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Monthly Challenge for January: https://files.catbox.moe/son1x9.pdf
10 yards, one handed, 6 shots, no cheating (we'll know).
Guide: https://files.catbox.moe/9g5sv2.pdf
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>>64811017
The bullet doesn't disappear unlike at the range, where there's a sage backstop, and you are liable for destroying, injuring, or killing, whatever it hits.
>>64810959
>carry every day but I haven't gone shooting in five years
Now that I read this thread more carefully, let me bless you, for the very next shot you make, you will hit the target dead on, bullseye. But, for the rest of the magazine you will miss, flinching and adjusting to the feeling of recoil that you forgot. So if you don't go to the range, whatever it is you carry your gun for, settle it with one shot. Good luck!
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>>64811097
If it were me I'd just buy a new gun. But, your other options are buying a whole new slide assembly+barrel or trying one of those conversion barrels. The benefit of buying a separate "upper" would be now you could get a slide optic cut or and still have a spare, if you're into that. Here's a link to the conversion barrels, never seen one IRL but some dude on HKPro said they're alright...
https://efkfiredragon.com/hk-usp-full-size-9mm-conversion-standard-len gth/
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I'm in a quandary fellas. I really want a USP. I always planned to get one in .45 but I already have a 9mm stockpile and I don't want to invest into a FOURTH cartridge because I shoot a lot.
My heart wants the .45, my brain and wallet want 9mm
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>>64811272
Do what your heart wants anon
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>>64811272
What do you want it for? Is it an EDC? You can get away with not having a huge stockpile of ammo for it while doing most of your drills in snapcaps (though obviously active shooting is superior). If its meant to be a gun for target shooting/range fun just get it in 9mm for the cheaper ammo and existing stock.
I shoot a lot of .45 from my Remington R1 but its only because my Dad gave me something to the tune of 1200 rounds of his old target ammo when I bought it.
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>>64808920
> Jaime Bondette
It’s twink bond Reeeeeeeeee
>>64809940
That’s very nice and all but I have his suicide weapon and his WW1 weapon
>>64810225
Look for damaged ones you can repair, especially if they’re just barely not working
Springs are fixable
Bolt stop fixable
Large metal components less so
>>64811453
Give me a little more time pls
I still need to reload more ammo and source broomhandle ammo
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>>64811703
If you have the lifetime warranty that comes with new purchases, and you registered it, it really depends. For example if you have a 5.7 and an issue with the mags they'll basically tell you to fuck off. They'll be more receptive to less common issues with your gun but will generally take anywhere from two business weeks to several months depending on the exact issue you want them to fix.
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>>64812216
I don't think so, but it is still a fantastic and reliable firearm and .45 is still a great and reliable round. But a 7 shot single stack hammer fired handgun is a flat disadvantage compared to even a basic 9mm double stack striker fired handgun like a smith shield or a glock that have room to attach all of the fancy doodads you'd have to do a lot of gunsmithing to mount on your 1911. There are other disadvantages too, like the gun weighing a shitton compared to the other options I mentioned which makes carrying it anywhere except inner waistband or on the shoulder problematic.
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>>64812444
Oh wait I'm dumb, 642 is what I was talking about, not the 442.
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>>64812470
There aren't, no, states like Virginia are basically banking on the willful compliance of the goy masses to disarm themselves of high capacity mags vs becoming criminals for refusal to comply. That said you should keep in mind that until the Assault Weapons Ban expired in late 2004, only law enforcement or adjacent individuals (e.g. private security officers) could possess magazines with a capacity exceeding 10 rounds. We've only had them back in the civilian market for just over 20 years. There's a strong precedent for mag restrictions which is what the most recent wave of state impositions on them have been relying on to bypass the Bruen decision.
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How do you fellas feel about the super safeties situation? We just got some neat ones for a variety of handguns when RareBreed filed their lawsuit
I think there's a lot of pressure to lobby against them because of how they started hurting the boomer transferable market
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>>64812577
If you're interested in that type of thing, you may as well buy your super safety/FRT now because legislation to ban rate of fire enhancing devices is likely. Just accept that you may be made an overnight felon.
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I have 3 Safariland (used LE) holsters for my P220s, 1 Blackhawk Omnivore for when I get an optics cut on one of them.
I'm considering either the Safariland QLS fork, or the G-Code RTI adapter for a QD solution. Pros and cons of each? What is the generally more preferred one? I do see some obviously fake QLS mounts and forks out there so I'm able to avoid them.
Thoughts?
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>>64813259
The 1911 has won more medals of honor than any other handgun in American service. I believe it’s been specifically cited more than any other firearm in military service.
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Most recent acquisition.
Cue the theme from Raiders of the Lost Ark.
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There’s still time to shoot the January challenge, anon… You don’t want to miss out on being in the collage, do you?
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>>64813557
It is just the new-rich/flex coded gun, not black coded. It is the Mercedes-Benz G-wagon of guns
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>>64812540
AWB was crazy in retrospect
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>>64813928
Trigger swaps tend to be pretty reliable unless you install lower power springs (whether TRS or striker). If you do fuck with the springs, expect issues. The Radian stuff seems pretty reliable from what I’be heard, but I haven’t used one irl.
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>>64813935
Yea, it shows how far we’ve come and how you can’t fault the old NRA for not legalizing machine guns and whatever the current thing of the month is.
A few decades ago even permitted conceal carry wasn’t a thing
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>>64813914
The troon carries 20s to throw at its rapist because it doesn't want it's garbage gun tagged for evidence
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>>64813956
I was a kid in the 80s so it blows my mind that this gun legislation gets passed and nobody does anything about it. If my state gets fucked like Virginia is about to be I wouldnt switch to cuck magazines
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>>64814073
Where we are on gun culture and how things have improved, people won’t comply, companies will since getting sued for 10k or more for each magazine they sell is something else. The other thing is carrying an illegal mag gets questionable. Is the extra 5 rounds in a 15 rounder worth the risk from being fucked by the long dick of the law? 10 + 1 and a reload should be enough for self defense, but judging by cop footage is not enough for a gunfight.
I saw something about how the lack of a grandfather clause in VA puts the bill into serious constitutional issues not only due to the 2A but the fact the bill will instantly turn a large number of people into criminals.
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>>64813302
tunnel rats and specops shenanigans aside, drawing a pistol in combat usually means something has already gone very wrong. the 1911 just had the fortune of being the handgat on deck when most of those scenarios happened
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>>64814103
I agree, but the situation with ppanon hyping up his weapons and skill only to fold like wet toilet paper and tell people online about it is very amusing. Deescalation/avoidance is my priority. I'm not handing over my wallet/keys/phone I'd rather deal with a legal shoot situation in my state which has Stand your Ground laws but I wouldn't miss 5 dollars. I also think most people that can be bribed with a few bucks weren't planning on robbing you anyways.
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>>64814129
That's why I default to lethal force if I was to be robbed, anyone that's willing to kill you over small gains may just kill you because they're mad. There's tiers of criminals and muggers are at the bottom with rapists.
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>>64814102
>grandfather clause
>These are too dangerous
>Unless you already owned it
>So it's not too dangerous unless you're shit out of luck and want them after they're illegal
god I fucking hate mag restrictions they make me seethe
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>>64814102
>lack of a grandfather clause in VA puts the bill into serious constitutional issues not only due to the 2A but the fact the bill will instantly turn a large number of people into criminals.
That shit happened in NY and no one blinked.
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>>64814418
A large percent of this country's adults are functionally illiterate. The rest read at something like a 5th or 6th grade level. The most popular American pastimes involve consuming some form of media or getting shitface drunk. Every 3rd person you see in public would contribute more to society if they were ground into biofuel. (not that they should be)
Not trying to be demoralizing, but you can't rely on the average person for anything. Get while the getting's good, and when things change for the worse you have to find ways to quietly navigate around whatever bullshit is put in place.
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>Reading the proposed VA law shit
>Meanwhile, the committee also passed a measure to require anyone with a child in the home to store their guns in a locked container that can only be opened via biometrics, like a person’s fingerprint.
What the fuck? Are they going to pay for all that?
>“Every handgun that is not a pistol has the capacity to have a magazine greater than ten. This is a grab to obtain all firearms or prevent Virginians for having them,” said Senate Minority Leader Ryan McDougle (R-Hanover).
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How do I clean the scratches off of this to make it look brand new? Should I get a brass wire wheel on a drill or hit it with the bench grinder? Tried using Blue Magic and Mothers Mag & Aluminum polish but it isn't good enough.
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>>64813327
You mean like the beretta 9mm that was out at the same time and was scorned for being a piece of shit? lmfao
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>>64814640
>brass wire wheel on a drill
It won't polish, but it is a good idea, I recently took a brass brush to some p365 controls, they ended up decent, even took the brass color, but now it's wearing off. To polish, consider flitz on a buffing wheel instead of brass.
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>can't fault the nra
I know this is sarcasm but just mentioning it makes me seethe. Those faggots are such controlled fucking oppo, we did what they said was "impossible!!!!!!1111!!!!!" in basically ten years.
Anyway, the reason the new gun gets passed in states like Colorado and Virginia is because they are blue strongholds. You might think, "well, some lefties like guns too though?"
But the only states that are currently blue are diehard koolaid drinkers. And nothing, absolutely nothing terrifies the leadership of blue states more than the idea of an armed populace, and you need only look at certain situations across the country right now about exposed fraud - both embezzlement and voter fraud among other things - to understand why they're afraid of being lynched by their constituents.
From my POV, states going all in on gun control all of a sudden are telling on themselves.
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>>64814640
They're probably too deep to remove completely. Polishing stainless is a laborious multi stage process because stainless is pretty hard. A wire brush will just make it look like dog shit don't fucking do that.
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>>64814691
Current NRA maybe is, especially since whoever that CEO was that was stealing all the money but old NRA got us conceal carry permits and then started the long march to the current permitless carry we have in the majority of states. Your graph is their work. Without the old NRA things would be much much worse.
I hate the current ones if that makes you feel better, I was just countering the dogma that they’ve never done anything for us
>>64814652
I was joking, I think the 1911 is one of the greatest guns ever designed. I also don’t consider the 2011 to be a different firearm since so many of the parts are the exact same. I also believe .45 ACP to be mythical cartridge and that it has its roots to the .44 Colt Walker that was the first repeating pistol to see military use (it fired .45 balls through a .44 barrel).
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>>64814758
We only needed permits in the first place because they decided to help compromise our 2nd amendment rights in the first half of the 20th century in the fucking first place. They were founded in 1871 and were the largest proponents of taxes and legislation that specifically targeted gun owners. If they were actually lobbying for what they were supposed to, its unlikely the gca and nfa would have ever actually been passed. The only "good" thing I'd credit them for was lobbying the assault weapons ban to expire in 2004 instead of remaining indefinitely.
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>>64814777
I don’t think you understand how far American culture or gun culture itself has shifted. Just 10 years ago people in the gun community like Hickok45 were arguing for bump stock bans. It’s real easy to blame someone for compromises but the alternative was nothing. As written the NFA would have required all handguns to be 200 dollar tax stamps, the NRA primarily defeated that. It’s all they could have gotten. There was no huge gun lobby. If American gun owners were unsatisfied they could have created their own groups, like they have done recently. Gun and American culture in the early 1900s was very different. Fucking prohibition was passed and ratified as an amendment. Constitutional amendments are an anal process. You love beer? Remember that time when beer was fucking banned federally? Do you think the people rose up and lobbied against it? It was a very long process to pass prohibition and it happened. It would have been impossible for that to happen for gun rights. The average normie doesn’t care about guns, back then they allowed prohibition even when everyone drank. The average normie doesn’t care about guns. But there are a lot more insane radicals who want to overthrow the country for their desired ideology so there’s a lot more gun right extremists these days.
This is a stupid argument, none of us lived through those times but things for guns were very different. The idea that they were for use against the government would have been insane back then considering how docile people used to be to right infringements back then.
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>>64814905
You're a historically illiterate nigger, man. The GCA was passed directly after the coal wars, when laborers all across the country went on strike before ultimately retaliating against violent crackdowns against them with armed revolts, one of the most famous cases being the Battle of Blaire Mountain, where the national guard used white phospherous and mustard gas on American citizens. And not to mention the race riots and the retaliation that was happening all throughout the 40's and 50's that culminated in the infamous Detroit riots.
The idea of guns being used to resist authority was not at all out of pocket. Those infringements happened because it came to pass on multiple occasions and then most of the men who were off the mind that it was necessary got shipped off to go die in europe and the pacific.
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>>64814905
>the average normie doesn't care about guns
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wow guys we should all suck the fucking nra's cock for, at the best of times, fucking us gently instead of fucking us until our ass bled
gee what a great org, so much better than all of these other ones accomplishing things like constitutional carry and coming within spitting distance of completely deregulating suppressors in just a few years
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>>64814997
You mean communist Marxist insurrections, people were very scared of a Marxist revolution in America hence the GCA and the acceptance of brutal crackdowns
Interesting you do not reference the Battle of Athen’s Tennessee, the one that wasn’t a Marxist revolution where veterans of ww2 overthrow a corrupt government/police force. Notably the guns used were taken from a local national guard armory since they didn’t own their own guns. Back then a lot of people did not own guns and if they did it was for hunting and home defense.
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>>64814905
>The average normie doesn’t care about guns.
I don't know what rock you're living under, but I'm here to tell you that literally everyone has guns now. Soccer moms have slimline Glocks in their Tahoes. Techbros are into 2011s. Poorfag retail workers are carrying Caniks in amazon holsters. Every LGS in my area is packed with normies from all walks of life on the weekends.
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>>64815015
The NRA didn’t fuck us, the people who write and pass these bills do. Gee why didn’t they stop it? It’s all their fault, not the authoritative government the people elected (did they really elect them? Voter fraud has been a thing for a long time).
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>>64815026
A very recent development, as several crises recently have made everyone more open to the idea of not relying on someone else for safety. Things are good and my outlook on the 2A is optimistic, but things used to be very different
Just 15 years ago it was a real possibility of a another AWB
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>>64815024
>You have to pay us in legal tender, you're not allowed to work us to death like slaves, you also shouldn't be allowed to buy up all the utilities and businesses in town and refuse to provide services unless we agree to your bizarre pseudo-slavery scheme
>LE GASP, you're all communists! Get 'em boys!
>*uses chemical weapons on your wife and children lol*
waoh, such patriotism
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>>64815024
>back then a lot of people [headcanon]
I didn't want to go on a diatribe of every event supporting my argument of which there were many. I also think it's telling that you think people revolting because they were being effectively enslaved - and don't try to worm out of this, the fair labor standards act and national labor relations act among others already determined that it was - by big corporations. If you think its Marxist to think your employer should respect your basic human rights, has to actually pay you instead of give you an IOU voucher for the company store, and isn't allowed to deny you time to use the rest room, eat lunch or drink water within reason and shouldn't be allowed to use private mercenaries to slaughter you if file a grievance or complaint then you're actually delusional.
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>>64815032
>Your honor, I didn't rape her, I just asked her rapist to rape her softly and got in a little action - consensually - after the fact. It was consensual because while she was crying I told her that it would have been way worse if I wasn't there and that she owed me sex.
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>>64815032
My guy, those faggots have spent my entire life bitching about how all the things we've accomplished recently "just aren't feasible"
"be realistic anon"
"lower your expectations, be happy with what you have"
go shill your shit else where you quadruple nigger, fuck the nra, this post by the goa gang
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>old fuck boomer supports the nra and thinks that its okay when corpos hire international communists - sorry, I mean "partisans" lol like allan pinkerton and co. to massacre american workers en masse for refusing to submit to communist labor cam - sorry, i mean "company towns" and "american communists" lol
JEJ
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Looks like I've been missing out on some real top quality handgun discussions in my favorite general thread on the internet, the handgun general. I just came here to say I bought 2 suppressors and am very excited to get them. Also I just found all the pokemon cards I had as a kid thrown in a ziplock in a drawer at my parents house. $2k I wasn't expecting is a nice chunk of change.
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>>64810882
I bought a Kimber K6s DAO 3" I'm in commifornia so I pick it up in a week. I looked it over and is was made in New York so it's not their new factory. I know about replacing the firing pin with the TK customs one. Is there anything else I should change on it or look out for? It seemed good when I looked it over in the shop. I'm pretty excited, I was considering the K6xs but the k6s was just a little bit more, also considering getting the DASA model too
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Visited the local office store to scan another set of copies after a disastrous first attempt but I'll be sure to exploit the lack of time limit and fire extra slow to ensure accuracy. The first rounds will be with Federal cartridges leftover from previous range trips and this odd PMC that I found on the floor from who knows where or when [in case of a squib, there's wooden rods in my range bag]
>>64813849
>still time to shoot the January challenge
Better believe it, come hell or highwater!
>>64814118
>my state which has Stand your Ground laws
You still have to keep your story straight lest you end up like Michael Drejka of Florida or Daniel Perry of Texas: convicted of homicide in a "stand your ground" state after foolishly speaking to investigators instead of remaining silent and demanding a lawyer
>>64814905
I'm old enough to remember the proliferation in 2012 but nothing compares to the FOMO that spread faster than Wuhan-19 and the race riots
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Anyone here tried a houdini holster? Not sure if worth the price.
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>>64814543
See? Aren’t you so happy that the Younkin anointed Earl spent most her add budget on the troooons? Sure this 2a derangement syndrome and gerrymandering comes after the dims won the biggest majority in 50 years but at least it felt good during the campaign didn’t it? And that’s what matters. Feeling good and being performative.
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I love the 1911. Hello all 1911 chads
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This is mine
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>>64815485
The MP series is a fantastic gun with a lot of high quality features packed in for a very reasonable MSRP. The only problem is if you want to get their 5.7, avoid that one. 10mm, .45 and 9mm are all excellent.
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>>64815500
Depends. My suggestion if you're not sure is to get it unported and if you feel like you need the extra recoil control, buy a threaded barrel (or get an m2.0 with a threaded barrel out of the box) so you can attach a compensator. That's what I did.
I think the ported barrel is worth it for anything over 9mm though.
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>>64815307
Never heard of it. Gimmick doesn't look interesting, it's not like there's any issue with drawing a gun from a kydex holster that otherwise has no retention. On another hand, it's not like it is overpriced, as long as $70 is all including the claw.
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>>64816907
The p365 is probably better but lacks that je ne sais quois. Maybe its cuz the base model P320 is way drippier compared to ugly ass P365 base and the P320 still retains that old P series look somewhat.
The aftermarket for P320 looks so bad ass its made me invest tons of money into a potentially unsafe flawed gun
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>>64815485
>piece of shit prodigy
Explain?
>>64817045
It's subjective, there are a lot of excellent options under $550. I'm partial to the S&W M&P M2&0 and PDP, they both have great texture, the PDP has an excellent trigger and the M&P is very soft shooting like a Glock
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>>64817068
No thanks
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>>64817070
There isn't anything better over that as far as I know. The VP9 is not a better gun because it includes the HK tax
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>>64817045
PPQ Tac
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>>64817091
*But forget about price, look at the options
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>>64817114
lol, you keep asking about the VP9, why do you seemingly want to be told that the VP9 is good?
If you ask around here, the three best polymer guns on the market are the Glock, the M&P, and the PDP. Choose the one you think looks the coolest.
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>>64817114
I shouldn't answer because I haven't so much as handled the A1.
But I had an older one, which I can compare to my M2.0: the M2.0 was quite softer shooting, had a substantially better grip texture and cheaper mags. The VP9 had a better trigger back then but the new M2.0s have improved triggers now likely as good or better than a VP9. If they were the same price it would be close enough not to matter. But they're not, heck you could get an M&P Metal for what the VP9A1 costs now it's crazy. Back when they were $450 it was whatever because it was a cheap gun built cheaply but now they're charging premium money for it
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>>64817328
Inside of me there are two wolves: one is Burt and one wants to buy a USP in 45 with all my heart. This has been a constant struggle for years and I am unironically grateful that you've prevented me from making a foolish financial decision
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>>64817359
No. The thread protector had kind of tapered ends and the barrel had a reduced shank shoulder that basically became a wedge when you install the thread protector, there was no hard shoulder. Eventually it split. It was a dumb design, the thread protector should have a flat face on each end to mate with a flat face shoulder on the barrel like literally everyone else does
>>64817369
HK is only a good buy if you score that deal of the year and get one mighty cheap. That's the only way I ended up with any HKs lol
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>>64817396
It was a joke bro because Burt is a beefcake. I'm not familiar with SP5s at all, does the brass hit aluminum? Brass is harder than aluminum and several of my ARs have dented brass deflectors. Can't relate on HK quality issues, I only have one and it seems solid so far a couple thousand rounds into ownership.
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>>64817428
Seems to me you could put an o-ring on that shoulder and it would help retain the thread protector and keep that from happening when you torque it down. I agree with anon that going monkey mode tightening it so that it won't come off will eventually break it because of that design, it is thin and has a ton of stress concentrations (the knurling) after all.
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>>64817109
We can deal with the ones that snap, let the peaceful faggots be
>>64817202
When there's another desert war, maybe, but for now pistols are going to be black and gray
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>>64817428
Ouch. Tightening it down much will definitely eventually crack that, it's expanding itself with the threads.I might try what >>64817438 said and put a thin high temp o-ring on mine because it looks like it butts up against a ledge like that too.
>>64817439
Must be really thin or soft steel. Good thing I have no interest in paying thousands of dollars for a neutered MP5 because it doesn't sound like I would like having one.
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>>64815485
Welcome to the club brother
>>64817065
I've been trying to sell mine for over a year now :( buy it
>>64817092
I have a navy one and I really don't like it. No optic cut and the sights aren't suppressor height. What was the fucking point of that Walther?
>>64817118
They absolutely do the exact way that anon is saying. Look at the statistics, if you're gay you were wayyyyy more likely to have been molested/raped as a child. I knew a guy whose gay friend once casually mentioned they had a religion kink because a catholic priest diddled them.
>>64817273
The M&P is now Ben Stoeger approved. I haven't watched the video yet but the title is saying he likes it.
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>>64817476
You shouldn't be worried about the finish appearance on guns you actually use... Sounds like HKboomer collectorism has started to infect you. The mild wear spots on my only HK are a badge of honor if anything because most of the ones I see look like they have never been fired.
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I am really loving the feel of the Bodyguard 2.0. It's my first ever gun, and hasn't even had live ammunition in it yet. I supplemented snap caps to practice loading, discharging, and handling my firearm.
Going to the range soon to shoot my very first gun for the first time. Do I need a case to be allowed in? I ordered a small-ish range bag, since I feel like the range does NOT want people brandishing unloaded firearms in their parking lot or lobby. Will that be enough to safely bring my firearm to the range without getting in trouble? I know it's a retarded question but desu there's a lot of rules I'm still familiarizing myself with that I don't want to break.
Here's the Bodyguard 2.0 next to my keyboard. There's a ten-round mag loaded with dummy bullets as well.
>Nervous, cause im retarded
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>>64817499
Just because I don't mind wear marks doesn't mean I don't like my guns nice and clean, I clean after every range outing. What sort of finish do you expect to show no signs of wear where brass is smacking it thousands of times? Some people complain that the finish on the top of the breech wears off as it rubs against the slide of their handguns. I don't care what finish you put on that, it's going to show wear. I guess TiN might wear well, but it'll still wear.
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>>64817500
The amount of rules completely depends on the range. A bag is always a good idea. Keeps your:
>gun
>mags
>ammo
>earpro
>timer
>tape/staple gun
>etc. etc.
all in the same place. If you're going to some anal retentive range, you should probably case your gun separately then put it in the bag.
Also stop worrying, you'll be fine
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>>64817547
Word, thank you guys. So, basically, I can unload it, put it in the bag, and just let them know I have my firearm (unloaded) in the bag and I want to follow the rules, is it cool to book some range time, etc. Thanks for letting me know. My place seems pretty lax, but I don't want to cause an incident by spilling my spaghetti
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>>64817500
Great. I'm sure you'll fit right in.
To answer your question, a soft case is the way to go unless you plan on wearing it holstered. I'm sure it came in a box, just toss that in your range bag or pick up a soft case for ten bucks. You'll need to bring ear and eye pro as well. Don't bring drinks or snacks. Print and bring your own targets or pay extra for them at the range. Take your time shooting at your own pace and enjoy yourself. Once you do decide you're comfortable enough to carry the gun, be sure to run a box or two of your chosen carry ammo through it to be sure your gun will function properly with it.
Bodyguard 2.0 looks really nice. I've heard nothing but good things from people who own them and I had fun dry firing one at the store.
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>>64817586
You're already ahead of a good amount of people they're going to see at the range on a daily basis. A somewhat nervous but attentive newbie is much preferable to some porch monkey shooting the ceiling with his Draco.
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>>64817586
They'd rather you ask for help if you're clueless than cause a safety issue. At least, that's how my first LGS job was almost 20 years ago.
>>64817569
Forgot about DLC. My watch has a DLC coating on it, it has held up really well to years of daily wearing, but it still has a few spots where it has been worn through. I occasionally smack it on the corner of a wall or desk as I walk or it will hit the ground when I forget to take it off before doing some work. Regardless, a gun is a machine, it will show wear. Wear can be beautiful in its own way.
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>>64817273
The VP9A1 is a great gun that I will say is worth it in the end, but it is vastly more cost effective to get the regular VP9 used and then get the trigger from the vp9a1 from HK themselves. The A1 series is the "I don't want to upgrade it myself" version of the regular vp9 that I would say is comparable to the shadow systems/glock, but without any issues shadow systems has.
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>>64817890
Vertec is the same as any other full-size
Compact/centurion need shorter slide rails
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>>64817500
Double up on ear pro. Wear foam earplugs on the inside, and overear muffs on the outside. You’ll thank me later.
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I'm the anon who has the Bodyguard 2.0. Is it common for a firearm to rattle sometimes? I notice when I rack it and it "sticks" (not sure what that mode is called where the guns foreskin is peeled back), if I get it racked the right way no ratter.
>>64817943
Much appreciated. I bought a good pair of "ear bud" style shooting protectors, but I think I'll double up like you said. I love music too much to lose it
t. Boards of Canada #1 fan world wide
>>64817621
Thanks! I'm looking forward to it
>>64817588
Damn fuck anon, I really appreciate this insider advice here. Is it possible to have my own targets printed (and bring them in) at like a print shop? I'd love to have like silly stuff on there.
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>>64817978
>Is it common for a firearm to rattle sometimes?
Yes
>I notice when I rack it and it "sticks" (not sure what that mode is called where the guns foreskin is peeled back), if I get it racked the right way no ratter.
The SLIDE is locked back. Nigga I don't know if you're trying to be funny or if you're really a brainlet but come on bro RTFM
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>>64817978
>Is it possible to have my own targets printed (and bring them in) at like a print shop? I'd love to have like silly stuff on there.
Absolutely. Go nuts.
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I hate how expensive ammo can be and that feeling of regret shooting ammo that should be stockpiled
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>>64816310
Sorry, never used it, best I could give you is an educated guess, knowing it has a higher bore axis than an MP that it's going to not feel as good to shoot and the magwell is going to make it harder to CC.
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>>64817995
Nothing yet. It has yet to have live ammunition fired through it. Any recs tho?
>>64818009
Can I have... anything printed on a target like pic related? It haunts me and I need to kill him.
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>>64817978
>not sure what that mode is called where the guns foreskin is peeled back
Keked, but yeah, in recoil operated guns when the slide is locked back, the barrel isn't completely locked, it will rattle. Please watch a single YouTube video or read the manual to find out what parts of the gun are called. Like, not to the level where you can tell which is which between side lock and slide stop, but at least that you don't call slide foreskin and barrel crown a glans, ok.
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Not even chinkshit is free of the lawyer text.
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>>64817273
Burt have you tried the Apex trigger on the m&p? I just got an m&p and while the stock flat faced trigger is pretty good, I’ve heard a lot of mythical things about the Apex. As a 1911 guy I’m wondering if its a massive improvement to the m&p and if it would bring it significantly closer to feeling like the 1911 trigger
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>>64818109
It's because they're compliant with US laws and everyone needs to have fuckhuge warnings about batteries because grown ass adults are too retarded to keep batteries away from children. Chinkshit is absolutely immune to these laws and regulations.
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>>64817978
Yes most guns especially polymer striker fired have some rattle to them. I also don't know how much your range charges for 380 but you may want to buy some online or from a store where it's reasonably priced because some ranges will absolutely rape you and charge double what you can get it for online.
Also make sure to tip your range safety officer
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I attempted the pistol qual today and I realized that I need more practice with my handgun. and maybe attempt it when it's warmer than 4° so I can actually hold still. I'll try again on Saturday.
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>>64818292
Which qual? The 9/25 one?
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>>64818157
Ya, it improved my old M&P's trigger a LOT, but it took a lot of fiddling to get it where I want it and working right. It's very light with the springs I have (idk which), maybe 3 pounds. There is a good wall, about 1mm of creep with very little to no overtravel. Significantly closer to a 1911 than it was for sure, though not exactly there
However when the M2.0s came out, the trigger was improved enough that I didn't bother with Apex on that. And now they're 2-3 trigger iterations beyond even that, they're pretty good already. Apex should take it higher than the level of a good PDP, perhaps close to Walther's Dynamic trigger.
Take with a little grain of salt, my Apex CAEK is an early one and they may have improved it since 10 years ago, it could be better or worse now idk
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>>64818479
Yeah and everyone making fun of Ppanon and pastebin doesn’t help.
but people only make fun of those two since they overstate their shooting abilities and have been very annoying. Both of them caused people trying to flee to other generals
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>>64818566
>cops during a peaceful traffic stop when your Sig P320’s shake awake activates and UDs in your glove box
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>>64818577
Sig raped you lol
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Just got my first handgun. I wanted reliable and the old guy at the gun store said this was the most reliable I would find. I wasn't so sure because it has a plastic grip...
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>>64818637
I liked it and I want more
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If the 92 isn’t wide enough for you, Herrett’s has just the thing for you
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>>64818766
Needs to be bigger, I want to palm it like a basketball
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>>64818701
I already bought a big box of .45 auto online. I don't really think anyone around here gives those courses so I'm considering booking one that I have to travel for. I just don't want to have to fly somewhere with it.
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>>64818577
>pic
Remind me why they did that when they needed untainted human stock with which to repopulate the continent?
>>64818651
Neat
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>>64818249
>Also make sure to tip your range safety officer
I'm the BG 2.0 anon -- is this real? Or a meme like tipping the gym front staff from /fit/
Thanks for the tip. Is $30 for 50/rounds of FMJ good? That's what I paid -- I just wanted to have some training rounds. I think I paid $36 for 20/rounds of hollow point for when I'm ready to carry.
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I went to a local upscale range.
As soon as I got out of my Honda they were laughing at me. I thought the laughter died down as soon as I pulled out my Nighthawk case out of my trunk but as soon as got to my stall and opened it they all started laughing hysterically, they were only catching their breath. One guy was laughing so hard he was rolling around on the floor and knocked over the brass goblin’s bucket.
The RSO came over and asked if I had my EBT card to pay for the lane, the lunch lady at the buffet gave me an extra chicken tender so I wouldn’t “go hungry” that night.
A guy with an SVI INFINITY moved to the lane next to me and didn’t even say anything he just smirked as I jumped whenever his open gun shooting 9mm Major’s muzzle blast would knock over my paper targets on the table. I was so nervous I could barely group since I was shaking so much. It got so bad I fumbled a draw and dropped my nighthawk on the floor, it went off, and everyone laughed. The RSO told me not to pick it up and that the garbage man would take care of it. I have never felt so humiliated
The range janny came over in the Zamboni and picked up my nighthawk for me, he wiped it off and then got the CLP spray bottle and ruined the finish not knowing Nighthawk’s black nitride is very cosmetically fragile. I know he was just trying to be nice on the worst day of my life but it literally could not get any worse.
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I thought this was a Heckler & Koch fanatic but the bottom of the frame reads "HELLO KITTY"
>>64818292
Yeah, Glocks are harder to use without an optic
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>>64819244
Checked
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Thinking about it and looking at the crack, the lens probably cracked from an ammo box with ~400-500 rounds .45 ACP in on falling on the optic
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does this exist irl?
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>>64819662
https://www.surefire.com/news/?p=the-terminator-laser-45
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>>64819913
Sure, I guess, if you're willing to do a lot of the work yourself or drop five grand for someone else to do it for you. I think airsoft also sells their own version if you just want a display piece for your gun instead of a functional laser to shoot with
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best enclosed red dot for a microcompact?
>inb4 >red dot >compact
Should I just get the romeo x?
>inb4 homosun
I would, but their footprint requires me to either have my slide milled or get a plate, which prevents cowitnessing.
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>>64820284
>EPS core
>rmsc (not k)
zased
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>>64820346
I have no fucking clue what you're talking about. Grip angle? Did you reply to the wrong post? I'm buying a core when I can because it's a better fit on a subcompact, no other reason.
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>>64820357
Take your pills, anon. You're all over the place. None of that has anything to do with grip angles. It's a better fit for a subcompact (most are RMSc cut) because it doesn't require an adapter plate and it has a narrower base.
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>>64820363
How is your bigger glass optic better objectively then?
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>>64820363
I'm not >>64820346 just pointing out, EPS core not for micro compact better, EPS carry does. Core has a bigger window.
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>>64819179
Bummer, that. I got the Wiley Clapp edition for that way back when. I guess they used to be cheaper.
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>>64818868
Yeah it's like that meme. 30 isn't great but it's fine (my range charges 40 for a box of 50) as it's gonna let you get practice in. Use ammoseek and sort by free shipping in the future and that should keep your 380 under 15 for a box of 50.
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>>64820381
Sure, yeah yeah the window this the window that. Window window window. That isn't why I want one or what I think makes it better than the EPS carry for a subcompact though, it's the footprint, like I said before. The EPS carry needs a plate on most subcompacts (which are RMSc) the EPS core does not, and the base is narrower so it doesn't stick out past the slide as much at the mounting point. I'll post a pic comparing the two when I get one, they're out of stock everywhere though.
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>>64820767
I'm probably switching to the EPS core from RMR HD and intend to put a AEMS macro on a bear gun. Pretty stoked for these optics. They're out of stock because they aren't being sold yet. On distributors they're listed as coming soon.
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>>64820767
>the EPS carry needs a plate on most subcompacts
No it doesn’t. The difference between the Holosun k and Shield RMSc is that the k removes two recoil bosses. This means that it’s one-way compatible, you can mount k footprint optics like the EPS Carry directly to RMSc mounts, but not RMSc optics to a k-footprint gun (if anyone made such a thing). EPS Carry direct mounts to the P365/Hellcat/most everything else with an RMSc footprint.
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A bullet can trace in sunlight [upper left corner]
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>>64820936
No, that's backwards, anon was right. RMS (four 1.7mm holes) will fit on a K footprint (two 1.3mm lugs). K (two 1.3mm holes) will not fit on a true RMS footprint (four 1.7mm lugs) because it doesn't even have four holes, and the two it does have are half depth
Some manufacturers cheat the footprint, split the difference, or have plates for both, but most guns are the four lug RMS footprint and thus need to be modified to fit an EPS or K
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Don’t really love my EPS Carry 3bh. It’s okay, but I only got it because it was shilled to me by people like Humble Shartsman and Hop, whom I esteemed before I knew any better.
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>>64821053
I don't know what the P365 cut looks like, but if it's actual Shield spec, you'll need to grind the two rear lugs flush and file down the front lugs to about half height.
I was mixing up the K and EPS--K is only 0.9mm deep not 1.3mm
>>64821064
Why you don't esteemed them now? Neither is untrustworthy
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>>64821081
It's not that they're untrustworthy per se, it's just that their opinions don't really mean much to me/are not very reliable predictors of how I'll feel. Shartsman said that green blooms an astigmatism less, and $350 bucks later I get mine and discover it makes mine worse. Hop said that the EPS carry has less distortion than a 509T, but that hasn't been true in my experience, etc.
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>>64821101
Astigmatism is super personal, I've also learned not to trust any advice or suggestions about which is better for what, and I view such suggestions with extreme skepticism. So lesson learned I guess lol
In my experience the EPS is less distorted than my 509T, less green too, idk maybe that's down to manufacturing eccentricities? Or generations maybe? I did a distortion test on my optics and the 509T was one of the worst so just about anything SHOULD be better
But maybe I have a bad one and you have a good one
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>>64821101
>Shartsman said that green blooms an astigmatism less, and $350 bucks later I get mine and discover it makes mine worse.
That's your fault. Astigmatism can be better or worse depending on color for different people and if you had spent 2 minutes in a gun store comparing display models or doing an internet search instead of just listening to a guntuber you would have known that.
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>>64821158
>Just do an internet search bro
Oh, but I did. They all said that the human eye picks up green easier and at lower amplitudes, and so you can crank a green dot less and still see it, ergo it’s better for astigmatism.
And yet…
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>>64821172
Ok fuckstick. I did it for you, and the first result
is someone saying red works better for them. So admit it, fess up. Your google-fu is weaker than your granny's pimp slap, and you're a retard who just impulse bought based on a guntube video.
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I'm happy i got my G43x optic milled for a K footprint instead of buying an MOS. Seems like K ended up winning the footprint wars.
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>>64821172
For me it's red, large, at low brightness. I imagine most people here would say the same
ymmv, won't know till you try is the lesson, you can read forums going back 20 years where people go back and forth nuh-uhing each other ad nauseum about it and know there isn't one objective solution for everybody's ligmatism.
I hope others see this and don't buy into the _blank_ is better for _x_ meme
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I shall never mistake the map for the territory…
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>>64821223
you are one stupid motherfucker. Maybe print my first post out and shove it up your nose so it gets closer to your brain? >>64821158
>if you had spent 2 minutes in a gun store comparing display models or doing an internet search instead of just listening to a guntuber you would have known that.
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>>64821196
For me it's red, all the brightness, so the streaks converge enough for me to make out a "dot".
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>>64821225
Okay, so you again admit that your "just do a google search" shtick isn't a substitute for actual knowledge, and that your entire worldview is a vague simulacrum imposed upon you by faceless entities over the internet. Got it.
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>>64821231
You stupid fuck
1. guntuber says green better
2. google search says red better
3. you observe different reports and try it yourself
But instead you just stopped at step one and bought and now you're pretending you're smart.
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>>64821235
Hey, so you're doing the thing where you're moving the goalposts, and then lashing out at your betters for pointing that out. First you said to not accept the opinions of random guntubers as gospel, and then you instruct people to accept the opinion of google as gospel, and now you're saying that you HAVE to have firsthand experience with the item in question to make informed purchases. So, which is it?
What if the purchasing criterion was "how does the optic perform after 10000 rounds?" What if it was "how does the optic perform at freezing temperatures?" What if it was "how does the optic perform under direct sunlight?"
None of those are testable by simply handling the item in question at a gun store. Where does your advice now lead us? What would you have us do?
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>hurr durr u can't do a full test at the gun store
You say none of these things is testable at the gun store but do you know what is? How much better or worse for your astigmatism green is vs red. You can pick it up in the gun store and at first glance know immediately if the red or green is worse. I know this because I have astigmatism so I tested out red and green before buying to see which is better. For me, it's red by a longshot.
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>>64821271
>You can pick it up in the gun store and at first glance know immediately if the red or green is worse.
Not necessarily, no. For me, the difference between a slightly starbursty green dot versus a slightly starbursty red dot isn't super apparent, especially under florescent lights indoors. It's only when you really crank the power against a bright white surface, or look at the over-bright dot in dead darkness, does the difference become apparent.
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These anons arguing about red or green dots is why I'm going with gold dots for all my future optic purchases.
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>>64821299
>It's only when you really crank the power against a bright white surface,
And why can't you do that in the gun store? If they'll let you finger fuck it, they'll let you turn the brightness up. For me it was as simple as picking up a vortex that had a switchable red or green dot, pointing it at the wall, and hitting that button a few times. It was pretty obvious that green was worse.
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>>64821346
>And why can't you do that in the gun store?
Because, to my eyes, the difference is minor, and wouldn't even necessarily persist from individual model to model. Again, if we're being hardline "YOU HAVE TO TRY IT IRL BEFORE BUYING" retards, then you have to the exact optics in question, in all conditions. That's not always feasible.
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>>64821357
So the smearing is bad enough for you to complain that you were tricked into buying green on 4chan, but it's so minor you don't notice it in a gun store? Sounds like you just need to stick to iron sights because your eyes are all kinds of fucked up.
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>>64821369
No, more like I was expecting, or hoping for, various benefits that never really materialized after a few years of owning the thing.
>you should stick to iron sights
No thanks.
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>>64810882
Another one for the collage