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>>64834212
Accepting late submissions

If anyone has an idea, please give me an idea for a challenge or otherwise there won’t be one. I want to do a bill drill challenge with video proof but not everyone can do bills with shot timers and holster draws

>>64834229
Yeah if you do a bill drill challenge you'll get maybe a half dozen participants because it's not allowed at most ranges and frankly I couldn't be bothered to set up a camera, record it, blur myself, convert it to webm, and upload it here. Too much effort.

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>>64834212
God I fucking love Asahi.
Also my Glock 19 Gen4 came with night sights, great deal for a new gun.

>>64834242
Okay maybe not full video but of the target if possible

But yeah, not everyone is able to actually shoot due to ranges not wanting people to shoot them selves

>>64834229
>but not everyone can do bills with shot timers and holster draws
They're not gonna do it because 90% of the people here would look like absolute shit and not be able to back up most of their other shooting claims.

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>>64834257
Hey fuckhead most ranges wont let you do holster draws

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>>64834229
Cheers!

>>64834242
To be fair Id only require 2 or so people to do that since theyre narcissistic liars, everyone else Id trust.

>>64834253
They don’t allow cameras or phones out at my local range, a great policy that prevents faggotry like this.

>>64834291
Understandable but you can at least listen to shit right?

>>64834294
wtf are you listening to at the range? I have earplugs under my earmuffs I'm trying to hear a little as possible.

>>64834301
Podcasts..
Music...

>>64834294
Yeah the sound of gunshots and the RSO’s instructions? Do people listen to anything else on the range? Kind of a dangerous environment to be jamming out to your Spotify playlist.

>>64834263
>Ren
God her episode was so hot.

>>64834294
Dude. The most goyim thing I’ve heard all day

>>64834311
anon you can just admit you feel a sense of superiority by NOT listening to music.

I listen to mommy asmr at the range personally

I'm usually talking to friends at the range.

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>>64834229
>don’t allow cameras or phones out at my local range
Grim!

Cameras wouldnt be necessary if the liar here would be honest.

>>64834333
I just don’t listen to music, idk how that makes me superior but it would just stress me out if I did it while shooting, too much unnecessary noise.

>>64834358
What does this accomplish? Your video is so blurry and low quality, I can’t even tell if you’re making hits or not.

How much fucking scar tissue do you have in your ear canal from blasting music over the sounds of gunshots

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>>64834212
>Asahi
Asahi beer, meet Asahi bars.

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>listening to music while you shoot

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Back at home, lets do a full week of pew pew :3 need 9mm ammo

>>64834363
It's the internet, nigga, people lie. Get over it. Ignore it.

>>64834397
I'VE SEEN FOOTAGE

>>64834405
Its the internet if you lie people dont forget.

>>64834393
i always speed readed asahi as ashai and i embarrassed myself really badly at a sushi place last month.

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>>64834414
>asahi as ashai and i embarrassed myself
You and me both!

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>>64834212
Japanese beer is a lot better with food than on its own.

>>64834451
i like sapporo on its own, reminds me of mountain dew for some reason. too expensive to drink regularly compared to domestic lagers

>>64834311
First of all, I exclusively pirate my shit, fuck paying for music.
Second of all, your concerns sound like a you issue, or that your range is dogshit.
For me I love listening to stuff like "Keep your rifle by your side".

My indoor range doesn't even have an RSO. The old dude just watches fox news and has a camera on the lanes. Kek.

>>64834397
>>64834405
>not staying noided while shootan'
ngmi

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>>64834369
Yeah, the camera went out of focus after I set it down because iPhones are inferior to Galaxies

>>64834491
TACH
YYYYYOOONNN

>>64834495
>No snow
Terrible

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>>64834451
I think asahi for Barbecue/steak and Sapporo for spicy food was my go to. I haven’t been buying Sapporo for a while

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Burt or anyone else who has one. Is a Romeo RS Compact Clear worth having for a carry gun? I like the look because I am retarded.

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do you guys think anyone has gotten kilt by a gen6 yet or will it take a while for those to trickle down to the hood

>>64834716
Give it time
It'll happen

I hate glockfags but im really enjoying my 19 gen 6, its the first time they made a grip i like

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>>64834515
No, anon– the snow is terrible and I don't miss it at all

>>64834400
How far were those targets, Luberino?

>>64834660
My dot cuts off a little before the bottom of the window so in terms of practicality it's worse than a holosun. In terms of swag though it's unmatched.

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>>64834660
No. You can get a Holosun 407K for $10 more and it won't degrade in sunlight

>>64834823
>>64834806
damn : (

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>>64834787
50m, had to change the zero back down. The new PRS stock and K2+ grip did a very good job, love it. Handloads, factory everything was on the table :3 a lil bit unstable so i might get a bipod idk

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>>64834945
>might get a bipod
Wish I had a good recommendation for you. This Magpul is awful for benchrest shooting because it bends and wobbles. Only later did I learn these are "combat" features for terrain adaptation

>>64834229
Two shots rapid dominant hand five hards. Two shots slow fire non dominant hand five yards. Two shots rapid fire ten yards. Four inch black circle.

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>>64834830
I guess I should have listed reasons, no reason not to

- The Romeo RS Compact Clear's window has lots of red aberrations in sunlight, likely because of the clear housing causing refraction and reflections, pic related, you see this at every angle except just around the dot, or when the optic is in shadow the aberrations are minimized. You see almost nothing at all on the Holosun except the dot
- Battery tray is not waterproof; no IP rating
- No click adjustment, this is the biggest ding imo to have to fish around in mush to adjust zero in the year of our Lord 2026
- Housing around lens is taller and wider yet basically same window size as 407K. Also the deck is higher
- One button, minor ding, doesn't really matter, but you cycle up and down with a single button so you won't be adjusting brightness in a hurry
- Blue lens tint, another minor ding, doesn't really matter and I don't care all that much but again most of the competition is past the crutch of using severe notch filters in the current year

All in all it's not BAD, especially at $160 or whatever it's a pretty good value. It works, it's cheap, it's cool. But 407Ks go on sale for like $170 so it's just worse in comparison because that's a much BETTER value

>>64834971
I dont need recommendations, the B&T PRS is the only way to go without getting (...)by MDT prices. Range leader also got the big daddy Savage in 308Win with a match trigger, man those upgrade to a massiv degree. But i dont wanna spend on the AR right now, shipping cost and Coom gonna fuck me up soon.

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>>64835048
Yeah, it is super thick and I'd lose all co witness. I at least have a bit of cowitness with what I have and it's cheap promo shit (pic related). Thanks for the deets.


I should probably get an enclosed optic, I'm unsure whether I it would be better to wait for reviews to come out on the EPS core or if I should just snag it as soon as it's back in stock. I have a very minor astigmatism though and I want to see the different size dots in person to gauge the effect if I'm going to spend more on a good optic.

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Minor win here
I had to use professionally made bullets instead of my sussy hand cast but this still passes

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>>64835166
I tried doing a broomhandle btw but the sights min at something like 50 yards so it aimed so high I had to point the sight bellow the target to compensate
This is about as good as it could go
I’ll compensate better next time but target shooting with a worn broomhandle was kind of fanciful anyways

>>64835177
And by below I mean literally at the line where the paper ends. It’s too hard to have to mentally predict where the vertical zero will be

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Had some time to kill so thought I'd clean a few of my handguns. Rate a poor man's gats.

>>64835206
Stop buying identical 9mms and save your damn money idiot

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>>64835206
You ever shoot those 2 Taurus' at the same time?
I tried it once with my P220s lol. Didn't hit fuckall at 15'

>>64835218
>save your damn money idiot
Jelly poorfag detected

>>64835218
>save your damn money idiot
Can't take it with me.

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>>64835083
>dont wanna spend on the AR right now
Understandable, you must have priorities of course

>>64835166
Was starting to think you wouldn't participate, jolly good! In the end, it took me over a dozen attempts

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>>64835083
Well you should probably invest well into it regardless
I have two "well funded" ARs for a reason

>>64835222
No, but I'm gonna try now. Hopefully I don't blow a hole in my hand.

>>64835299
I think you'll have the common sense to not do that.

>>64835166
Five isn't six.

>>64834229
I want to submit something, but where I am at is currently under a foot of snow.
Could you please repost the challenge? I didn't save it the first time around. Is it okay if I just draw it?
You can expect my piss poor attempt at making these challenges sometime this weekend when I can make it out to the range.

>>64834787
The older I get, the less I like winter. Sad thing is that winter used to be my favorite season. I see why old people like to move to places like Arizona and Florida.
Friendship ended with winter; fall is my new favorite season.

>>64835296
I agree to 100% but for now the AR is pretty good, need to join the gun club so i got unlimed range accress like i do this week. Man i shot alone today as long and as much as I wanted, feels good. Garmin Xero should be important, I wanna do 62,68 and 73gr handloads with top perfomance, those are cheaper than budget factory crap in germany ;_; Payed 32€ for 50, cheapest in stock. Thats a shit price for 55gr 223

>>64835353
I don’t see any proof of distance since he’s lied about shooting at 15 when he really shot at 12 before

>>64834787
>>64835363
I NEED to find somewhere that has a shitty rainy season in place of winter but still experiences a distinct spring, summer, and fall. I am fucking done with snow and single digit temps bros.

>>64835435
Does not exist.

>>64835439
What's the closest I can get in the lower 48 US states?

>>64835441
Charleston SC

>>64835441
North Florida

>>64835391
I doubt it was even 12, looked like 5 or 7 yards to me. 15 FEET maybe.

>>64835435
Utah, winters have been discontinued, but there's spring, summer and fall, and a big desert where you can shoot guns and look great in your fde gear. We're full though.

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Drinking an asahi dry now

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>>64835435
>>64835441
Western Pennsylvania.
It rains way too goddamn much all year round, winters are either the grim frostbitten vvoods that black metal songs are made ov or unreasonably mild, but it has the other stuff you are asking for.

Surprisingly loose gun laws for a blue state pretending to be a purple state, but I am not confident that is going to last past next year.
>t. chadsylavanian

>>64835441
Probably GA or SC (I live in NC). You'll still get snow and surprise freezes, and when you DO get snow or ice, everything grinds to a halt. It's not much better desu. I'm in NC and I'm good with snow and ice driving because I spent time in Finland with family as a boy, but I stay in when there's snow and ice on the roads because 95% of drivers are completely clueless spastics any time there's a little bit of powder on the road. The worst are the retards in AWDs and pickup trucks who think that 4WD means you can just drive at normal speeds.

>>64835370
>Deutschland.
Well buddy if I were you I'd just stockpile

>>64835490
>Western Pennsylvania
We will be brothers in the future war for the succession of Western NY.

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>>64835218
Haha

>>64835502
Oh, I fucking hope so. Eastern PA and Western PA really ought to be two separate states.

Everything I have heard about upstate New York is that it is basically a shitty communist version of small town PA. And small town PA kinda sucks in its own way, even without gun control or socialism.

>>64834229
Most phones have a stopwatch with a timer, so I feel like we can still do drills with a par time. If a stimulus is needed, maybe something like the pistol wizard dry fire timer could be used?

Thoughts on osight as a carry optic?

>5 years into owning funs
>mainly into handguns
>got ok at shooting but lost interest in the past couple years
>own bunch of weird but mostly decent stuff that I bought because I'm a hipster
>want to get serious about shooting again
>look at all my hipster shit and see nothing I want to actually commit to
I'm gonna sell a lot of my hipster stuff and commit to one or 2 handguns. I think I'm gonna go with a DA/SA and a Striker gun. Any ideas?

I don’t keep track of how many rounds my guns have gone through.

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>>64835561
I used to with picrel. Now I know it's 750-850ish but I no longer keep an exact count.

extended slide releases are a meme, break in the gun a little and will work as intended

>>64834212
>japanese beer
>look inside
>made in italy

>>64835559
>DA/SA
If it's for concealed carry, I recommend any 9mm hammer fired gun made by HK. I carry the P2000SK and the P30. They also make those in .40 if that's your thing.

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Apparently CLP can cause some finishes to discolor? Anyone know what chemical in CLP causes this so I can avoid it?

>>64835624
That's a Nighthawk thing, not a CLP thing.

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>>64834660
Shield Sights have clear roofed sights if you want more options.

>>64835589
>If it's for concealed carry
It will be, mostly. I'm gonna try to stick to compact guns that are big enough to be usable but still conceal decently. Training on a full size gun if I never carry one seems silly, and I hate literally every subcompact that has ever been manufactured. I might buy one full size as a range/fun gun.

>>64835283
The irony is my first try was the best and the rest are worse (partly because my handloaded ammo is bad and leads my barrel)
>>64835353
I have a five round cylinder
interrupting a successful volley to reload is hard and I didn’t want to fuck up my nice target
>>64835391
You’ve got a history of making up hysteric claims like “sparks from shooting the floor” when a frame by frame shows just how desperate you are
Say something useful or ask me out (obviously no)
Whatever you do just stop trying to get my attention in this pathetic way.

>>64835638
The course of fire calls for six shots you stupid shit, it doesn't matter how many you load or your gun holds. Do it with a fucking black powder single shot for all anyone cares.
>I didn’t want to fuck up my nice target
Yeah obviously. Because you're a disingenuous faggot. Do it again.

>>64835363
>Could you please repost the challenge?
https://files.catbox.moe/son1x9.pdf

>>64835559
Why not keep one of the hipster guns that happens to be a compact concealed carry choice? Do you have that? Pocket carry is concealed carry on easy mode; that is a strong consideration no matter what.
>DA/SA
>hipster
Those are exact same things as far as I am concerned. Eurofaggot shit. I like 1911's and 1911 adjacent guns, but when it comes to concealed carry guns, your favorite is the best.
Best option is what ever gun is the best that (you) can shoot the best excluding any other considerations, whether or not you actually own that gun. Don't be afraid to experiment even if you need to try out someone's else's gun.

>>64835632
The other example I saw was a Dan Wesson

>>64835632
It’s a black nitriding thing, the cosmetic appearance gets fucked. Whatever nighthawk ans DW do to get an even finish and glossy in nighthawk’s case gets fucked by most solvents. They say a black nitrided gun actually doesn’t need to be cleaned that well since how corrosive resistant black nitride is so raping your gun with solvents isn’t needed

>>64835650
Thank you kindly.

>>64835666
It's definitely not just nitriding. Gen 1-4 Glocks, M&Ps, Springfields, Walthers all are ferritic nitrocarburized, and you don't see CLP eating those finishes.

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>>64835677
Nitriding is a huge catch all term for whatever it is, those nitride finishes don’t look like this. CLP isn’t eating the finish, it just clouds it and makes it look like shit wherever the solvent touched

>>64835638
I have no idea who you are talking about but here is you lying about group distances
https://desuarchive.org/k/thread/63598475/#63600524

In another post you admit to lying
https://desuarchive.org/k/thread/63600828/#63600894

This all started when you attacked some guy for posting his security guard qualification targets saying you could do better one handed with a .45 at twice the distance (which you can’t)

>>64835645
It’s easier when it’s just one mag/cylinder since a volley is walking your fire. But whatever, I’ll play along and pull out my buffalo bore wc since those never miss and outdo my last submission

>>64835699
Yeah you’re being hysteric and your screenshot is me correcting myself.
Pathetic way to seek my attention DESU

>>64835714
You claim for months that you shot at 12 yards but when you attacked some guy who shot better than you you needed it to be “twice” the distance and suddenly said 14. Kill your self you stupid fuck. Your father hates you. Your mother thinks you’re trans. You are a sickly faggot who could not follow simple fucking directions on the paper that said to shoot 6 shots. You are a pathetic waste of space. listen to Cadence Owen on how to actually shoot a gun properly or something

damn, that archive shit is actually pretty damning, lol

So I did a steel challenge match for the first time.

Great fun. Was in the top 10 for center fire and almost won the draw category (of 5 people) despite drawing from concealment and the other guy drawing from a competition rig. Great use of 4 hours to only shoot for 4 minutes, I now know of so many things I need to work on for my shooting.

>>64835723
>seething numale rant
Truly 21st century men are a people in decline.
I try to follow the best male aspects of the last centuries and what noir and Byronic would do is not give a fuck and just do.
I document my shooting. Keep seething about your fellow man instead of doing.

I’m sure your offense archeology is fun or something?

>>64835817
16* minutes of shooting,

>>64835723
> sickly
I run a mile a day
I’m willing to bet you’re in worse cardiovascular health lol

>>64835638
>bad and leads my barrel
This was your first time handloading .44 Special? Trial and error, I suppose. The important thing is that you didn't blow up your gun!

I really want one of those FK Brno pistols but 7.5 is proprietary meme round...

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>>64835874
They sell conversions (I think comes with one in the box too) for 10mm, 9mm. Allegedly the 10mm feeds both .40 and 10mm from the same mags and barrel. For the BRNO PSD I believe. The field pistol is an actual meme.

>>64835923
>The field pistol is an actual meme
Poorfag problems

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>>64835930
For what I lack in weird European pistols I have in good guns

>>64835940
>ligma with leather
how does that work?

Want a new 32 with a threaded barrel, what are my options? Not interested in anything from Beretta or Walther but then what am I left with?

>>64835949
well

more comfortable but you lose that positive retention click of kydex. I would not do it with a striker fired gun.

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>>64835861
Second time desu but first time with lead scrap I cast as bullets
I might get a 429 sizer and powder coat them.

Using 5.5gr of hp38 too. It’s very sooty
Idk why
I’m definitely saving money as it’s now sub 10$ for 50 but the quality is far inferior to commercial

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>>64835958
US armament co sells threaded colt 1903/1908 barrels
I’ll buy one eventually

>>64836029
>$250 + Gun
No thanks. Would sooner convert a BG2.0 or LCP Max, but I'm not confident either would run well with even a 2oz suppressor.

>>64836042
>lcp
They’re not 32
Get a PPKsd or a tomcrack idc

>>64836044
>convert

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>>64834212
ChatGPT told me to get these 3 guns(and a P365XL Spectre Comp but that's not available at my store) for CC and slap HOLOSUN EPS Carrys on them. Thoughts?

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>>64835874
>>64835923
Problem with the 10mm setup is it's REALLY difficult if not impossible to cram the mag to capacity. Something about the case geometry, idk, the 7.5s go in no problem to 16 rounds but 10mm starts getting hard after 10 rounds and becomes almost impossible at 12+. It doesn't matter for a range gun, but if you were carrying one you'd have the bulk of an extra inch of empty mag. idk if the Compact fixed this

9mm mags go to 17 easy though, and as long as you use very spicy ammo works great for just blasting on the cheap

>>64835958
vz.61? lol

>>64836114
They're all fine
>but that's not available at my store
Whichever you pick it's almost guaranteed you'll pay 20% less online even after shipping and transfer, if not even less. Seriously use gun.deals to at least see what the price difference is

>>64836123
>Whichever you pick it's almost guaranteed you'll pay 20% less online even after shipping and transfer, if not even less. Seriously use gun.deals to at least see what the price difference is
What do you mean whichever I pick? I'm getting all 3
According to gun.deals, I can MAYBE save $10 each after shipping/transfer, which isn't worth it imo. For reference, I'm shopping on GrabAGun which is listed on gun.deals and I can pick up locally.

>>64836123
>vz.61? lol
I expected as much. Guess I'll just make something myself.

>>64835666
Solvents arent just solvents, i think its rather a additiv that fucks the finish. Bases or Phonsphonates might be the cause

>>64835559
I'm going to tell you this:
>1911
>DA/SA 9mm
>Striker 9mm
>.357 revolver
>CCW Striker 9mm
>Ruger Mark 4

>>64835589
>Made in Italy
More like made in Wisconsin, last time I had that brew it kind of sucked, but I'll give it another chance next pay cycle.

>>64836243
So nobody here knows what does it then, and it might be an ingredient that isn't even required to be listed on the MSDS. Damn

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>>64835559
p226 Da/sa and a glock 19
Completely different functioning handguns in lots of ways, both guns are really fun to just shoot because of how their triggers feel and function, both are extremely reliable and durable.

>>64836114
Any of those including the 365 with an eps is going to do you well

>>64836408
Not him but I'd love to get a MK25 P226

Is there a holographic RSMC-footprint sight? I heard they starburst less than red dots. My vortex ccw's starbursting has gotten worse. My green CT micro less so.

>>64836509
No

Maybe I shouldn't be asking /k/ for fashion advice, but how do you dress with a shoulder holster? I've been thinking about getting one for a while and don't want to look like a weirdo. I usually wear some sort of zip up jacket since it's cold so I guess it wouldn't be a problem now. During spring/summer I wear a thinner jacket or a short sleeve button up

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>>64836521

Does anyone here have a Dan Wesson Model 15 with all the different barrels and the tool for changing them? I see them all the time in stores for cheap and they look beautiful, but I wonder if it's worth it if I don't want to shell out for the whole set

I have a proposal for February challenge.
Someone else can do the fine details.
How about a Mozambique drill of some kind?
Like 10 yards or so.
Less than a second between shots.
Either a silhouette or 2 targets, one on top of the other.

>>64834716
Give me an honest review of your gen6. I’m either gonna buy a gen6 17 or an H&K P30.

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>>64834229
if people played by the honors system then it wouldn't matter, but I cannot be arsed to setup a camera in the indoor range booth and do all the video editing.
>>64834269
You the guy who was posting his failed attempts as well? Congrats, man! You got it done, and with irons to boot!

Couldn't accomplish it myself, but was a fun challenge. I will have to go to the range more often during the off-season and try this again.
>>64834660
do they make one in that Game Boy clear purple?
>>64836643
Should be okay, so long as the ranges have no problem with
>Less than a second between shots.

>>64836607
Do prescription glasses help? You can get safety glasses with prescription. Holographic sights from what I know are just eotechs and vortex uh-1, they are huge and I don't think they will like being on a pistol slide.

>>64836676
>Do prescription glasses help?
Barely on the red, but just enough on the green.

>>64836684
Get a better prescription. I'm a pilot and have 20/20 vision, they never test you for stigmata for your medical though. As I've aged I've developed a worsening astigmatism but am still 20/20. During night flying all of the little lights are little smears and it's annoying, though not really that problematic. I got a set of prescription glasses for night flying (and driving) that make all of the lights from smears to almost perfect little orbs like they should be. You need to go to an eye doc that has a machine that measures the roundness of your eye instead of just the typical "is lens one or lens two better"

>>64836691
This, and, if possible, order glasses in their office, so they can measure frame orientation on the head, and map that to the lens, instead of just giving cylindrical correction and pupil distance.

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>>64836138
>I'm getting all 3
Oh. Wut. Why? They all serve exactly the same niche and none of them are particularly nice shooting at the range because of the size
>grabagun locally
Dang that's sweet though, party on

>>64836142
fwiw you can have just about any pistol threaded via Tornado Technologies or Ecco Machine. I like Ecco better if he'll do whichever model you pick, it's cheaper and faster. That PSD was done by him in fact, and my vz was done by Tornado

I liked the idea of having a shooting challenge for small guns. Like, it’s gotta be smaller than a Glock 19. Would still need to determine a course of fire, though.

I don’t think people will do mozambique/bill drill related challenges, because most ranges won’t allow it. Also, because practically nobody here owns a shot timer, it becomes a question of honesty, too

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>>64836438

I love mine, the original P22X series pistols are wonderful shooters.

>>64836424
Thanks
>>64836934
Honestly just because why the fuck not. I have disposable income

>>64836407
Correct you cant avoid it, a MSDS wont save you. My Cleaner is multiple time more brutal than CLP but its not fuckimg up any finish, its just there to fuck up carbon.

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>>64836961
>I have disposable income
Not for long with that sort of attitude.

>>64836972
Oh well, then that means I have 3 additional methods of suicide. I let myself splurge on one purchase every month. Last month was a car, this month it's just 3 handguns, optics, and a can for my super safe AR pistol. I don't really spend much money other than that.

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>>64836987
kek
What car?

>>64836987
One of those things is not like the others unless youre buying a salvage car.

>>64837002
Most guns hold value better than most cars. At least used. The only cars that hold value are rare/exclusive ones and classics. Just about any gun that isn't a piece of crap holds value pretty well if you buy used and don't overpay.

>>64836994
Jeep Wrangler 392
>>64837002
I don't buy cars often because I hate losing money when selling cars(ironic, I know), so I'm probably not gonna do that again for a while. Btw I'm autistic.

>>64837011
>Jeep Wrangler 392
Oh yeah you're definitely gonna lose money on that. Congrats though, enjoy. I always thought modern jeeps needed a V8 instead of the nasty V6. They're too big for I4s now, the old little 4cyl jeeps were peak though.

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>>64836961
I'd be lyin if I said I haven't done it

But I usually have ulterior motives

>>64837025
look at the groyperous proportions on the one fifth from the right
jesus

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>>64836000
Checked
>very sooty Idk why
I thought one of the reasons why .44 Special lead casts look like piston heads is to improve the seal between bullet and case

>>64836657
Indeed and thank you, anon– is your pistol DAO? Shooting with that single-handed must be brutal! I don't think anyone would blame you for throwing in the towel and focusing on more practical drills

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>>64837041
Latina gun

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>>64837011
>392
Fucking based.

>have wanted to try a P250 for years due to Counter-Strike
>get my hands on one yesterday
>frame feels cheap
>terrible ergos
>abysmal trigger

Never meet your heroes, kids

>>64837252
Similar experience for me with the USP. The DA trigger is terrible.

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>>64836653
>I’m either gonna buy a gen6 17 or an H&K P30.
i haven't shot my gen6 yet but i am a longtime p30 owner. they are super different guns. i'm not a guy who is sensitive to triggers (my glocks are all stock) but the p30's is like horrifically bad. unless you really, specifically want a hammer fired HK, get the glock.

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Anyone bought a pistol from Bass Pro before? My work just gave me $500 in gift cards and I have a few hundred burning a hole in my pocket so I figured I'd buy a new pistol. I wouldn't say no to a rifle but it all looks like fudd shit on their site.
Is Bass Pro legit for pistol sales?

>>64837325
Bass Pro also sell the LTT 92s and PX4s. They should also have the 92X Inox

>>64837325
Bass Pro has everything, so visit your local one

>>64837325
Sometimes Bass Pro has some really odd guns but most of them are new. Yeah just go to your local one

>>64836114
I would replace canik with p365, hellcat, or that jewish micro compact instead

>>64837325
I bought from Cabela's using the same flow, they ship to your local store, send email, and then you can pick up and do 4473. They are a bit more uptight than regular FFL and have you sign weird stuff like, "I understand how to operate this firearm safely" and they throw in an extra trigger lock. They might be dealing with a lot of first time buyers.
>Is Bass Pro legit for pistol sales?
New ones are typically msrp, but they tend to have good deals used.

>>64837314
I love how the P30 feels in my hand. I also love how durable they are. Looking to replace my gen4 17.

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>>64836953
>I liked the idea of having a shooting challenge for small guns
>Would still need to determine a course of fire
I kinda want to make up my own meme target/challenge. I have some ideas, but I've never designed a shooting course before. I'm worried it'll either be too easy, too hard, or it'll be too much of a meme and no one will want to do it.

>>64837263
Why would you carry a DA/SA gun with the hammer down when you can do cocked and locked? Or did you do a big dumb dumb and buy one that was DAO/Decocker only.

>>64837505
I wish I could carry my 92FS cocked and locked

>>64837525
Bro, have you heard of the 92XI?

>>64837505
Most DA/SA guns dont do cocked and locked from my experience.
Either way you just do DA once and then proced to SA the remaining rounds

>>64837184
It is indeed DAO, but if you train with it enough you get used to it. I used to do archery regularly as well, so I guess drawing with the same fingers helps with grip strength or something?
Still gonna do this challenge, just not in the allotted time. Gotten sick, so no range trips for a week at least.
>>64837570
if some shitter is comin at you, less stuff to fumble with while in a panic is always better. Unless you have arthritis or some other ailment making 8lbs of index finger force impossible to work through, DAO/decocker is perfectly valid.

>>64837591
Training overrides panic.

>>64837597
until something unexpected happens. Then it is panic again.

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>>64837505
Because I would buy a .45 1911/2011 if I was going to carry hammer cocked. The USP with a trigger job and the upgrades is close to 1911 performance but the 1911 trigger is still better.

If you’re carrying cocked and locked you bought the wrong gun IMO. Hammer down is a great way to carry since almost foolproof safety wise. You can reholster with the force of 1000 suns as long as you perform hammer control.

>>64837647
You'll probably miss then if you can't function at a level of subconscious muscle memory

>>64837574
USPs do and that's what we're talking about dipshit

>>64837325
>Anyone bought a pistol from Bass Pro before?
Yes, it was a horrible experience overall. Dumbest fuckers I've ever met behind the gun counter. They found a way to make a simple 15-30 minute transaction take upwards of 2 hours. And it's not like it was busy either, there was one other customer there buying a pistol at the same time I was.

I seem to be in the minority though, so it's probably just my local bass pro that's staffed by imbeciles

>>64837325
>>64837719
I will add one positive: they had a reasonable selection of pistols. That's the only reason I was there in the first place, they were the only gun store in my area that had a P30 in stock

>>64834212

>>64837325
that is a bad deal.

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Based asahi

>>64837671
that may still be salvageable, seeing as I can shoot two more in the same second.

This reminds me, there should be someplace I could go to practice hip-fire/ firing from retention outside of a LARP or private lessons. I cannot do so at my local range, but I am having difficulty finding public land to shoot on as well. What resources are there to find such locations to practice?

In any case if you are confident in your ability to use a SAO then stick with. I am more confident in my 92 D Centurion than I am my Sig P938.

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>>64837505
>do a big dumb dumb and buy one that was DAO/Decocker only
You shut your whore mouth!

DA/SA is God's greatest gift to mankind.

Why should I spend time mastering the DA pull on a DA/SA pistol if I could spend the same amount of time mastering a striker pull, especially given that striker triggers are getting better?

>>64837814
It's nice being able to dryfire without racking the slide after every pull

>>64837832
I can think of a few reasons
>mastering a long and heavy DA pull will improve your shooting on other trigger types
>if carrying, you can thumb the hammer on reholster and it's significantly safer than a striker gun
>generally more resistant to ND than a striker gun, without incorporating manual safety
>dry fire is easier when you don't have to rack the slide after every pull
>can strike a hard primer a second time immediately without racking the slide

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Jesus Christ how bad was a little bit of ice?

>>64837905
Fedex just fucking blows in general, dude.

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>>64837905
>>64837909
I’m dealing with the same shit with the USPS.

>>64837811
That's not a USP you stupid illiterate nigger. I'll explain for your dumb ass. USPs come in multiple versions, anon is complaining about the DA pull. USPs are available in DA/SA with safety, DAO, DA/SA with decocker only. The DA trigger pull is irrelevant in most USPs unless you're restriking because you can carry cocked and locked, UNLESS you bought one of the cop models that is DAO or DA/Decocker only; which is big dumb dumb.

>>64837922
>The DA trigger pull is irrelevant in most USPs unless you're restriking because you can carry cocked and locked
NTA but you're assuming people with the V1 USP (DA/SA with safety and decocker) will keep it cocked and locked just because they can. For example I keep my V1 loaded with hammer down and safety off

>>64837663
Less capacity for a 1911. Still less on a 2011 but not as bad.

>>64837905
Yeah no idea how these Texans are even still on this planet based on how long it's taking them to ship one fucking item to me. Everywhere else on the east coast getting raped by snow sent my shit right away.

>>64837909
Nah Fedex is goated. Only company to regularly ship on time as promised and even deliver sooner. UPS has delayed so many of my fucking packages in the past year even when paying for 2 day.

>>64837325
Bass pro has a really good selection, but an anal processing due to them being one of the largest outdoors stores that sells guns, so expect about 10 minutes of finding the gun you want and 30 minutes-
2 hrs of waiting for paperwork to clear. You can find a fuck ton of really nice used guns their since Big box stores are boomers first choice

>>64836691
>>64836725
thanks bros

>>64837921
I want to order a USP-S through USPS

>>64837325
I went to Bass Pro for my first gun. I have no complaints about the quality of the firearm (Beretta 92 GTS). They do make you jump through a few extra hoops and the process takes way too fucking long. I bought another gun afterwards at a local shop and what took me 1.5 hours at Bass Pro took me maybe 15-20 minutes there.

>>64837937
>NTA but you're assuming people with the V1 USP (DA/SA with safety and decocker) will keep it cocked and locked just because they can. For example I keep my V1 loaded with hammer down and safety off
Yeah, I'm assuming that because it's stupid to subject yourself to the DA pull if you don't have to.

>>64838025
Some people prefer cocked and locked, that's fine. It sounds like you have a skill issue, my friend

>>64837591
>if some shitter is comin at you, less stuff to fumble with while in a panic is always better
let's not pretend 1911 style controls are something you need to "fumble" with. Like that other anon said, just train for it. It comes down to preference, and nothing else. DA/SA won't save you if you're not prepared.

I safety my 92FS everytime I holster and I flick the safety with my thumb on every draw. It's second nature to me.

>>64837922
I didn't see USP >>64837505
But otherwise, nice word salad, angry guy.

>>64838086
But Reddit says that in a real confrontation you will turn into a retard and forget all your training with your safety, thus ensuring you are killed in the streets.

>>64838104
Fucking retard, I replied to >>64837263
Please try and pay attention. I'm surprised the new captcha didn't filter your dumb nigger ass out

Curious how the guy literally asbergersing out about DA/SA for the last couple of threads has not posted a single picture of his DA/SA or USP while all the actual DA/SA owners around him have been doing so.

>>64837591
>less stuff to fumble with while in a panic is always better.
Do you want your gun to go off automatically too so you don't have to fumble with the trigger? This anti thumb safety whining /k/ does shows how little most of /k/ actually shoots.

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>>64838123
Here is my USP, I think the DA pull is terrible

>>64838161
You're not the guy.

>>64838163
I was the guy who said the DA pull was terrible, SA pull can be very good though

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>>64838123
I don't have a USP because I don't like them enough to pay HKtax. This is what I do have. Now kindly learn to follow reply chains like a human being and shut the hell up.

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>>64835624
>Apparently CLP can cause some finishes to discolor? Anyone know what chemical in CLP causes this so I can avoid it?
You're on the internet. Did you consider using it to look up the answer to your question?

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>>64838118

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>>64835206
Based fellow "poor" collector

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>>64837703
>Most DA/SA
I guess someone can't read

>>64837767
Asahi is amazing, I had the pleasure of drinking it on tap in Japan

>>64838302
I'm not talking about "most DA/SA" you dumbass. Or I would have said that.

>>64838316
Ok but the average DA/SA doesn't

>>64838302
>post is about the USP
>B-but you HAVE to talk about muh beretta too
go away berettatroon

>>64838321
The Beretta 92FS is the only comparable DA/SA I have to the USP, and I have three of them.
All my other DA/SA guns are revolvers

>>64838320
Irrelevant to a post complaining about a specific gun. If you most a post complaining about Glock triggers sucking, I don't hop in and tell you that not ALL striker triggers suck and start sperging about a PPQ or something.

>>64838330
The original argument was about DA/SA compared to SAO compared to DAO.

This whole conversation has gone to the trolls, unfortunately.

>>64838326
What if you didn't have breakfast this morning?

>>64838411
Takeaway: P250 and USP DA triggers are buns. A USP worth buying is DA/SA and has a safety so there's no good reason to put up with its DA trigger unless you need a restrike which is rare.

BTW USP triggers aren't great in SA either, which is one of the reasons I don't want one enough to pay HK tax for one.

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>>64834390
Nice.

>>64838454
Dammit meant to quote
>>64834393
Not
>>64834390

>>64838434
I'd buy lunch? I've had days where I skip breakfast with just black coffee

>>64838454
>all that money
>camera is as soft as a rabbit's ears and has as much grain as Wichita Kansas
kek

>>64838463
Meh, zero fucks given... I despise cell phones.

>>64838474
So why take the picture with a cell phone if you don't like them? Cameras still exist.

>soft as rabbit ears
>as much grain as Wichita Kansas
The fuck

>>64838479
>So why take the picture with a cell phone if you don't like them? Cameras still exist.
What part of zero fucks given don't you understand?

>>64838500
You gave enough fucks to reply twice, and enough fucks about phones to buy one. Nothing more.

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>>64838436
when you say it like that, it makes some form of sense, if we go the customer being right in matters of carry state taste are concerned.

This guy though >>64838086

>>64838086
https://youtu.be/47Yxa9IeJEc?si=nurAigv6PI-nUUX2

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>>64837041

Do you need moon clips for a 9mm LCRx?

>>64835968
What leather holster is that?

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>>64838454
Cute. Get on my level, poorfag.

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I decided to replace my "connector" with an OEM 5.5lb because the OEM 4.5lb "minus" didn't have enough of a wall which was the same issue with the Ghost Ultimate 3.5lb and Edge before that

>>64837591
>train with it enough you get used to it
>drawing with the same fingers helps with grip strength
No doubt about it– I never noticed before how good the Beretta looks without a hammer spur. Your 92D is more aesthetic than the 92FS
>Gotten sick, so no range trips
Dreadful, get well soon!

>>64838829
>Your 92D is more aesthetic than the 92FS
Your fed ass is trolling.

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There must be a way to make this lighting work for handgun pics... I just took this photo a minute ago because I realized the color coordination in the warm light. I have a light box sitting around I also intend to use for other things, but IDK, this looks great. I just wish I knew how to apply it to photos of muh guns.

>>64838838
nice photo, anon

>>64838838
All boxes are light if you work out enough

>>64838845
Thank you.

>>64838771
yes

>>64838771
yes

>>64838781
Ronin Leather Works

brown leather with brown elephant hide, would have gotten brown shark skin but that's too hard to get these days

https://roninleatherholstersllc.com/Cms/index.php/Aegis-holsters

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>>64835581
Based M&P enjoyer

Recommendations for the cheapest red dot that will fit a K-series footprint?

My dad has grip strength issues and is having trouble using irons so he wants to try a red dot for both leverage on the slide and aiming. Yes, I know they're all shit and I've told him so - they break, they don't hold zero, etc. He doesn't care. He just wants to see if he likes shooting a red dot and would rather buy one for the hell of it than go rent one at a range.

>>64839045
The stripped down model of the Holosun 407K should be sub 200, 170 even, when you say cheap, how cheap do you mean

>>64839045
Get a 407k, don't go cheaper than that.

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>>64839002

so the gen 6 is just gen 5 with stippling?

>>64839052
>when you say cheap, how cheap do you mean
Like airshit/amazon cheap, preferably $80 or below.

>>64839056
If he puts half a dozen mags through his gun with the red dot on there and discovers that he can rack the slide and doesn't have to struggle with the irons then he's more than willing to drop a few hundred bucks on a good one. I think he'd rather just spend the money on a toy than deal with the potential hassle of returning or reselling a more expensive sight if it turns out that he does not in fact like shooting a red dot.

>>64839064
Well, it has a single coil RSA instead of the old double one. And a flat-faced trigger. The big feature is the optics mounting system.

>>64839066
FYI, you might want to look in to the Smith and Wesson Equalizer/Shield EZ, which are made specifically for people with lower grip strength. Or just get a revolver.

Tell your dad to not look for the dot, just hold the gun in front of him and look through the glass at the target. The dot should just appear in his field of vision. Don't look for the dot.

Don't look for the dot.

>>64839075
>FYI, you might want to look in to the Smith and Wesson Equalizer/Shield EZ, which are made specifically for people with lower grip strength.
Yeah, he looked at one of those recently.

>Or just get a revolver.
He's been accumulating revolvers for about half a century at this point.

>Tell your dad to not look for the dot, just hold the gun in front of him and look through the glass at the target. The dot should just appear in his field of vision. Don't look for the dot.
>Don't look for the dot.
Already did that. He's done everything but actually get some range time with a gun that has one and he asked me to find him something cheap to play around with before deciding if he wants to spend a few hundred bucks on a good one.

The main reason I asked here instead of just ordering something is that I figured there might be some lurking giga-poorfag who can point me in the direction of a poverty-tier sight with the correct slide cut so that's one less thing I have to do.

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Who makes a good holster for the ruger sp101 2.25"? I was gonna get a vedder for it but they don't offer one for the sp101

>>64834212
I wish costco sold asahi

>order ammo online
>sits as a pending transaction for my credit card for a week
>check this morning
>gone from my statement
>looks like it's still being shipped
Hmm

>>64839354
Chase? Same thing happened to me, then the charge reappeared the next Friday.

>>64839358
Discover.

>>64838959
>when you have to tell people its elephant because they wouldn't have known and you spend an extra 200 bucks for it

>>64837325
Try to buy the last stocked/showcase counter pistol that you like and it will probably be $150-250 off msrp. The nicer LTTs usually dont get fingerfucked as much but good luck on your glonks and s&ws.

>>64835093
To be fair I'd much rather have a Sig Romeo clear and trust it over that crimson trace, but buy one if you like it and just put it on a range gun.

>>64839520
The choice being made isn't that crimson trace I got as part of a promo when I bought the gun OR a romeo clear, it's a romeo clear vs everything else on the market in that sub $300 ish. Right now the EPS Core is winning. The plastic CT red dot has worked fine to acclimate me to using a pistol optic and has lasted 7-800 rounds now without any issues like losing zero, now it has lived out its useful life and is being replaced. I just like that romeo clear because of the pics.

The Black Hole in Memphis spat out my gun at the local Fedex office and its on the way. Complaining on 4chan works.

>>64837263
Why would anyone complain about a trigger on a duty gun is beyond me. It just has a lot of mush followed with nice tactice click. It's heavy but it's not as bad as people claim.

>>64839611
People expect a 700-800 dollar gun to have an appropriate trigger, if USPs were 500 no one would care.

>>64839715
USP should be a $1500 gun.
It doesn’t filter out the poors enough.
No one I know has ever missed a shot with a USP because it’s simply that accurate. You would have to purposefully shoot beside the target to miss.
Not even being facetious.

https://www.gunbroker.com/item/1137272491

Burt, I'm sure you've seen this but on the offchance you didn't, wanted to share it

>>64839715
We are really spoiled by how good modern handguns are. Some 30 years ago just being reliable for that price would put handgun on a short list. Rumors of guns that don't feed certain kinds of hollow point ammo, needing ramp polishing or break in periods, proprietary mounting rails, heavy ass triggers, have precipitated on the bottom of phpbb forums, full of broken links to imageshack and photobucket. Nowadays we really have to go out of our way to get a shitty gun, but vidiya gamers and milsurp appreciators regularly try go for them still.

>>64839611
Because compared to the competition, like the 92, PX4, P22X, it’s bad

Which holo sight for a pistol has the largest lense? Looking to get into competitive shooting; my buddies Trijicon SRO is pretty big, didn't know if there were any bigger. Leupold's DeltaPoint Pro looks big but I can't find definitive measurements on the lense.

>>64839876
Holosun 507 pro max

>>64839876
507Comp
Defender XL
Cylee Bull
Various SRO knock offs

The 507Comp and Defender XL are good to go

Window size is a crutch but a very welcome crutch

>>64839715
But the trigger feels good and it only gets better with each box of ammo you shoot.
>>64839752
Yes.

>>64839876
Wait for the cyelee chameleon flex

I just bought a full size 4.5 inch RXM, did I fuck up? Should I have gotten the gen 6 glock 17 instead? Help me cope, or not.

>>64839808
>PX4
The same trigger as USP, maybe even a bit worse. Not perfect, not terrible.

>>64840157
They’re all the exact same, except gen 3, gen 3 is best.

>>64840159
My buddy will just not invest in a trigger for his Px4 .40 even though he loves the match in my USP. I guess it makes since, because the trigger is over half the value of the gun.

>>64840157
>I just bought a full size 4.5 inch RXM, did I fuck up
No, that was a very wise decision. Now, I don't know about the slide, but you start off with Magpul grip, and can move fcu to a different color/size/aluminum module, and it's Glock gen 3 compatible. How does it shoot? I'm thinking of picking one up as well, with intention to get an Icarus aluminum grip. Gen 3 also never had a 47 style slide that fit on 19 frames like that.

>>64840167
I would love to try custom PX4/USP from Langdon.

>>64840159
I had a LTT’d HK (gray guns short reset) with match kit (replacing sear spring, trigger spring, and hammer) so the LTT polished hammer strut and trigger bar were still there versus a LTT PX4. The PX4 has a better all around trigger. The LTT HK SA with the match kit I think is better but the PX4’s reset is 2-3mm while the gray guns short reset is way longer. The HK’s DA pull still sucked and the match kit made the reset less positive.

Stock to stock, the PX4 is better. I grade things based on the DA and the SA.

>>64840173
Not sure yet, still waiting for it to get shipped to my LGS.

>>64840167
The trigger bar is only 70-80 bucks and is most of the trigger job’s functional upgrade. A lower weight hammer spring will also do a lot too.

>>64840213
also the px4 literally has the same trigger as the 92

>>64840225
>Just spend half the value of a $200 gun to make it better!

>>64840213
That’s because you put that stupid grayguns trigger in there, made the whole thing worse.

>>64840246
The metal gray guns trigger is better than the stock polymer coated metal trigger and had minimal overtravel without adjustment.

Or are you talking about the gray gun’s short reset kit?

>>64840157
Now you get to spend every thread telling yourself and others that the RXM is just as good, anon.

>>64840146
The trigger on mine flexes as I pull it, but if you wanna buy it for 1500 Ill do it.

question for you guys. I'm using American Gunner 90gr XTP (1000fps at muzzle) in my bone stock first gen LCP. I should be fine with the stock recoil spring, right?

>>64840276
What DC you have? I have on wof ghe newer USPs and it doesn't flexes at all. Just constant pull.

>>64840268
I’m talking both, you combined a trigger that’s like 5 times heavier than the stock Match one with a bunch of different parts and came out with a frankengun, my USP the trigger reset is so loud and positive you can hear it over range noise. It’s no wonder it didn’t feel right once it was all together.

>>64840302
Its a stock LEM USP

>>64840309
>LEM

There’s your problem, let’s take the worst part of the USP, the DA, and make it the ONLY FEATURE. Absolutely retarded.