best Buy.
I actually posted about it in these threads and you guys told me to get it.

>>108080324
>5070Ti for 750
>32GB DDR5 for 120
Do you smell that? Smells like... bullshit
Post order or remain a lying faggot

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>>108080366
>Post order or remain a lying faggot
This what you want? Got it on Dec 30th of last year.

I checked out of Walmart as a guest, so I don't have the order history for the ram. But I got it many months ago. But could never use it. My MoBo didn't support DDR5.

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>>108080391

>>108080365
I think I remember you. Good buy.

it's finally time to upload my old 2017 rig (i7 6700k + gtx 1080ti). In what order should I replace the components? I don't have the money to buy everything upfront

>>108080409
Cpu and mobo for sure. 1080 ti is still good enough to hold out with till you can afford a new card later

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Is this a good deal?
112$ per 1TB?

>>108080409
gpu first then decide if doing anything else is even worth it
you'll be looking at a full platform upgrade so it's gonna be shitload anyway you slice it esp. if you can't buy it all right away

>>108080417
Oh wait, the seller has zero reviews.
It's 100% a scam.

>>108080409
>upload
Are you uploading it to where?

>>108080416
>>108080417
which one is it?

>>108080424
whooops, meant to say "update"; pardon me anon, I'm tired from work

>>108080436
The duality of the average PC builder.
>>108080443
It's fine, been there, done that, I understand how it is to be mentally exhausted, it was just a funny mistake.

>>108080206
Why risk it? Honestly, some people.

Like WHY???

Can someone remind me what good pricing on M.2 NVMe PCIe 5.0 Gen 5 SSDs were before all this madness? It was like 100$ per 1TB, right?

>>108080421
:^) it's not a scam. use your mom's credit card. it'is a pretty girl and you'll get married. it's a sign. everything happens for a reason. why do you doubt?

>>108080455
I literally hear horror stories from every brand. I've been using MSI last two builds and have been happy, but in about 5 seconds from now someone will chime in with a story about how their MSI MB raped their mom. It feel like just bad luck which hits at random.

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>>108080460

>>108080481
even i had no idea gen 5 ssd's were this fucked

>>108080417
there's a 20% chance he's legit and had received a box full of drives from amazon for free so he's offloading it for cheap

>>108080471
Did you get an asus mobo for free or something? Like why do you want asus? sell it and buy something else imo that's what I would do.

>>108080498
the odds are minimum 99.9%. Aren't you able to see when the Divine is steering the universe in your favor?

>>108080189
1.1v is JEDEC spec for all ddr5 ram
>5200cl40
chips that get sold at this speed were typically micron rev.a chips (maxes out at 5400cl38) but those got replaced by rev.d a while ago which does 6000cl36

>>108080481
So it was about 110$ per 1TB.
That's about the price here >>108080417 if it's legit.

>>108080504
I was looking at this combo >>108080118

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>>108080417
Fuck it, we ball.
eBay has scam protection anyway.

If it's fake Chinese shit I'll just return it. Because the seller accepts returns.

>>108080471
Okay go buy an Asrock motherboard then. You have been informed there are multiple reports of shit going on (even mentioned in HUB podcast today) but you'd rather reply like a faggot.

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>>108078321
I recently robbed a best buy delivery truck and now have two brand new 5070 TIs. How do I make the best of them, build wise? Is Lossless scaling a meme? Are dual GPU builds worth it or should I just sell them both and buy a 5080?

>>108080118
CPU - $500
Board - $700
Ram - $800
Yeah that's a good deal

>>108080619
Bullshit. Pics or stay a fag.

>>108080619
Become a streamer and use one as a streaming PC :^)

>>108080324
If you have four sticks you're not going to hit the max frequency btw
You're either 32 at 6000cl36 or 64 at 4200cl36 or slightly higher with lucky timings

>>108080619
How did you pull it off though

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>>108080634
Ram is pretty legit minus the retarded price.

>>108080667
They're including 6000cl30 in that bundle? I kinda assumed they'd try to offload one of their 5200cl40 kits

>>108080687
Yea.

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>>108080637
>>108080638
>>108080651
Obviously the goal is to be 4k 60fps capable for the next 4-5 years. If a dual-GPU build is something that can do that Ill happily try to work around what I already have but if its simpler to just get a 5080 I'd like to know before I really commit to a build.

>>108080704
Nice. I'd shoot for a 5090 if you really want 4k. Maybe you should rob the truck with 5090s

>>108078321
>*Exercice caution with 12VHPWR on high end nvidia cards with high power draw.
>*5070 ti and 5060 ti 16gb production is paused. Don't buy at current insane prices.

kek misspellings, old news.
Should be moved to the news and rumors sticky anyway. IDGAF if anons buy stuff or not and neither should (OP). Stocks are low, prices high on the cards most really want.

>>108079929
Market driven GPU section should be more like:

>GPU
Budget: Arc B580, 9060xt
-Used: 2080, 2080ti
*8gb has become a major constraint even at 1080p
Midrange: 5060ti 16GB, 9070, 5070
-Used: 3080, 3080ti, 4070 (~$380)
4k : 5070ti, 9070xt
-Native/High-end: 5090

>>108080649
>If you have four sticks you're not going to hit the max frequency btw
Well, fuck.
Why do they even make 4 ram slots then?

>>108080726
for people who
- need 4 sticks worth of capacity more than they need it to be fast
- don't want to pay for 2x high capacity kits

>>108080710
Can you buy a 5090 for the price of two 5070s?

>>108080649
>>108080726
Do I just sell 32G of it and make some profit since I got it for cheap months ago?

>>108080742
Probably not.

>>108080711
5070Ti and 9070XT are not running new games at 4K.
The only card doing 4K for new shit is the 5080 and the 5090.

>>108080752
>The only card doing 4K for new shit is the 5080 and the 5090.
And the 4090.

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>>108080726
>>108080741
The same happens on some server and workstation boards, pic related will throttle RAM if all slots populated. In general its to prevent the memory controller from becoming saturated.

>imagine the stutter

>>108080758
Yeah, that too.

>>108080704
Multi GPU for gaming is dead
The meta is to have the single fastest card you can afford meaning a 5080 or 5090

>>108080634
>Board - $700
Good retard

>>108080750
I didnt think so, which is why im torn between a meme dual 5070 TI build or just stop overcomplicating it and get a 5080

>>108080761
>>108080741
What a fucking scam.
I could have bought one set for two 32G months ago for cheap if I knew that's how it worked. I thought because MoBos had 4 slots that's what you're supposed to do.

>About to spend like $350 on fans and a new CPU air cooler
>all for the sake of their performance, color, and noise
I guess the upside is not having to worry that the fans will die on me early.

>>108080752
5080 uses the same chip as 5070ti.
If 5070ti have trouble running, 5080 will also. if 5090 can run at 70fps, 5080 would run at 40fps which is terrible.
15% faster (5080) is not the same as 75% (5090) faster.

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>>108080752
>5070Ti and 9070XT are not running new games at 4K.

They are for the /poor/s, though. Well rendered boob-jiggling physics at 60hz is possible with the right /settings/ for many - though I do agree that the true patrician should be using a 5080 or 5090 for 4k fap sessions. How about a compromise description like below?

>do anons agree or disagree?
>no flaming, no price bitching, no other /faggotry/
>just discuss

Should sticky be like:
>GPU
Budget: Arc B580, 9060xt
-Used: 2080, 2080ti
*8gb has become a major constraint even at 1080p
Midrange: 5060ti 16GB, 9070, 5070
-Used: 3080, 3080ti, 4070 (~$380)
4k : 5070ti, 9070xt
-Native/High-end: 5090

Or should it be like:
>GPU
Budget: Arc B580, 9060xt
-Used: 2080, 2080ti
*8gb has become a major constraint even at 1080p
Midrange: 5060ti 16GB, 9070, 5070
-Used: 3080, 3080ti, 4070 (~$380)
4k : 5070ti, 9070xt (low settings), 5080
-Native/High-end: 5090

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>>108080778
To be fair it really wasn't an issue for DDR4. DDR5 is real picky.

>>108080324
Can this set up do 4k gaming on higher end titles like CP2077?

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>>108080129
Because AMD Radeon doesn't have the sales volume to get competitive GDDR7 supply deals.
Not enough volume to ask for semi-custom VRAM designs like GDDR6X either.

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>>108080790
5080 is about 15-20% more performant than the 5070Ti.
That translates to a number of games being 4K 60fps in games where the 5070Ti gets low-50s.

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>>108080824
>15-25%
5-15%

>>108080832
Based illiterate anon.

how much better than a 5070Ti is the 5090? I can place orders through my job for an RTX 5090 at around $2350 for varying models. I'm building a high end system that I don't want to upgrade for a long time. For reference I'm coming from an Intel 7980XE and 2 GTX Titan XP's

>>108080824
Worth mentioning for the uninitiated that wukong runs terribly on everything. This also predates dlss 4.5.

>>108080824
My point is, 5090 has 2x5080 worth of cuda cores, 5070ti has 83%. The performance difference between 5070ti and 5080 is slim compared to the gigantic gap between 5080 and 5090.

>>108080813
it's kind of wild how picky it is. are we running into signaling limitations? that was my understanding on why ddr5 behaves this way, moreso than controller saturation. I wonder when we're going to need to physically move it closer. I think camm2 is trying to do this?

>>108080772
The ram alone is worth 1k and you can resell the board for 600 to someone else
Being poor is not an excuse to be retarded

>>108080860
Good luck finding anyone to actually buy it, though.

Retard who is stuffing a 265K in an ITX case here, it seems like I won't need to lower PL1 after all. Manages itself fine even within the case.
Now I'm working on figuring out SR-IOV with the Arc Pro B50 I put in here...

>>108080853
Yeah, you're not wrong. But, purely on tiering for "Does this run current games at 4K"? They're effectively the same tier. Its just one is running at 60fps and the other 100, whilst the 5070Ti is running at 55. And the 9070XT in the 40s somewhere.

If you're coming to the thread looking for a 4K build, you're getting a 5080, 4090 or 5090, so the recommendations should reflect that.

It's either that or we just ditch the whole "4K" entirely and stratify our GPU listings by a nebulous "High-Mid-Low end".

>>108080872
>>108080794

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>>108080843
5090 is nearly double the 5070 Ti's performance.
You need to set up the power cable properly on both sides (card & PSU).
It's strongly recommended to learn how to undervolt + OC the card to make it run more power efficiently and to give the 5090 a bit more safety margin.

>>108080881
My job gets Quadro/RTX Pro cards from either Nvidia FE or PNY so the 5090 I'll get access to is ths PNY triple fan regular or OC edition, whatever they have on the shelf. Will cost me $2400. any red flags? I read about ASrock possibly killing CPUs but I have a friend with this exact motherboard and CPU combo with no issues, so I'm willing to take the risk

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/PPqNn2

>>108080843
What models are available?

>>108080898
The AM5 failures are happening on all motherboards these days.
It's still somehow Asrocks fault though. Apparently.

>>108080898
PNY 5090 is better than the FE
The 5090 FE is the hottest and loudest 5090 model around and it's only advantage is it's small size to fit in compact cases

I'm also using an Asrock board and my 9800x3ds not yet fried after 14 months

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It might be a bit overblown.

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>>108080898
>any red flags?
The new 600W power connector doesn't leave a lot of safety margin for a stock 5090.
Get MSI Afterburner, learn how to OC the GPU core to around +180~210 MHz (to retain the performance you paid for) while setting a voltage limit between 875 to 950mV.
That should reduce the power draw by 50W or more, making the card a bit safer to run.
https://www.corsair.com/us/en/explorer/diy-builder/power-supply-units/is-bending-a-12v-2x6-cable-bad/

Use the CPU & memory-less BIOS updating feature on that Taichi board before you install them

This is an old OC + undervolting guide using Afterburner, but the core advice is still the same.
https://github.com/LunarPSD/NvidiaOverclocking/blob/main/Nvidia%20Overclocking.md
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPpW9yXHvOU

>>108080899
FE or PNY. Seems PNY is the choice to go with so I'll get that
>>108080912
That's what I figured as well.
>>108080919
OK thanks, good to hear

Lastly, would I be stupid in buying 3x nice IPS 1440p panels? After watching reviews of OLED/QLED etc forever they all seem to have garbage problems, potential for burn in, flicking VRR or some other shit. I'd rather not have to deal with any of that and would like to just get tried and true tech. I was looking at LG 27" 2560x1440p, 240HZ panels. They are $320 each

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/4rjv6B

>>108080898
The connector is a red flag so make sure you get an atx3.1 power supply unit with the double ended 12v2x6 cable to minimise resistance variance across the connector (which causes melting) and consider getting a wireview pro ii to monitor the current balancing

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>>108080937
>Lastly, would I be stupid in buying 3x nice IPS 1440p panels?
This is stupid. 1x 32" 4K & 1x 1440p is the better balance (fidelity/media/work on 4K, higher FPS on the 1440p).
If you like to play old pixel remastered games, these are mastered at 1080p and have some CRT reshade filters that scale best @ 4K over 1440p.

>>108080937
The 5090 is kind of pointless at 2k, but I guess I understand wanting the longevity. Hard to say what awaits us post-llm bubble, but I don't see the 5090 lasting 10 years before using it feels awful.

>>108080956
The 1080 was sold as a 4k card.

>>108080947
seems the Corsair 1500w unit I chose has
PCIe 16-pin 12VHPWR/12V-2x6 Connectors - 2 according to partpicker. It's a 2025 model so I would hope it's 5090 ready. Since when did we get to the point where connectors are melting again? It's like daisy chaining molex connectors all over again. They couldn't just stick with 8 pins for fucks sake
>>108080953
I honestly only intend to game on the center panel. I will have one monitor vertical to the left for news, discord, etc, then the final monitor in landscape on the right for videos, music player, OBS, etc.
>>108080956
>10 years
I don't expect it to. Hell I don't expect the entire PC to last 10 years, I'll be happy with 5 years of the PC not being slow, being able to run all my games at acceptable frames and fidelity. If my current PC could do it still, I wouldn't upgrade. I run my computers right up until they either die, or just can't do what I want.

>>108078632
Broken silicon.

>>108080978
the connector is just engineered for a perfect world where imperfect installations can't happen. linkrel happened on a 4090 that only pulls 420W at worst
>https://x.com/jessickyeah/status/2017155311577289100

Are ZOTAC or INNO3D good brands to buy RTX5070 from?

They're the most affordable

>>108081024
>https://old.reddit.com/r/pcmasterrace/comments/1qxy4zz/zotac_damaged_my_5090_then_blamed_it_on_me_and/

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>>108081013
I wish to be the little girl

Which Arctic paste was it that ended up shitting out early? I notice MX-4 isn't listed as a recommendations.

>>108081033
>"I took a 5090 off my grandmother's corpse"
>"thanks grandma"
Interesting.

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GUYUS
HELP!!!

I just got a 9070 XT. What's considered the most stable windows driver for it?

>>108079183
>>108079205
>>108079263
>>108079378
Skill issue. Monitor the pump's rpm and have the system shut down in case of failure. Nothing will evaporate or leak. An Arctic Liquid Freezer 3 pump is very unlikely to fail. Just don't choose the wrong product.

My new phantom spirit cools better than my old aio
They definitely degrade over time, aios are meant to last you maybe 5 years at most

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>>108080045
This. Imagine waiting for a 16GB GPU.

>>108080118
A great deal even.

>>108080417
Never buy CPU, RAM, SSD or any other delicate hardware from ebay. Scam is very likely here. CPU and RAM could be leftovers from binning, SSD could be complete fake. This shit happens every day.

>>108081219
>CPU and RAM could be leftovers from binning
Is there any way to check this?

Would I just have to bench mark it myself with some kind of tool?

>>108080870
>SR-IOV
Gl anon, i have a b60 and am waiting for updates...
What are you hoping to split up?

>PC I bought in November is now worth like $5K.
>I could sell it and buy one with a 5090 rather than the 5080 I got.
It's not a good idea, but, it's an interesting idea.

>>108081233
there's nothing to check. all it means is that someone bought a whole bunch of cpus to test and sort, and then sold off the duds at a discount

>>108080118
>see this
>already have microcenter's 9800x3d deal
>too late to return it
Maybe I just sell it on ebay for a discount and get this instead.

>>108081237
i'd do it since the 5090 has double the hardware and is 40-50% faster in games

>>108081246
>there's nothing to check
Then how could it be any different than something you bought off the shelf?
That statement doesn't make any sense.

You should be checking to see if the ram runs at the right speed, or the CPU clocks at the right speed, etc etc.

>>108081251
Yeah, but it means
>Finding somebody to buy my system for at least $4K
>Getting less and slower RAM
>Probably buying a prebuilt which will just have all cheaper parts.
It'd still be a faster PC, however...

>>108081253
manufacturing isn't perfect so everything that comes off the manufacturing line exists on a continuous distribution of performance, power and functionality. e.g. buying two 9800x3ds could net you one that's programmed for 1.10v and only uses 110W in cinebench and a second that's programmed for 1.35v and pulls 150W in the same test and thermal throttles

are compooters getting more expensive? Everyone keeps saying that, but I don't see any price hikes

>>108080711
Nicotranny Canadian jeet makes these OPs since they're unemployed and camp around bump limit

>>108081272
If they can test them to see what the duds to sell cheap are, how come you can't do the same tests?

>>108081306
Because it works within spec, the people you buy from are not going to let you return it because your friend anon has one that is a bit nicer

>>108081306
NTA but even the duds will run at stock speeds since they are designed so. It's just they might run hotter or draw more power than average.

>looking for a CPU upgrade
>currently on 8c/16t
>don't want to deal with core parking and all that bullshit
>best I can get is another 8c/16t
Why does it feel so bad to do this even if the end result will be a massive upgrade?

>>108081391
>don't want to deal with core parking and all that bullshit
This is like a one time click on process lasso lol

>>108081391
if it makes you feel any better, the 9800x3d performs like a 12-core 5900x when it comes to multithreading

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>>108081391
Go spend a few thousand on a thread ripper you whiny baby
you are little baby
not big surprise

Hilarious how everyone's given up on building and just shitposts.

>>108081461
I just made my build >>108080324
But this guy >>108081219 has me worried that my CPU is going to explode.

The guy on eBay has a 99.8% positive review. But that doesn't mean anything. I doubt the people who are leaving reviews test the run speeds of what they buy.

>>108080118
Tell me one reason not to buy this.

If I post my build youll just make fun of me...

>>108081485
You'll never resell the ram and make your money back.

>>108081488
It's okay if it's small.

>>108081500
B-but it has a zotac...
A-and an anti sag bracket...

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>>108081485
you were too slow

>>108081494
I didn't want to resell the ram though.

>>108081505
Well that solves it for me.

>>108081488
but you'll learn in the process

https://overclock3d.net/news/gpu-displays/nvidia-delays-next-gen-rtx-60-series-gpus-to-2028-report-claims/

im so glad i didnt listen to all the faggots going "just wait for the 6000 series bro"

Instead of talking about cpus, gpus, ram, and storage, recommend me a mouse and keyboard combo. Though I really only need a new keyboard.

>>108081523
The 6000 series is never coming out. By 2028 military grade Gpus will be banned for use by the peasant class.

>>108081523
>im so glad i didnt listen
This is not a rational statement to make. Whether you upgraded to the 50 series depended entirely on what you were originally using. If you were 20 series and older you would already know if you were "forced" to upgrade at that exact moment to keep up. If you were a chronic upgrader who swapped every single generation then outside opinions were completely irrelevant.

Nobody waits for the next generation. Everyone waits until the price is right for the latest generation. It is the latter who have lost miserably.

Brigitte Macron is a man, in case you were sitting there thinking, "is the president of France a total faggot?" yeah, he is.

>>108081588
>Nobody waits for the next generation
I'm literally doing that in comfyui at this moment.

>>108081416
Is it.
>>108081423
I suppose.
>>108081424
Yes you're correct I don't even need that many cores, this is totally a psychological thing.

Hey guys. What's a good upgrade from a AMD RX 6500 4GB...lol

>>108081650
RX590 8GB... just kidding
Just look at the performance list
https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/radeon-rx-6500-xt.c3850
and pick one above it with about 100% increase, and available around your area for cheap.
It's really easy to get a card faster than it since it's so shit.

>>108081235
Just looking to get a couple GPU-accelerated Windows VMs going at the same time
Seems to be working great so far!

>>108081630
>Is it.
It's really no effort. For the majority of games you can set steam to ccd0 and every game launched from steam would follow the same rule. For games outside of steam you would set it once in process lasso and never worry about it again.

I don't even know what core parking is.

>>108081701
It really is. Thanks man. I'm actually considering getting the 9060 rx which is a mid range. I'm mainly concerned if the cpu will be able issue which is AMD Ryzen 5 5000.

>>108081235
>>108081739
Oh, and because I never really saw any testing on this front:
8GB and 16GB VFs get identical Unigine Superposition scores as the host does on Linux
Seems like each VF gets the whole compute pie to work with and the only thing you're actually splitting is VRAM.

>>108078321
what are some good NVME ssds for linux? 3rd gen, or 3rd gen compatible.

>>108081920
wd_black ssds are great for linux. they dont really make gen3 stuff anymore so you could consider one of their budget gen4 drives like the sn7100 or older sn850x
most brands will work well, except for samsung which for whatever reason, performs at a fraction of the hardware's capability when not using windows

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an LG B4 77" and a PG27UCDM 27" cost the same amount
which pill are you taking

>>108081701
>>108081826
I noticed that my gpu has a bus interface of 4.0

Does that mean that I can't get a gpu thar is 5.0? I'm no good with computer.

>>108082108
It's PCI-E 4.0 @x4. The x4 is the interface you're referencing, PCI-E 4.0 is the generation. Usually cards are x16 or x8, one reason why 6500xt is so shit is because it runs at x4.
Newer cards can make use of PCI-E 5.0 but they are backwards compatible.

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>pc as tv monitor
>get random firmware update that annoys your user experience
is the tv pill worth it

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>tfw rtx 5070

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I built this PC in 2020.

About a year ago, one of my RAM sticks died. It wasn't the slot, it was the stick itself.
I replaced it and no issues.

Now I started having Chrome tabs crashing "aw snap" and even blue screens with memory errors.
I don't want to lose another stick in this economy.

How do I salvage this? Should I move both my sticks to the other slots? Should I drop their frequency and the CPU FCLK to stay 1:1?

>>108082149
Oh ok. Thank you very much!

>>108082156
Yes. Also never update anything if your system is working correctly, and even if needed, wait till some other sucker does it first.

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>>108082166
>tfw 1660 Ti (Mobile)

>>108082171
>Never update your smart tv meme
>Never use the full functionality of your TV
people on each side....

>>108082169
having different model/spec ram sticks is really stupid, it creates a hardware-level dysfunction. Get a completely new ram set if one stick dies.

>>108082189
What are these "full functions"

>>108082196
if you are gonna use apps outside of just using it as a monitor updating the os would be a must or benficial to keep that shit working I guess
just pc monitor maybe
still you want updates to fix various bugs

>>108082195
I didn't mix and match, I bought an entire new set. And I'm now having issues so it's probably this Gigabyte motherboard killing sticks.

trojan idea: "borrow" ram

>>108082201
Aren't various smart tv manufacturers getting sued right now in texas for taking screencaptures of people's tvs.

>>108082169
Having multiple dead sticks on the same system makes your mobo look really sus like it's killing your ram

>>108082204
>trojan idea: "borrow" ram
I will use this ram to construct my ai hellen of troy! what lil ago-memory-none gonna do?

>>108082212
>On December 15, 2025, the US state of Texas sued five major TV manufacturers – Hisense, LG, Samsung, Sony and TCL – over their use of ACR technology and the resale of collected data.
the schizos were right
just dns block tv in router+keep it offline
it's over

>>108079010
So just buy the cheapest one and a cheap fan?

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What's the smallest mid tower case I can buy before it goes into SFF territory, but also has good air flow and temps?

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>>108082314
If you don't care about noise then go ahead.

>>108082336
the ventus is the FE of 5070tis

>>108082336
How are its temps so much higher with over twice the fan rpm wtf

>>108082363
they didnt gimp just the fans, they also gimped the cooler by reducing heatpipe count and width

>>108082363
Other brands have 7 pipes, they put 4.

>>108082212
looks like GDPR in eu does not save us either
ACR Overlords
its over

Someone a few years back said that on aliexpress you can find laptop GPUs repurposed for desktop, which are fairly decent and sell cheaply.
Do such models still exist today that are somewhat decent?

Circumstances happened and now I need a PC. Doesn't have to be strong. No GPU needed. I only need CPU+mobo+RAM.
I know now's the worst time to build a PC, but it can't be helped.
Microcenter has 7600X+mobo+16 GB DDR5 RAM for $350. I'll buy it, but I just want to know how much better was this deal before the AI bubble? Or perhaps anyone knows of anything better?

>>108082457
the iGPU on AMD is utter dogshit, you might have a better time with one of those monolithic CPUs from them, those that have more GPU compute units and of superior designs but just buy the most inexpensive dedicated GPU instead

Best 1K Watt PSU i can get within MAX 250 euros?

>>108082462

What the fuck are you talking about? 8th gen Ryzen APUs beat the piss out of Intel iGPUs.

>>108082506
>8th gen
You mean 8000 series? That's Zen 4. Also they're talking about the small iGPU they now put on regular CPUs, not APUs.

>>108082539

Yes 8000 G series. It's clearly a better deal than 7000 series - better graphics, lower power usage. The only downside is it doesn't support ECC, but I doubt OP cares about that.

>>108082506
>>108082539
Yeah the igpu on ryzen is poopoo it's only 2 compute units compared to the dozens you get on dedicated boards. Only good for video playback and display out. RDNA2 still beats Intels drivers though, like it wont glitch out running Gamecube games.