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So is Pulsar better than OLED or not? At the same price which would you go for?

>Pulsar can't go below than 75hz

lol

>>108069535
I dont like this and I'm not sure I can communicate why

>>108069570
>So is Pulsar better than OLED or not? At the same price which would you go for?
>>Pulsar can't go below than 75hz
>lol
Just get your self an LCD monitor and stop asking questions.

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NO SUPER

>>108069614
How are people this stupid? This should have been obvious since ces at the latest

>>108069614
>No need to upgrade for another 2 years
Great!

>>108069614
fuck it I am buying a cheap 8g and see if next year comes then.

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>Give all your goy bucks to njudea for meme tech like reflex
>Doesn't even work properly in most games and causes stutters and shit
Lmao at nvidiots and their trash heap gpus and drivers

>>108069614
>glad I got my 5070 Ti
For once the FOMO might have worked out for the better.

>>108069614
>NO SUPER
yeah we already knew that
>60 series pushed to 2028
....this is more problematic
fuck should i have gotten a 5080 or a 5090....

It's time to say it. The price of GPUs and RAM means the entire PC hardware environment is now non-viable for continuation, and investment for the intent of building new systems is inadvisable.

>>108069674
Don't make the same mistake again and buy $5000 6090 at launch.

>>108069678
I probably will and deal with all the crazy ass driver issues it'll probably have for the first 6 months too

Ive been gaming on a 1440p 165hz tn panel and finally feel the need to upgrade. Theres a 300hz ips I was looking at but then I saw a 240hz with minileds and was wondering if Id see more use out of the minileds than the extra 60fps.
My main game is cs2 but I can't get 300fps on it so Im thinking the 240 might be better.

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>>108069614
WAITFAGS LOSE AGAIN

>>108069678
He could buy the workstation 6000 today for just a few dollars more than that and probably be better off

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>China will save u.....-ACK

>>108069691
Can you even find RTX PRO 6000 near suggested price?

>>108069653
>giving a shit about vidyatoys
nigga tell that retarded chink lady to UP the fucking AI video renders or people will keep buying novidia since her retarded indian engies can't fucking code for shit to make gens not take AGES compared to fucking 8gb models jesus.

>>108069684
Truly clown world we live in.

>>108069264
why don't they just make the liquid non-conductive?

>>108069691
>>108069707
>buy the workstation 6000 today for just a few dollars more
It was $8500 at launch for a lucky few, now it's $10000 if not way more. Sure that's just a few dollars more than 5000.
>and be better off
For AI? Sure if you do use the 96 GB of VRAM. For performance and gaming? The Rubin GPU should be at least 50% faster.

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Concise CPU and GPU guide for newfags
>Intel + Nvidia = Faggot Normie Consoomer or Indian
>Ryzen + Nvidia = Reddit
>Intel + Arc = Brain Damage
>Ryzen + Arc = Schizo
>Intel + Radeon = Schizo
>Ryzen + Radeon = Real PC Enthusiast #Pewdiepie approved

>NVidia cutting production
While it's fun to lord over the fact that you have something and others do not, this is going to force the entire games industry to pivot to mobile, and all the hardware that actually exists will mean jack and shit.

>Corsair RM1200x SHIfT on sale
It had to be the retarded child, fuck.

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>/pcbg/ says SSD and RAM prices are going to keep going up throughout Q1 '26
>'invest' in relatively cheap RAM and SSDs
>prices stop going up
>supply starts to get better
>no one wants to buy my competitively priced SSDs or RAM
How could /pcbg/ do this to me?

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>>108069819
If the last few years have been any indication of how things are going, the poorer are just going to get more fucked and anyone with anything entertainment related is just going to concentrate on the people who can afford to waste money on it.

It's far more likely that video games are going to get even harder and the hardware to be more expensive to run in the future than they are now

It's not like good gaming phones are all that cheap either

does VRR still work if you use DP-HDMI adapter cable?

>>108069705
I will never buy Commie RAM.

>>108069852
>>>prices stop going up
yes things have nicely settled around 250% what they used to be. The consumer market prevails!

>>108069875
>$500 is 250% of $100
Math prevails!

>>108069864
>Commie RAM
Nope you will by completely capitalist RAM with communist modules.

>>108069535
>EK water block
>AIO Slop
but why?

>>108069614
>new cards will take longer to arrive
>you may use your current cards with confidence for longer
GAYMERS
ARE
SUFFERING

>>108069519
Tranny OP
Tranny disinfo
Tranny tactics

>>108069785
>It was $8500 at launch for a lucky few,
https://www.centralcomputer.com/nvidia-rtx-pro-6000-blackwell-max-q-edition-96gb-gddr7-24064-cuda-cores-pci-express-5-0-x16-300w-bulk-900-5g153-2200-000-01.html
>The Rubin GPU should be at least 50% faster.
It does not exist, stop baiting waitfags with promises you can't fulfill

>>108069852
why are you using computer hardware as an investment

>>108069943
>blower
>300W
>Max-Q
It's not even the same SKU.
>It does not exist
Rubin exists. Unless NVIDIA completely exits the market for good it'll release, any year now.

>>108069864
>deranged red scare boomer

judeocapitalists have been screwing you and eating k*ds on private islands but its the commies who are evil lmao

>new 9060XT 16GB SKUs are listed at 499 USD
>new Arc B580 SKUs are listed at 370 USD
I hope you boughted in time

>>108069989
>have not boughted the A310 or B570 yet for the HTPC
I can only hope it'll be ok

>>108069968
>any year now.
Trust the plan

>>108069651
searching for a card over 8gb that is not too overpriced yet would be wiser, otherwise accept your fate and keep waitfagging

>nvidia will cut gpu production for 2026
3090CHADS status?
4090GODS status?

>>108069968
https://www.centralcomputer.com/nvidia-rtx-pro-6000-blackwell-workstation-96gb-gddr7-24-064-cuda-cores-pci-express-5-0-x16-600w-bulk-900-5g144-2200-000-01.html
Then have another SKU.
>Unless NVIDIA completely exits the market for good it'll release,
That's exactly what they want to do, they hate everyone involved in this hobby.

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>>108070055
not on my beat time

>>108069614
5090 buyers are eating well.

>>108070060
>$8000
Good for anon. $6000 for 2% more FPS and 64 GB more VRAM over the 5090 FE. I love corporations!

All of ytou should probably just spend as much money as possible on computer hardware. Think of a budget and double it and spend that.

Unironically how bad would one of the Nvidia spark things be for aislop? Given the price of everything it seems like it could be a pretty good deal?

>>108070122
Hard to find one for 2k now dougheverbeit. The vram is the big part, but I agree total corpo love!

>>108070080
og pso was so bad ass

>>108070122
more cuda cores too btw, gamers are getting the leftovers

>>108070174
its for people training models at home. if you're just generating slop then go cloud its much cheaper/faster.

>>108070174
A 5090 would be better for AIslop. The spark is literally for data science students that need to use gigantic models for training. A 5090 will shit out all the slop you want way faster.

>>108070255
>>108070278
I am interested in local only, my problem is larger models than what a 5090 can handle, not to mention easier to find stock of this.
Is it really that much slower though? I have not found many good reviews sadly

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what should I put in my front drive bays

Spend money now because if you HOLD your money is worth less due to inflation

That's why I spent $4K
Also we're trying to deflate our debt through inflation (USA) since it's what, 40 trillion? That's the only way smartly to do it because debt value stays the same, but the value of the dollar is lessened, so the debt "costs less".

Also if you have any money that you don't need, invest in ETF or just hold it in a money market, at least you'll get 3-4% returns and it will be liquid (make sure it's a money market MUTUAL fund for FDIC protections)

buy $GLD if you wanna go full retard but don't get dividends since it's not based on company performance

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>>108070292
>drive bays
sup unc

>>108070297
Howdy, young'un.

>>108070292
Fans
MOAR cooling

>>108070292
5.25 coffee holder.

>>108070292
cheap aliexpress figurines

>>108070292
i've personally been looking for a card reader but they all seem chinkshit with made up brand names so dunno if to trust them

>>108070290
if your ai models exceed local then you should be looking at cloud setups.

>>108070290
how big are these models that you need for aislop that a 5090 would be too small for?

>>108070337
this is a problem I'm running into as well. How do I know there's not some wifi chip on a drive bay setup that reads the data and sends it over air instead of just being pass-through?

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>>108018978
The memory came in. No red SanDisk logo. DOM of May 2025. Prefer it this way honestly. Newegg has dropped its base price to $859, so not much of a deal. But I had been looking to upgrade my 1T SN770 regardless.

>>108070432
well im worried them mainly just being shit quality

>>108070290
>Is it really that much slower though?
Yes, better question is whether one of those Ryzen 395 things would give you better bang for your buck.

I just finished building my new PC, now I'm at the point where I just have to install the OS, thing is I wanna transfer my Windows 10 from my old PC to my new one, is that possible? Do I simply just move my SSD from the old one to the new one?

>>108070528
Start clean or endure pain
Hit up /fwt/
Also new equipment may not have Win10 drivers sadly
Like my X870E wifi
But I use wired so idgaf

>>108070467
same difference

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>>108069675
It’s not just inadvisable — *it’s damn near impossible*!

>>108070528
if you're going from intel -> amd or viceversa transfer whatever stuff you need to a usb or spare drive and then do a fresh install of windows and transfer stuff back.

if its same cpu platform then no need to reinstall.

>>108070561
Both PCs use a AMD card, old one uses a ryzen 7 2700, new one uses a 5800X

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22TB Ironwolf Pro RMA finally came back in.

Didn't get lucky enough for a free upgrade (24/28TB), but I did at least get a brand new drive instead of a recertified drive.
1 Power on count
0 Power on hours

>>108070380
There are some fun models in the 100gig range esp if you are willing to consider tiny quants glm4.6 maybe

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>>108070447
I feel sorry for you anon.

This was just a month and a half earlier.

>>108070597
you dont have to do a fresh install then. just make sure all the drivers are uninstalled in safe mode and then reinstall the new ones.

>>108069519
Should I undervolt both my CPU and GPU? Got a 7800X3D and a 9070XT running on mint

How hard is RAM "overclock" on AM5? There's a kit of 5600MT/s CL36 with somewhat ok pricing given recent months and I'm thinking of just setting 6000MT/s in the bios and maybe manually setting the major timings.

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>>108070055
>4090GODS
Feeling bretty gud.
4090 is the 1080ti of modern cards; a multi-generational champ.

>>108070669
Depends on the chips.

Hynix A-Die/M-Die is pretty simple

>>108070648
>SN850X
Wouldn't have bought.

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I spent 2 hours trying to figure out why my PC doesn't POST after upgrading the RAM. The RGBs were on but my AIO fans and pumps weren't moving, so I thought it might be a motherboard or PSU failure. But then I figured out that you have to apply pressure to the RAM until it clicks itself; securing the latch isn't actually sufficient for the RAM to be fully seated.

>>108070671
it's true.
i balked at the original price and regret every day since.

>>108070669
you will know right away if its not stable because the system immediately acts weird. boot loops, desktop crashing, audio stutter, usb drop outs, etc. you just dial it back until it goes away.

>>108069653
>reflex doesn't even work properly in most games and causes stutters
Wait does this also happen on windows? I thought i thought this was happening on Linux because of bad drivers or a problem with the compatibility layer.

>>108070680
Thanks for the tip.
>>108070706
Yeah I've had my sheer amount of experience with OC on AM4 using Zen 1.

>>108070649
I'm on safe mode now, I just go and uninstall my AMD drivers from device manager I assume?

>>108070750
Not the anon helping you. But download DDU and let it do it for you. Don't manually uninstall everything.

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>96GB of RAM + mid-range Z890 mobo for 650 ameriburgers
Feeling like a winner right now, lads.

Would it even make sense to buy a second hand 4090 for like 2000 dollars at this point? Realistically its not going to be delivering poor performance any time this decade at the very least right?

>>108070623
congrats anon I'm happy you got a good RMA

>>108070680
It's a KF556C36BBE-32 so hopefully that's decent.

>>108070791
It's still the 2nd strongest consumer graphics card on the planet, 4 years later, somehow...

>>108070750
Run DDU for GPU.
Remove network drivers and other Mobo/old computer specific stuff.

>>108070794
Thanks anon, now I just have to start filling it

>>108070800
Yeah that should be Hynix.

>>108070791
6000 series is going to be 2 or 3 generational leaps in one since the 5000 was the same node. The 4090@600w is going to unironically be outperformed by a $500 6060Ti sipping 160w

>>108070811
Does that mean DDU only does GPU drivers? What about my AMD CPU? I have DDU installed and my wifi disconnected from the PC now

>>108070700
Yep. I bought a 5090 because I missed out. It is looking like a good deal at this point. Having the fastest GPU for five years is a pretty sweet deal.

>>108070863
you can uninstall chipset drivers in the windows uninstall panel shit but you dont have to. just wipe all the drivers that are old platform specific. network, audio, bluetooth, and so on.

>>108070695
I have one system where the latches will click into place by themselves even if the RAM isn't fully seated, that caused a good few hours of needless troubleshooting
Thanks assrock

>>108070862
>The 4090@600w is going to unironically be outperformed by a $500 6060Ti sipping 160w
That trend has not proven true. The 60 series has been stagnate for three generations.

>>108070862
Sure but that's still like two years off at the very least. I don't wanna be sitting on a 3070 8GB that long and again, I don't think the 4090 will somehow not deliver decent performance by that point. 1440p@120hz in AAA games seems realistic by that point.

>>108070860
>Yeah that should be Hynix.
Thank you, looked it up and that seems to be the case.

>>108070862
>4060ti can't beat 3070
>5060ti can't beat 4070
>5070 can't beat 4070ti
yeah the next xx60ti will be on x07 chip with 100mm^2 and won't beat 5070.

>>108070908
Get a 5070 or higher and you will be happy for years.

>>108070922
maybe if you count the arbitrary limit on software for generating fake frames you could say they're better.

>>108070931
Software improved, but hardware stagnated. 90 series is the only real improvement.

>>108069852
This isn’t fucking Bitcoin you tard

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>>108070862
Also forgot to mention, despite being 2 generations newer, 5050 can't beat a fucking 3060ti.

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>>108070925
Yeah I suppose. I'll run down and get one tomorrow. Thanks.

>>108070911
For future checks, you can see in the memory compatibility list on Gigabyte's mobos, it tells you the module's chip brand.
https://www.gigabyte.com/ar/Motherboard/X870-AORUS-ELITE-WIFI7-ICE/support#Support-Memory-Support

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What air cooler should I buy? I'm trying to recover from my Noctua addiction. Pic related is on sale and I want to buy it.

>>108070965
x50 series cards to me never qualified as real graphics cards. some dont even have encoders/decoders. as in no video processing capabilities. all it can do really is allow multi screens.

I have +35% MSRP fatigue....

>>108071001
Amazing tip anon, thank you very much! I was not aware of that since other vendors never list the chip brand.

>>108071002
I have the Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 got it for around 40€. It's a really good cooler. The fans it came with are also decent but since then i have replaced them with Arctic P12 max (the newer version with fdb).

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>>108071037

VideoLAN and the VLC development team present VLC 3.0.23 "Vetinari".
VLC 3.0.23 is a major update to VLC 3.0 branch, focused on security fixes and maintenance. It also adds a Dark Mode, fixes support for Windows XP

>>108071005
250, 450, 650ti, 750ti, 950, 1050ti, 3050 were all real cards, they could just use xx10 xx20 xx30 but of course we have model name inflation too.

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>>108071002
That's a buy once, cry once cooler if you plan to use sub-150W TDP CPUs for a while.
https://www.noctua.at/en/expertise/blog/a-cooler-for-life-celebrating-half-a-million-mounting-upgrade-kits

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>>108063070
>>108064118
Retard poorfag from yesterday here again
I am mildly convinced on 1440p, but I would appreciate a third opinion before I order it tomorrow
All of them cost pretty much the same

>>108071109
I think they have those xx10-xx30 but they're for asian cyber cafés and looping commercial displays. They just don't make sense to market at regular consumers.

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>>108071002
>>108071002
>I'm trying to recover from my Noctua addiction
Why?

>>108069535
Trident Z5s come in blue? Huh.

how do I add 32 gb to my 5050 bruh.

>>108070880
Regarding DDU, do I leave this checklist as is? This is how it was by default

>>108070447
Shit, that's like 26% worse $/tb than my 8tb sn8100

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My old budget PC from 2017 is in desperate need of an upgrade. It's so fucking slow and unusable at this point. I currently use it as my backup PC and I want to make it decent

>CPU: AMD FX(tm) - 6300 Six-Core Processor
>GPU: Radeon RX 560 Series
>RAM: 32GB DDR3
>Single HDD for the entire system

As of right now, it's unusable with how long it takes to do the most basic shit. After I entered my password to access the PC, I spent a whole minute and a half staring at a black screen before my desktop appeared, and another minute waiting for all the internet browser and program tabs at the taskbar to appear. Clicking on the "Type here to search" bar on the bottom left will at worst, do nothing, and at best, pop up a transparent tab that I can use to type what I need and hope I can blindly select the right program. I checked the performance and the disk is at 100%

Are these problems coming from my HDD? Should a replacement HDD or a SSD fix it? I'm not trying to make this PC a workhorse or anything. I just want it to be something I can rely on and maybe use it for light gaming.

Hopefully we don't get swamped by people thinking the AI bubble is popping (it isn't) and Memory/Storage prices will go back to "normal"
Because even if it hypothetically popped today it'd take 2 years for prices to drop and production to switch to more consumer orientated memory.

>>108071191
>Single HDD for the entire system
Here's your problem, throw a SSD in the build and it'll be fine. I've managed to make 13 year old laptops usable for browsing and office work by just adding a SSD, you're good.

>>108070893
How about the 70 (Ti) line? 5070 Ti is 35%+ faster than 3090 and consumes less, for less than half the MSRP. The memory also doesn't go anywhere near 90 degrees.

>>108071191
>Are these problems coming from my HDD? Should a replacement HDD or a SSD fix it?
Get a SSD and move your OS partition there, 2 8gb ram sticks should be fine too

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>>108071187
it should be self explanatory

>>108071191
>Are these problems coming from my HDD?
yes. I mean your entire computer is trash even by 2017 standards but these slow ass loading time is absolutely due to your HDD. It'll be a great upgrade and noticeable improvement on your system.

>>108071002
>>108069152

>>108071187
I know jayztwocents has a video on in if you want a hand hold.

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>>108071191
a pc from 2017 shouldn't be that shitty
>Single HDD for the entire system
oh well. that'll do it.

Is the Frozen Edge good or simply good for the money? Thinking of upgrading from my Phantom Spirit 120 SE.

related?
>>108071044

>>108071191
with modern ssd prices you might as well seek for a shitty prebuilt

>>108070039
Then I will OOOHMMMMMMM cuz I just witnessed a card go +$200.

>>108071265
I'd really like that I'm super new to all this

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>>108071191
>FX6300
Don't expect much from that thing, a ryzen 1300x run circles around it.
FX series had similar IPC to Phenom II.

>>108071137
Consider PPI. Ideal PPI is around 92-93 (it feels a lot to be 'true to size'). Anything smaller will look blurry, anything larger will force you to use resolution scaling.
Ideal sizes (92-93 PPI, sitting around ~60cm from monitor, 100% scaling - no any upscaling):
1080p ~> 24"
1440p ~> 32"
4k ~> around 49"
From your list I wouldn't take any of those. Buy a 32" 1440p panel.

>>108071299
Start at like 8:45
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F8OLhUAPDq0

>>108069406
>>Pro
>That's a troll recommendation, it's the normal/PWM ones that are good without having suicide-induciding noise.
>They are not the absolute best fans but they are good and affordable.
Wait, really?
Unfortunately Pro is all I have available to buy. Though I did find an "Arctic P12 PWM PST ARGB - White 120mm [ACFAN00254A]" but it's expensive, not exactly affordable. Only 1 costs half of a Pro 3-pack set.
Is the noise that terrible? Otherwise what would you recommend?

>>108071222
5070ti was a good buy before they cost what a 5080 should. The 5070 is still at a decent price point for now, but it wont last.

>>108071221
>>108071224
>>108071235
>>108071275

Thank you. I'm going to look for a cheap SSD option, hopefully one that will cost me less than an arm. I'm willing to compensate by getting a cheap low-storage SSD and just put all my games and important files on a HDD

>>108071294
I can wait a while. I really hope these high prices are just temporary, but I also know this may very well be the new standard thanks to the demand of big corporations, jeets, and SEAmonkeys who rely on AI. I really hope it isn't that

Does anyone know if the core parking features of 9950X3D will work fine with Windows 10 LTSC?

>>108071332
>Is the noise that terrible
Look for forums online. The other day one anon here was complaining about it.
>what then
Arctic non Pro. I have one P12 PWM PST for over 3 years now and it's very good. You can get the non-PWM version too.
>can't buy Arctic
Afraid I have not researched further since there was no need. It's known Noctua fans are good but they are overpriced. Maybe there's a fan guide or tier list somewhere. Or check what cases with good fans use.

>>108071358
The coreparking thing relies on gamebar which is windows 11 only.

>>108071377
Huh, shame, I'll go with a 7800x3d since it's on sale right now, $120 jump to the 9800x3d doesn't seem worth it.

>>108071392
The alternative is using process lasso. Once you set it up it works automatically.

>>108071247
Last time I bought a thermalright the fan shit itself and the cost savings disappeared.

>>108071409
>the fan
You can replace it with an Arctic fan or whatever you want even a Noctua one and it'll still be cheaper, lasting and perform better.

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>>108069614

It was very obvious this was coming, but for some reason a lot of idiots were still dreaming of super series becoming a thing.
No shit is the 6000 series pushed back when the entire manufacturing capacity is going into AI meme that prints money and has already sold out for the next year at least.
And when the 6000 series comes out, you can bet your ass it's extremely expensive and unobtanium.
If you're a waitfag, you'll be waiting until 2028 for the new series and you will see the entire lineup scalped to hell.
You'll be waiting at least 6 months for an upgrade and that's the earliest you'll get it, but it'll likely take longer towards 2029.
Seriously, just bite the bullet and buy a 5090 right now before their prices actually hit +5 grand and call it a day on GPU upgrades until 2032.

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>>108071392
>7800x3d since it's on sale right now
I don't see it.

>>108071409
the whole cooler is like 32 bucks >>108069333

>>108069614
well shit, I didn't expect my 5090 to be a 3-year purchase
I'd hoped to replace it with a 400W 6090 by mid 2027

>>108071418
The replacement Noctua fans cost more than the cooler. I could have spend 20 more and just got the whole damn cooler. I don't know.

>>108071431
Same but hoped the 6090would be 800w and 50 percent more performance.

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>>108071421
No gaymes worth playing on a 5090.

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>>108071456
Every game is worth playing on a 5090

Pretty sure I bricked my main gaming PC that was running Ubuntu. I think I'm gonna build a whole new rig from the ground up with Windows and switch this laptop I'm posting from to Linux to educate myself with so I don't fuck up again. Most of the components on the gaming rig are at least ten years old. How fucked am I if I haven't built since then?

>>108071456
No, but think of the Skyrim mods

>>108071456
No 5090 owner has ever said this.

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>>108071465
>How fucked am I if I haven't built since then?

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>>108071461
>tfw playing New Vegas on my 5090 with a 3x3 12K native

>>108071344
>at a decent price point
people always say this but at what do you guys think you are being a cuck and paying too much?
30%?
40%?
15?

>>108071482
I don't have any reaction images saved on this backup laptop please be nice.

>>108071465
>How fucked
buy the cheapest 8g and bunker down with it. unless you are playing gta6, then just buy a 5070ti on credit. It will be cheaper on the long run if you are waiting for payday/savings.

>>108071461
Even PSO2 NGS?

>>108071496
You have to decide. Everyone was screaming to buy a few months ago. Now is fucked, but tomorrow is more fucked.

Does anyone here have an Antec Flux M? I have a technical question I can't find an answer to.

>>108071514
I never knew this even existed did they just release it?

>>108071344
Might last and even slightly decrease: it's on Nvidia priority list.

>>108071276
Unless you have a cpu that consumes >200W i don't think liquid cooling is worth it. You are adding more points of failure to your system: fans, pump, risk of leakage. If your able to keep your cpu under 80ºC with minimal noise i wouldn't bother upgrading. And even then i would first make sure i have good quality fans with fluid dynamic bearing and setup a good fan curve.
That being said, radiators have the advantage of allowing you to increase surface area while at the same time reduce mechanical stress on the motherboard. I have never tried the one you mention but they are not some magical high tech item that are super hard to manufacture. The frozen edge should be both good and good for the money, however if you decide to get it, go for the 360mm because otherwise if you get the 240mm you are going to have exactly the same surface area and won't have any performance benefit except maybe for thermal mass. If anything it might make your system look cleaner.

>>108071496
1%

>>108071344
Feels good having boughted my 5070 Ti at MSRP on New Year, literally the last boat. I also got the model I wanted and not just whatever, and it turned out excellent.

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>>108069614
>mfw still rocking 1070ti

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another one

>>108071604
I got a PNY mid January from a microcenter. Best Buy had the same model up for sale online occasionally but would sell out in minutes.

>>108071575
NVIDIA will never lower prices with parts on the rise.

>>108071641
Noctua actually care about noise and pitch unlike thermalright who knows these coolers are all going to be used in either a 2000 seater netcafe or apartment block with 12 people to a house

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should i buy this?

>>108071701
>hopper
might as well settle for maxwell lmao

>>108071701
>compliance required
What is this? Some sort of Borg tech?

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>>108071377
>>108071358
> gamebar which is windows 11 only
What are you talking?
Game bar works perfectly fine with my Windows 10 IoT Enterprise LTSC and my 9950X3D.
Most games are recognized and run on the CCD with VCache. Only some few are not recognized and require process lasso.

>When we announced these products in November, we planned on being able to share specific pricing and launch dates by now. But the memory and storage shortages you've likely heard about across the industry have rapidly increased since then. The limited availability and growing prices of these critical components mean we must revisit our exact shipping schedule and pricing (especially around Steam Machine and Steam Frame).
>Our goal of shipping all three products in the first half of the year has not changed. But we have work to do to land on concrete pricing and launch dates that we can confidently announce, being mindful of how quickly the circumstances around both of those things can change. We will keep you updated as much as we can as we finalize those plans as soon as possible.


https://store.steampowered.com/news/group/45479024/view/625565405086220583

man I've been out of the loop

It's really never been more over

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boughted some upgrades:
5800x3d -> 9850x3d
MSI MAG Tomahawk X570S -> ASUS Prime X870-P
32 GB DDR4-3200 -> 32 GB DDR5-6000

>>108071533
It's a newer one.

>>108071576
This is genuine. Thank you for the written out response. I'll stick with air.

>>108071404
Will take a look, thanks. I'm a programmer who sometimes play games in my scarce free time so I would really like having more cores than my current CPU (Ryzen 1700).
>>108071427
I'm not american.

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>>108071701

>>108071725
thats a good deal

>>108071725
Where is that so I can buy it too

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Why is the 12V connector vertical on the FE cards?

>>108071770
>For those who dare

>>108071768
Microcenter

>>108071770
To save space
>>108071776
Fe is Rog now?

>>108071770
the FE PCB is funky as shit compared to other cards

>>108071701
>>108071736
What would you even run locally on those? Every available model at the same time?

>>108071725
> Sluggish RAM destroys any gains of the 9850X3D

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Scored this 5070 ti for below MSRP. Total was 601 after tax. I kind of impulse bought it, I don't even game but I have been doing AI stuff lately. I figured even if I didn't use it I could sell it for a profit. Thanks Walmart. (ripe scheme for exploitation, they seem to mark down anything that was returned if it's opened)

>>108071725
>the same components cost a cool 1200€ in germanistan
jesus fucking christ save me

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>>108071817

>>108071823
>YOU PAY: $561.75
>total was 601 after tax
how is this allowed?

>>108071817
It doesn't though, the 3D VCache literally makes it so your RAM is less important since it has so much more cache to use.

Sure, if you want the BEST performance in your 1% and 0.1% lows, bette RAM will help, but it's not a massive difference.

Especially since 6000Mhz CL36 can likely be manually tuned for CL30 with tREFI at 30,000-50,000 (instead of 10,000) and tRFC at 400-500 (instead of 800+) without much if any extra voltage.

>>108069614
I told you retards, it was obvious the moment Lisa Su did not announce the PS6 coming on next year, she just said she was ready to support ultra magnus (xbox meme box)

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>>108071421
im unironically too poor to afford the electricity bills on anything beyond 200W GPU's and its probably gonna get worse as more datacenters get operational on my city

>>108071719
How annoying is dealing with Gamebar? Does it work fine with JRPG games? Not that I think this is any meaningful given most are probably single-threaded, but still.

>>108071841
Welcome to America, it's called sales tax. You get taxed on your paycheck+at the check out. In my state its 7%. Retail prices are always before tax. Tax is calculated at checkout.

>>108071870
>Tax is calculated at checkout.
but why tho? why not calculate it when they put the price tag on?

>>108071885
Because like that you know exactly how much of tax you're paying to the State, it's more transparent that way makes more sense. I'm brazilian and as any country we also have sales tax here but embedded into the price tag and it sucks because it hides how much the product could cost without the tax on top of it.

>>108071823
>open box
>returned new 5070 Ti
>severely discounted
Good chances he swapped it, the actual old scam.

>>108071885
judaism

>>108071885
Because the tax varies by state and they dont know what state you are in until you give them a billing address.

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>>108069614
Blackwell marketshare is gonna be so big devs are gonna target the 5070 until 2035

>>108071857
60s peak at 180w
70s can be limited to same and lower stable operational pull

>>108071885
Dark pattern to trick consumer into spending more money.

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>>108071966
I'm on a 5060 TI 16gb heavily undervolted and memory OC, it pulls 135-140W with no performance loss which is pretty neat it even increased enough to match somewhat a 4070

>Exercice caution with 12VHPWR on high end nvidia cards with high power draw.
Don't Radeon cards also have that problem?

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>>108071919
The ESD bag was still sealed. Don't know why they returned it, clerk said it was returned just yesterday. Performance is as expected of the card.

>>108071988
just the sapphire nitro OC

>>108071988
Yes but he's a blatant shill

>>108071991
The most likely reason is someone shit on the card on discord and so he seethed and went and bought a 5090 instead

>>108071949
they will also have to keep targeting the ps5 and switch 2

>>108071830
you dumb krauts got rid of your nuke plants

>>108071988
and the taichi but these two cards are almost always overpriced or out of stock.

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>they're doubling down on trying to push cloud gaming services during the hardware drought

My bro says RAM prices will come back down eventually, but why should they? I figure it will go the same as GPUs: producers will realize they can make way more money on enterprise and forsake the consumer market. Prices will go "down" 20% maybe, but that's still 2-3x their previous cost.

>>108072061
to be fair it actually got good now. no i dont shill for it. but av1 and fiber is miles better than onlive h264 and dsl.

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it's unironically over

are Intel GPUs bad? I found one(relatively) cheap so I am wondering if they are error prone or "gud enough" for how cheap they are?

>>108072106
The real fucked up market is nand and storage as thats harder to decouple, ram is safe as larger cache proccesor are coming which will reduce the need for faster or low latency ram quite a bit, still it will be retarded prices until the chinese join the market and even then it will probably never wil be as cheap as it was but it'll be stable

>>108072123
you have to pair them with a overkill cpu otherwise they perform worse than budget nvidia/amd. most people buying the intel cards are pairing them with budget builds so its bad in that sense.

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>>108071857
Electricity has already gone up 50% in my area.

>>108072115
>playstation branded ssd
thats more of collectors item than anything. like getting a microsoft branded ssd.

Best pc components for a convicted pedophile island owner?

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>>108072144

>>108072130
5600x3d?

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>>108072155
>2TB
>store up to 50 games

>>108072023
and not a day goes by where I don't curse those green party treehuggers and the coal lobby for doing that shit to us

>9800x3d: 530 USD
>9950x: 663 USD
>9950x3d: 853 USD
At least these prices make sense in my country, now I only need to pick my poison.

>>108072115
https://www.bestbuy.com/product/wd-black-sn850p-4tb-internal-ssd-pcie-gen-4-x4-with-heatsink-for-ps5/JXJ62C6HVR?sb_share_source=PDP
>it's real
why so expensive?

>>108072165
yeah word it's more like 20

>>108072165
is it cheaper to buy two playstations and just uninstall/reinstall on alternating ones.

>>108072175
(meant for the expensive one)

>>108069519
Can you even build a PC without RAM or a GPU? The shit would cost as much as a car right now.

>>108072194
Don't look at car prices these days bud.

>>108072164
thats perfect

>>108072194
you dont have to build. just buy a used prebuilt or laptop.

>>108072194
Right now, honestly, all the tricks have basically been worn out. Everything that looks like a deal is kind of bad. Like you can get a shit tier motherboard in a deal with ram and cpu. But the mobo is craaaapy.

Another trick, you buy a boxed pc where the retailer is unaware they can raise the price.

same for ebay underpricing, the bargains are probably gone.

All the tricks have dried up.

All that remains is to beg Donald Trump to force Intel to make Optane again, that's literally all we have left. Democrats will never make Optane, they think we should share an electric bicycle with George Floyd, only not nice banana dance George Floyd, but George Floyd when he can't get his fix.

Democrat COVID fraud really fucked everyone with the free money floating around
Just look at Cali and Minnesota

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>>108072197
This is for DDR4 ECC for crying out loud.

>>108072106
There are a lot more players in the ram production business, at least in theory. You also don't need a billion dollar fab to crank the shit out, so eventually they will ramp up production but it will take a couple of years.

>>108071983
yes that is possible
less heat due to lower power draw is cool

>>108072201
Noice!

Everyone in government and especially those of certain backgrounds sunk all their fucking money into AI thinking it's a sure bet. They won't allow it to fail even though it's fundamentally a doomed, fraudulent technology pushed in the first place to exploit stupid fuckers with too much money and too little actual sense. It was a tiger trap for corrupt assholes.

>>108072245
at some point though it has to fail? unless they just keep pumping trillions into it

I now have a burning hatred for ai

>>108069614
Glad I got a 5080 at below MSRP.
Going to be the best GPU <$1000 for like 4 years now.

>>108072245
technically is the opposite, big corpos have used BLAS and compute for years, AI is just a buzzword for boomers and dumb people, at the end of the day even before AI hardware accelerated compute was the most important thing in any scientific, militarry, or big data enterprise, AI is just an excuse for these hyperscalers to be able to build datacenter and scale without people losing their shit because its good for the economy

>>108072257
When it does, you'll have a lot more to worry about than RAM prices.

currently on a shitty 3070 ti, should i get a 9070 xt or wait and see what happens to the 5070 ti?
i'd like to see improved frames on most everything but the big offenders (sub 60) that i'd like to have nut-worthy quality on are modded skyrim and cyberpunk.
also the oblivion remaster, but that problem is mostly because ue5 is dogshit so i won't count that game against the card.
trying to stay below $1k, but i'd be fine going above that if it's a really good deal on a future-proof card.

>>108072276
please get the 9070 XT saar

>>108072245
a lot of them are technologically retarded. they don't know what AI or a GPU is. they just see line go up and support it. just like the dotcom bubble they didnt know what a fucking domain is but they know big players are getting in and they want in too.

AMD IS BEST VALUE SAAAAAAAAAR

>>108072283
this...it's mostly retard boomers that can barely use an email client that are the biggest shills of it

you and I know it's crap

>>108072257
The problem is most of the stock market is now the companies investing trillions into fancy autocorrect. So when AI fails to deliver any value, the whole global economy will crash with it.

>>108072283
>>108072290
You retards need to understand that yes, LLM and the salt altman and the jeets buying AMD gpus are not turning a profit but every single hyperscaler buying nvidia chip does

>>108072276
>future-proof card
no such thing. In 2016 the gtx 1080 was released. It didn't last 10 years in terms of relevance. You can get an Arc card that's faster.

>>108072295
yes and where is that profit coming from???
it's printed money being thrown at the ai companies who in turn spend money on azure, aws etc
don't think for a minute the hyperscalers aren't going down with the ship when the music stops

>>108072276
if you can find a 9070 xt at a decent price get it
>what happens to the 5070 ti
it will be discontinued

>>108072295
microsoft, amazon, oracle, and tesla were already making money before that.

>>108072309
nvidia is going to stop making consumer grade gpu's altogether
except maybe the 5050 and 5060
mark it

>>108072304
From government, scientific research and military contracts, all GPU's are doing is math calculations really fucking fast specifically matrix x matrix multiplication which were used on these fields before chatgpt, BLAS libraries have existed and known to the public since the 70s. Yes AI is a meme, but that does not mean that most of these compute is not even being used for AI anyways, most of it goes to research and do real time corrections on gigantic data models

>>108072310
and tat was because were using nvidia gpus and using hardware accelerated compute which is the shit behind AI to do so.

>>108071717
its goes into adam smashers nutsack

>decide to buy a RGB mousepad to match all my other RBG shit (KB/Mouse/Mouse dock etc)
>buy the razer firefly v2 pro since all my other shit is razer
>only use the color white for all my stuff
>for some god damn fucking reason the mousepad can't display white only a slight blueish color
>spend over an hour trying to get all the shit to match
>no matter what white or white/blueish color I try to use the mousepad is alwasy slightly off
>finally had enough
>unplug the mousepad and throw the fucking thing in the trash
>another $100 down the drain

For the record I've never had a single issue with any razer stuff I've use but for some reason the mouse pads just can't fucking display white.

>>108072170
what about 9850x3d?

>>108072329
that was in like 2010ish for amazon. when they were competing against other cloud providers like azure and google.

in the early 2000s all these companies were far rich already and didnt use nvidia for datacenters it was all IBM/Intel.

>>108072259
got my 5080 for $1200

>>108072351
BLAS have been used since the 70s anon, millitary and scientific research depends on this kind of compute, same goes with rocket engineering, i know it must hard to be a midwit but OPENAI leak and everything that happens with AI is literally a psyops so the public would not lose their mind with the amount of datacenter infrestructure these retards wanted to build.

>>108072340
Not available on my country. I think I'll just go with the 9800X3D and call it a day, it's not like I'm running multiple VMs or dozens of Docker instances every single time. The 9950x doesn't look worth it and the jump to the 9950x3d is too much. And I'm this anon >>108071730.

I am fighting the urge to panic buy a waifu 5070ti ahhhhhhhhh

>>108072374
there is barely a difference between 9800 and 9850 so go with the 9800

>>108072378
Link it

>>108072304
The billions of people who have a gpt5 subscription of course pfft

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>>108072397
it's a ridiculous price but they all cost that now

this is cucknadian dollars

>>108072276
>what happens to the 5070 ti
It's kill. If you can find it for reasonable prices go for it but don't count on new inventory or price drops.
Else get the 9070 XT especially if you only game with it or go Linux. DLSS 4.5 is better than FSR but it's value depends on you.
>future-proof
Only that 5090 barely and it's unaffordable.

go to bed nico

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>>108071991
I'm happy for you

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>>108072413
Incredible, I was thinking about this https://www.msi.com/Landing/mlg-edition-04-gaming-pc when I replied to you but I only had seen the motherboard. Definitely thought the character was nice but the colors are terrible, at least for the motherboard, I really miss waifu GPUs and this does look nice.
It's out of stock on Amazon US and it seems the price was $900 USD months ago before the current situation, so that doesn't look too bad.

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>Newegg puts up a 9850X3D combo that competes with Micro Center
>people praise them
>all cancelled, oops that combo wasn't supposed to exist

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>>108072276
Sorry mate. Anything less than a 5080 would be meaningless.

>>108072461
you would think there would be more waifu parts in general, they seem to be popular and sell out quick

>>108072461
wtf i love msi now

>>108072461
Why is there a chink on it?

>>108072521
quiet, you

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I miss when box art was like this instead of the sanitized souless shit we have had for a long time now.

>>108072565
sovl

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>>108072565
did msi make konata their product director.

>>108071137
go with the 1440p aoc
it's the most balanced option
4k ips is a meme
either save and go oled or don't bother
also if it's just for media you may as well get a 42" or bigger oled tv later, they will most likely be priced considerably cheaper than gaymen oled monitors
and you will still have a high refresh monitor for gaming

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>>108072565
Meanwhile, NVIDIA's own Titan-class Founder's Edition flagship premium boxing in 2025:

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>>108072607

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>>108072612
it's tongue in cheek hilarious that this inefficient housefire is making such a song and dance about offsetting like 0.04% of its carbon footprint with this "eco-friendly box."