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DJT is a language learning thread for those studying the Japanese language.
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I just read through an entire section of my eroge without checking a dictionary except in a couple of cases where either I was retarded and didn't understand the meaning or it just wasn't clear for me. I'm nearly at 6000 words and the only times I have to stop to check a dictionary are when there's one or two unknown words I need to look up. Overall I'm quickly reaching a comfortable reading level and I'm happy about that. Hopefully I will hit 10k words in a month but I don't even know if this short eroge will yield so many words.
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>>220596939
Wait 4000 in a month is delusional lmao i will probably take slightly longer but doing 80 on regular days and 150 on weekends will get me there quickly. I don't need to learn many new kanji anymore.
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ママチャリ軍団参上
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>>220600908
がんばれ、気持ち分かるで
オナニーしまくるしかないから
ラップにローション塗ってちんこ摩擦負担無くしてシコるええぞ
感染予防にもなるしな
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Smashing hundreds of words into your head is better than taking it easy and studying at a snake's crawl. Why? Because even if you end up forgetting lots of them in a month, the active recall once you review them again and again will be stronger. When you've done the hard work of memorizing the kanji and readings, it just takes one or two more rounds of review to make them stick in your head.
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不味そうではないし
https://sallysbakingaddiction.com/crumb-cake/
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>>220605531
>寿司ネタとして大人気のサーモン
>中東情勢の悪化を受けて、ノルウェー産など輸入サーモンが値上がりしてます
>そうした中、国産の“ご当地サーモン”が注目されています
https://youtu.be/LR_KcGRJymA?si=8tfS7Dvau0p81hl7
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>>220596939
That’s huge! Keep going~.
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>>220606107
正直、俺もなんでこれで笑えるのかさっぱり分からない
4chanにいるのも英語学習とちょっとした雑談のためであって
笑いとかそういうのを求めてはいない
個人的にはダークユーモアが好きだが、4chanで言ったらすぐにBANされるしな
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>>220602487
>Why? Because even if you end up forgetting lots of them in a month, the active recall once you review them again and again will be stronger.
でもそこが弱点なんじゃないのか。
ankiは遅いから使わないって言ったのは確かイタリアくんだよね、でもああいう間隔反復ソフトを使わずにそんなに言葉数を一日で学ぼうとしたら、逆 に大半忘れちゃうんじゃねえ
このactive recallってどこでする?
>When you've done the hard work of memorizing the kanji and readings, it just takes one or two more rounds of review to make them stick in your head.
これもちょっと理解できない。読み方と漢字の判別が出来た時点ではもうその言葉を完全に知ってるんじゃないか、それとも言葉を学べず漢字とその読み方 を先に頭に叩き込んでるのか
一方ではイタリアくんの勉強の仕方には興味ある、あれぐらいの言葉数を学ぶことができたら今頃ドイツ語にも足を踏み入れることが出来て最高だけど、正 直日本語を学んでから自慢してほしい。
Sorry about the length, I am very jealous of your method if it actually does work as well as you claim, but part of me also suspects you're overselling it.
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>>220612988
投稿できないのはかなりの癪すぎるのだ、外人が投稿許されない理由はわかるけど、直接質問もしてみたい。
私みたいな日本文化に従うことができる外国ネット民が投稿できるjapanese websiteありますか
教えていただきませんか
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>>220613583
このサイト嫌いだけど
>https://bbs.animanch.com/
書き込む前にしばらくlurkしたほうがいい
せめて一週間でも
やっぱお金かかるけどvpn使ったほうが世界広がると思うよ
個人的に5ch好きだしニコニコもまぁ、それなりに使えなくはない
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>>220613312
>but part of me also suspects you're overselling it.
Honestly it works for me. I can read eroge with minimal assistance now. Sure new words keep showing up but they're either abstract terms or formal terms I need to learn and they don't really disrupt the flow. I'm basically frontloading lots of words and letting immersion handle revision. My words just need a little nudge to slide into my long term memory, I see a familiar kanji and look it up on my list. Then boom, my mind connects the dots and retrieves the word I was looking for immediately. I was thinking of feeding words to chatbots and instructing them to reuse them in their output but it's too much work.
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>>220600908
>昨日なんて5回も射精した
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>>220617241
>Explain your memorization method
I mine words and cram them into my head until they stick, then run through them on Anki. For revision I often go through them like this. This way I can ensure my mind doesn't only recognize the words but can actively recall them by translating them from english to japanese. I only ever use Anki to get a whole list of words I need to run through with reverse translation, so I press always easy and let my mind do the recalling job.
>How long do you put in to each word?
These days it takes me like 2 hours to memorize a batch of 80 words. If there aren't any new kanji it's literally a breeze. It's funny how katakana and hiragana words are tougher than words with kanji, but if you tackle them after a while eventually they also stick in your long term memory.
If I scroll back to two months ago I can read around 90% of the words I mined, but I noticed that in some cases some words still leak out of my mind. I should definitely run through my review list again to make sure I'm not burying words. I wish we had a better tool than Anki. Also as I said I'm considering letting AI use the words I frontloaded long ago, it might work if you trick your brain into thinking it's important stuff by chatting with bots.
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>>220618174
>So it really isn't spaced repetition then.
I take short breaks after learning 30 words or when I'm halfway through them, then I read them again after a while. Then again until I can read them flawlessly. That's what I meant.
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>So you're basically just saying that you spend 1.5 minutes memorizing a word
If you know already the kanji + readings then half the job is done, I can associate the words to their meanings right after reading their translation. Since I don't believe I was blessed with a super retention power by the Buddha others who are on my level and beyond will most likely come to back up my claims.
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>>220618519
Frankly I think Japanese is the only language where you can do this. I can't speak for Chinese or Korean, but kanji are definitely a godsend. Notice how I said learning katakana and hiragana words requires more cognitive effort? That's because they have no morphological hooks unlike words using kanji. This is why I dislike when japanese people don't use kanji.
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>>220618742
I mean there's no other way lol, you just need to smash them into your head until you can read them just by glancing at them. 2-3 months of intensive studying will get you there. I'm my 4th month in and I currently know about 1976 kanji.
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>Its crazy that the japanese school system doesn't use this amazing method of just taking 2-3 minutes to memorize a kanji.
Bruh looks like I didn't get my point across. I never said it took me 3 mins to memorize kanji. It takes me a couple of minutes to memorize words whose kanji and readings I already know. Learning new kanji can take from 30 mins to 2 hours for me.
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5959 as of today, including the words I mined for tomorrow.
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>You said 2-3 months will get you 2000 kanji fully memorized.
Yes you can do that if you study intensively every day and are exposed to media all day. I'm not even the fastest learner because I started with 30 words per day and then went with 50. Now learning 50 words a day isn't even challenging anymore so I amped it up to 80 on weekdays. This guy who claims he learned japanese in 6 months basically started with 100 words a day and only used Anki. I'm not even sure where to find his thread.
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>There's no way just looking at them could do that.
It's really that easy, you just hammer them into your head all day every day and eventually your mind will get used to them.
>I deny that anyone short of an autist could perfectly memorize 2000 kanji in 2-3 months
I never denied I wasn't an undiagnosed autism but I just explained how I did it here >>220617505
I won't deny that it was extremely gruesome at the beginning.
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>>220619681
>You were spending all day every day memorizing kanji for months?
I taught english online in the late morning and early afternoon and sometimes went to zadankai meetings in the evening but essentially yeah, that's all I did on my pc and phone all day. I got addicted to learning Japanese.
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I don't know what to tell you, I just got hooked on it. You can learn any language if you have the willpower to persevere every day. I really hate having to wait years to read anything so I dived into visual novels straight away. I used to visualize kanji and use chanting meditation to boost my concentration a lot back then but now I don't even need it anymore.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hGC6-DTeVZE
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>>220631144
ああ、そうですか
ass hole death car
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珍しい英単語
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(∪^ω^) わんわんお!
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>>220584246
ヘイ返事せい
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>>220636669
>ヘイ返事せい
Sorry for the late response.
I was so exhausted from work that I didn't feel like visiting DJT.
>>220584246
>御珍木
>Is that usage common? Googling only gives me results for one フジキ near 琴滝
No, I don't think it's common to write 珍 as another word for ちん in the sense of a penis, but on the Internet, I've seen ちん replaced with 珍 in kanji just for fun several times.
>https://dic.pixiv.net/a/男性器
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