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>>64842170

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It appears that 9mm Parabellum has a base damage rate of 33% with a x2 multiplier for CNS strikes

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Mateba eat your heart out
https://www.gunbroker.com/item/1152167695

>>64842214
nigga got wigged fr fr

>>64842248
Relisted again, huh? Last time I saw one of these actually sell it went for $350, they're uncommon but it's not like it's a one of a kind. It's also absolutely not a prototype, real retail product, they sold over 100 of them.

I'm going to spend more money on another gun I don't need. I guess I am just a consoooomer at heart.

>>64842309
All you need to do is create some vague rationalization of how the gun has a practical function in your life. If its a handgun then perhaps it will be your backup survival handgun for your family if the world ends.

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I made a meme shooting challenge for shitposting material. I've never made a shooting course before, so I don't know if it's too easy, too hard, or too boring. Pls give suggestions for improvements.

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>>64842248
I've been fantasizing about top break revolvers that fire from the bottom chamber for many moons, and this is the first time I've heard of this one. It would be neat to see how the action works, but not quite $6000 neat to see it firsthand. At least someone tried it though and I wonder if it was junk or just too awkward to make it into production.

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>>64842170
Don't talk to me, my son or my grandson, ever again!

are hipoints worth owning if for nothing more than the lolz?

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>>64842170
handgonne you say?

>>64842309
I swear people like you are such miserable cunts.
Why can't you just enjoy a hobby?
I like collecting and shooting from mutliple makers and multiple variants.
Hell, there's a solid difference between the Glock 19 Gen 4 and Gen 5

>>64842428
IMO there's better feeling/handling cheapo guns out there now but if you really want one I wouldn't spend more than 100 on one.

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>>64842332

>the boomer RSO watching you shoot a target that says Epstein Didn't Kill Himself Challenge while holding a flashlight 3 different ways in the middle of the day

I’m wondering if early USPs had superior triggers than more modern made ones.
Mine is from the 90s and has a better albeit not incredibly so trigger to my beretta 92fs which is Italian made from the early 2010s and is a trigger I also consider to be good.

>>64842865
Trigger superiority is subjective. Some like crisp break, some like roll. Most people at least agree about reset being short. Typically less weight is more better, but more weight can mask mush.

>>64842170
I want to love modern Pythons but everytime I see that QR code I want to vomit

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I finally pulled the trigger on an SP101 now that they've hit the $600 mark. I've been waiting for them to drop in price forever and I think this will be as good as it gets. I should be picking it up some time next week.

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HG wat's your:
1 - favorite handgun you own
2 - favorite handgun you experienced
3 - worst handgun you experienced

For me:
1 - My Mark 23
2 - Laugo Alium (thanks range richfag)
3 - Luger P08 (was a dream gun, was ruinously disappointed when I finally shot one)
Pic because I like this gun and can't wait for my silencer to come in.

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>>64843250
1. 10mm Predator, when it works. My .45 Elite Professional is close second.
2. MP5SD with an FRT
3. Astra p226 clone

>>64843299
Does the SIG optic work out ok? How long did it survive on that 10mm slide?

Buying a new gun with my goyslave tax return. What should it be out of this list?
>CZ-75b
>92fs
>H&K P30
>Glock 17 gen6
>a second tisas 1911
Currently leaning towards the p30 but open to suggestions

>>64843332
I really like this optic.

It’s survived 2k rounds of 10mm so far. 180 gr 1150-1200 fps loads so 500 ftlbs

>>64843335
What do you already own

>>64843356
>glock 17 gen4
>keltec p32
>m&p 38 model of 1905

>>64843335
How many rifles do you own?

>>64843335
Any of the first 3 guns is a good choice.
Dont buy a Tisas

>>64843335
Whoops, I meant to say first 4 guns.
Pick one from there.
But I would say, in order
>92FS
>Glock 17 Gen 6
>CZ-75B
>HK P30

>>64843335
PSA has a cz75bd on sale for $650 right now.

>>64843250
1. I hate to say it, but my P320 M18. I won't carry it anymore, but I thought it was a great gun.

2. Webley in .38 S&W. Not at all practical, but that top break is a lot of fun.

3. FEG HP clone. Couldn't make it through a single mag with stovepiping. Changed the springs, tried different ammo, nothing helped. Sold it and don't miss it.

>>64843250

>1 - favorite handgun you own
P30SK
>2 - favorite handgun you experienced
P30SK
>3 - worst handgun you experienced
not counting various Saturday night specials, I owned a PX4 Storm that was just completely garbage, top to bottom, I got rid of it after about 3 months

Thinking of getting a 9mm 1911, dont know anything about it. Anyone have one/recommendations.

>inb4 get the .45 caliber
A buddy has one and I find shooting it a pain

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>>64842170
Kinda want a PDP. Anyone have any experience? Read that they're kind of snappy.

>>64843423
It's really snappy, big and blocky too. I kinda hate it. The trigger is also overrated.

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>>64843414
5 inch 9mm 1911s are very smooth shooting guns, the weight + the 1911 slide stroke/recoil spring makes it shoot so good.

But since the gun was never designed for such a short round compared to .45 there are a lot of work arounds to get 9mm to feed from a .45 sized magazine. There are several different styles of 9mm 1911 mags and they have the bullet sit slightly differently inside the mag. Some guns like some brands, some feed from all, if you have trouble feeding try a different style. (Wilson, metal form, Tripp, chip McCormick, etc)

I heavily recommend getting a modern styled one with a beavertail, Novak sights, trigger guard undercut, and if possible one with checkering on the frame.

>>64843414
Get a .45

>>64843414
Buy a platypus. They're double stack so not a true 1911 but they're the best for the money imo. Better than a sprink, though Bert may disagree.

>>64842309
My buddy has splurged on two pistols and now a rifle with a recent windfall. I know for a fact he has gone to the range only a handful of times. He does not have a CCW so it's not like he can tote the former in public let alone the latter. I do not get it. I suppose he likes walking around his flat carrying them?

>>64843430
I'm too gay for .45
>>64843443
>>64843428
Will look into this info thanks

>>64843414
just get a tisas. 1911 cravings are a passing ailment.

>>64843530
Honestly 2011s are so cheap now a 9mm 1911 doesn’t make a lot of sense. The new Kimber Warrior DS is attractively priced and if it’s half the gun that the Kimber 2k11 is it’s probably a good deal. There’s also the prodigy too.

Note to self: NEVER ask /hg/ about 1911s

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>>64843541
Doctor, why hasn’t my 1911 craving passed? Since taking this photo I think I bought a few more…

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Do you guys think optics planet actually has one for sale or are they just yanking my chain.

It’s not the model I want, the ACSS is kind of a meme. But I’ll see if they actually ship it

>>64843530
You don’t really know what you’re asking for, you think it’s as simple as gun, but different caliber, but it’s not. You’re about to learn first hand why 9mm 1911s are either very expensive or the same price as a .45 but don’t function that well out of the box and you’ll need to go though a bunch if different mags and ammo to find the specific combination that it likes.

>>64843660
I don’t think that’s true anymore, 9mm 1911s are very popular and have been figured out by now. I had a Tisas 9mm commander and it fed perfectly except the extractor tension was too low out of the box. It’s a 10 minute job to correct that.

>>64843673
Every 9mm 1911 has failed to function in some way on the range in a range trip that’ve seen, the only exception is .38 Super 1911s. And you simply got lucky.

>>64843552
Mental illness.
You might as well just give me one.

>>64843681
Brands?

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didnt see new bread
>>64837023
Yeah it's in the shop already. lol
>>64837243
I was thinking of getting a fun muscle car but ended up with a europoorean one instead because niggers ruined it for me. Kinda missing my V12 desu
>>64837395
Why?
>jewish micro compact
which one?

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>>64843640
I wouldn't trust them on that. They flat out say "In Stock" if something is actually in stock. If it doesn't say "In Stock" you should never buy from Optics Planert

That's the same price as directly from Primary Arms, why not buy from and trust the actual company directly? At least they won't lie about stock

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>>64843703
Thanks Burt

Because PA does a monthly restock that sells out instantly. I think OP as a distributor gets allocated X models every once in a while, so OP is the only way to “preorder” said optic.

>>64843552
You're the guy who built the double stack 1911 with the weird front cut right? Can you give me a QRD on that/link to your old posts that do? I would like to build a DS 1911 of my own. I'm mainly curious on stuff like on who sells good frames and slides, and how much fitting they require i.e. are the rails deliberately cut oversized for the slots in the slide and I can just manually file them down to the right clearance or will I need to fix my old mill and make a fixture.

>>64843552
That's quite the daily carry, Saltzpyre

>>64842959
No one likes roll

>>64843393
Nigga 650 was full price when i bought mine 8 years ago. This shit sucks.

>>64843727
Rails are cut oversized to allow fitting to your slide

I built JEM and Cheely frames, I’m building JEM frames since they can be stainless and can have a traditional .45 ACP feed ramp. I built a Cheely ramped .45 which seemed to work fine for 400-500 rounds but the ROT is that traditional ramp is better. Ramped frame means you could convert it to any caliber later. JEM could fit a slide to your frame for you, Atlas is now selling paired frame and slide kits.

Rails are oversized for the use of hand tools. I used the evergreen or deep river customs rail stone guide. I spent many hours stoning the rails, very comfy while listening to an audio book. I did everything with hand tools. A hacksaw too.

I’ve used Fusion Firearms barrels, Wilson Combat “drop in” (it’s semi fit), fusion is the only quick ship “custom” barrel source.

>>64843743
So its 29% off from 8 years ago.

>>64843750
Atlas perfect match ignition kits is great. Only slight spring tuning required.

I tried using the Nighthawk Custom Drop in Trigger cassette but it gave hammer follow since it wasn’t compatible with the cheely frame.

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JEM stainless .45 frame
Les Baer slide with IOS cut from dual hammer (very quick turn around)
Wilson “drop in” barrel
EGW bushing I found in my parts drawer that was tight
Atlas perfect match ignition
Wilson slide stop
EGW thumb safety
MJD grip with custom stippling by me that everyone hates, I fucked up the mag catch hole by trying to fit a gen 2 mag catch to a gen 1 hold so I had to fix it with the soldering iron

>>64843209
Love my "hammerless" SP101

go ahead and buy a hogue grip now. $30 on amazon well spent.

>>64843743
>diddy blud forgot about Covid money printing

>>64843750
Also you don’t want to file your rails, they should be stoned so they maintain a perfect surface. I don’t bother hand lapping since I’m not going to nanometer precision. I want shooters not master pieces

>>64843335
Kind of a wildcard take but have a peak at some bigger caliber revolvers, it sounds like you have a very practical core to your collection but otherwise I agree with this anon
>>64843374

>>64843423
I rented one and I was underwhelmed. On the other hand, I put some good groups in that I struggled to get when I first started using my 92. It seems to be a good piece overall, see if you can rent one

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>>64843250
1 - Is the only pistol I own now ._.

2 - The Elite Operator in .45 ACP because it has the /k/omfiest grip angle, trigger and a hi vis front sight compared to anything I ever owned

3 - Some Taurus G2C that would FTF in the additional round with the chamber

>>64842254
Word

>>64843743
Sorry, Biden had to give PPP loans to every brown who wanted a Hellcat and crab legs, so we printed six trillion dollars.

>>64843423
I fingerfucked one at my lgs a few months back and i wouldve gotten it if i was in the market for a bedside gun, havent shot one though and consensus from even my friends who use theirs a lot is that the recoil is tough in a way glocks and m&ps arent

>>64843702
>>jewish micro compact
>which one?
IWI Masada slim

>>64843250
>Favorite handgun I own
My stock 92FS with LOK grips. It fits my hand better than my own dick
>Favorite handgun I 've shot
This might be cheating but my buddy's c96 with all the original parts including the stock. It's so damn cool.
>Worst handgun I've shot
Either a range rental p365 that probably wasn't cleaned or lubed for 20,000 rounds or 509canon's 10mm Hi-Point

>>64843750
>>64843770
Thanks guys. I'm looking for direction for a summer project. Biggest question is what finish I'll get done and who will do it. I would love to do DLC but I'm guessing that will be wildly expensive.

>>64844156
Jarvis customs does PVD coatings like DLC (125 dollars for a frame or slide), DSC also offers them and will polish the sides so you get polished DLC (200 dollars).

Nighthawk charges 500 to DLC the entire gun, 700 I think for polished flats. 350 for black nitride but you’ll be paranoid about any solvents or chemicals getting onto the gun for the rest of your life

>>64844172
Oh that's nowhere near as expensive as I expected. Nice.

What the heck is a 2311? What's the difference between that an a regular 2011?

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Is it too late to join the monthly challenge collage? Excuse the flier

>>64842170
>Magnum edition
>Posts webm of shooting spc tier loads
Many such cases

>>64844304
.45 CYBER is the only round with the stopping power to bring down a raging combat android

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>finally get my number called on the ounce pistol waitlist
>not sure I want one anymore

>>64844316
You gotta pass to get on there bud.

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>>64844325
Can I help? Any questions or worries?

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>>64844304
A 2011 is a trademark held by STi/SVi, no other company can call their gun a 2011. Hence names like “hi-cap”, “double stack 1911”, “DS9/Mac,”, “2K11”, “2311” (witness/girsan), despite being the same frame style and magazine. The 2311 name is split between Turkish 2011s and the oracle P320 mag double stack 1911 thing that’s not actually a 2011 at all.

2011 should refer to a specific style of 2 piece frame and magazines, not as a catch all term for double stack 1911 style guns like the RIA double stacks, the Platypus, or the Fusion firearms thing (feels really nice in the hand).

The 2011 is a frame that has the grip portion be detachable. They can be polymer, steel, or aluminum, or some other alloy. There is a grip module for the 2011 that makes it take CZ75 mags but otherwise all grip modules take the same mags and aren’t caliber dependent.

>>64842214
What about bleeding damage? And HPs should do more bleeding damage.

>>64844329
No you dont since I consider one handed shooting gay so all 6 in the box is fine

>>64844339
You're not in the box.

>>64844335
mostly after seeing Gunbelievable's break so seemingly easily
I understand third bay claims they've redesigned that particular component but it still gives me some trepidation
though the only reason I wanted one was because of how strange it is, so it's probably not a real concern when I'm not really planning on actually using it as a main carry option

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>>64844304
2011 is a trademark of staccato but it's basically just a double stack 1911, they're very similar in design and function. Different manufacturers name them different things because of the trademark. Kimber 2K11, Springfield 1911DS, Girsan 2311. Oracle makes a 2311 too with a breech locking setup with no link instead of a lug locking setup with a link like a 1911. That kind of muddies the water a bit. Pictured.

>>64844339
uhhhh, the black box is all anyone cared about, bro. Seems like you only think one handed shooting is gay because you bite

>>64844340
Good point

But I still let in failures

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>>64844347
I have the very first production unit, before any revisions. Mine was so early in fact that when that Winchester round blew up in it and I took it to Third Bay for inspection*, he replaced my magazine cover with a new iteration just because he could (and left the old one as a spare).

I just surpassed 3,000 rounds. That's 300 folding actuations alone (10 rounds each load), x2 because it's close then open. I've probably done 500 empty actuations just messing with it. That piece never broke. Nothing broke actually.

*As a measure of Third Bay's support, when I told them that they insisted on inspecting it for safety, and were standing by to replace any or all parts, or even the whole unit if anything was damaged. Nothing was.

Then recently I had some loading jams, I talked to them about it and they did a zoom call to diagnose my unit by sight. Everything checked out and they said if it keeps happening they will replace the entire unit. It stopped happening after that coincidentally

tl;dr It's not likely to break, but if it does in my experience so far they'll bend over backwards to fix it

>>64844355
I find it interesting multiple companies have “solved” the problem with the 1911/2011 design by changing the barrel link or the barrel locking lugs or both, and nobody actually cares and they fall flat. Like the Wilson Combat double stack thing, the DWX, the Springfield omega/linkless, and one or two more.

>>64844364
that's good to know, thanks
I'll go through with it then

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>friend wants to get into USPSA competition shooting
>"Alright anon, what gun do you plan to use?"
>"CZ Shadow 2"
>"Then that is what I'll get"
>buy brand new Shadow 2 on Wednesday
>go to range today
>do first 20 shots from 10 yards
>pic related

Goddamn, y'all were right about CZ being quality stuff, this pistol makes me look halfway competent.

>>64844369
I'm not familiar with the Omega, looks like a single stack 10mm? I was under the impression that the the DWX and Oracle 2311 have a different locking mechanism because of the difference in feed geometry when using CZ and P320 magazines, respectively. But then again, the Platypus uses Glock magazines and it still has a 1911 style lock up.

>>64844399
Oh I thought the omega was linkless, I saw omega linkless style guns on gunbroker a few times with wacky double external extractors (both sides).

>>64844419
It is linkless, it's just not double stack like the 2011/2311s

>>64844422
Oh, I was just making an observation about the link being a “weak link” of the 1911 design but the actual market not caring.

The plunger tube however is the real issue and I wish more frames had them integrated. The extractor too.

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>>64843423
>they're kind of snappy
Faggots with gay faggot wrists and little gay faggot hands have said this about literally every single gun on the market for years. Full-steel DA/SA pistols are "too snappy" for half of /k/eddit.

>>64844441
I think the market doesn't care because 1911s haven't been more than a range toy/heirloom for going on 50 years. If they were primarily used as defensive/carry guns, like say a Glock, people would care more about little durability issues like that.

>>64843446
>I suppose he likes walking around his flat carrying them?
You don't?

>>64844461
Really? You say this to me in front of my seniors 60+ breakfast platter and corvette owners association meeting

>>64844476
TWO WORLD WARS SONNY

>>64844390
Nice shooting.

>>64844339
>one handed shooting is gay
This is actually a pretty good argument, and I think that on that basis, he should get on the collage. /hg/ wants shooters, whether they pass or fail is irrelevant.

>>64844513
Yeah, put him on there as "one handed shooting is gay" anon, coincidentally the only anon to post a result where he missed is the one who thinks one handed shooting is gay. He's like the shoulderlet at the gym who thinks OHP is dumb.

>>64844513
>/hg/ wants shooters, whether they pass or fail is irrelevant.
This should go without saying, but if you're going to carry, train for real. Don't be some faggot who thinks carrying a gun is about larping as some queer from a 100 years ago.

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>>64844518
Here was my first attempt and I was the one who said “one handed shooting is gay” and run the collage since nobody else was, I do think some training should be done for it but more important things like rapid fire, target transition, etc should be trained instead of mastering some gay technique

I want my Mozambique challenge.
Public rangelets need not apply.

>>64844536
I was going to do it when I get my POV camera view set up. I did a steel challenge match and I need data to analyze to improve because I want to win it, there are two very good shooters there that both shoot atlas 2011s. I am not vain and narcissistic.

>>64843743
It's on sale. What's the problem?

>>64844536
Start it yourself, dumbas

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>>64843446
>I suppose he likes walking around his flat carrying them?
A-are you not supposed to be doing that?

>>64844336
>>64844355
thanks
>>64844323
Four world wars and two planetary wars

Excluding price and it looks like a Taurus is there any reason not to buy an HK CC9?

>>64844460
>Faggots with gay faggot wrists and little gay faggot hands
Noodle arms win again.

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Tomorrow is range day! My date tomorrow is my USP and Savage rifle!

>inb4 under 10 feet of snow
sucks to be you then, anon!

>>64843419
YFW calling a gay sex line.

>>64844692
Only if you compare it to other guns.

>>64844660
Aww don’t worry bud you can get land one day and then you won’t have to go to the range.

>T-Minus 48 hours left for the gun I want on GunBroker
>Still under $600

>>64844919
I'm gonna bid on it

Alcohol is great
I bought a P226 MK 25

Give me one good reason not to buy an 84BB from PSA for $280.

>>64844948
Drink alcohol
make a decision

>>64844950
I don't drink though

>>64844955
Good, that means you wont spend a little over 1k for a pistol like the P226 MK 25 like me

>>64844948
Give me a reason why not to buy a Bersa for $299

>>64844963
You meant $199, right?

CYELEE NEEDS TO RELEASE THE CHAMELEON FLEX NOOOOOOOOOOOWWWW!!!!!!!!

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>tfw got a nice no dash 686 currently waiting in gun for 550 bux

>>64844984
derp, in gun jail
fuckin waiting period

>>64842332
Accuracy with a flashlight does sound like a good challenge.

>>64844965
Not the regular one, optic ready and threaded barrel TPR9

>>64844984
How do you guys find these good guns for cheap

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Can confirm my nagant reloads successfully worked and successfully kept gas seal. 44 sp already worked

Say hello to the next great American ammo company!

>>64845033
Are u a cat too?

>>64845014
check gunbroker, pawn shops ect on and off again for your big wants. Shit just pops up randomly and goes fast.
Mostly people not waiting around for the I KNOW WHUT I GOT fuddpricing.

>>64845044
Are you not?

>>64845033
Yeah, I'm looking at doing 9mm handloads

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I crossed a Smith & Wesson 3rd gen off my list with a 4516. Got a pretty good deal with the gun in excellent condition, 3 mags, and original box for $497. This is only the 2nd full steel pistol I've bought aside from a 1911, but despite being a compact, it weighs about the same as a 1911 at 42 ounces loaded. It feels good though, like how a gun should feel, the trigger is surprisingly smooth, and the reset is ridiculously short.

It always saddens me how S&W gave up on these guns so quickly after Glock started eating their lunch. Sig had success with the Sig Pro, Beretta had the PX4, and an alternate timeline where S&W kept producing a polymer 4th gen while keeping certain legacy models would have been nice.

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How's the Bersa 2011? I love the look of it

>>64843209
>>64843774
been considering one for conceal carry. how is it?

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>>64845258
>I love the look of it

>>64845258
>>64842170
Does anyone own a Bersa TPR9? PSA has them marked down to $299.99 and I was curious what experience anyone has had with them,

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>>64845044
Yes
This is a cat owned business
We started with revolver ammo since revolvers are better
>>64845053
Scientists believe 9MM brass grows on trees…
It’s a renewable natural resource
So I’m going to buy a second Lee press with the carbide 9MM does included for free black cat will man the presses

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love me south african gat, simple as

>>64845233
Looks sweet anon, I love all the 3rd gens I've owned and fired. (And 2nd gens too)

>>64842347
i bought my dad one of these at a show. he thinks i'm the good son now.

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>>64845014

I'm excited to get my hands on my SIG P226

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i got a glock 48 MOS.
I want to get an AIWB. i'm looking at the enigma because reddit says it's great. i work in an office where i have to wear nice tucked in clothes. i've looked into alternatives and i kind of hate them.
anyway what do you guys think about this thing? they sell just the base model for like 93$, or you can get one with their holster on it ready to go for 155$.

>>64845968
>reddit
Stopped reading

>>64845968
>i work in an office where i have to wear nice tucked in clothes.

then you shouldn't aiwb. just cope with an ankle holster.

>>64844536
>I want my Mozambique challenge.

So post up. Why do you want to be the follower instead of the leader?

>>64845968
There's one or two people that have an Enigma here that will probably post about it before long. If you're going to be sitting down often or for long periods of time, good luck with appendix. You might be better off with 5 o' clock

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Alright, what ammo do you train with and use for defense? I normally just pick up whatever's cheapest, but I've been wanting to figure something out that's more optimal.
At the moment, I'm using Federal Syntech 124gr 9mm and Federal Syntech Defense 138gr 9mm for my Glock 19.

>>64845996
>>64846011
i'd rather have a thing that does double duty. i was looking for something that worked for the office, and then my neurons activated when i considered that i could stay strapped in sweatpants, and then my heart rate began to elevate and my palms started sweating.

>>64846069
The enigma is fine, but if your gun's heavy it can tend to be annoying.

Quick question: What would be a good, cheap mag loader for a USP 45 be?

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I keep pulling shots when under pressure (challenge, stage and timer etc). Did better while practising on mini and micro IPSC targets.

>>64844335
What type of plastic is that? It looks like ABS or something extremely brittle.

>>64846067
currently:
>pmc bronze 115gr for the range
>speer gold dot 147gr for carry/bedside
but really i just use whatever half decent non-remanufactured brass i can get on the cheap for training and whatever speer/hornady/federal carry jhp in 135gr/147gr happens to be around $.50/rd at the time

>>64842347
>top break revolvers
I wish there were at least one modern option.

>b-but it is fragile!
Then make them like the Huntsman, in .22lr. It is enough, I just want to have fun

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>>64845968
Get your own holster, I have like 4-5 enigmas. Some holsters don’t work for it, the holes to mount it are in the wrong place pushing the gun too low or whatever. But once you find the right set up I think it’s better than any other carry method.

>>64846067
Optimal range ammo is whatever allows you to train the most. Running an occasional magazine of your carry ammo to remind yourself how it feels is the best you will ever need. You're not training for USPSA nationals, you're building the skills to defend your life if necessary. Unless you're planning to pull some hollywoodesque revenge spree against the mob, all you have to be is good enough to stop the threat. You don't have to be delta tom clancy john wick, having fired 10,000 rounds of your hand loaded +P+ teflon coated JHP defensive loads with national match level speed.

>>64846236
>it's fragile!
You would think they could design something that holds up to .38 special at least. I used to have a Uberti Schofield in .38 and it seemed really strong.

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>>64846067
I exclusively shoot Winchester Service grade 9mm since it’s one of the hottest range loads I have seen. 115gr flat point 1300 fps makes very nice round holes in targets, recoil wise it’s worse or about the same as +P 124 gr JHPs. It’s +P and for only 25 cpr.

>>64846526
Also you can get it into the high density packaging, both sides of this image is 4k rounds (8k total). The tiny boxes are very nice for storage but more susceptible to damage, I’ve found maybe 1-2 rounds pushed into their cases too far.

>>64846466
Sounds like you’re making excuses on why you’re not literally John wick

>>64846193
I can feel with a knife that it's glass reinforced, so probably nylon as that's the industry standard. But there's no mold mark I've found

Only the grips and magazine conveyor shuttles are plastic btw

>>64846556
Sounds like you are delusional and think you are. I keep it real.

>>64846775
If you are not trying to become the best, why train at all? Why not make up mental gymnastics on how .32 ACP is superior to 9mm

>call ten fucking stores
>"no we don't have (literally any snub .44 on the market)"
>finally find one with the S&W Model 69 I was after
>$990 after taxes
I held one like new at 670 3 years ago and passed it up. I am going to cry. I bought it anyway

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10 rounds in 2 strings of 5, slight zeroing adjustment after the first

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>>64846902
Oh and 1 flier is covered up by the tape from the first string. 7 yards

Same fucking zero at 25

I hate my stupid 400 pound chud life

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>>64843250
>HG wat's your:
>1 - favorite handgun you own
Beretta 92X, but to be honest, I don't really like any of my handguns. I'm on a perpetual hunt for something that will fit my monstrously long hands, and nothing I have ever touched feels quite right.
>2 - favorite handgun you experienced
Staccato P or HK VP9
>3 - worst handgun you experienced
Springfield Hellcat, but really every Springfield I've ever touched is a piece of absolute dogshit. Echelon sucks, Prodigy sucks

>>64846809
>mental gymnastics on how .32 ACP is superior to 9mm
No mental gymnastics required, the only thing better about 9mm is a rimless cartridge costs less to make, it's the only factor that led to 9mm seeing wider adoption in the long run. Why do you think almost all police and military organizations around the world used to issue 32ACP? The American civilian market buying so much 9mm because they want to pretend to be Nazis is what drove the price down so far that people started adopting 9mm over 32 despite the obvious shortcomings.

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>>64846902
>>64846912
Nice, nice! I wonder why we get vertical stringing at 25, doesn’t seem to be a ballistics issue. Gotta be vision/trigger control/flinch related, I assume.

>>64843364
Then why are you looking at another Glock 17? What does the gen 6 bring to the table that you desperately want, and you gen 4 is lacking? I'd kinda understand if you're going to buy a gen 6 17 AND 19, so you can do the swapping, but otherwise, what is the point? Not hating on Glock, I carry one, but it sounds like you should definitely drop the 17 from your to purchase list.

>>64843640
>Do you guys think optics planet actually has one for sale or are they just yanking my chain.
I think it's not worth the risk to find out with those fuckers.

>>64846926
I am kind of sending it, less than 30 seconds each string trying to fit my shots inbetween the time it takes for this boomer to reload his Ar pistol in this indoor range

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Nighthawk bros…. When doing sub .15 splits (my timer is struggling) sometimes the hammer only drops to half cock. Maybe I’m on the trigger too fast or some shit. I’m about to send back 3 nighthawks at once… I should have bought a Glock

>>64846950
just remove the disconnector and hold the trigger down

t. gunsmif

>>64846954
There is already a 1911 FRT, soon they’re make one for a 2011

>>64846959
The 1911 FRT was patented in 1934 and yet still I cannot buy one.

>>64846809
>if you are not going to be a top chef at the world's most famous restaurant why cook at all? Why not make up mental gymnastics on how the moon is smaller than a #12 machine screw?
: )

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>>64843530
This makes no sense
I love 45 and 44
Their recoil jolt and snap is gradual so it’s a push not a smack letting you shoot more than you’d think
>>64843541
Is there a compact to subcompact sized 1911. Either 9MM or 45. Tbh 45 probably won’t kick worse than the bulldog provided it’s at least 20oz but it must have a monster spring so 9 is fine too.
I probably need more 9 for ammo compatibility

So yeah
9MM subcompact 1911 of shoot anyone?

>>64843530
>I'm too gay for .45
Correct

>>64846466
>Unless you're planning to pull some hollywoodesque revenge spree against the mob,
shh

I want to go shooting but my favorite public range is at full capacity.

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>>64846881
Just buy a charter arms. Total cost for a bulldog counting shipping and transfer: about 350
It’s also only 20oz
>>64846917
Know it’s bait but browning himself employed a high-low strategy in calibers and quickly abandoned 9 like calibers like 38 ACP for large and small. The military did so for all the wars it won. Using one to do both isn’t optimal.

>>64847039
>just cheap out
No, also not a .44 Mag

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>>64846809
>If you are not trying to become the best, why train at all?
I guess I'm just mentally stronger than you are. I don't need delusions of grandeur to motivate me to self improve. I'll never be a champion bodybuilder but I still lift weights, I'll never be a motogp rider but I still do track days, I'll never be the world's most attractive man but I still groom myself. I don't find operating under some ridiculous fantasy that I can be the best at something necessary to want to do it.

>Why not make up mental gymnastics on how .32 ACP is superior to 9mm
Do you think this gobbledygook is some sort of gotcha? Take your meds.

>>64846986
>>64847109
lol

I'd love to get a .44 Magnum but I don't have the money for the ammo. I like shooting A LOT so form right now it's solely 9mm and .22 for me

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Still not the greatest shot yet, but 10rds @ 15yds. Threw that first one hard but the rest were decent imo

>>64847148
Great job, Anon! Keep it up!

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here's my late submission. the practice is starting to pay off.

>>64847148
Miring the sticker, does it get distorted due to the heat?

>>64847185
Thanks anon
>>64847235
No, it's not like a mag gets hot. But I have it to denote my carry mag so I use it less than my others if I take it to the range.

>>64847049
Don't bother responding to that faggot. He has nothing useful to say, he likes trolling here.

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>>64847254
That gave me a good laugh anon
I hope you don't lose it to an evidence locker

>>64847148
nice

>>64847186
nice

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>>64847186

more people should post videos

>>64847255
I'll keep that in mind

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>>64847261
kinda the exact reason why I did it lol. I coulda marked it with a paint pen but I think it would be amusing if that rolled into an evidence locker

>>64847039
Two gulf wars you prolapsed faggot

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>>64847283
Yeah I got my fair share of dumb shit myself, I would feel honored if this dumb mag got on the news

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>>64846881
Should I spring for the official wood grips as well? I want to fully commit to the aesthetic at this point

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>>64847186
Based?
>>64847290
The slogan given the P320 will be two amputated balls
The gun kills its owners. Even that Alex guy would have been alive had he not carried a p320.
>>64847049
It’s fun and when it breaks (it hasn’t) I’ll buy another

>>64845968
I carry my full size PX4 on an Enigma and it's more comfortable than any other carry setup I've had with a micro compact by far, also doesn't print at all. Would recommend 100%. Just do what the other anon said and buy the standalone rig and bring your own holster.

>>64845268
Don't have the SP101 in hand yet, let alone any range time, but I've had a GP100 for a decade and I love that thing.

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I like clear kydex. Makes the dystopia we live in a bit more fun.

>>64847631
TYFYS

Should I get a flux for my 365
I really wanna get one of those iwb holsters for it and carry that shit

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>>64847631
gib new monthly challenge

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I can't shoot accurately

>>64846627
The frame is aluminum? That completely changes my opinion of it, not that I'd be able to get one anytime soon since there's still a waiting list.

>>64846809
>If you are not trying to become the best, why train at all?
Nobody here is the best at anything. Statistically, very few people will ever be the best at anything, unless you make up some arbitrary thing to be good at, like pulling the lead out of wooden pencils without breaking it. So, by your logic, should we all just give up at everything?

>>64847689
What if there was a strawpoll for voting on the next one?

>>64847689
>>64842332

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>>64847825
Yeah, both sides and the magazine door are exquisitely machined aluminium. The grip panels are plastic. Pretty much all the small parts are steel except the three colored buttons which are aluminum

>>64847914
Does the ounce count as a belt-fed?

>>64842332
Yeah, accuracy while holding a light seems fun, but we just had a one handed challenge. Also, I'd bet most people here don't own a .380. That course of fire is definitely weird.

>>64847853
I think we might need to solicit some more ideas before getting a strawpoll going 3bh

>>64847932
>most people here don't own a .380
It says max size is .380, so anything smaller should be good. I bet most people have a .22 at least.

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>>64844967
NRA show.

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>>64846954
>remove the disconnector
That would also result in a failure to fire but without the half cock

>>64847186
Based permanent-marker target

>>64847039
>quickly abandoned 9 like calibers
That's because in JMB's day hollow points neither fed nor expanded reliably

Which striker guns are objectively an upgrade over a Glock?
>muh subjectivism
No we aren’t doing that here.

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>>64848033
>in JMB's day hollow points
Briefly existed for revolvers but were not a thing at all for automatics.

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>>64848045
>not a thing at all for automatics
For reasons outlined immediately after the text you quoted. Also the Hague agreements I guess

>>64846881
Was this in north Colorado, by any chance? I overheard a phone conversation at one store where a guy was asking for any revolver in .44.

>>64848036
Vp9, pdp are probably the easiest answer

>>64848075
They simply hadn't been made yet. Handgun hollow points were a police thing after WW2. The first commercially available ones were in the '60s.
It's hard to make a gun be reliable with loads that won't exist for another few decades.

>>64848077
Right initials, but no, North Carolina. I was also specifically asking for all 3 or 4 snubs in existence by name. My list was Model 69, Model 629 Deluxe/Performance Center, and Ruger Alaskan

Noooooo I received magpul's p365 magazines, and unfortunately they are shit. They were my only hope, the tiny spider thread to climb out of $60/mag hell cast from the fde heavens. They fit too tight into fcu opening, need a kick to get in, and of course that means they don't fall free.

>>64848079
Does the vp9 have the same alleged “snappiness” as the pdp?
Given, that they’re both essentially Walther p99 derivatives.

>>64848036
None of them.

>>64848050
This you? >>64846950

T-Minus 24 hours remain for the auction for the gun I want on GunBroker and it is still under $600.

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>>64848036
I think the PPQ is objectively better. It's bulkier than a G19 but the trigger and ergos are objectively better.

>>64848040
retard

>>64848213
Yes but that’s a 10mm NH I just dropped off at FedEx

>>64848229
Link the gun so we can snipe it

>>64848036
Gen 5/6 Glocks have objectively the best barrels in their class, and they're lighter than anything that isn't a P365 Macro. Real knowers know that everything is a sidegrade.

I wish I had enough money for an FK BRNO Field Pistol post.

>>64848229
You're after that Fusion 1911 10mm long slide too huh?

>>64848293
Kek I did this to you guys once. I was selling and posted a similar "12 hours remaining" and I'm pretty sure the fact that my gun ended about $150 higher than the other recent sales of the same gun was because of /k/ posters trying to fuck someone who wasn't even here over. It wasn't in HG though.

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>>64844337
>bleeding damage?
05% every 30 minutes with FMJ
10% every 30 minutes with JHP

Base damage with FMJ is 20% with a 1.75 multiplier for critical hits

>>64848111
>trips
All right, anon– you've convinced me

I'm pretty set on buying a ppk in .32 can someone talk me out of it?
90% going for meme and 5% thinks I might carry it around sometimes

>>64848388
only buy the .32 acp version for the memes, .380 acp version for carry.

>>64848388
Don’t listen to >>64848389
.32 is the way to go in any small blowback handgun.

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>>64848388
.32 is correct

>>64848229
>someone literally outbids you at the last second
or
>the seller cancels the auction because the winning bid was below 1000

>>64848404
>.32 anti-materiel
kek

>>64848404
I was a little shaky on 6 +1 but with that kind of stopping power and accuracy out I'm sold.

>>64848388
I owned an NAA Guardian in .32 until my dad fell in love with it and bought me a gun safe in exchange. Snappy and loud as a motherfucker in a mouse gun, but I can see it being a fun and easy shooter in a PPK-sized gun

>>64848298
PSD looks better anyways

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I have an itch to try bullseye shooting, have you anons ever done it? It seems like a pretty dead sport in my area, so I'd be going it completely alone.

>>64848283
The difference is one is at fedex now and the other will be there in a matter of time.

>>64848329
Good strategy honestly, I respect the hustle.

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>>64847631
TYFYS

>>64848430
I told this story before but I was pretty pissed at an online auction where I bid $300 on a Colt Diamondback and as I was about to win, they paused the auction and immediately relisted the item for $1000 and it didn't sell. Absolute horseshit

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>>64842170
My CMP 1911 finally came through. I'm taking a page out of that other anon's book with this picture.

I still need to get to the range to do the challenge. It snowed more here, and I'm scared that my car would get stuck if I tried to go there.

>>64843250
>1 - favorite handgun you own
Tisas 1911. I have more than one, including their 9mm doublestack. I love them all. 1911s are the coolest and bestest handgun
>2 - favorite handgun you experienced
Same as above. They are all a joy and a pleasure to shoot.
>3 - worst handgun you experienced
Walther P22. Worst handgun Walther ever put out, but it is still a fun plinker and it taught me how to be a better handgun shooter, including giving me a lot of practice on how to clear malfunctions.
>dishonorable mention
Rental range Glock G45. It jammed on me twice within 10 rounds. I still don't like Glocks to this day because of that.

>>64843545
This. No reason to get a 9mm 1911 over a 2011 unless you specifically want to use it in USPSA single stack division, live in a ban state, or simply not want to buy into a new more expensive caliber.

>>64847749
That's okay. Me neither.

>>64848036
M&P
Slightly cheaper than Glock
Grip angle that is actually compatible with human anatomy
Reinforced frame
Disassembly does not require pulling the trigger, but still gives you that option if you want to use it (safety issue)
Theoretically available with a manual safety (good luck finding one with it)

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>>64848473
>paused the auction and immediately relisted the item for $1000

Can anyone give me a qrd on 9x21
Saw a PX4 in it

>>64848560
9mm for counties that can't have "military calibers" so it's not compatible. it's functionally the same.

>>64848560
two more milimeterz makes teh boolitz hit harder

>>64848452
>polymer
No. Maybe the silhouette does because it's basically an H9 but the Field Pistol is classy. Better MOA, better recoil control.

>>64848158
VP9 is no more or less "snappy" than any other striker 9/reskinned glock

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>>64848158
It does, but it's not in any way related to the P99. HK just stole the general idea of using a third intermediate piece between the striker and sear

>>64848573
False

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>>64845480
This one is practically new, and I'm surprised at how few of these S&W semi autos I've seen in personal collections compared to how many were featured in movies and tv shows between 1989 and 2005. I've only ever known one person who owned one and he has an old S&W 39. I remember trade-in 5906s/4006s being plentiful in gun stores, then they disappeared and I've never met anyone who bought one.

>>64845289
Is it the compact or full size? I've heard good things and that they are underrated

>>64842357 >>64842479 >>64848499 very nice
>>64843119 you mean the UID engraving?
>>64844322 LMK if you find a Python POV video that features proper Magnum loads

>>64848560
9x21 is 9x19 but a longer chamber that cannot accept 9x19 rounds, so it's "civilian" only loadings.

>>64843250
1. Canik MC9L
2. Canik MC9L
3. Gen 6 Glock 17

Are they still making USPs? Or is it only used gun market now

>>64848838
They are

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>CCU Rail Gun is back in stock
Is it still an impulse buy if I’ve wanted it for 6 years?
>>64848838
They still make a shit ton of USPs. They’re still way overpriced.

>>64848648
Full size, I am about to say fuck it given it's only $299.99

>>64843425
came to ask about the consensus on the trigger, coincidentally. I've only dry-fired the echelon and fired the PDP match, which was underwhelming, but the echelon trigger definitely has a shorter but less forceful reset, and feels better overall. Is the PDP trigger meme officially dead? I mean Walther even sell an upgraded trigger

I'm watching funny Taurus Judge videos and saw a "snake gun" comment, and it's made me wonder where that idea even came from. My stepdad owned one and told me he carried it to defend himself from snakes when I was 8, and even back then I remember being confused and pissed off about the prospect of getting a gun specifically for shooting mostly harmless and highly avoidant animals. Has anyone else seen this irl?

>>64843250
>1 - favorite handgun you own
Colt Mk IV Series 70 in 9mm
I got it because of Way of The Gun and it wound up becoming my favorite gun I own.
>2 - favorite handgun you experienced
Colt Single Action Army
3 - worst handgun you experienced
Smith and Wesson SD9VE

>>64843250
>favorite owned
S&W Model 69. I don't physically have it yet but I already know I love it. I've been pining for a .44 for years
>favorite experienced
My Glock 17. It's just fun. I can shoot it as fast, hard, and long as I want. An uncomplicated and unsophisticated gun comes with no obligations
>worst experienced
My brother's Heritage Rough Rider. I told him not to get it. I told him it was pot metal garbage. Guess what broke and has been rotting away disassembled in my closet for a year. I spent the extra hundred for a Ruger Wrangler

>>64848907
I was looking into reloading my own snake shot when I realized the same thing. My only concern was rattlesnakes, but they're kind enough to warn us to keep our distance, so there's no reason to shoot them when I can just go around.

>>64848934
Plus the muzzle velocity and spread is so dogshit I'd question its efficacy on a squirrel beyond 5 yards

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Does this listing look okay?
https://www.guns.com/used-guns/p/colt-frontier-six-shooter?i=548751
I’m tempted but that price seems suspiciously low for what are normally very desirable options on a 1st gen SAA. Even if the nickel is aftermarket it still looks like a factory 4 3/4” barrel.