>>219017863
I thought there were at least 2?

I'm learning modern Greek and it's so convoluted for no reason, like you need to put an article before a noun EVERY TIME, even tho it's completely unnecessary, like even before first names like Giannis or Maria, and the articles change too based on the noun case, number, gender...

Anyone else listen to the news in their tl?

I really need to force my lazy ass to start reading or start studying grammar instead of watching slop made for natives because I'm barely progressing anymore

>>219018366
>like even before first names like Giannis or Maria, and the articles change too based on the noun case, number, gender...
Ancient greek does this too.

What language goes well with being Canadian?

>>219019468
English
French

>>219019468
Punjabi

>>219019648
There’s none in my area

>>219019468
English
French
Mandarin
J33tspeak

>>219019648
Tussi ki gal karden ho?

>>219018366
I’m convinced languages that drop articles did it right. You can include an article if necessary, but we all know you’re talking about a thing otherwise you’d say x things or “the” thing if it needs to be clarified.

>>219019468
Scottish Gaelic for Nova Scotia. Canada actually remained quite relevant for maintaining Highland and Scottish Gaelic culture as it declined in Scotland. I read a book on Scottish clans from the 1960s and the author remarked how Canadians actually do better at keeping some of the traditions alive than Scots in Scotland. Idk what it’s like now. It’s probably all dead now.

>It somehow looks beautiful somehow looks ugly
Is it an ugly, unnatural sentence in English?

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>learn a language
>quit learning the language because it's not "profitable"
>time passes
>a recruiter from the company you once submitted your CV to calls to you
>"Good morning Anon, I remember that two years ago, during an interview, you said you were learning the language. We're looking for someone fluent in that language for a very good position in the company"
Mfw

>>219018366
Does Greek ignore word order?

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>>219021068
>do an internship for a year at a company that uses a programming language so niche nobody uses it, there's no documentation on it, and I barely learnt it when I was there
>years later get spammed by Indian recruiters saying there's a job going in the Netherlands or some other random country and they saw I know this niche language so I'm suitable

Question:
Is it still true that Russian is the only “useful” Slavic language to learn? Their country is going downhill. Worth it still?

>be unemployed
>learn a language
>be unemployed
funny green frog.jpg

>>219021430
ktim

>>219021284
in 5 years time when you are fluent and the war is over, or isn't an issue anymore because people don't give a shit then you'll be perfectly placed to seize an opportunity.

>>219021284
>Take all Slavic languages
>Ignore all memelangs (under 10 million speakers)
You are left with: Ukrainian, Serbo-Croatian, Polish, Czech
>Ukrainian
Self explanatory, not useful for 99% of people
>Serbo Croatian
Interesting multinational language spoken in both the EU and Russia aligned countries. But their economies are so small as to be nearly irrelevant. However, due to lacking English proficiency, these might be genuinely useful if you want to do business especially in Serbia
>Polish
Probably the most useful other than Russian, but their integration into the EU and development removes the unique advantages of knowing Polish since they are already a very globalised country
>Czech
Same as Polish but even worse since smaller economy and more integrated with the rest of Europe

Conclusion: the most useful Slavic languages after russian are, in order from most to least useful
Serbo Croatian
Polish
Ukrainian
Czech

>>219021630
That war will last forever, so no one will ever like this culture - just propaganda

>>219022013
Thanks - makes me sad since it’s demotivating when you don’t like Croatian and the rest aren’t “wow” either. So it’s either you pick a demonic language that kills people OR you pick one that’s also very hard + no speakers or excessively difficult pronunciation as well. Got it (sigh)

>>219021539
>Kinase tyrosine-based inhibitory motif
alright

>>219022099
>you pick a demonic language that kills people
What a redditfag post

>>219022013
Serbio-cratian and Czech are low-key profitable here in Poland. Many companies register in the Czech Republic, and Serbo-Croatian means access to the EU market and beyond (more or different regulations)
>>219021148
Wish to be coderfag. I would then learn some funny language in my free time because moving to another country and finding a new job would be super easy

>>219021284
just start studying it already holy shit. how long have you been coming here inquiring about russian? you could probably have made some decent progress in that time or found out that the language just isn't for you. next jordie in the making, but worse

>>219022900
learning to code takes less time than learning a human lang

THIS SHITTY SITE SHOULD HAVE A BOARD EXCLUSIVILY TO LANGUAGE STUFF

>>219024075
we can barely keep a single general thread alive

>>219019468
indian languages

>>219020261
>author remarked how Canadians actually do better at keeping some of the traditions alive than Scots in Scotland
...

>>219024094
the guys from classical languages in literature can

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MrPV9_XyJEc
INPUT

>>219023661
But it's easier. Coding requires more effort and intelligence.

>>219024094
to be fair there are 4 different generals, including 2 versions of DJT, one on here and another more active one on /jp/. Combined they should have a higher total post count than /po/, /xs/, /3/, etc, /3/ had years old unstickied threads that only got obliterated because the ipad mini stack gave out or whatever. Also there are frequent stray threads related to language here and on /lit/

>>219024662
>learning turkish
Baffling
>through hoi4 videos
Disgusting

why does "s'en vouloir" mean "to blame oneself"

>>219024797
That's an exaggeration, the majority of software engineers are not the geniuses you imagine them to be.

what are the reasons to learn russian?

what are the reasons not to learn russian?

>>219025571
Why does "put out" mean extinguish? Or you know, the other meaning. Lol.

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Reading the anki dev posts. I'm just scared of change.

>>219024094
That's because of the shitposts on the board. At least it's better than when the board was 80% sojacks or when Schizov was around.

What’s a language you don’t like phonetically (sound of it)?

>>219028306
Korean

>>219026614
Nothingburger

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JazZaWlIThA
videos of girls playing weird indie games... this is peak input...

>>219019468
French
Farsi
Russian/Ukrainian

>>219028374
filtered by ㅊ ㅈ ㅉ

that moment when youre watching something in TL with your non-TL speaker friends and you realise the subtitle translators absolutely BUTCHERED the original dialogue

>>219024131
I know it’s a meme to say stuff like that, but it wasn’t from a meme book. He was referring to how good Canadian clan associations were and how they could be a model for Scottish clan associations. I highly recommend The Clans, Septs, and Regiments of the Scottish Highlands by Frank Adam, revised by Sir Thomas Innes of Learney for anyone interested. Scottish Gaelic had 200,000+ speakers in Canada in the mid 1800s, so it makes sense some of these communities continued traditions into the 1900s.

>>219029166
>subtitle translators absolutely BUTCHERED the original dialogue
This is what I do in my free time. Retards are none the wiser. Mwahahaha.

>>219029104
Why Russian though?

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Why did I decide to learn a language where native speakers talk so FUCKING fast

>>219024162
/lit/ is much slower than /int/ so the clg thread lives longer even when no one bumps it

>>219023005
>>219021284
You can't use me as an example anymore, I have stuck to German for good, kek

>>219035259
We'll see next year

Day 2195:
Patient shows no sign of improvement. The German textbook he bought in 2019 is still plastic wrapped and in pristine condition.

In the boy who cried wolf, the people stopped believing the boy after he said there was a wolf twice and there was no wolf
Jordie has been going at it for like 5-6 years

>>219033333
that's literally every language you don't already know

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>>219018889
yeah but it's depressing
in the Philippines they barely censor dead bodies and the news is just like 24/7 coverage of murders and traffic accidents since the country is mega corrupt so journalists don't cover any politics/economics for fear of getting killed. Pic related is the most popular newspaper in my TL's region

watching French news was fun, but only local news. Stories about some beloved local restaurant closing or about some upcoming event imo are much more interesting and help you really learn more about the culture. The way news is presented, its opinions, and what it focuses on can really tell you a lot about the people who watch it and what they value.

Jordieposting. Why is it so hard to stick to resolutions?
I started learning German and I'm doing worse than when I was learning a different language and I was checking German out of curiosity as a side project. Am I retarded? I think maybe Germanic vocabulary is off-putting to me compared to Romance? I also have a hard time talking to Germans. It's not because of my broken German, because they also seem very alien to me in English. It's hard for me to imagine making friends with a German.

>>219039292
I think new years’ resolutions are usually destined to fail. If you were really dedicated to making big changes in your life, then you would have already committed to those changes without the prompting of a holiday.

>>219040629
Actually, it works with me. I don't fulfill all my resolutions, but I always fulfill at least a few.

>>219038562
Comment trouver les actualités locales ?

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>>219039292
If it's hard, it just means you still haven't found an optimal grip on whatever you're doing. It's tricky because sometimes you need to tinker and experiment, change things up until you stumble on a working path, other times, you just have to stay consistent and patient because you're already doing the right thing, it's just that the effect is delayed or non-obvious, once you make visible progress, it just clicks.

What's the most progress you've made in a language anyway?

English, French, German
Or
English, French, Russian
Which one sounds like a “better” trio?

>>219042018
approach C: tl speaker gf

>>219042162
I hate when people say that...

>>219035259
Jordie, I am from the future. You swap to Japanese in 2027 and actually stick with it for 10 years, after making no progress with German in 2026. You should swap to Japanese now because it is your true calling!

Also watch out for a Red Toyota Helux on August 28th 2026. It will cause your harm if you go near it!!!

>>219042184
Lil bro has no rizz

I need to learn German but starting is just too hard for me.

>>219042089
>English, French, German
Enjoyer of European languages

>English, French, Russian
Suspected Z-tard

>>219042286
How does enemy language = evil?

>>219042286
>Suspected Z-tard
Brainlet take. Also every Ukrainian I know speaks Russian at home.

>>219028306
Of the languages I have heard, Thai sounds the worst.
I weirdly like how Vietnamese sounds though, which people normally call ugly sounding.

>>219042246
Leave me alone

>>219042356
Move to Brazil for easy bunda

>>219042323
>>219042342
This is what the average normie will think if you say you are learning Russian unironically. There is no reason for a native English speaker to touch it, unless you are some edgy retard.

is it normal for me to have a mental block when thinking of things to say o write in my TL 3 weeks in? for the last week, I've been practicing output a lot

>>219042089
English, German, Russian

>>219042401
>>219042342
>>219042286
I support Ukraine and hate what Russia is doing to Ukraine and I think this is retarded. It reminds me of a girl I knew apologising to a jew for knowing how to speak German.

>>219042641
Are you talkative/capable of easily coming up with things to write about in your native language in the first place?

>>219042769
no but I can at least string 5 words together in my native tongue most of the time lol

>>219042401
Average normie is a monolingual beta who doesn't think at all. Only some terminally online redditfag would think that way and I do not care about them.

>>219042759
>It reminds me of a girl I knew apologising to a jew for knowing how to speak German
Objectively hilarious
>>219042987
The cattle stance is that Russia is bad, and anything you do relating to them that is positive is wrong. A lot of normies are of this belief, not just redditfags.

>>219042641
3 weeks into outputting or 3 weeks into learning altogether? If it's the latter then I doubt you'd have the vocabulary to understand 90% of what you want to say, let alone express this yourself.

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>>219043237
>The cattle stance is that Russia is bad
I'm balancing it out by learning Spanish.

>>219042401
Wouldn’t understanding the language of your enemy be immensely beneficial? Normies are retarded.

>>219043774
Exactly what I was going to ask? Also nobody really knows what’s going on in Russia (how bad it’s going) because I bet foreign media don’t know themselves

Also there is much less Russian hate here in the US. The current fad right now is protesting against ICE, the last one was Israel v Palestine. American normies forgot about the Russia-Ukraine war already.

>>219041563
I have a canalplus french subscription I set up with a fake address, vpn, and fake french phone number. Plenty of TV on there for €20 a month, not just local channels. I mostly use it for sports.
France 3 has channels for every region in France, with a mix of regional and national content. For some reason (presumably Corsican nationalism) the France 3 Corse Viastella has way more local content than all the others, some in French, some in Corsican.

https://france3-regions.franceinfo.fr/corse/
I've never used this site but I'm sure with a VPN you'll be able to watch plenty of stuff. Also look up "France 1 outre mer", they have local news content from all of France's current colonial possessions like Tahiti, French Guyana, Guadeloupe, etc.

>>219043869
how terrible. we should bring it back

>>219042089
Russian
>more speakers (roughly 2x)
>lower english fluency (less likely to switch to english)
>less developed literary tradition, less good books
>practically (economically and diplomatically) useless in the west at the moment
>far harder to learn, less material, unfamiliar vocab and complex grammar

German
>most germans will just switch to english if you try talking to them
>historically the books were of higher quality and there are more of them
>germans were into theology which spawned a strong philosophical and linguistic tradition (primarily semetic and other ANE by extension)
>contemporary music and literature is of abysmal quality

Just learn whatever you feel would be more useful for you personally, they both have their own niches and anyone who thinks that certain languages are le evil and therefore untouchable is shallow and not worth speaking to
Do note that the Russian government is currently in the process of herding russians into a state-controlled bubble similarly to China and Iran, a lot of western social media is throttled or outright blocked, tiktok in russia doesn't even let you view the profiles of accounts outside of russia. Though VPN usage is basically universal even with crackdowns and the constant blocking of VPN servers by Roskomnadzor (they're bypassing ISPs and are using DPI for most blocks because ISPs could challenge any orders in court due to them being unconstitutional and unjustifiable lmao)

>>219043774
i mean the US government has an endless supply of diasporafag native speakers at their beck and call if they're ever needed; and doing business with a hostile nation isn't an enviable position to be in to begin with

speak at a B1 level, feels bad man

>>219044448
At this point I might just start both at the same time even if it’s a bad idea

>>219045598
Please stop being such a fat retard for at least 10 minutes. Please go learn tik toki pona please.

>>219044870
Have you considered getting better?

>>219047267
im trying but it is hard
everything is pretty good but i make too many errors

>>219044870
what more could you want then being conversational

fly over to the target language country and enjoy!

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How's the Anki grinding going lads?

>>219048538
Amen, amen dico vobis: quia omnis qui facit Anki, servus est Ankli.

is there a way to make it so apps like xitter or instagram just show me tweets from a specific country or in a specific language? I tried setting my language in each app to my TL and set my country to its country but I still just see english

How do you guys format your sentence cards in anki? I put the i+1 sentences i've mined on the front and mark the unknown word/phrase/grammatical construction. On the back I put the word in lemma form, aspect pair (if it's a verb), definition/translation of the word in my NL and then an audio file from forvo of the word/phrasing in the form that is displayed on the front. It takes quite a lot of time for me now to add cards, around 30 minutes a day to add 15 cards which is almost double the time it takes to review everything. The tricky part is that a lot of the verbs I encounter now are just synonyms to some simpler verb I already know, but with some difference in nuance/tone/usage.

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>>219048538
>13,000 words in my mining deck
>still adding several words a day
The grind never ends. I'll never catch up.

Beginner at Spanish:
Music/tv recommendations? Ideally easy stuff like cartoons
How much will I struggle in Arg/Uru if I have learnt Spanish from Spain?

>>219051728
Don't worry mate, you'll be able to speak English one day

>>219043869
my hate for russians is eternal and enduring

>>219051728
>843 reviews/day
How many cards do you add per day and how much time do you spend reviewing on average?

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A1 Goethe German deck: 900 words

How long would it take me to learn them properly? A month?

>>219052901
I spend about an hour reviewing, which sounds like a lot but it's not that bad if you do it 15 minutes at a time. My main mining deck is settled at about 15 new cards a day. I was probably doing 40 new cards across different decks to get to this point, but now I've got everything except my mining deck set to zero to get the number of reviews down lol.

>>219052785
Based

>>219053670
Are you using FSRS or just plain anki algorithm? 843 reviews at 15 new cards/day seems insane to me as I have like 40-70 per day at 10-15 new cards per day with an 88% retention rate, though I will say you review each card pretty fucking fast lol.

>>219053227
Call it 3 months for safe measure.

>>219054023
Is FSRS better?

>>219054108
I think it's worse for short term retention but the same for long term retention. For me switching to FSRS cut my reviews per day with 50-60% without changing my retention rate so anki no longer takes 2 hours of my day = more time to input

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>>219054031
3 months is too much for my patience

>>219052785
Cringe

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>>219054238
>3 months is too much for my patience
ngmi

How fucked am i if i started learning spanish at like 14 and now i am 19 and only at maybe 50% fluency because of inefficient and inconsistent learning? I could have been twice fluent by now if i didnt waste time on the shittiest apps and wasnt lazy

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>>219054862
I think you're in a good position, actually.
Think about this, you've slowly learned over a long period of time, giving yourself plentiful nights sleep for your brain to process everything. And it probably wasn't much that you learned each day, so each sleep cycle only had a small amount of information to deal with. Now you probably have that knowledge ingrained in you fairly well.
My theory is that those polyglots who speedrun a language in 2 years forget it quickly, because they overloaded their brain and only had 2 years worth of sleep cycles to process it.

>>219055015
Yeah it could be good for retention i guess i notice a lot of the sentence structure and similar base level stuff is very much built into my brain at this point. Its just sad all the hours spent gooning and scrolling could have been spent learning. If i ever get the chance to go back in time im beating the 15 year old me into the hospital

>>219054862
that's not uncommon for teenage language learners who are somewhat unsure of what they're doing, you're fine. 19 is very young and you already know 2 and a half languages (presumably)

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>>219048538
opus procredit, gradum post gradum

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>>219018889
80% of my german input is current event podcasts. I listen to a couple weekly ones about the war in Ukraine too. If formula 1 youtube counts as news, then like 90% of my input is news.

The great thing about the news is the topics are so varied that you learn a wide range of words.

why couldn't the learn x language in 15 minutes a day in 3 months be real...

Spanish is hard

>>219056751
it is just this idiot language that makes spanish difficult. the difficulty you see is but an illusion of an english language brain

>>219055849
hoc equidem mihi, quod homines Anki appellant, taediosum valde videtur. lolerare mihi pote non est, amice! sine obice perditus sum! mihi solummodo iter difficile adest!

Do you put both perfective and imperfective forms of any given verb on your flashcards?

...You *are* learning a Balto-Slavic language, right, anon?

Just realized the OP mega doesn't have conlangs