>>64821324
>slide and barrel begin to move before b00let exits the gun
mechanical accuracy bros... where do we go from here...

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I hope that striking the border doesn't result in a dq, this was the best I could do

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>>64821340
uhhhhhhhhhh

I've been enjoying my .357 but now I want a 22lr revolver. Which one is the one that is less likely to break over time? I want a really tanky and reliable one cause I'm a european and getting spare parts here is often an hassle. (when my SW686 broke it took 6 months for a spring to be shipped from the US)

>>64821354
NTA but doesn't the gap between chamber and bore affect mechanical accuracy there?

>Best option for direct mounting to American made handguns is a Chinese Red dot
Trijijew wake the fuck up

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>>64821340

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>>64821324
>Trusty .45
Hell yeah!

>>64821372
Yes, slightly. Shooting rounds with lower OAL than the cylinder (as in shooting .38 Special in a .357 Magnum gun) also causes freebore, which can hurt accuracy.

>>64821324
>springfield has loose lock up
Fitting, that their barrel fitting sucks

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>>64821372
The coradiality, timing, runout, and diameter tolerance in the cylinder are far more important than the .003" gap between the chamber and the forcing cone. Regardless, mechanical accuracy of handguns is a non-issue because the shooter is always going to be the limiting factor, even with a cheap off the shelf gun like this one. All of the most precise handguns have this configuration though, fixed barrel with a bolt. You can spend the price of a new car on the most high end custom big name big boy pistol you want and it will never come close to the precision of one of those goofy small bore competition guns if you put them both on a rest, nor would you out-shoot the small bore competition shooter if you switched guns with him

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Wouldn't have to worry about mechanical accuracy with something like picrel, we have the technology...

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this one seems different

>>64821364
I've greatly enjoyed my Ruger Wrangler. It has only been on the market since 2019 but the reviews for it have been stellar.

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>>64821417
>>64821429
>automatics
Step aside, sons. Real luddite shit coming through.

>>64821429
I'm a big faggot for the 1907, love it dearly. I would so love to build one of these from a clapped-out 1907.

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What is this gas ejecting out of the breech/barrel hood lockup? Is that propellant? How did the propellant get around the casing, when it hasn't ejected yet? Did it just go around it?

>>64821463
Truth is there has never been a perfect gas seal with firearms even in the days of blind bores because of the flash holes necessary for priming.

>>64821490
So that's propellant coming out of the primer pocket? Makes sense.

>>64821490
>>64821495
wait a minute, so if i shoot ammo that have sealant applied (like Federal HSTs), that stuff might get into the magazine and the firing pin chamber?

>>64821444
checked

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>day two of not having an ice-cold Adolf's Banquet Beer
>suffering
Not really, but can't wait until next Friday night with the boys.

Which .45 pistol would you recommend, if I use the largest backstrap on my Glock 17?
I already held a Glock 30 and it felt good, but I'm open to look at other Manufacturers before I decide.

>>64821564
P220

>>64821564
Try to fingerbang a USP Compact in .45 ACP

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Good day is good day

>>64821699
Always nice as usual to see you brother

>>64821438
>>64821324
I've been fucking lied to. Bullseye bros always told me the recoil doesn't occur until after the bullet leaves the barrel.

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>>64821742
>recoil doesn't occur until after the bullet leaves the barrel
take high school physics, nigga

>>64821564
HK 45c is the most superior option by far.

If you want something huge and old but cool, p220

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Guys I guess I'm just saying my concern is that it looks to me like the P320 might actually fire 9mm bullets on its own and do so quite dangerously with deadly harm.

>>64821564
For what purpose? This is crucial information. If you're going to be carrying it, just get the Glock, everything else is bigger or has less capacity.

Is it a range toy? Get a 1911. There is zero point in buying anything retarded like an HK45, Mark 23, FN545, FNX unless you want THAT SPECIFIC GUN. They are huge and are nowhere near as nice to shoot as a good 1911. Same goes for old sigs, smiths, etc, if they're single stack they go in the trash, just get a 1911. Why? A good 1911 will have a better trigger than literally any other .45 pistol, regardless what a Mark 23, HK45, USP, P220, etc fanboy says, even a mid range 1911 has a way better trigger and is more enjoyable to shoot.

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>>64821699
The white and black is so kino

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Tomorrow is range day!

>>64821564
You should get the .45 that has the grip angle that is most natural for you. For a very lot of people that is the 1911. Personally I carried a 1911 for years. Great carry gun. I don't have Glock, but they are clunky and gen 1 through three at least have a grip angle that is not natural for me. It translates into I shoot quicker and more accurately with a 1911. An officers model 1911 may be what you are looking for.

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$20 clone of the DAA Alpha-XiP. Looks pretty good.

I want to carry a .45. Is a Glock 21 too large?

>>64821818
Nah. You can carry a mk23 if you want.

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I love H9 aesthetics. Too bad it's one of the most poorly executed guns ever :(

>>64821807
>An officers model 1911 may be what you are looking for.
You are a high if you're truly recommending an officer 1911 as a substitute carry gun for a G30. Sure, Glocks have shit triggers and ergos, but an officer 1911 isn't even in the same size class as a G30, it's significantly larger and heavier, and only holds 7 rounds vs the G30's 11.

>>64821547
why my photos don't look as pretty as those?

>>64821850
photography is a skill that you have to work at, anon. it doesn't just happen

>>64821842
Nta but are you thinking of a commander or a full size 1911? Officers are pretty close to a g30 in all dimensions (a little longer and taller but slimmer) and around the same weight. There's also a defender if he wants

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>>64821731
>>64821792
Kino but strange. With a comp it jams like a bitch and without it kicks like a horse.
Somehow i think the Cerakote at that spot causes a problem bacause the gunk and oils got a too big surface area for sliding, causing some kind of fluid draw. Maybe i get problems with the comp for this reason

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9mm is creeping back up... used to be $215 for name brand brass case a couple months ago

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>>64821842
Calm down fanboy. Significantly larger is a stretch. Heavier, yes. But that weight and it's distribution translate to better recoil management and accuracy. Capacity I say is a meme. I carried a revolver for several years as well. But the most honest one can be in the capacity argument is that it's a personal choice and varies dependent on environment. Being someone who had to carry for work I was never put in a position that 7 in the pistol and a back up mag were not enough.
So yes, I am absolutely recommending a 1911. Shoot them side by side. I would choose a 1911 platform over a Glock any day of the week.

Anyone use tungsten putty in their competition guns?

Who makes decent shoulder holsters?

>>64821877
Maybe I should buy a few hundred rounds later. .45 too

>>64821885
Shoulder holsters are useless and will get you killed in the streets

>>64821870
Have you checked if the extractor is free moving or perhaps too high due to the coating, might need to use a stronger spring or longer bearing. Or thin the coating around the extractor and hole. Just a thought.

>>64821901
You are a fucking idiot.

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>>64821870
When I use this comp, I switch to an 11lb recoil spring assembly.

>>64821914
I checked, can fully free mocmve without problems. I should go and try handloads with good FMJs, but the new 11lbs spring is junk. 11lbs is so light that the smallest touch on the slide with move it backwards and there it stays.

>>64821929
Thats brave, somehow i think the comped glock might be worse than a knife for home defence. Its just a jam generator or im holding it wrong. Might start with a thumb rest or just buying a USP Match

>>64821934
Chuck the factory spring back in it and see. That was what 17lbs or so. Personally I use 20lb springs for .40 or anything 160g or more.

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Had a couple days off for range trips to see about the monthly challenge. Still sucking, tryna improve. I just keep flinching though.
>>64821901
I like shoulder holsters! They are comfy and easy to wear. Especially when you are regularly bending over to lift shit all day.

>>64821885
Galco Holsters has some good ones. I cheaped out and got a YT Hobby vertical holster for my 92D. It's good as well.

>>64821934
Also is it a screw assembly spring, or is it a solid part where it seats in the slide under the barrel, plastic or SS. The plastic and screw assembly can have issues in my experience. The SS with the solid piece that fits perfectly into the frame seems to be a fix for some return issues.

>>64821972
Doing this in only DA is hardmode, that's pretty good all things considered.

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>>64821976
Pic related SS. But why is the spring inbthe upper slot when taking it apart. Maybe i should remove a few mm from the 14lbs spring

>>64821942
>Might start with a thumb rest or just buying a USP Match
How rich are you bro

>>64821784
>They are huge and are nowhere near as nice to shoot as a good 1911

Wrong, every 1911 I’ve tried ranging from $300-$11,500 has had more recoil than my USP .45, which most .45 guys think is a 9mm since the recoil is so gentle.

>>64822007
Can you take the spring out? I had this issue, not with a comp. I switched to a solid front SS 20lbs and the issue was fixed. I'll post a pic of the two side by side in a min.

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Is this possible to unfuck myself or should I pay someone to do it?

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>>64821983
thanks, but those are the cherrypicked attempts from this wednesday. the rest of the attempts were not as impressive, but I kept them in manilla folders with the good ones for progress tracking's sake.\

Here are Thurday's best four attempts.

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>instant approval on glock 19 gen 6 and osprey 2.0
oh yeah
its party time
i have some boxes of subsonics
i am so ready

>>64822012
Maybe in a few years, right now i make 2x avg income while driving the cheapest beater car in the village lol. Even furniture cant be found here, rather buy more guns and chemicals to get faster into the USA

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>>64822007
Increasing the spring weight and changing to the solid end will fix both the creep up the step and should fix the jamming. The screw and Ill fitting front of recoil springs causes walking issues.

>>64821858
Also having a $4k setup doesn't hurt.

>>64822086
I could use the factory 17lbs spring, that one cant move around desu. But with that spring i cant even use Nato 124gr. With 14lbs its way better and 11lbs IDK, never did a real test with increasing piwder charges. I might gonand shorten the spring to prevent it from bending at the side, maybe 2 coils

>>64822119
Cutting the spring is going to decrease the tension. I'm not sure what your result will be but please post it. Pistol looks good.

>>64822025
Not worth paying someone to do it. Clean it up, replace what needs replaced, make it functional. Simple gun, readily available parts, if you ever want a nice one they're readily available and inexpensive.

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Anon-kun... you did shoot the January challenge, right???

>>64822180
I don't shoot I just collect

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Tried it with the cz shadow 2 I just got.

>>64822025
Why did you rub the slide with steel wool?

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>>64822238
It seemed to be a good idea at the time.

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>>64821878
>handgunhero
>picks the worst possible comparison image the site can generate
dummy

>>64821878
Guess what, retard? This is me: >>64821784
Glocks fucking suck monkey ass, but a commander 1911 is not even close when it comes to being a good carry gun. The Glock is smaller, much lighter, holds more rounds, and is more reliable. It's not even a contest for carry. 1911s are the king of range guns, not good carry guns.

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>>64822017
Could you take some video of you shoot your USP .45 from this angle, I sold my to my brother so I can’t

I do doubt your claim

>people STILL clinging to the 1911 for dear life
It's just not practical bros

>Smaller/lighter
Lift more
>More rounds
Hit your shots
>More reliable
Clean your shit
1911 chambered in .45 for life

>>64822260
>Glock is reliable
Not when imperfect grip conditions exist, like during an actual shoot out.

>>64822260
Was this translated from a series of mouth clicking noises? The adults are talking, back to bed little girl.

>>64822288
you can say the same thing about the 1911 (or any gun), though
Hell, the 1911 will actively prevent you from firing with an imperfect grip.

>>64822301
Not really. Glocks are genuinely more prone to that issue than other firearms.
Also the grip safety on a 1911 is long enough that you’d have to have a REALLY bad grip on it to miss it.

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>>64822279
How is this not a practical carry

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>>64821324
Getting it in before the deadline

>>64822305
>Glocks are genuinely more prone to that issue than other firearms.
No, they're not.

>>64822301
Arguing that a 1911 or a Glock isn't a good carry gun is kind of a tell that someone got hit in the face by the extra chromosome fairy. Both have served reliably in military, war, police and civilian life for long enough they have proved otherwise.

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I just bought 1000 rounds of this garbage. I am through 600 in 2 weeks. This is the absolute worst ammo in the world. FTEs galore and it's dirty as fuck.

>>64822317
Crazy

I fed a few thousand of that through my berettas and had zero issue

>>64822312
Yep.

>>64822180
Nope, and I'm shooting normal nra targets tomorrow again.

>>64822297
Nice comeback dickboy.

>>64822288
Go 2 gym

>>64822317
Should have got service grade my man

>>64822321
This. My Glock 19 and Beretta 92 eat whatever the fuck I feed them, no problems

>>64822327
Clearly underaged.

>>64822343
Is that why you're trying to get in my ass?

>>64822317
Never had issues with it. It is kind of dirty I guess. I guess you're the guy who doesn't clean his guns because it's "not necessary"?

>>64822344
I can’t think of a worse ambassador for any firearm platform than this guy. He’s mega annoying.

>>64822288
It's weird how Glock's reputation went from the most reliable handguns ever to catastrophically unreliable due to a mysterious susceptibility to limp wristing right around the same time zoomers became old enough to buy guns.

>>64822317
I've shot many thousands of rounds of that over the years and haven't noticed a higher frequency of malfunctions. But it is some of the least accurate ammo I've ever shot, perhaps second only to Tula.

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>>64822344

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>>64822355

>>64822353
More that it took a hit around the time of police shooting videos becoming popular.

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>>64822351

>>64822362
Imagine taking gun advice from this unathletic retard. Even the teams were laughing at him during the photo op.

>>64822347
Nope he's not me. I shoot whatever ammo and don't care how dirty it gets my guns. His point of it being dirty is probably more so that it smells like shit. In other words a pajeet-tier ammo. I wouldn't know as I shoot service grade because I'm not a limp wrist pussy.

Just buy Federal

>>64822363
No, it seems like there was about a ten year delay between those. But even if they were coincident, police have been keeping records of officer-involved shootings and using them to improve weapons for as long as there have been officer-involved shootings. If there actually were a statistically significant problem with the overwhelmingly most popular LE gun in America compared to other semi-auto pistols, it seems rather unlikely that it would have somehow totally escaped notice until r/guns got on the case.

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For me? It’s Blazer Brass. The best range ammo.

>>64822384
>ten year delay
About the amount of time since genuine gen 3s were abandoned. I bet you think Colt is just as good as they were in the past too.

>>64822390
No, but I have one gen 3 and three gen 5 Glocks and none of them have ever malfunctioned. I like the gen 5s better though.

>>64822389
More like Baseder Brass.

>>64821901
Name one time that's happened.

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>>64821901

Phew. Just bought another thousand rounds bros. Gotta watch out for the rising prices these days.

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>>64822377
Yeah the “teams” laugh at him while he’s brought on to train Delta Force, the guys who actually do things

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I for one am looking forward to my new Glock 19 Gen 4
I've always liked the older Glock looks despite Gen 5 just being better mechanically

>>64822389
>The best range ammo.
Source?

>>64822347

>Never had issues with it. It is kind of dirty I guess. I guess you're the guy who doesn't clean his guns because it's "not necessary"?

I clean my guns after each use. I can't even wait to get home with this shit ass ammo or it'll stain my pistol case. I'm wiping everything down with a rag and it's looking like a mechanics rag when I'm done. My hands look like I just got done doing a brake pad swap.

>>64822417

Reviews? He's right; CCI is doing thangs right.

It's clear that filthchads win again. Yet another moral and metaphysical victory. You neat freaks will burn in hell.

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>>64822409

same, same

>>64822312

This. Both are weapons with a long proven track record, it just comes down to personal preference at this point.

The best carry is the one you're comfortable with. That's why you should carry a grenade.

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Anyone else /P01/ here?

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>>64822409

>>64822389
I also shoot blazer brass, but I have been unhappy to find a few rounds with bad crimp that let bullet set back a bit into the case.

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I think I'm going to buy some handloading materials for 9mm

>>64822503
I had this in one box of 1000rds of blazer brass 45acp recently. My first time buying blazer brass.
I emailed them and they wanted me to send them an unaffected box to inspect and make sure others were "within specification" after a bunch of back and forth.
Didn't even acknowledge the original issue with the one affected box.
Huge waste of time.
Fuck cci/blazer

>>64822511
Better start doing the math on what brass, powder, bullets, and primers cost. It hasn't been economical to hand-load 9mm in many years to the wild increases in cost of powder and primers particularly.

>>64822520
>brass
non issue
>powder
I still have the ram zip
>bullets
thats what I need
>Primers
I still have my small pistol primers
I would just need die, and the only ones I have are for .38/.357 and .44 mag

>>64822545
TYFYS

>>64822431
What's that cum to with shipping?

>>64822545
Maybe I'll participate in next month's challenge
Lets have it be for small guns

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>My Glock 19 Gen 4 is shipping from Minneapolis
well damn

>>64822377
If you take shooting advice from anyone in the united states military, you are mind-bogglingly retarded

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>>64822634
what about these guys

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>>64822617
>compensated + brake

>>64822637
if I wanted to magdump lightly armed brownoids at 4 yards and call in CAS for everything more serious than that, maybe I'd consult these experts

>>64822640
>if I wanted to magdump lightly armed brownoids at 4 yards
one of the most prevalent assailants in america?

>>64822489
I'm loving that high school class ring

>>64822637
They have their sleeves rolled up. I'd never take their shitbag advice.

>>64822545
>pastebin is the only one who passed without a red dot
perhaps we judged him too harshly

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m'niggas

>>64822559
shipping was like $21ish not bad at all

I miss when an FK BRNO Field Pistol wasn't $10,000. Literally cheaper to buy a Kimber 2K11 and convert it to .40 super with a custom fitted barrel.

>>64822520
Im saving 30% when calculaging high quality habdloads vs. PPU. Its not worth it if you got no time + no multistage press.

>>64822649

Undergrad, so basically yeah.

>>64822655
>the only one
this will age poorly come Saturday

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Should I just buy the Caldwell Matrix?

>>64822800
It should do a great job, you don't need much to rest a handgun. Looks like the Caldwell Ready, Steady and Pistolero rests are a little cheaper and also work with handguns

>>64822848
What would you recommend for testing stupidly large handguns from?

>>64822897
WHAT'S WRONG WITH YOUR HANDS, SONNY?

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>>64822897
I don't know, the ones of those that have extendable rear sections, or a separate rest and bag like pic related that you can position wherever you want

What are some design features you'd like to see out of a modern revolver? I think there's a lot of room for innovation now that manufacturing processes have improved the way that they have and with advancements in cartridges. I'll start:
>Top break makes the revolver an expedient reload when needed. Manufacturing improvements means this doesn't have the kind of structural vulnerability it did in the past
>Stronger cartridges with higher capacity; germane to the above, designs such as the 12 shot .38/357 are now feasible and improvements in smaller cartridges like .22WMAG, or .22RH means smaller caliber high capacity revolvers could still achieve comparable ballistics performance to .380 or 9mm
>Revolvers that fire from the bottom of the cylinder also would be a great feature improving balance and stability

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>>64822929
>picrel

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>>64822929
None. That's an anachronism. You want modern features, buy an automatic.

The only design feature a revolver needs is real high polish bluing, which no one does right anymore.

>>64822939
I don't think so. I think it's shameful that most gunsmiths refuse to entertain the thought of innovating on design features. Imagine if the firearms industry collectively decided that single stack magazine firearms or hammer fired firearms or direct impingement firearms shouldn't be innovated on because "this is as good as it's gonna' get, sonny!"

>>64822929
I want to see a semi automatic 22 wmr with a single action trigger

>>64822929
>20 round magazine
>DA/SA
>Optics ready
>Sub $1k

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>>64822962
>>64822992
These would both be kino, although
>20 shot capacity cylinder
You could probably achieve that by expanding the circumfrence of the cylinder, which is how a 12 shot .357 was done, though my gut tells me 18 rounds is probably the most you could get. I know there's a 20 round double barrel revolver that alternates between top and bottom that can do something similar too, but there's no way you'd be able to manufacture something similar for under 1k.
>>64822929
I think it'd be neat to see a 12 gauge revolver rifle. The problem with the judge is that it doesn't really take advantage of its powder load unless you buy it in rifle configuration. I think the notion of a 12 gauge revolver shotgun would be fascinating but it'd need some additional design modifications to work well, like a blast shield in front of each side of the cylinder to stop you from hurting yourself from gas escaping the cylinder. Maybe a judge like pistol design could be useful with low-brass shells to solve the powder issue?

>>64822929
RMR mount from factory
Barrel threading from factory for compensator

>>64822962
There are a few to choose from.

>challenge target is too small to use at my local range
I hate indoor ranges so much

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>>64821547
people who do alcohol are such fuckin fags

>>64823481
People who are skinnywrist twinks like you are total fags

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>>64823488
is that why you're too afraid to post a photo, you fuckin weak little bitch?

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>>64821324
>Trusty .45 Edition

Well, here's my latest purchase. It is, indeed, a trusty .45. Specifically, from the Brazilian contract from 1937. I had to replace the grips it came with (post-war magna grips) with something more appropriate.
Got some half moon clips, and a 10-pack of full moons on the way. Now I just need the web gear, and while there's no dedicated m3 holster for the 1917, it does fit the holster made for the victory revolver in .38 spl, so I'll get one of those.

Or I might get a regular holster, and a '43 gas mask bag to go with it (but I can't crack a whip).

>>64822712
You have to factor the cost of the press and dies in too. There's a break even point but it's a big number.

>>64823481
Your boy Leon is a full-blown alcoholic.

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>>64823481
sybau

>>64823710
i wish i got my hands on another bottle of eagle rare before i basically stopped drinking but they were unobtanium in my state back then

>>64821564
>Glock 17
Check out Glock 41, if your holster has open hole on the bottom, it might fit in, and bare grip is a bit bigger than 17

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Which guns are the opposite of tacticool in 2026? Something that looks like pic related.

Does 5.7 have any relevance anymore snd who makes the best one? Fn seems to have retained their magazine safety retardation. S&w seems to be the most feature packed but rotating barrel makes suppressing it a fever dream. I guess that leaves pr57

>>64823794
the thunderstruck

>>64823237
hot/cold outdoor range I go to straight up doesn't have a 10 yard line, it's 7/15/25 for pistol side

>>64823794
Anything with no rails and no red dot, so either an M9 or Gen2 glock clone

>>64823794
>Painted FDE
This sin cannot be cleansed. Into the void.

>>64823586
Quite a handsome gun

>>64823796
The S&W has a fixed threaded mounted while the barrel rotates or some shit

>>64822939
Based and correctpilled.

>>64823237
Just tape/staple it to a larger, range-approved target

>>64823924
Yeah but it’s got some weird shim fuckery going on

>>64822929
Factory acro cut
Built in light rail
This is for J frames/snubs of course, bigger frame revolvers have a fair amount of modernized options.

>>64824203
wut

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I recently bought a Ruger RXM. I'm looking to buy some more magazines for it. Has anyone used these Mec Gar magazines with the Ruger RXM or are they strictly meant to be used with Glocks?

>>64824290
Aren't you supposed to use PMags with the RXM?

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>>64824290
Just make sure they are specific G19 size, as you can see on the mag there is no protrusion that prevents over insertion, so non-glock ejector damage concerns apply

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>>64823710
thet little bitch ass bottle of alcohol doesn't scare me, dumb ass

>>64824415
dude what is your problem lmao. I'm not alcohol anon, but whenever you post it's some passive aggressive nonsense. I am gonna be brutally honest with you, that does not pair well with your wrist circumference. Nice 26 btw

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>>64824443
thanks, and my wrists are already size men's large so i dont know what more you want out of them.

>>64824443
you're responding to a troll, who has been at this for months, in multiple threads

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>>64823796
The FN5.7 isn't very nice to shoot. Neither is the M&P 5.7 or the Ruger 5.7, and definitely not the PSA Rock 5.7. The PR57 novelty handgun is by far the most entertaining of them.

>>64823796
What makes a good caliber? If you think it's all about making holes and exact penetration numbers, 5.7 is great at that, while also minimizing ammo weight and maximizing capacity. It's a complete failure.

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Not really a fan of my Kahr. Thinking about trying to sell it for a loss, and put it towards a Shield X. Any thoughts on the X? Was thinking about the M&P 2.0 compact, too, but the X seems much simpler to carry in SoCal clothing.

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>>64823608
I know but the point of quality and fine tuning ammo is sometimes more importent than cost. I take handloads for rifles all day long over factory match ammo. Pic related fresh from the printer: ring to get do 1/8 or 1/16 turn better

>>64824552
Release slide on a shield before you commit one

Anyone ITT own an H&K P30? Give me a review pls.

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>>64824585
Ergonomics are great, trigger sucks. I sold the L and never shoot the reg.

>>64822344
He's right, and that's why they (fags) hate him.
If you can't master a Glock, how will you ever be able to get the most out of your $4000 elitist gun?

>>64824578
>doesn't know how to slingshot
Okay Jerry Miculek.

>>64824750
Shit gun technique

>>64824755
You will never reload from slide lock in a defensive situation.
You will never use a micro compact in a competition situation.
You are retarded.

>>64824762
You will never put a control lever on a gun that can't be used and write copium in the manual about how you are supposed to not use it.
Glock's works.
Walther's works.
HK's works.
Beretta's works.
You are retarded and so are S&W engineers and designers.

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You guys see the "QRO" optic mount system Savage employed on their rehashed Shield copy?

The videos and pics Savage provided are really horrible at showing anything useful or informative but I pictures of the plate and interface. afaik it's a totally novel approach to mounting optics. Or almost, I know Bubits had something similar on the BB6 but it was a mile high plastic plate that just clicked in with tabs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=asV12D98CXY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lJsY5sfk_3E

tl;dw You mount the optic to a plate, the plate clips into the slide on dovetails and locks into place with a spring detent manually activated from the rear (pic related, it's the detent button)

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>>64824578
Skill issue

>>64824812
Copy variation

>>64821392
Nice manstopper you have there

>>64821393
>with lower OAL than the cylinder
So loading a longer bullet into a .38 Spc case would improve accuracy?

>>64821416
Is a combat pistol after all

>>64821459
>would so love to build one
Inshallah

>>64821502
>might get into the magazine and the firing pin
Shouldn't make much of a difference as you're cleaning both after every range trip, anon

>>64824711
>If you can't win a race in a yugo how will you ever win in a Ferrari
Glocks grip angle and shape is very wrong for a rather large portion of the population. If you have to adjust your natural wrist point angle and grip to fire a pistol you are just getting good at doing things wrong.
>Just stand in this unathletic stance and hold the pistol in a way that won't translate to 99% of real world use trust me Ive got no combat experience but is shot some paper, beat my wife and did a photo op at a best western with some actual men- Ben shit up bitch or I'll smack you again and feel up your niece stoger

>>64824556
For rifles I can see it, but a 9mm handgun? Are you some olympic level 9mm competitor or something? Because I bet the variation in any decent factory ammo is good enough that 99.999% of handgun shooters are not capable of shooting well enough to notice ammo inconsistency nor are their guns themselves precise enough for it to be noticeable.

>>64824552
Keep the Kahr, it's a good pocket gun. I've had my CW380 for many yeas and it's going nowhere. Shield X is like 1/8" thinner than an 3.6" M2.0 compact, a otherwise the size is nearly identical.

>>64824940
>If you have to adjust your natural wrist point angle and grip to fire a pistol
Like you have to do with literally every semi auto handgun grip not based off of a Luger grip angle?

>>64824940
Oh it’s this fag again lol

Going to ever post groups or are you going to make a fool of yourself again

>>64824940
holy shit
mad as fuck

>>64824803
Probably the only innovative mounting system to come out since the initial appearance of modern handgun optics. I like it. Shame I have no interest in the gun.

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>>64824803
You mean like nighthawk’s optic plate system from 2019

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>>64822905
I don’t want to blow them off bench testing a wildcat round and would prefer something a little more sophisticated than ratchet straps and sandbags…


Waiting on a custom reamer to thin the brass in the necks for this. But have the rest of the process figured out..

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>>64822905
>>64822917
Thanks, might end up looking into a small size rifle sled…. Looking for something to independently hold a gun for test shots more than just a shooting stand..

Final round is 450 gn and should hit 1300 fps with 45 ft-lbs of recoil…. Converted 7mm prc brass blown out to hold a .510 bullet… It’s loaded to 45-70 govt pressure spec to avoid damaging the frame.. 50 Alaskan mag.

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>>64824865
Thank you!

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as promised, here are my targets from today. the one on the left is from 25-30 yards, and the one on the right is from about 10. I'm going to need a lot more practice.

>>64824969
You haven't shot many pistols, or have the weirdest natural point angle in history.

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>>64825075
Honest targets. Good job anon! Keep up the practice!

>>64824978
Found little Ben. What was it exactly they took you in for and walked out of your house with every firearm you own?
You want groups, I'll do you one better creep. Post the offences they pulled you in for publicly and I'll start posting the patches, tabs, medals, cords and ribbons that say I know a fuck of a lot more about the subject than you do you little paper punching coward.

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>>64821324
>those shitty tattoos
How did his trip to Turkey go?

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>>64825075
You were shooting further than I was!

>>64825119
>trip to Turkey
Is that how Garand Thumb gets his Turkware?

>>64825014
No, you don't knock a pin out. You just push a button

>>64825075
Looks like you had fun! Keep it up man

>>64825107
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>>64825230
thanks. I've identified what I need to work on, so now I just need to keep at it.

>>64824940
Lmfao what a retard, inb4 he starts posting some point shooting larp shit

>>64825075
This is actually pretty solid shooting considering what I just witnessed at the range today

>>64825107
shot at 3 yds btw

>>64825272
what did you witness?

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>>64825296
>shot at 3 yds
8 yards, 24'
Post guns

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>>64824943
Fine tuning for recoil reduction is what i do, im not even close to need precision improvments. The CZ Shadow works very well that way. Besides that i can make budget FMJ at Nato or +P pressure to avoid training with expensiv self defence ammo, at the end its on you. Pic related ypu got 2 factory Fiocchis and on the right some milder copies.

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>>64824290
>Ruger RXM
I had thought that filters Mec-Gar mags but it works apparently if you keep within factory specs
https://youtu.be/ONP2xiRXqUM?t=156
https://youtu.be/Dkc6FLQhO8M?t=83
https://youtu.be/jfOn_OTo1Bw?t=205

>>64825033
>Baja Blast
Exquisite choice

>>64825267
Looking to do the same myself DESU

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>>64825357
I'm sure you can shoot that better than I could, with your handgun. But why would I gain by lying? It would only give me false confidence which would be negative to me in the long run.

>>64823100
i meant semi automatic like the mateba
recoil operated automatic cylinder revolving and hammer cocking

>>64825357
Why are you posting my gun pretending to be me

>>64825439
are you lefty?

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>>64825487
Right hand dominate, right eye "dominate" but I can aim and shoot lefty alright enough.
I can ambidextrous box, broom and street hockey stick. I can't skate so playing with my cousin when we were kids I was picrel running all the time.

>>64825500
then explain those lower right holes!

Is $500 a decent price for a used sig p238? I've been considering getting one recently and I saw one pop up today for that much

>>64825511
>explain
I never said that I wasn't a good shot lol

>>64825515
if it works, yeah
if it doesnt youre sol, sig cs is dogshit, also the mags are like $45

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>>64825357
>>64825479
You should update your photo, I broke the RMR HD on it

I am considering a SW M&P 9 M2.0 as a carry, but im getting dizzy with all of these options. Just like glocks, it seems like many people suggest upgrading pretty much every piece on the gun. Does it make more sense to just buy the lower and then all of the parts I would "upgrade" to rather than paying for the full gun the replace every piece afterwards?

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>>64825558
How? Do you think an enclosed optic would have been better? Or would it have had the same result?
>t. going to get this mounted in a few months

>>64825562
you could do what most people do which is get the stock gun and become proficient with it
"many people" doing something doesnt mean you have to do it or that its necessary.

>>64825562
Is this your first handgun?

>>64825562
Ignore the gunsoomers with their relentless throwing money away on competition style upgrades on guns they never compete with. An M&P 9 M2.0 compact is better suited for carry unless you're a big lanklet who can conceal a gun very easily. Even still, height doesn't make carrying a full size gun much more comfortable.

>>64825573
I have a sig p938 but I hate how it shoots. Maybe its microcompact I dont like, or just this gun.

>>64825578
Sorry I did mean the carry comp version.

>>64825307
>post guns
>>64825357
>>64825479
he said post guns? not post my guns?!?

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>>64825584
Oh boy here we go again. The fact of the matter is carrying a gun with a ported barrel isn't the best idea. They're prone to throwing chunks of jacket and unburnt powder out of that port, and it makes it a lot louder for you, the shooter. So if you ever have to use it, and use it from a retention position, it's possible you'll injure yourself with the blast of shit that comes out of the port. It's just not a great idea and it isn't really necessary, there is very little recoil and muzzle flip from compact to full size range 9mms. People are obsessed with competition gun features in carry guns these days, chasing stuff like split times, you can shoot a compact 9mm with no compensation or porting plenty fast and plenty accurate at defensive ranges with some practice.

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>>64825567
A ammo box with 400-500 rounds of .45 ACP fell on it and knocked it off the table on the floor. It was also loaded as well. I think what cracked it was the ammo box since the fall wasn’t that bad and I think my backpack broke the fall. The more I think about it was the heavy ass ammo box.

An enclosed optic has two lens to break, the RMR HD still functioned. Zero might have shifted upwards but that’s more of the distortion of the lens through the cracks.

>>64825595
Im no pro shooter, just learning what I can like I will from your post.

>>64825271
We are talking about grip angle, what the fuck are you on about? Are you trying to debate against the benefits of natural POA wrist angle and handgun grip angle? Last I checked it was settled science and has been proven to death starting with Samuel Colt.

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>>64825606
Not all ports are created equal. This quad ported 92 barrel is one of the loudest guns I’ve fired, louder than short barrel .45s and full size 10mms, less than .44 magnum obviously + revolvers have cylinder gap that make them louder. The extended ported barrel isn’t bad.

It’s uncomfortable to shoot in a cramped shooting stall even doubled up on ear pro. I would not carry it.

As anon said, jacket separation may pose a threat to your eyes if you shoot from retention (gun close to your body). There’s a few videos on jacket separation. Videos on the blast being redirected upwards at your face too when shooting from retention, one guy was testing it without eye protection and that’s monumentally stupid IMO even as a demonstration.

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>>64825599
Sorry to hear but yeah that exceeds known durability.

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>>64825617
Well yeah I wouldnt want to carry a gun that requires eyewear to shoot safely. I have an eps carry waiting for me whenever I can figure out which version I want

OMG guys did you see that Seecamp is rereleasing their 25ACP!!! They are gonna make millions on that!

>>64825689
25 ACP sisters… we won

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>>64821324
Give me another week
I finally finished casting my replacement bulldog and broomhandle ammo and need to load it

This is basically the Cheems manhattan project only the goal is ammo self sufficiency

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>>64825689
I wonder if this guy is still around

>>64825479
>>64825357
that's the nighthawk double stack frame, right? What's the rest of the gun. Sorry I'm not at all familiar with 2011s, but this one look fucking good

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>>64825749
I built it myself. Nothing about the gun is nighthawk, I just like the medallion. The frame is a JEM stainless steel .45 ACP unramped frame, the slide is a Les Baer stainless steel slide with a Wilson Combat “drop in” (it wasn’t drop in, it’s just semi fit), atlas Perfect match trigger kit, Wilson parts everywhere else. Honestly it should have Wilson medallions

This is what it started as

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>>64825768
While I was waiting for my slide to be optic cut I through on my Colt 1978 slide. This has inspired me to build another, the issue is that optics are better than irons so I’ll have to optic cut a colt slide so I’m waiting for a nice blued slide to pop up on eBay or something. Or have a slide polished DLC’d. I really like the straight serrations, straight trigger, squared trigger guard and the shortened beaver tail on this.

>>64825784
>>64825768
Does JEM still sell those grip modules? Are all 2011 grip modules of the same caliber interchangeable? I'm assuming from the frame up it's just like building a 1911 right?

Best compact carry?

>>64825639
But all guns require eyewear to shoot safely, maybe except manual action ones?

>>64825806
Guess would be Glock 43

>>64825803
shit nvm it's an MJD I just found it

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>>64825806
lightweight j-frame in pocket or on a clip grip

>>64825803
The grip modules currently are all interchangeable with some requiring more fitting than others, nobody seems to care but a company started selling a grip module on eBay that allows CZ 75 mags to work with 2011s, I think that’s a big deal as the first grip module to change from 2011 mags. Even staccato couldn’t do that with custom frames for their C mags or Glock mags.

I mean, now 2011 mags are super cheap and reliable it doesn’t matter.

>>64825815
MJD are 200 dollars for a bare grip, with a soldering iron and stipple kit you can fix that. MJD’s slipped right into a cheely frame with no issue, onto this JEM frame it needed a little fitting and persuasion from a mallet.

Prodigy grips from Springfield’s customer service phone line are about 50 bucks each.

>>64825803
Also the American flag grips aren’t very good, the Stars and Stripes isn’t very grippy. Perhaps if they used the Stars and Bars (confederate flag) they would be more grippy.

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>>64825816
>boomers really do this

>>64825803
Also building a 2011 is almost exactly the same as building a 1911, most of the parts are the same

how to keep carbon off my rmr's objective lens when shooting suppressed? gets so dirty

>>64825872
put tape over your RMR lens while shooting

want custom grips for a ruger sr9c
where go

>>64825946
Talon Grips, or 3D print a whole new custom frame. 3D printing a new frame is probably the cheaper of the two options.

>>64825852
Yeah some of them really wear belts. Silly geese.

>>64825837
>>64825843
what are you doing for mags?

>>64825607
I'm still waiting for one with an officer length slide that flush-fits G26 mags.

>>64826007
for a .45 ACP you can use STI mags or MBX mags, checkmate is making "STI" mags again. MBX mags are higher capacity

>>64823481
>le tacticool gloves

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>>64825872
You can't. You must simply suffer with cleaning afterward

I use Lube's turbosolvent cleaner because it does not have ammonia (Vortex said don't use ammonia solvents), works a treat.

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>>64825617
how hard is it to swap out the pieces from black to stainless? and what tools are required?

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Barely before January ends! My attempt with my Staccato C. Still far from laserbeam tier

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Best I could do with my HK45C. Would've passed too, except for that one I pulled low left out of the square.

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>>64825702
>lead ingots cooling in a Quiktrip cup
Interesting choice but it's the collage anon who decides if there'll be extensions, not me

>>64826251
>low-left flier with combat sights
I know that feel, bro

>>64826246
Is that grip module texture new?

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>>64826246
>>64826251


whoever makes the next general please use this image

>>64826254
I cope by telling myself it's good enough to kill a man. The 45C is my usual carry

>>64826271
It's the V3 grip that Staccato came out with starting with the CS in 2023, and also used on the C. Still miffed that they discontinued the V3 line so soon after introducing it

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>>64826272
>please use this
You have my word, TYFYS

>>64826283
actually maybe not, this is a little too much

your choice pastebinette

>>64826283
I have to agree with the other anon. This is in poor taste.

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I think my dealer lost my handgun that was delivered Saturday morning by USPS

>>64826303
it takes a while for them to process packages, they have to open each one and write down the serial numbers and enter it into their bound book

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>>64826279
Minute of man all day!
>45C is my usual carry
freebased!

>>64826289
>>64826297
Too great a risk of getting the entire thread deleted. The deepfake Asuka will have to suffice