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Says Rafales are enough.

https://www.twz.com/air/f-15ex-buy-dropped-by-indonesia
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>>64836094
translation: the French agent in Indognesia paid a bigger bribe than the American agent
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>>64836096
Translation: a simple missile truck is useless if it's a ppt
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>>64836100
begone, turdie

https://aerospaceglobalnews.com/news/ninth-eagle-ii-delivered-to-us-air-force/
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>>64836124
Wow, 7 months worth of full production, impressive!
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>>64836127
>7 months worth of full production
what did the malding turdie mean by this?
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>>64836130
It means: >>64836094
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>>64836127
Wow, not actually a .ppt like this coping faggot >>64836100 claimed
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>>64836134
The ppt is Boeing building 24 15EX a year.
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>>64836131
so those grapes were sour anyway and indog monkey shithole is too good for them? is that it?
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>>64836136
It's on schedule building 12 a year right now. Is your brain PPT or are you just clawing at the walls at the mere thought of US technology?
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>schizo US foreign policy changes weekly depending on who demented commander in chief last talked to, as US defences exports lose further customers.
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>>64836140
>Boeing is currently intent on ramping up F-15EX production to 24 aircraft annually. Between August and November of last year, deliveries were suspended due to production delays. The 16th F-15EX was delivered to the Air Force in December.
Delayed... and cancelled! is the new motto in the US
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>>64836136
>ackshually I meant this not that
lol
lmao

oh, and let's compare Rafale and 15EX production rates ;)
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meds, helmettard
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>>64836145
It keeps going up, it will be 36-45 in 3 years.
https://www.dassault-aviation.com/en/group/press/press-kits/deliveries-order-intakes-and-backlog-in-number-of-new-aircraft-as-of-december-31-2025/
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>>64836151
>.ppt says it will be 36-45 mmkay!!
>trust the .ppt!
oh how the turn tables, Mbubu
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>>64836096
Aussie here, it will be us, we always fuck with Indonesia and hold the Timor Sea gas fields over them as leverage.
We are also too retarded to realize an armed indo is good for helping with china.
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>>64836166
>26 Rafale delivered during 2025
That is 62% more than Boingo during 2025, 8% more if you include the missing (ppt) 8 airframes
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>>64836143
>Is your brain PPT or are you just clawing at the walls at the mere thought of US technology?
So that's a yes i assume.
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>>64836173
>we build more of our (only) frontline fighter than you build of the second-line national guard fighter accorded 5th priority behind three flavours of F-35 and the F-18!!

#justturdiecopethings
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>>64836179
>Let me add multiple companies to show you!
Ayy lmao.

>also F-35
The flying turd that is 15 years behind schedule?
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>>64836182
>poorfag can't afford multiple companies building multiple fighters AND multiple stealth combat aircraft
0 - 1 (O.G.)

>flying turd
seethe moar, ywnb stealth
or white
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>>64836185
>Please ignore the fact Boingo can't make 24 F-15
>What about the F-35

Whiter than you btw.
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>>64836187
>Please ignore the fact Boingo can't make 24 F-15
Do they need to? You were claiming it's a ppt a few posts ago and now you're coping about how they only produce more jets a year than there are in your entire shithole's air force total.
>Whiter than you btw.
dog piss has more white blood in it than you do.
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>>64836187
>it's a "turdie nigger doesn't understand this 1st-line fighter only beat a 5th-priority backup plan" episode
pick my cotton
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>>64836189
Meanwhile in reality: >>64836094
Flexing mental illness and ppts will not change that.
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Sorry indo bro, Israel first
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>>64836195
what in reality? indogs being dirty pathetic poors? try to articulate yourself properly brown monkey.
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>>64836094
>caring what indogs think
I'm glad the french got the contract. They get to deal with indog bs and the rest of the civilized world can ignore it. Pottery.
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>>64836094
the French have now sold the secrets of their front-line fighter to jeets and mudslimes, which means that chinks will get their hands on it

how are they going to maintain their technological edge?
the US at least isn't selling off their best tech
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>>64836202
Oh no, their precious 4th gen fighter tech...
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>>64836218
what else do they have?
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>>64836182
It's okay anon, the RAAF isn't hiding under the bed, you don't need to pretend that F-35s don't scare you.
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>>64836202
>the US at least isn't selling off their best tech
Giving it away for free to their greatest ally, which can then profit by selling it off to china.
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>>64836096
>Implying they have deeper pockets
Lmao, lol even.
Actual translation: Indonesia buys from someone reliable that won't tariff you after having a bad shit in the morning or because he couldn't finger that 12yo loli.
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>>64836231
>china stronk, china know all
yeah right, chang
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>>64836239
>Implying they have deeper pockets
nope, just that their local shitskin agent skimmed less
>Indonesia buys from someone reliable
pull the other one, Mohamed, it's got 9yo child brides on
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>>64836239
Actual translation: Indonesia seethes that no matter what it buys, it can't do anything about Australia's 72 F-35As.
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>>64836248
>it can't do anything
Except buy the kf-21.
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>>64836271
>world's most schizo air force
welp, that's one way to guarantee at least half of them will be cut off and unsupported in any given war

but middleman agents gotta have their cut eh
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>>64836094
I think this is a good thing for the Indonesian airforce, the more they wind back their schizo buying the better it is for their poor logistics niggas. Honestly I’m confused why they have this “need” for big flashy shit when 99% of the IAF’s missions are just bombing cannibals inna jungle? Like they are not going to get into an aerial shoot out with their neighbours and I highly doubt the target fixated China is going to bother trying so why?
>inb4 IndoAnon screech’s about Australia
Dude your country’s government likes Australia and Australia’s government likes Indonesia, they are not going to shoot each other just because your mad about shit that happened 27 years ago, get over it (unless your from Bali then fair enough I understand why you wouldn’t like us)
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>>64836300
>Honestly I’m confused why they have this “need” for big flashy shit
easily answered: what turdies claim about American MIC corruption and pork is what they *assume* happens in the West based on what they know actually happens in their own countries

the more types of fighters they operate, the more supply chains are needed, the more pork can be farmed out to different contractors and middlemen
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honestly why would you buy anything from an unstable regime like the USA?
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>>64836325
>democracy confuses and enrages me
Still much more stable than you, Mahmoud.
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>>64836096
lol no it's because of Israel. Same reason Spain dropped F-35
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>>64836379
>>64836395
>>64836398
Very good IndoAnon, very good, however who owns East Timor?
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>>64836094
>newdick
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Rafale is close enough. If you have it, buying another similar (2 engine non-stealth manned) jet is inefficient. But that's if you're being smart about things. It could also be turdie politics.

>>64836179
This is almost passable mutt McCope™ if it wasn't for the fact Airbus has been mogging Boeing for years too.
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>>64836400
>>64836410
>rapechink is now seething around indogs too
lmao
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>>64836094
F-1SEX Buy
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>>64836425
The only thing rafail has been mogging recently is its own stinky pajeet pilots shitting in its cockpit. Will the SEAjeets fare any different with it?
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>>64836437
Will F-15EX? Who cares? Stop seething shill.
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>>64836124
the USA is a 3rd world country, tho
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>>64836096
>>64836100
Translation: Trump's chimpout at Greenland fucks up another military contract. Miggers are dumb.
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>>64836300
chinks have been trying to claim the entire south china sea as their own. Which includes building bases on artificial islands and harassing everybody bordering the sea lanes. This includes Indonesia

US might be schizophrenic and retreating into aggressive isolationism, but that does not change the reality on the ground for those geographically stuck next to aggressive imperialist cancer like CHYNA or pozzia
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Why did they even want so many planes?
Just get a better bid?
Anyway with Rafael production the way it is they can kick the pay part way down the road.
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>>64836096
Nope. I mentioned in the other thread: Indons are notorious cheapskates and will try to finnagle a discount at every opportunity. They must have gotten it from the Dutch.
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>>64836543
nah they got it from being poor and corrupt

>https://www.ft.com/content/ae6fd19e-df76-4855-8a1c-2e1099a91851
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>>64836094
This decision is more consequential .... than Canada's possibly ditching the F-35 for the Gripen
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>Wonder why this thread got so much attention compared to >>64835512
>lot of seething in this one
Well, ok.
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>>64836666
Lol you are a lying demon, no wonder you have Satan digits.

The Indonesians won their war of Independence against the Dutch the was solidified and made universally recognized by Japan formally recognizing their Independence movement. Also the Philippines won their War of Independence against Spain, this fact gets hidden since Americans latter invaded them, but they gave them such a bitter fight in the Philippine-American War that the Americans eventually granter them independence after World War 2.

This is not even considering the Precolonial Kingdoms of Indonesia and the Philippines. Like the Srivijaya Maharajanate in Sumatra invading what is now Thailand, Malaysia, Cambodia, and Brunei; or the Majapahit Maharajanate which invaded what is now Malaysia, Brunei, Papua New Guinea. Likewise in the Philippines you have Visayans in Cebu Rajahnate who invaded South Taiwan and raided Southern China or the Sulu Sultanate who invaded Eastern Kalimantan on what is now Indonesia.

All cases of Indonesians and Filipinos winning against other nations you fucking Satan.
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J A P A N E S E G R A N D F A T H E R
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>>64836202
>the French have now sold the secrets of their front-line fighter to jeets and mudslimes, which means that chinks will get their hands on it

The chinks are already past the french in aircraft technology.
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>litterally the only jet to be shot down by the pakistanis
>still accept it
And that's why I don't fear India becoming a super power anytime soon
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Uh oh, rapechink melty!
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>thiel bot trying to kill this thread
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>rapechink keeps losing his mind
lol, lmao even
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Sticking with the Rafale is the sensible option. You don't need to buy multiple 4.5 gens that can do the same thing.
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>>64836946
Pakis themselves say that it's how you use the Jet, the tactics and quality of the pilot. It doesn't matter if the jeets had F-15s or Rafales, they'd still lose due to their poor training.
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>>64837364
>they'd still lose due to their poo training*
ftfy
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>>64836094
Why don't they buy something that can land on their aircraft carrier?
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>>64837737
They ARE the aircraft carrier
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>>64836094
>F-15EX
More like F-1SEX!
>>64836365
Make the list longer!!
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>>64836147
>meds, helmettard
yo its tax-season euro-pussy,
what form do I file for my residence in your head?
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>>64837998
>a retreating and isolationist USA.
>"isolationist"

your insufferable faggot shill vocabulary is gag inducing
the same type of people that say "tucker qatarlson" and seethe about candace owens

straight up "friends of zion" talking points
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Why is chinese penis so very smarr and weak
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>>64836459
it may as well be considering how many of you desperately try to make it in here
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Is this now a rape thread? It is.
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>>64838303
Weaponized autism.
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>>64838303
I’m confused, this was supposed to be a IndoSchizo thread but it’s been hijacked by RapeChink, which is weird since I’ve never seen RapeChink in a Indonesian thread before, what gives?
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>>64838629
the post just above yours is in rapechink's style, which is odd

is he actually rapeindog?!?!
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I love how easy rapechink is to bait. He's just so broken that he can't help himself and has to sperg out.
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>>64839188
GIWTWM
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>>64836271
>KF-21
Not gonna happen since Indoniggers never paid and tried to steal the technology
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>>64839263
Wtf why do I have a deep desire to be squished now. Looks so enjoyable
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>>64836096
It's worse: we agreed to a technology transfer.
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>>64836141
Trump is the best thing to ever happen to Dassault. He scared away so many customers with his vuvuzela and penguinland circus
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>>64839467
This is good for China. Not because of any geopolitical shit, though. It's because they already know they can beat the Rafale (india vs pakistan).
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>>64839345
you seem upset
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>>64839510
> plane X can beat plane Y
This is childish thinking. Any plane can be shot down, real life isn't a video game where the unit with the best specs wins
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>>64839630
Any plane can be shot down but that doesn't change how you would rather be in an F-15EX (or F-35) than a Rafale.
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Good, we shouldn't sell weapons to any Muslim nations
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>>64836185
I can't even tell pajeet from migger talk anymore
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>>64839696
The F35 has stealth so I'd rather sit in one provided it's not detected yet.

The F15ex has the RCS of a whale so I'd rather be in the rafale than get blasted by a SAM in the bomb truck
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>>64836151
After starting production in India which im sure will be problem free.
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EX requires firmware updates and a subscription service to not brick, yes? Makes sense to buy from a country that isn't going to fuck you over based on a random tweet that the president saw. Kill switches ended the American arms industry. Sad!
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>>64839872
fanatics don't care about the realities of international business. The word of their leader is manifested truth
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>>64839872
No thirdie American aircraft do not have kill switches.
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>>64836094
Translation: Rafale, like most French hardware, is ITAR-free. Also >>64836096
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>>64836666
>>64836841
The Philippines is one with the top militaries in the world in terms of sustained, continuous combat experience, especially in counterinsurgency and special operations. Only USA, Russia, Israel, Myanmar and Ukraine fight as regularly.
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>>64840374
Looked it up and damn the Philippines have 70 years of non-stop counter-insurgency fighting experience.

They're on the level of the israelis
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>>64840425
>>64840374
correction: 70 years of non-stop failing to counter the insurgency

and the number of shots fired and battles fought is extremely low
Marawi was by far the biggest recent battle
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>>64836094
5EX is sex in leetspeak.
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>>64840425
No, if they were on the level of the israelis they'd have carpet bombed everything south of cebu for the last several years and anyone in the US who didn't agree that jollibee is the best food ever made would be arrested, fired from their job, and denaturalized for supporting terrorism. Also the entire country would be awash in american giebs and their counterterrorism units would train american police in how to bash elderly people's brains out with a club.
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>>64836248
Indonesia is literally the regional hegemon of South East Asia
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>>64836171
>>64836300
take note that indonesia see australia as frienemy. australia is a friend, but have high potential to become an enemy. if you read history about relationship between the two countries, the two countries already find them self as enemies many times in history. there's even a prophecy by king jayabaya from 7th century that said nusantara (indonesia) will go to war with it's southern nation (australia) to become the regional superpower that rule indian ocean and south east asia

Looking at how the US turns a blind eye to Israelis killing women and children, Indonesians fear they would be treated similarly to Palestinians if there were conflicts, for example, between Indonesia and Australia. Historically, Indonesia has been mistreated by the US and Australia before. Indonesian has more realistic view of relationship with Superpower.

In fact, Indonesia is the one who has to worry even though it is non-aligned but is surrounded by American military bases. such as in Singapore, Papua New Guinea, Australia, etc. there is a possibility that other countries will attack it to take its resources, for example, Australia, which has a military backup from the US, could help Papua become completely independent, especially as Indonesia's military equipment is much more outdated than Australia's. especially because Indonesia is flanked by China and Australia, where the issue will definitely be related to the blurred South China Sea and Australia's potential to help Micronesia push for the liberation of Papua... so maintaining and increasing Indonesia military strength is important
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>>64836248
Indonesia is one of the countries that will become a superpower someday and rival the US. Indonesia is now set to have a capable Airforce with Rafale and J-10 not to mention Indonesia is buying 5th generation stealth fighter jets from Turkiye. Indonesia also has long range ballistic missile strike capabilities thanks to Turkiye. INDONESIA just signing an agreement with Turkey arms manufacturer Roketstan to purchasing not only HISAR air defense missile but also KHAN ballistic missile that capable reached not only Ausfailia but also Singapore and Philippines
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>>64842190
>Indonesia has been mistreated by the US and Australia before
You mean the time they politely asked you to stop violently suppressing an occupied place they turned a blind eye to you occupying in the first place?
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>>64836248
When Indonesia buys Rafales from France, it can do whatever it wants with them. It can even buy spare parts in advance to be self-sufficient. When Australia buys F35s from the US, the planes must be in constant contact with American servers, otherwise they stop working. The relationship is not the same: in the first case, it's customer/supplier; in the second, it's master/slave.
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>>64842190
>>64836248
Don't forget that Indonesia's population is eight times that of Australia. In fact, the combined 42 Rafale and 48 KAAN aircrafts significantly boost Indonesia's capabilities, even though Australia has 72 F35s. Rest assured, the Rafale and F15 EX's firepower is deadly, not to mention the additional J10C from China.
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>>64842210
Your pasta is so stale it contradicts the topic of the thread.
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>it's indog posting o clock
time to book a trip to Jakarta to fuck indogposter's sister

>>64842220
lmao he forgot to replace the name in the pasta
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Guys maybe we're being too hard on the Indogs.
Some of them seem like really solid people...
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>>64836182
More F-35s than all other countries stealth aircraft combined
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>>64842190
You shouldn't have annexed Timor and we shouldn't have stolen the gas fields, as an Aussie I wish we would make a deal on the gas and become allies.
As for a 7th century prophecy you could have done it to the abos easily enough but that time is over.
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>>64842210
>Indonesia's population is eight times that of Australia


Australia has less than 20 million europeans
While there are close to 300 million indogs
It's also a substantially younger country

So more like 20-30 times the relevant population
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>>64844505
what's with brown countries having white supremacy parties?
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>>64839960
It's not really a kill switch. More like a passive deactivation. So essentially if you want to use your aircraft in a way that does not suit America you have about a month before it bricks itself.
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>>64845737
Sadly I've misplaced my pic of a Mexican neofascist getting married in SS cosplay...
It comes from 2 places:
1) people who look at their corrupt turdie shithole, then look at the heroic ideology of the fasces, as like a beacon on a hill and decide it's a goal to climb towards. They're taking tye ideology on its face, on its word.
2) the sad derangement of our society/culture, having such a zealous religious antibody-reaction to the challenge of WW2, to the point where increasingly any type of self-cultivation is viewed as a heretical prelude to a campaign of genocide. So whether or not those Indogs believe something is irrelevant; they are to be labeled as neoLiberalism's Great Satan which, in our context, is called either "hitler" or "nazi."
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>>64845737
they're actually brown supremacy parties, but the media can't report that so they add "white" in front

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